Subject: [TR] Name that distributor (TR3)

From: "Art McEwen" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 20:19:17 -0400

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=A0Hi =

The backing plate on my TR3=27s distributor has a lot of play in it so t=
iming is problematic=2E I ordered a new one from Moss however that part =
(551-055) doesn=27t have the same tall
attachment for the low tension lead leading outside the cap (see old uni=
t on the left)=3A https=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG=5F=
20181014=5F103805763=2Ejpg=3Fdl=3D0

The distributor is stamped 40480D (see below) which doesn=27t seem to be=
 within the range of their 25D model matching (if I go down the electron=
ic replacement match-up rabbit hole)=2E =

https=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG=5F20181014=5F1047562=
91=2Ejpg=3Fdl=3D0

Do I have a non-standard distributor=3F Any idea the right part =23 for =
my backing plate=3F Or should I just bite the bullet and go electronic=3F=

Thanks=2C

Art =

1960 TR3A TS64989LO

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From: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 19:17:58 -0700 (PDT)

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Talk to Jeff at Advanced Distributors.com.  He is the guy for British car distributor related issues.  He could rebuild your original distributor to better than anything you can buy new condition, with points or Pertronix, for a great price.  

Dave H.

> On October 14, 2018 at 5:19 PM Art McEwen <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
>      Hi 
> 
>     The backing plate on my TR3's distributor has a lot of play in it so timing is problematic.  I ordered a new one from Moss however that part (551-055) doesn't have the same tall attachment for the low tension lead leading outside the cap (see old unit on the left): https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG_20181014_103805763.jpg?dl=0
> 
>     The distributor is stamped 40480D (see below) which doesn't seem to be within the range of their 25D model matching (if I go down the electronic replacement match-up rabbit hole).
>     https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG_20181014_104756291.jpg?dl=0
> 
>     Do I have a non-standard distributor?  Any idea the right part # for my backing plate?   Or should I just bite the bullet and go electronic?
> 
>     Thanks,
> 
>     Art
>     1960 TR3A  TS64989LO ** [email-masked] **
> 
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m.&#160; He is the guy for British car distributor related issues.&#160; He=
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160;Hi&#160; <br><div><br></div><div>The backing plate on my TR3&#39;s dist=
ributor has a lot of play in it so timing is problematic.&#160; I ordered a=
 new one from Moss however that part (551-055) doesn&#39;t have the same ta=
ll attachment for the low tension lead leading outside the cap (see old uni=
t on the left): https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG_20181014_1038=
05763.jpg?dl=3D0 <br></div><br>The distributor is stamped 40480D (see below=
) which doesn&#39;t seem to be within the range of their 25D model matching=
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<br>Do I have a non-standard distributor?&#160; Any idea the right part # f=
or my backing plate?&#160;&#160; Or should I just bite the bullet and go el=
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From: Geo Hahn <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 22:16:32 -0700

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On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 6:56 PM Art McEwen <[email-masked]> wrote:

> The distributor is stamped 40480D (see below) which doesn't seem to be
> within the range of their 25D model matching...
>
> Do I have a non-standard distributor?  Any idea the right part # for my
> backing plate?
>

40480 is a correct TR3A distributor (and what I use).  It is a DM2P4, not a
25D4.

Backing plate is pretty common, same one was used on MGs and even
6-cylinder E-Types - I am surprised Moss sent you one without that fitting.

Geo

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Oct 14=
, 2018 at 6:56 PM Art McEwen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">amce=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div>The
 distributor is stamped 40480D (see below) which doesn&#39;t seem to be=20
within the range of their 25D model matching...</div><br>Do
 I have a non-standard distributor?=C2=A0 Any idea the right part # for my=
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backing plate?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>40480 is a correct TR3A =
distributor (and what I use).=C2=A0 It is a DM2P4, not a 25D4.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Backing plate is pretty common, same one was used on MGs and e=
ven 6-cylinder E-Types - I am surprised Moss sent you one without that fitt=
ing.</div><div><br></div><div>Geo=C2=A0</div></div></div>

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From: "Art McEwen" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 09:25:21 -0400

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Thanks Geo,
 
Yeah if you drill down their website under TR3 ignition the exploded diagram shows the tab but the photo of the part does not.   Further raising doubt in my mind is the fact that my distributor cap has the wires out the top instead of the side like the diagram.  
 
Email into Moss as well.
 
Art.
 
On 10/15/18, Geo Hahn <[email-masked]> wrote: 
> >  The distributor is stamped 40480D (see below) which doesn't seem to be within the range of their 25D model matching...
> > 
> > Do I have a non-standard distributor?  Any idea the right part # for my backing plate?
> > 
>  
> 
> 40480 is a correct TR3A distributor (and what I use).  It is a DM2P4, not a 25D4.
> 
> 
> Backing plate is pretty common, same one was used on MGs and even 6-cylinder E-Types - I am surprised Moss sent you one without that fitting.
> 
> 
> Geo 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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<DIV>Thanks Geo,</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Yeah if you drill down their website under TR3 ignition the exploded diagram shows the tab but the photo of the part does not.&nbsp;&nbsp; Further raising doubt in my mind is the fact that my distributor cap has the wires out the top instead of the side like the diagram.&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Email into Moss as well.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Art.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><SPAN>On 10/15/18, <B class=name>Geo Hahn </B>&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</SPAN>
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<DIV dir=ltr>On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 6:56 PM Art McEwen &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]" >[email-masked]</A>&gt; wrote:<br /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<DIV>The distributor is stamped 40480D (see below) which doesn't seem to be within the range of their 25D model matching...</DIV><br />Do I have a non-standard distributor?&nbsp; Any idea the right part # for my backing plate?<br /></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><br /></DIV><DIV>40480 is a correct TR3A distributor (and what I use).&nbsp; It is a DM2P4, not a 25D4.</DIV><DIV><br /></DIV><DIV>Backing plate is pretty common, same one was used on MGs and even 6-cylinder E-Types - I am surprised Moss sent you one without that fitting.</DIV><DIV><br /></DIV><DIV>Geo&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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From: "Randall" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 08:47:26 -0500

