Subject: Re: [TR] Convertible Top

From: Rochlin Robert <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 14:07:52 -0400

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	My experience with the cloth Robbins top has been, on the whole, =
positive.  I had my top installed by a local Robbins dealer.  The top =
looks perfect when up.  The one difficulty is getting the top up.  The =
top is hard to stretch into the latches.  The fact that it is cloth and =
the back window can be unzipped makes it less difficult than my old =
Everflex top with a fixed window to get up. Last week I was having a =
seat repaired at another well respected top shop in town, and asked =
owner about the tight top issue.  He told me that, in his experience, =
the Robbins tops for the TR6 were too tight in the section that went =
from the rear deck to the rear top frame member and that the difficulty =
in getting the top latched stemmed from this tightness.
	As I said though, the top looks really great when it is up.
	Best,
	Bob
	=E2=80=9972 TR6
> On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:54 PM, Dave MacKay <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> In Triumphs Digest, Vol 12, Issue 59, Message: 1, DAVID MASSEY =
> >I am planning on ordering a new top and I see that TopsonLine carry =
both the Robbins and the EZ-On top.? Is the Robbins top worth the extra?
>=20
> I can=E2=80=99t speak to the EZ-On top, but my experience with a =
Robbins tonneau that I bought about 5 years ago for my TR3A wasn=E2=80=99t=
 good.
> I ordered a new Robbins tonneau to replace the Robbins tonneau that =
had torn after years of use. The new tonneau didn=E2=80=99t fit. I used =
a well regarded upholstery shop experienced in installing tops on =
British cars to install the tonneau, so I don=E2=80=99t think that the =
problems were due to the installation.
>=20
> To remedy the problem, I sent Robbins my old torn tonneau and sent =
them some measurements that they requested. They made me a replacement =
tonneau which also didn=E2=80=99t fit. The steering wheel pocket was =
still off by about =C2=BD=E2=80=9D and the top was about =C2=BE=E2=80=9D =
too short. It was also a bit too narrow; I had to have the installation =
shop sew in some vinyl and a different zipper so that I could get it to =
zip up.
> The customer service from both Robbins and TRF was very good, but the =
final result wasn=E2=80=99t good. For what I had spent with the =
installer, I could have had them make a custom tonneau. That=E2=80=99s =
the way I=E2=80=99ll go next time.
>=20
> Regards,
> Dave MacKay
> TR3A s/n 68639L
> Near Toronto, Canada
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><span=
 class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>My =
experience with the cloth Robbins top has been, on the whole, positive. =
&nbsp;I had my top installed by a local Robbins dealer. &nbsp;The top =
looks perfect when up. &nbsp;The one difficulty is getting the top up. =
&nbsp;The top is hard to stretch into the latches. &nbsp;The fact that =
it is cloth and the back window can be unzipped makes it less difficult =
than my old Everflex top with a fixed window to get up. Last week I was =
having a seat repaired at another well respected top shop in town, and =
asked owner about the tight top issue. &nbsp;He told me that, in his =
experience, the Robbins tops for the TR6 were too tight in the section =
that went from the rear deck to the rear top frame member and that the =
difficulty in getting the top latched stemmed from this tightness.<div =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>As I said though, the top looks really great when it is =
up.</div><div class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>Best,</div><div class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>Bob<br =
class=3D""><div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>=E2=80=9972 TR6<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:54 PM, Dave MacKay =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
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<title class=3D"">Re: [TR] Convertible Top</title>