40480D is an earlier model DM2P4 distributor.  The information I have handy
says 40480F (which is functionally the same and still DM2P4, the letter is
just a revision level) was used as late as 1959 TR3, some of which were sold
in 1960.

That same database says cars built in 1960 got 40698A/B, which is still a
DM2P4.

The Moss catalog is certainly misleading, as they show a drawing of the
plate for a DM2P4, but the listing says it is for a 25D4.  They have no
listing for the earlier part (which I assume means it is not available).  I
believe the equivalent part number at TRF would be LU421078, which they have
listed as NLA.  You might check with Revington, he seems to source a lot of
parts the others can't find.

Faced with that same dilemma some years ago, I fabricated a mount for the
low tension lead that worked quite well.  Just a stack of pieces of bare
fiberglass printed circuit board (from the scrap bin, no copper plating),
carved with a Dremel to fit snug but not too tight in the slot in the
distributor cap.  A small bolt through the center linked the two wires.
IIRC I used 3 pieces of PC board, one smaller to fit inside the notch and
two slightly larger to fit on either side of the notch.  A little extra work
to install the cap, as I had to hold the side wire to position the new piece
in the slot, as I lowered the cap into place, but not too bad.

Later, I switched to a (used) 25D4 distributor.

-- Randall  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On 
> Behalf Of Art McEwen
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 7:19 PM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: [TR] Name that distributor (TR3)
> 
>  Hi  
> 
> 
> The backing plate on my TR3's distributor has a lot of play 
> in it so timing is problematic.  I ordered a new one from 
> Moss however that part (551-055) doesn't have the same tall 
> attachment for the low tension lead leading outside the cap 
> (see old unit on the left): 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG_20181014_1038057
> 63.jpg?dl=0
> 
> 
> The distributor is stamped 40480D (see below) which doesn't 
> seem to be within the range of their 25D model matching (if I 
> go down the electronic replacement match-up rabbit hole). 
> Do I have a non-standard distributor?  Any idea the right 
> part # for my backing plate?   Or should I just bite the 
> bullet and go electronic?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Art 
> 1960 TR3A  TS64989LO 
>

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From: "Art McEwen" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 10:33:53 -0400

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Thanks Randall,
 
Yes they sent me LU422318 according to the packaging.   It appears from britishvacuumunit.com that that part along with LU54413549 (moss 153-640) might work, although it's not clear from any of the photos if that terminal connector is meant to fit *over* the fork of LU421078 or *instead* of the fork.  
 
To further complicate things the internal contacts on my "up style" distributor cap are pretty crappy and I have a brand new sideways style unit I picked up somewhere, but that means new leads.  sigh....
 
Art
 
On 10/15/18, Randall <[email-masked]> wrote:

> > From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <[email-masked]]> On 
> > Behalf Of Art McEwen

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From: "wbeech" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:03:41 -0500

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Art,

Can't you just cut the ends on the leads and fit them into the side entry
cap?

Bill

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Art
McEwen
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 9:34 AM
To: Randall <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Name that distributor (TR3)

Thanks Randall,

Yes they sent me LU422318 according to the packaging.   It appears from
britishvacuumunit.com that that part along with LU54413549 (moss 153-640)
might work, although it's not clear from any of the photos if that terminal
connector is meant to fit *over* the fork of LU421078 or *instead* of the
fork.  

To further complicate things the internal contacts on my "up style"
distributor cap are pretty crappy and I have a brand new sideways style unit
I picked up somewhere, but that means new leads.  sigh....

Art

wrote:

-- Randall  

> bullet and go electronic?

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>Art,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Can&#8217;t you just cut the ends on the leads and fit them into the =
side entry cap?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Art McEwen<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 15, 2018 9:34 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Randall &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Name that =
distributor (TR3)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks =
Randall,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Yes they sent me&nbsp;LU422318 according to the =
packaging.&nbsp;&nbsp; It appears from britishvacuumunit.com that that =
part along with LU54413549 (moss 153-640) might work, although it's not =
clear from any of the photos if that terminal connector is meant to fit =
*over* the fork of LU421078 or *instead* of&nbsp;the fork.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>To further complicate things the internal contacts =
on&nbsp;my&nbsp;&quot;up style&quot;&nbsp;distributor cap are pretty =
crappy and I have a brand new sideways style unit I picked up somewhere, =
but that means new leads.&nbsp; sigh....<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Art<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 10/15/18, <b>Randall </b>&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
10.0pt;margin-left:0in;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>40480D is an earlier =
model DM2P4 distributor.&nbsp; The information I have handy<br>says =
40480F (which is functionally the same and still DM2P4, the letter =
is<br>just a revision level) was used as late as 1959 TR3, some of which =
were sold<br>in 1960.<br><br>That same database says cars built in 1960 =
got 40698A/B, which is still a<br>DM2P4.<br><br>The Moss catalog is =
certainly misleading, as they show a drawing of the<br>plate for a =
DM2P4, but the listing says it is for a 25D4.&nbsp; They have =
no<br>listing for the earlier part (which I assume means it is not =
available).&nbsp; I<br>believe the equivalent part number at TRF would =
be LU421078, which they have<br>listed as NLA.&nbsp; You might check =
with Revington, he seems to source a lot of<br>parts the others can't =
find.<br><br>Faced with that same dilemma some years ago, I fabricated a =
mount for the<br>low tension lead that worked quite well.&nbsp; Just a =
stack of pieces of bare<br>fiberglass printed circuit board (from the =
scrap bin, no copper plating),<br>carved with a Dremel to fit snug but =
not too tight in the slot in the<br>distributor cap.&nbsp; A small bolt =
through the center linked the two wires.<br>IIRC I used 3 pieces of PC =
board, one smaller to fit inside the notch and<br>two slightly larger to =
fit on either side of the notch.&nbsp; A little extra work<br>to install =
the cap, as I had to hold the side wire to position the new piece<br>in =
the slot, as I lowered the cap into place, but not too =
bad.<br><br>Later, I switched to a (used) 25D4 distributor.<br><br>-- =
Randall&nbsp; <br><br>&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>&gt; From: =
Triumphs [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]]">mailto:triumphs-bounces@=
autox.team.net]</a> On <br>&gt; Behalf Of Art McEwen<br>&gt; Sent: =
Sunday, October 14, 2018 7:19 PM<br>&gt; To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>&g=
t; Subject: [TR] Name that distributor (TR3)<br>&gt; <br>&gt;&nbsp; =
Hi&nbsp; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; The backing plate on my TR3's =
distributor has a lot of play <br>&gt; in it so timing is =
problematic.&nbsp; I ordered a new one from <br>&gt; Moss however that =
part (551-055) doesn't have the same tall <br>&gt; attachment for the =
low tension lead leading outside the cap <br>&gt; (see old unit on the =
left): <br>&gt; <a =
href=3D"https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG_20181014_1038057" =
target=3Dl>https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG_20181014_1038057=
</a><br>&gt; 63.jpg?dl=3D0<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; The distributor is =
stamped 40480D (see below) which doesn't <br>&gt; seem to be within the =
range of their 25D model matching (if I <br>&gt; go down the electronic =
replacement match-up rabbit hole). <br>&gt; <a =
href=3D"https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG_20181014_1047562" =
target=3Dl>https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG_20181014_1047562=
</a><br>&gt; 91.jpg?dl=3D0<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Do I have a non-standard =
distributor?&nbsp; Any idea the right <br>&gt; part # for my backing =
plate?&nbsp;&nbsp; Or should I just bite the <br>&gt; bullet and go =
electronic?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Thanks,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Art <br>&gt; 1960 =
TR3A&nbsp; TS64989LO <br>&gt; <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p =
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From: "Art McEwen" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:33:46 -0400

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Hi Bill=2C   I could but they=27re old too so probably losing smoke anyw=
ay=2E
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On 10/15/18=2C wbeech =3Cwbeech=40flash=2Enet=3E wrote=3A =

=3E   =

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=3E   =

=3E Art=2C
=3E  =

=3E Can=92t you just cut the ends on the leads and fit them into the sid=
e entry cap=3F
=3E  =

=3E Bill
=3E  =

=3E  =

=3E  =

=3E From=3A Triumphs =5Bmailto=3Atriumphs-bounces=40autox=2Eteam=2Enet=5D=
 On Behalf Of Art McEwen
=3E Sent=3A Monday=2C October 15=2C 2018 9=3A34 AM
=3E To=3A Randall =3Ctr3driver=40ca=2Err=2Ecom=3E=3B triumphs=40autox=2E=
team=2Enet
=3E Subject=3A Re=3A =5BTR=5D Name that distributor (TR3)
=3E  =

=3E  =

=3E   =

=3E Thanks Randall=2C
=3E =

=3E  =

=3E  =

=3E =

=3E  =

=3E Yes they sent me LU422318 according to the packaging=2E   It appears=
 from britishvacuumunit=2Ecom that that part along with LU54413549 (moss=
 153-640) might work=2C although it=27s not clear from any of the photos=
 if that terminal connector is meant to fit *over* the fork of LU421078 =
or *instead* of the fork=2E  =

=3E =

=3E  =

=3E  =

=3E =

=3E  =

=3E To further complicate things the internal contacts on my =22up style=
=22 distributor cap are pretty crappy and I have a brand new sideways st=
yle unit I picked up somewhere=2C but that means new leads=2E  sigh=2E=2E=
=2E=2E
=3E =

=3E  =

=3E  =

=3E =

=3E  =

=3E Art
=3E =

=3E  =

=3E  =

=3E =

=3E  =

=3E On 10/15/18=2C Randall =3Ctr3driver=40ca=2Err=2Ecom=3E wrote=3A
=3E =

=3E =

=3E =3E   =

=3E =3E 40480D is an earlier model DM2P4 distributor=2E  The information=
 I have handy
=3E =3E says 40480F (which is functionally the same and still DM2P4=2C t=
he letter is
=3E =3E just a revision level) was used as late as 1959 TR3=2C some of w=
hich were sold
=3E =3E in 1960=2E
=3E =3E =