<div class=3D""><div dir=3D"LTR" class=3D""><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">In</font></span><span =
lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""> <font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">Triumphs =
Digest, Vol 12, Issue 59</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">,</font></span><span =
lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""> <font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">Message: =
1</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri" =
class=3D"">,</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font =
face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""></font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D"">=
 <font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">DAVID MASSEY &lt;</font></span><span =
lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""></span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><u class=3D""><font =
color=3D"#0563C1" face=3D"Calibri" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</font></u></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""></span></a><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font =
face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">&gt;</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""> =
wrote:</font></span></div><div dir=3D"LTR" class=3D""><span lang=3D"en-ca"=
 class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">&gt;</font></span><span =
lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">I am =
planning on ordering a new top and I see that TopsonLine carry both the =
Robbins and the EZ-On top.? Is the Robbins top worth the =
extra?</font></span></div><div class=3D""><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""></span><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div dir=3D"LTR" class=3D""><span=
 lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">I can=E2=80=99=
t speak to the EZ-On top, but my experienc</font></span><span =
lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">e with a =
Robbins tonneau that I bought a</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">bout 5</font></span><span =
lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""> years ago =
for my TR3A wasn=E2=80=99t good.</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""> </span></div><div dir=3D"LTR" class=3D""><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">I ordered a new Robbins =
tonneau to replace the Robbins tonneau</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""> <font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">that had torn after years =
of use.</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""> <font =
face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">The</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""> new</font></span><span =
lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""> tonneau =
didn=E2=80=99t fit.</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""> <font =
face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">I used a well regarded upholstery shop =
experi</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri"=
 class=3D"">enced in installing tops on British cars to install the =
tonneau, so I don=E2=80=99t think that the problems were due to the =
installation.</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""></span></div><div class=3D""><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""></span><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div =
dir=3D"LTR" class=3D""><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font =
face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">To remedy the problem, I =
sent</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""> <font face=3D"Calibri" =
class=3D"">Robbins</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font =
face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""> my</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""> <font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">old</font></span><span =
lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""> <font face=3D"Calibri" =
class=3D"">torn</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""> <font =
face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">tonneau</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""> <font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">and sent them some =
measurements that they requested.</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""> <font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">They made me a replacement =
tonneau which also didn=E2=80=99t fit.</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""> <font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">The steering wheel pocket =
was still off by about</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""> =
<font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">=C2=BD=E2=80=9D and the top was about =
=C2=BE=E2=80=9D too short. It was also a bit too narrow; =
I</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri" =
class=3D""> had</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font =
face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""> to have the installation shop sew in some =
vinyl</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""> <font face=3D"Calibri"=
 class=3D"">and a different zipper</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""> <font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">so that I could get it to =
zip up.</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""></span></div><div =
dir=3D"LTR" class=3D""><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font =
face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">The customer service from both Robbins and =
TRF was very good, but the final result was</font></span><span =
lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">n=E2=80=99t =
good. For what I had spent with the installer, I could have had them =
make a custom tonneau.</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font =
face=3D"Calibri" class=3D""> That=E2=80=99s the way I=E2=80=99ll go next =
time.</font></span></div><div class=3D""><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""></span><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div =
dir=3D"LTR" class=3D""><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font =
face=3D"Calibri" class=3D"">Regards,</font></span></div><div dir=3D"LTR" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri" =
class=3D"">Dave MacKay</font></span></div><div dir=3D"LTR" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri" =
class=3D"">TR3A s/n 68639L</font></span></div><div dir=3D"LTR" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"en-ca" class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri" =
class=3D"">Near Toronto, Canada</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca" =
class=3D""></span></div>

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From: Greg Lemon <[email-masked]>
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" He told me that, in his experience, the Robbins tops for the TR6 were too
tight in the section that went from the rear deck to the rear top frame
member and that the difficulty in getting the top latched stemmed from this
tightness."

I installed my Robbins top myself and have the same issue, glad to hear it
is a manufacturing issue and not the fault of the installer.  It looks
great up, and I kept fiddling with it until everything was fitting as it
should with no puckers or ripples, but yeah, very tight to put up.  I store
it with the top up in the winter to help prevent shrinkage (fingers
crossed).