=3E =3E That same database says cars built in 1960 got 40698A/B=2C which=
 is still a
=3E =3E DM2P4=2E
=3E =3E =

=3E =3E The Moss catalog is certainly misleading=2C as they show a drawi=
ng of the
=3E =3E plate for a DM2P4=2C but the listing says it is for a 25D4=2E  T=
hey have no
=3E =3E listing for the earlier part (which I assume means it is not ava=
ilable)=2E  I
=3E =3E believe the equivalent part number at TRF would be LU421078=2C w=
hich they have
=3E =3E listed as NLA=2E  You might check with Revington=2C he seems to =
source a lot of
=3E =3E parts the others can=27t find=2E
=3E =3E =

=3E =3E Faced with that same dilemma some years ago=2C I fabricated a mo=
unt for the
=3E =3E low tension lead that worked quite well=2E  Just a stack of piec=
es of bare
=3E =3E fiberglass printed circuit board (from the scrap bin=2C no coppe=
r plating)=2C
=3E =3E carved with a Dremel to fit snug but not too tight in the slot i=
n the
=3E =3E distributor cap=2E  A small bolt through the center linked the t=
wo wires=2E
=3E =3E IIRC I used 3 pieces of PC board=2C one smaller to fit inside th=
e notch and
=3E =3E two slightly larger to fit on either side of the notch=2E  A lit=
tle extra work
=3E =3E to install the cap=2C as I had to hold the side wire to position=
 the new piece
=3E =3E in the slot=2C as I lowered the cap into place=2C but not too ba=
d=2E
=3E =3E =

=3E =3E Later=2C I switched to a (used) 25D4 distributor=2E
=3E =3E =

=3E =3E -- Randall  =

=3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E -----Original Message-----
=3E =3E =3E From=3A Triumphs =5Bmailto=3Atriumphs-bounces=40autox=2Eteam=
=2Enet=5D =3Ctriumphs-bounces=40autox=2Eteam=2Enet=5D=3E On =

=3E =3E =3E Behalf Of Art McEwen
=3E =3E =3E Sent=3A Sunday=2C October 14=2C 2018 7=3A19 PM
=3E =3E =3E To=3A triumphs=40autox=2Eteam=2Enet
=3E =3E =3E Subject=3A =5BTR=5D Name that distributor (TR3)
=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E  Hi  =

=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E The backing plate on my TR3=27s distributor has a lot of pla=
y =

=3E =3E =3E in it so timing is problematic=2E  I ordered a new one from =

=3E =3E =3E Moss however that part (551-055) doesn=27t have the same tal=
l =

=3E =3E =3E attachment for the low tension lead leading outside the cap =

=3E =3E =3E (see old unit on the left)=3A =

=3E =3E =3E https=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG=5F201810=
14=5F1038057
=3E =3E =3E 63=2Ejpg=3Fdl=3D0
=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E The distributor is stamped 40480D (see below) which doesn=27=
t =

=3E =3E =3E seem to be within the range of their 25D model matching (if =
I =

=3E =3E =3E go down the electronic replacement match-up rabbit hole)=2E =

=3E =3E =3E https=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG=5F201810=
14=5F1047562
=3E =3E =3E 91=2Ejpg=3Fdl=3D0
=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E Do I have a non-standard distributor=3F  Any idea the right =

=3E =3E =3E part =23 for my backing plate=3F   Or should I just bite the=
 =

=3E =3E =3E bullet and go electronic=3F
=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E Thanks=2C
=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E Art =

=3E =3E =3E 1960 TR3A  TS64989LO =

=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =

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=3CP class=3DMsoNormal=3E=26nbsp=3B=3Co=3Ap=3E=3C/o=3Ap=3E=3C/P=3E=3C/DI=
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=3CP class=3DMsoNormal=3EOn 10/15/18=2C =3CB=3ERandall =3C/B=3E=26lt=3B=3C=
a href=3D=22mailto=3Atr3driver=40ca=2Err=2Ecom=22 =3Etr3driver=40ca=2Err=
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=3CDIV=3E
=3CP class=3DMsoNormal style=3D=22MARGIN-BOTTOM=3A 12pt=22=3E40480D is a=
n earlier model DM2P4 distributor=2E=26nbsp=3B The information I have ha=
ndy=3Cbr /=3Esays 40480F (which is functionally the same and still DM2P4=
=2C the letter is=3Cbr /=3Ejust a revision level) was used as late as 19=
59 TR3=2C some of which were sold=3Cbr /=3Ein 1960=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3E=
That same database says cars built in 1960 got 40698A/B=2C which is stil=
l a=3Cbr /=3EDM2P4=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3EThe Moss catalog is certainly m=
isleading=2C as they show a drawing of the=3Cbr /=3Eplate for a DM2P4=2C=
 but the listing says it is for a 25D4=2E=26nbsp=3B They have no=3Cbr /=3E=
listing for the earlier part (which I assume means it is not available)=2E=
=26nbsp=3B I=3Cbr /=3Ebelieve the equivalent part number at TRF would be=
 LU421078=2C which they have=3Cbr /=3Elisted as NLA=2E=26nbsp=3B You mig=
ht check with Revington=2C he seems to source a lot of=3Cbr /=3Eparts th=
e others can=27t find=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3EFaced with that same dilemma=
 some years ago=2C I fabricated a mount for the=3Cbr /=3Elow tension lea=
d that worked quite well=2E=26nbsp=3B Just a stack of pieces of bare=3Cb=
r /=3Efiberglass printed circuit board (from the scrap bin=2C no copper =
plating)=2C=3Cbr /=3Ecarved with a Dremel to fit snug but not too tight =
in the slot in the=3Cbr /=3Edistributor cap=2E=26nbsp=3B A small bolt th=
rough the center linked the two wires=2E=3Cbr /=3EIIRC I used 3 pieces o=
f PC board=2C one smaller to fit inside the notch and=3Cbr /=3Etwo sligh=
tly larger to fit on either side of the notch=2E=26nbsp=3B A little extr=
a work=3Cbr /=3Eto install the cap=2C as I had to hold the side wire to =
position the new piece=3Cbr /=3Ein the slot=2C as I lowered the cap into=
 place=2C but not too bad=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3ELater=2C I switched to a=
 (used) 25D4 distributor=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3E-- Randall=26nbsp=3B =3Cb=
r /=3E=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B -----Original Message-----=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Fr=
om=3A Triumphs =5B=3Ca href=3D=22mailto=3Atriumphs-bounces=40autox=2Etea=
m=2Enet=5D=22 =3Emailto=3Atriumphs-bounces=40autox=2Eteam=2Enet=5D=3C/A=3E=
 On =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Behalf Of Art McEwen=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Sent=3A Su=
nday=2C October 14=2C 2018 7=3A19 PM=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B To=3A =3Ca href=3D=
=22mailto=3Atriumphs=40autox=2Eteam=2Enet=22 =3Etriumphs=40autox=2Eteam=2E=
net=3C/A=3E=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Subject=3A =5BTR=5D Name that distributor =
(TR3)=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B=26nbsp=3B Hi=26nbsp=3B =3Cbr =
/=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B The backing plate on =
my TR3=27s distributor has a lot of play =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B in it so tim=
ing is problematic=2E=26nbsp=3B I ordered a new one from =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=
=3B Moss however that part (551-055) doesn=27t have the same tall =3Cbr =
/=3E=26gt=3B attachment for the low tension lead leading outside the cap=
 =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B (see old unit on the left)=3A =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3C=
a href=3D=22https=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG=5F201810=
14=5F1038057=22 target=3D1 =3Ehttps=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/wzxo5gpd3t=
nuaei/IMG=5F20181014=5F1038057=3C/A=3E=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B 63=2Ejpg=3Fdl=3D=
0=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B The distributo=
r is stamped 40480D (see below) which doesn=27t =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B seem =
to be within the range of their 25D model matching (if I =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=
=3B go down the electronic replacement match-up rabbit hole)=2E =3Cbr /=3E=
=26gt=3B =3Ca href=3D=22https=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/=
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jpg=3Fdl=3D0=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Do I have a non-standa=
rd distributor=3F=26nbsp=3B Any idea the right =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B part =23=
 for my backing plate=3F=26nbsp=3B=26nbsp=3B Or should I just bite the =3C=
br /=3E=26gt=3B bullet and go electronic=3F=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=
=26gt=3B Thanks=2C=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Art =3Cbr /=3E=26=
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From: "Art McEwen" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 18:54:05 -0400

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Well Moss has a lt lead that will work with that plate but when I go to =
switch the 1 month old points/condenser from the old plate to the new on=
e I find the new one doesn=27t have a pivot post for the points assembly=
 grr=2E

So now I have to pay shipping for new points (=27cause they didn=27t tel=
l me that when they explained the plate difference)=2E

https=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/locovgzt497v9zg/IMG=5F0782=2EJPG=3Fdl=3D=
0

On 10/15/18=2C =22Art McEwen=22  =3Camcewen2=40cogeco=2Eca=3E wrote=3A
=3E Thanks Randall=2C
=3E  =

=3E Yes they sent me=A0LU422318 according to the packaging=2E It appears=
 from britishvacuumunit=2Ecom that that part along with LU54413549 (moss=
 153-640) might work=2C although it=27s not clear from any of the photos=
 if that terminal connector is meant to fit *over* the fork of LU421078 =
or *instead* of=A0the fork=2E =

=3E  =

=3E To further complicate things the internal contacts on=A0my=A0=22up s=
tyle=22=A0distributor cap are pretty crappy and I have a brand new sidew=
ays style unit I picked up somewhere=2C but that means new leads=2E sigh=
=2E=2E=2E=2E
=3E  =

=3E Art
=3E  =

=3E =3E The Moss catalog is certainly misleading=2C as they show a drawi=
ng of the
=3E =3E plate for a DM2P4=2C but the listing says it is for a 25D4=2E Th=
ey have no
=3E =3E listing for the earlier part (which I assume means it is not ava=
ilable)=2E I
=3E =3E believe the equivalent part number at TRF would be LU421078=2C w=
hich they have
=3E =3E listed as NLA=2E You might check with Revington=2C he seems to s=
ource a lot of
=3E =3E parts the others can=27t find=2E
=3E =3E =