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 5:43 PM Rochlin Robert <[email-masked]> wrote:

> My experience with the cloth Robbins top has been, on the whole,
> positive.  I had my top installed by a local Robbins dealer.  The top loo=
ks
> perfect when up.  The one difficulty is getting the top up.  The top is
> hard to stretch into the latches.  The fact that it is cloth and the back
> window can be unzipped makes it less difficult than my old Everflex top
> with a fixed window to get up. Last week I was having a seat repaired at
> another well respected top shop in town, and asked owner about the tight
> top issue.  He told me that, in his experience, the Robbins tops for the
> TR6 were too tight in the section that went from the rear deck to the rea=
r
> top frame member and that the difficulty in getting the top latched stemm=
ed
> from this tightness.
> In Triumphs Digest, Vol 12, Issue 59, Message: 1, DAVID MASSEY <
> [email-masked]* <[email-masked]>> wrote:
> >I am planning on ordering a new top and I see that TopsonLine carry both
> the Robbins and the EZ-On top.? Is the Robbins top worth the extra?
>
> I can=E2=80=99t speak to the EZ-On top, but my experience with a Robbins =
tonneau
> that I bought about 5 years ago for my TR3A wasn=E2=80=99t good.
> I ordered a new Robbins tonneau to replace the Robbins tonneau that had
> torn after years of use. The new tonneau didn=E2=80=99t fit. I used a wel=
l
> regarded upholstery shop experienced in installing tops on British cars
> to install the tonneau, so I don=E2=80=99t think that the problems were d=
ue to the
> installation.
>
> To remedy the problem, I sent Robbins my old torn tonneau and sent them
> some measurements that they requested. They made me a replacement tonneau
> which also didn=E2=80=99t fit. The steering wheel pocket was still off by=
 about =C2=BD=E2=80=9D
> and the top was about =C2=BE=E2=80=9D too short. It was also a bit too na=
rrow; I had
> to have the installation shop sew in some vinyl and a different zipper so
> that I could get it to zip up.
> The customer service from both Robbins and TRF was very good, but the
> final result wasn=E2=80=99t good. For what I had spent with the installer=
, I
> could have had them make a custom tonneau. That=E2=80=99s the way I=E2=80=
=99ll go next
> time.
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<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">&=
quot; He told me that, in his experience, the Robbins tops for the TR6 were=
 too tight in the section that went from the rear deck to the rear top fram=
e member and that the difficulty in getting the top latched stemmed from th=
is tightness.&quot;</span><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans=
-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"=
font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">I installed my Robbins top myself =
and have the same issue, glad to hear it is a manufacturing issue and not t=
he fault of the installer.=C2=A0 It looks great up, and I kept fiddling wit=
h it until everything was fitting as it should with no puckers or ripples, =
but yeah, very tight to put up.=C2=A0 I store it with the top up in the win=
ter to help prevent shrinkage (fingers crossed).</span></div><div dir=3D"au=
to"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></span></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"=
>Greg Lemon=C2=A0</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:=
sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">TR250</span></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 5:43 P=
M Rochlin Robert &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">rrochlin@comca=
st.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D=
"word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><span class=3D"m_-82327=
0259048917115Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>My expe=
rience with the cloth Robbins top has been, on the whole, positive.=C2=A0 I=
 had my top installed by a local Robbins dealer.=C2=A0 The top looks perfec=
t when up.=C2=A0 The one difficulty is getting the top up.=C2=A0 The top is=
 hard to stretch into the latches.=C2=A0 The fact that it is cloth and the =
back window can be unzipped makes it less difficult than my old Everflex to=
p with a fixed window to get up. Last week I was having a seat repaired at =
another well respected top shop in town, and asked owner about the tight to=
p issue.=C2=A0 He told me that, in his experience, the Robbins tops for the=
 TR6 were too tight in the section that went from the rear deck to the rear=
 top frame member and that the difficulty in getting the top latched stemme=
d from this tightness.<div><span class=3D"m_-823270259048917115Apple-tab-sp=
an" style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>As I said though, the top looks =
really great when it is up.</div><div><span class=3D"m_-823270259048917115A=
pple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>Best,</div><div><span=
 class=3D"m_-823270259048917115Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre-wra=
p">	</span>Bob<br><div><span class=3D"m_-823270259048917115Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>=E2=80=9972 TR6<br><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div>On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:54 PM, Dave MacKay &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"m_-823270259048917115Apple-interchange-new=
line"><div>