=3E =3E Faced with that same dilemma some years ago=2C I fabricated a mo=
unt for the
=3E =3E low tension lead that worked quite well=2E Just a stack of piece=
s of bare
=3E =3E fiberglass printed circuit board (from the scrap bin=2C no coppe=
r plating)=2C
=3E =3E carved with a Dremel to fit snug but not too tight in the slot i=
n the
=3E =3E distributor cap=2E A small bolt through the center linked the tw=
o wires=2E
=3E =3E IIRC I used 3 pieces of PC board=2C one smaller to fit inside th=
e notch and
=3E =3E two slightly larger to fit on either side of the notch=2E A litt=
le extra work
=3E =3E to install the cap=2C as I had to hold the side wire to position=
 the new piece
=3E =3E in the slot=2C as I lowered the cap into place=2C but not too ba=
d=2E
=3E =3E =

=3E =3E -- Randall =

=3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E Hi =

=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E part =23 for my backing plate=3F Or should I just bite the =

=3E =3E =3E Thanks=2C
=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E Art =

=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =

=3E =3E =

=3E =3E =

=3E   =

=3E  =

=3E 

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=3Cdiv=3EWell Moss has a lt lead that will work with that plate but when=
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he new one I find the new one doesn=27t have a pivot post for the points=
 assembly=A0 grr=2E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3E=3Cbr /=3E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3ESo no=
w I have to pay shipping for new points (=27cause they didn=27t tell me =
that when they explained the plate difference)=2E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3E=3Cb=
r /=3E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3Ehttps=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/locovgzt497v9zg=
/IMG=5F0782=2EJPG=3Fdl=3D0=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3E=3Cbr /=3E=3C/div=3E=3Cbr /=
=3E=3Cspan=3EOn 10/15/18=2C =3Cb class=3D=22name=22=3E=26quot=3BArt McEw=
en=26quot=3B =3C/b=3E =26lt=3Bamcewen2=40cogeco=2Eca=26gt=3B wrote=3A=3C=
/span=3E=3Cblockquote cite=3D=22mid=3A7240883f196f1=2E5bc46d11=40cgocabl=
e=2Eca=22 class=3D=22iwcQuote=22 style=3D=22border-left=3A 1px solid =23=
00F=3B padding-left=3A 13px=3B margin-left=3A 0=3B=22 type=3D=22cite=22=3E=
=3Cdiv class=3D=22mimepart text html=22=3E=3Cdiv=3EThanks Randall=2C=3C/=
div=3E=3Cdiv =3E=3Cbr/=3E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3EYes they sent me=A0LU422318 =
according to the packaging=2E=A0=A0 It appears from britishvacuumunit=2E=
com that that part along with LU54413549 (moss 153-640) might work=2C al=
though it=27s not clear from any of the photos if that terminal connecto=
r is meant to fit *over* the fork of LU421078 or *instead* of=A0the fork=
=2E=A0 =3C/div=3E=3Cdiv =3E=3Cbr/=3E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3ETo further compli=
cate things the internal contacts on=A0my=A0=26quot=3Bup style=26quot=3B=
=A0distributor cap are pretty crappy and I have a brand new sideways sty=
le unit I picked up somewhere=2C but that means new leads=2E=A0 sigh=2E=2E=
=2E=2E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv =3E=3Cbr/=3E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3EArt=3C/div=3E=3Cdi=
v=3E=3Cspan=3E=3C/span=3E=A0=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3E=3Cspan=3EOn 10/15/18=2C =
=3Cb class=3D=22name=22=3ERandall =3C/b=3E=26lt=3Btr3driver=40ca=2Err=2E=
com=26gt=3B wrote=3A=3C/span=3E=3C/div=3E=3Cblockquote cite=3D=22mid=3A0=
A6A4333BE9D494A946515E692B8272A=40LAPTOPM3GPCDH8=22 class=3D=22iwcQuote=22=
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=3Cdiv class=3D=22mimepart text plain=22=3E40480D is an earlier model DM=
2P4 distributor=2E=A0 The information I have handy=3Cbr /=3Esays 40480F =
(which is functionally the same and still DM2P4=2C the letter is=3Cbr /=3E=
just a revision level) was used as late as 1959 TR3=2C some of which wer=
e sold=3Cbr /=3Ein 1960=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3EThat same database says ca=
rs built in 1960 got 40698A/B=2C which is still a=3Cbr /=3EDM2P4=2E=3Cbr=
 /=3E=3Cbr /=3EThe Moss catalog is certainly misleading=2C as they show =
a drawing of the=3Cbr /=3Eplate for a DM2P4=2C but the listing says it i=
s for a 25D4=2E=A0 They have no=3Cbr /=3Elisting for the earlier part (w=
hich I assume means it is not available)=2E=A0 I=3Cbr /=3Ebelieve the eq=
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listed as NLA=2E=A0 You might check with Revington=2C he seems to source=
 a lot of=3Cbr /=3Eparts the others can=27t find=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3EF=
aced with that same dilemma some years ago=2C I fabricated a mount for t=
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f pieces of bare=3Cbr /=3Efiberglass printed circuit board (from the scr=
ap bin=2C no copper plating)=2C=3Cbr /=3Ecarved with a Dremel to fit snu=
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/=3Etwo slightly larger to fit on either side of the notch=2E=A0 A littl=
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re to position the new piece=3Cbr /=3Ein the slot=2C as I lowered the ca=
p into place=2C but not too bad=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3ELater=2C I switche=
d to a (used) 25D4 distributor=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3E-- Randall=A0 =3Cbr=
 /=3E=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B -----Original Message-----=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Fro=
m=3A Triumphs =5B=3Ca href=3D=22mailto=3Atriumphs-bounces=40autox=2Eteam=
=2Enet=5D=22=3Emailto=3Atriumphs-bounces=40autox=2Eteam=2Enet=5D=3C/a=3E=
 On =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Behalf Of Art McEwen=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Sent=3A Su=
nday=2C October 14=2C 2018 7=3A19 PM=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B To=3A triumphs=40=
autox=2Eteam=2Enet=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Subject=3A =5BTR=5D Name that distr=
ibutor (TR3)=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B=A0 Hi=A0 =3Cbr /=3E=26=
gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B The backing plate on my TR3=27=
s distributor has a lot of play =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B in it so timing is pr=
oblematic=2E=A0 I ordered a new one from =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Moss however=
 that part (551-055) doesn=27t have the same tall =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B att=
achment for the low tension lead leading outside the cap =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=
=3B (see old unit on the left)=3A =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Ca href=3D=22http=
s=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG=5F20181014=5F1038057=22 =
target=3D=221=22=3Ehttps=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG=5F=
20181014=5F1038057=3C/a=3E=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B 63=2Ejpg=3Fdl=3D0=3Cbr /=3E=
=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B The distributor is stampe=
d 40480D (see below) which doesn=27t =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B seem to be withi=
n the range of their 25D model matching (if I =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B go down=
 the electronic replacement match-up rabbit hole)=2E =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =
=3Ca href=3D=22https=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG=5F201=
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g=3Fdl=3D0=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Do I have a non-standard=
 distributor=3F=A0 Any idea the right =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B part =23 for my=
 backing plate=3F=A0=A0 Or should I just bite the =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B bul=
let and go electronic=3F=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Thanks=2C=3C=
br /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Art =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B 1960 TR3A=A0 T=
S64989LO =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3E=3C/div=3E=3C/blockquote=
=3E
=3Cdiv =3E=3Cbr/=3E=3C/div=3E
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From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 12:19:01 -0500