<div><div dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">In</font>=
</span><span lang=3D"en-ca"> <font face=3D"Calibri">Triumphs Digest, Vol 12=
, Issue 59</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">,</font=
></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"> <font face=3D"Calibri">Message: 1</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">,</font></span><span lang=3D"=
en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri"></font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"> <font fac=
e=3D"Calibri">DAVID MASSEY &lt;</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"><s=
pan lang=3D"en-ca"><u><font color=3D"#0563C1" face=3D"Calibri">dave1massey@=
cs.com</font></u></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span></a><span lang=3D"en-ca=
"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=
=3D"Calibri"> wrote:</font></span></div><div dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-c=
a"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=
=3D"Calibri">I am planning on ordering a new top and I see that TopsonLine =
carry both the Robbins and the EZ-On top.? Is the Robbins top worth the ext=
ra?</font></span></div><div><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span lang=3D"en-ca=
"></span><br class=3D"m_-823270259048917115webkit-block-placeholder"></div>=
<div dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">I can=E2=80=99=
t speak to the EZ-On top, but my experienc</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca=
"><font face=3D"Calibri">e with a Robbins tonneau that I bought a</font></s=
pan><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">bout 5</font></span><span l=
ang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri"> years ago for my TR3A wasn=E2=80=99t =
good.</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"> </span></div><div dir=3D"LTR"><spa=
n lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">I ordered a new Robbins tonneau to =
replace the Robbins tonneau</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"> <font face=
=3D"Calibri">that had torn after years of use.</font></span><span lang=3D"e=
n-ca"> <font face=3D"Calibri">The</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font f=
ace=3D"Calibri"> new</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibr=
i"> tonneau didn=E2=80=99t fit.</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"> <font fa=
ce=3D"Calibri">I used a well regarded upholstery shop experi</font></span><=
span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">enced in installing tops on Brit=
ish cars to install the tonneau, so I don=E2=80=99t think that the problems=
 were due to the installation.</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span></d=
iv><div><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><br class=3D"m_-823270259048917115webki=
t-block-placeholder"></div><div dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=
=3D"Calibri">To remedy the problem, I sent</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca=
"> <font face=3D"Calibri">Robbins</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font f=
ace=3D"Calibri"> my</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"> <font face=3D"Calibr=
i">old</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"> <font face=3D"Calibri">torn</font=
></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"> <font face=3D"Calibri">tonneau</font></span><=
span lang=3D"en-ca"> <font face=3D"Calibri">and sent them some measurements=
 that they requested.</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"> <font face=3D"Cali=
bri">They made me a replacement tonneau which also didn=E2=80=99t fit.</fon=
t></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"> <font face=3D"Calibri">The steering wheel po=
cket was still off by about</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"> <font face=
=3D"Calibri">=C2=BD=E2=80=9D and the top was about =C2=BE=E2=80=9D too shor=
t. It was also a bit too narrow; I</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font =
face=3D"Calibri"> had</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calib=
ri"> to have the installation shop sew in some vinyl</font></span><span lan=
g=3D"en-ca"> <font face=3D"Calibri">and a different zipper</font></span><sp=
an lang=3D"en-ca"> <font face=3D"Calibri">so that I could get it to zip up.=
</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span></div><div dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=
=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">The customer service from both Robbins an=
d TRF was very good, but the final result was</font></span><span lang=3D"en=
-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">n=E2=80=99t good. For what I had spent with the=
 installer, I could have had them make a custom tonneau.</font></span><span=
 lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri"> That=E2=80=99s the way I=E2=80=99ll=
 go next time.</font></span></div><div><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><br clas=
s=3D"m_-823270259048917115webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div dir=3D"LTR">=
<span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">Regards,</font></span></div><di=
v dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">Dave MacKay</font=
></span></div><div dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">=
TR3A s/n 68639L</font></span></div><div dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><f=
ont face=3D"Calibri">Near Toronto, Canada</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"=
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All right, I give up.  No way to escape this with the dignity of anonymity.

Rear axle seals that fit in the housing come as I guess neoprene.  One side is flat with a metal facing and a bit of lip, and the other side is concave where the neoprene is compressed with a circular spring.

Which side is supposed to face toward the outside of the car?  The side where  you can see the spring, or the side with the metal facing?

I can't find a picture or description anywhere, other than the obscure "The lips of the oil seal should be facing inward."

Ugh!

Terry Smith, '59 TR3A

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Spring toward center of car, metal facing outwards.  The spring side is 
also the "lips" side.

- Tony

On 3/23/2019 3:45 PM, TERRY SMITH wrote:
> Rear axle seals that fit in the housing come as I guess neoprene.  One 
> side is flat with a metal facing and a bit of lip, and the other side 
> is concave where the neoprene is compressed with a circular spring.
>
>
> Which side is supposed to face toward the outside of the car?  The 
> side where  you can see the spring, or the side with the metal facing?
>
>
> I can't find a picture or description anywhere, other than the obscure 
> "The lips of the oil seal should be facing inward."
>
>
> Ugh!
>
>
> Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
>
>
>
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    <p>Spring toward center of car, metal facing outwards.  The spring
      side is also the "lips" side.<br>
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    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/23/2019 3:45 PM, TERRY SMITH
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style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:#333333;"
        class="default-style">All right, I give up.  No way to escape
        this with the dignity of anonymity.<br>
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style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:#333333;"
        class="default-style"><br>
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      <p
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:#333333;"
        class="default-style">Rear axle seals that fit in the housing
        come as I guess neoprene.  One side is flat with a metal facing
        and a bit of lip, and the other side is concave where the
        neoprene is compressed with a circular spring.<br>
      </p>
      <p
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:#333333;"
        class="default-style"><br>
      </p>
      <p
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:#333333;"
        class="default-style">Which side is supposed to face toward the
        outside of the car?  The side where  you can see the spring, or
        the side with the metal facing?<br>
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      <p
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:#333333;"
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      <p
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:#333333;"
        class="default-style">I can't find a picture or description
        anywhere, other than the obscure "The lips of the oil seal
        should be facing inward."<br>
      </p>
      <p
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:#333333;"
        class="default-style"><br>
      </p>
      <p
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:#333333;"
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The spring should face the oil.

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From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
TERRY SMITH
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 4:46 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] Rear Axle Inner Seals

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All right, I give up.  No way to escape this with the dignity of =
anonymity.

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Rear axle seals that fit in the housing come as I guess neoprene.  One =
side is flat with a metal facing and a bit of lip, and the other side is =
concave where the neoprene is compressed with a circular spring.

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Which side is supposed to face toward the outside of the car?  The side =
where  you can see the spring, or the side with the metal facing?

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I can't find a picture or description anywhere, other than the obscure =
"The lips of the oil seal should be facing inward."

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Ugh!

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</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>TERRY SMITH<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 23, 2019 4:46 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] Rear =
Axle Inner Seals<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3Ddefault-style><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>All right, =
I give up.&nbsp; No way to escape this with the dignity of =
anonymity.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Ddefault-style><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p><p class=3Ddefault-style><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Rear axle =
seals that fit in the housing come as I guess neoprene.&nbsp; One side =
is flat with a metal facing and a bit of lip, and the other side is =
concave where the neoprene is compressed with a circular =
spring.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Ddefault-style><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p><p class=3Ddefault-style><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Which side =
is supposed to face toward the outside of the car?&nbsp; The side =
where&nbsp; you can see the spring, or the side with the metal =
facing?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Ddefault-style><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p><p class=3Ddefault-style><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>I can't =
find a picture or description anywhere, other than the obscure &quot;The =
lips of the oil seal should be facing =
inward.&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Ddefault-style><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p><p class=3Ddefault-style><span =
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