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Explain all that to Moss, they have mis-informed me a couple times in the pa=
st and they refunded my return shipping.=20
Bill B

Sent from my Handspring Treo

On Oct 16, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Art McEwen <[email-masked]> wrote:

Well Moss has a lt lead that will work with that plate but when I go to swit=
ch the 1 month old points/condenser from the old plate to the new one I find=
 the new one doesn't have a pivot post for the points assembly  grr.

So now I have to pay shipping for new points ('cause they didn't tell me tha=
t when they explained the plate difference).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/locovgzt497v9zg/IMG_0782.JPG?dl=3D0

> On 10/15/18, "Art McEwen" <[email-masked]> wrote:
> Thanks Randall,
>=20
> Yes they sent me LU422318 according to the packaging.   It appears from br=
itishvacuumunit.com that that part along with LU54413549 (moss 153-640) migh=
t work, although it's not clear from any of the photos if that terminal conn=
ector is meant to fit *over* the fork of LU421078 or *instead* of the fork.=20=

>=20
> To further complicate things the internal contacts on my "up style" distri=
butor cap are pretty crappy and I have a brand new sideways style unit I pic=
ked up somewhere, but that means new leads.  sigh....
>> 40480D is an earlier model DM2P4 distributor.  The information I have han=
dy
>> says 40480F (which is functionally the same and still DM2P4, the letter i=
s
>> just a revision level) was used as late as 1959 TR3, some of which were s=
old
>> in 1960.
>>=20
>> That same database says cars built in 1960 got 40698A/B, which is still a=

>> listing for the earlier part (which I assume means it is not available). =
 I
>> believe the equivalent part number at TRF would be LU421078, which they h=
ave
>> listed as NLA.  You might check with Revington, he seems to source a lot o=
f
>> Faced with that same dilemma some years ago, I fabricated a mount for the=

>> fiberglass printed circuit board (from the scrap bin, no copper plating),=

>> IIRC I used 3 pieces of PC board, one smaller to fit inside the notch and=

>> two slightly larger to fit on either side of the notch.  A little extra w=
ork
>> to install the cap, as I had to hold the side wire to position the new pi=
ece
>> -- Randall =20
>> > From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On=20
>> > Behalf Of Art McEwen
>> >  Hi =20
>> > The backing plate on my TR3's distributor has a lot of play=20
>> > in it so timing is problematic.  I ordered a new one from=20
>> > Moss however that part (551-055) doesn't have the same tall=20
>> > attachment for the low tension lead leading outside the cap=20
>> > (see old unit on the left):=20
>> > 63.jpg?dl=3D0
>> > The distributor is stamped 40480D (see below) which doesn't=20
>> > seem to be within the range of their 25D model matching (if I=20
>> > go down the electronic replacement match-up rabbit hole).=20
>> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG_20181014_1047562
>> > 91.jpg?dl=3D0
>> >=20
>> > Do I have a non-standard distributor?  Any idea the right=20
>> > part # for my backing plate?   Or should I just bite the=20
>> > Art=20
>> > 1960 TR3A  TS64989LO=20

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Explain all that to Moss, they have mis-inf=
ormed me a couple times in the past and they refunded my return shipping.&nb=
sp;<div>Bill B<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=
=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Sent from my Handspring Treo<=
/span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Oct 16, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Art McEwen &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Well Moss has a lt lead that will work with t=
hat plate but when I go to switch the 1 month old points/condenser from the o=
ld plate to the new one I find the new one doesn't have a pivot post for the=
 points assembly&nbsp; grr.</div><div><br></div><div>So now I have to pay sh=
ipping for new points ('cause they didn't tell me that when they explained t=
he plate difference).</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.dropbo=
x.com/s/locovgzt497v9zg/IMG_0782.JPG?dl=3D0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/locov=
gzt497v9zg/IMG_0782.JPG?dl=3D0</a></div><div><br></div><br><span>On 10/15/18=
, <b class=3D"name">"Art McEwen" </b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:amcewen2@cogeco.=
ca">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote cite=3D"mid:7240883f=
[email-masked]" class=3D"iwcQuote" style=3D"border-left: 1px sol=
id #00F; padding-left: 13px; margin-left: 0;" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"mi=
mepart text html"><div>Thanks Randall,</div><div><br></div><div>Yes they sen=
t me&nbsp;LU422318 according to the packaging.&nbsp;&nbsp; It appears from <=
a href=3D"http://britishvacuumunit.com">britishvacuumunit.com</a> that that p=
art along with LU54413549 (moss 153-640) might work, although it's not clear=
 from any of the photos if that terminal connector is meant to fit *over* th=
e fork of LU421078 or *instead* of&nbsp;the fork.&nbsp; </div><div><br></div=
><div>To further complicate things the internal contacts on&nbsp;my&nbsp;"up=
 style"&nbsp;distributor cap are pretty crappy and I have a brand new sidewa=
ys style unit I picked up somewhere, but that means new leads.&nbsp; sigh...=
.</div><div><br></div><div>Art</div><div><span></span>&nbsp;</div><div><span=
>On 10/15/18, <b class=3D"name">Randall </b>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr3driver@=
ca.rr.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</span></div><blockquote cite=3D=
"mid:0A6A4333BE9D494A946515E692B8272A@LAPTOPM3GPCDH8" class=3D"iwcQuote" sty=
le=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 13px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #00f 1px solid" typ=
e=3D"cite">
<div class=3D"mimepart text plain">40480D is an earlier model DM2P4 distribu=
tor.&nbsp; The information I have handy<br>says 40480F (which is functionall=
y the same and still DM2P4, the letter is<br>just a revision level) was used=
 as late as 1959 TR3, some of which were sold<br>in 1960.<br><br>That same d=
atabase says cars built in 1960 got 40698A/B, which is still a<br>DM2P4.<br>=
<br>The Moss catalog is certainly misleading, as they show a drawing of the<=
br>plate for a DM2P4, but the listing says it is for a 25D4.&nbsp; They have=
 no<br>listing for the earlier part (which I assume means it is not availabl=
e).&nbsp; I<br>believe the equivalent part number at TRF would be LU421078, w=
hich they have<br>listed as NLA.&nbsp; You might check with Revington, he se=
ems to source a lot of<br>parts the others can't find.<br><br>Faced with tha=
t same dilemma some years ago, I fabricated a mount for the<br>low tension l=
ead that worked quite well.&nbsp; Just a stack of pieces of bare<br>fibergla=
ss printed circuit board (from the scrap bin, no copper plating),<br>carved w=
ith a Dremel to fit snug but not too tight in the slot in the<br>distributor=
 cap.&nbsp; A small bolt through the center linked the two wires.<br>IIRC I u=
sed 3 pieces of PC board, one smaller to fit inside the notch and<br>two sli=
ghtly larger to fit on either side of the notch.&nbsp; A little extra work<b=
r>to install the cap, as I had to hold the side wire to position the new pie=
ce<br>in the slot, as I lowered the cap into place, but not too bad.<br><br>=
Later, I switched to a (used) 25D4 distributor.<br><br>-- Randall&nbsp; <br>=
<br>&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>&gt; From: Triumphs [<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]]">mailto:[email-masked]]<=
/a> On <br>&gt; Behalf Of Art McEwen<br>&gt; Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 7=
:19 PM<br>&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triumphs@autox=
.team.net</a><br>&gt; Subject: [TR] Name that distributor (TR3)<br>&gt; <br>=
&gt;&nbsp; Hi&nbsp; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; The backing plate on my TR3's=
 distributor has a lot of play <br>&gt; in it so timing is problematic.&nbsp=
; I ordered a new one from <br>&gt; Moss however that part (551-055) doesn't=
 have the same tall <br>&gt; attachment for the low tension lead leading out=
side the cap <br>&gt; (see old unit on the left): <br>&gt; <a href=3D"https:=
//www.dropbox.com/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG_20181014_1038057" target=3D"1">https=
://www.dropbox.com/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG_20181014_1038057</a><br>&gt; 63.jpg=
?dl=3D0<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; The distributor is stamped 40480D (see bel=
ow) which doesn't <br>&gt; seem to be within the range of their 25D model ma=
tching (if I <br>&gt; go down the electronic replacement match-up rabbit hol=
e). <br>&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG_201810=
14_1047562" target=3D"1">https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG_20181=
014_1047562</a><br>&gt; 91.jpg?dl=3D0<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Do I have a non-stand=
ard distributor?&nbsp; Any idea the right <br>&gt; part # for my backing pla=
te?&nbsp;&nbsp; Or should I just bite the <br>&gt; bullet and go electronic?=
<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Thanks,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Art <br>&gt; 1960 TR3A&nbsp; TS64=
989LO <br>&gt; <br><br></div></blockquote>
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