Subject: Re: [TR] Will a 'out-of-spot' tappet necessarily be higher, like this?

From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 13:59:19 -0400

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On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM Rye Livingston <[email-masked]> wrote:

>
> Also, as someone else said, check to see if you have a local Triumph
> Club.  If you do, join it, and I'm sure there would be some members who
> would love to come over and help you out.  It's what we do!  :-)
>

Turns out Paul lives just about 3 miles from me.  If he doesn't get it
fiddled into place in the next few days, I'll have some time to go over and
see what I can do.

Jeff Scarbrough
Corrosion Acres, Ga.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon=
, Oct 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM Rye Livingston &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>=
<br></div><div>Also, as someone else said, check to see if you have a local=
 Triumph Club.=C2=A0 If you do, join it, and I&#39;m sure there would be so=
me members who would love to come over and help you out.=C2=A0 It&#39;s wha=
t we do! =C2=A0:-)</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Turns out Paul liv=
es just about 3 miles from me.=C2=A0 If he doesn&#39;t get it fiddled into =
place in the next few days, I&#39;ll have some time to go over and see what=
 I can do.</div><div><br></div><div>Jeff Scarbrough</div><div>Corrosion Acr=
es, Ga.=C2=A0</div></div></div>

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From: Paul Dorsey <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 14:45:10 -0400

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 Thanks Jeff, it=E2=80=99s great to know that I have such a depth of knowle=
dge
backing me up if I go wrong. I know you=E2=80=99re on the trip now so I mig=
ht
experiment on my own, I just don=E2=80=99t want to go wrong.

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:33 PM Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]> wrote:

> fiddled into place in the next few days, I'll have some time to go over a=
nd
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<div>=C2=A0Thanks Jeff, it=E2=80=99s great to know that I have such a depth=
 of knowledge backing me up if I go wrong. I know you=E2=80=99re on the tri=
p now so I might experiment on my own, I just don=E2=80=99t want to go wron=
g.=C2=A0</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, =
Oct 1, 2018 at 2:33 PM Jeff Scarbrough &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fishplate@gmai=
l.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM Rye Livingston &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ryel@=
mac.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex"><div><br></div><div>Also, as someone else said, check t=
o see if you have a local Triumph Club.=C2=A0 If you do, join it, and I&#39=
;m sure there would be some members who would love to come over and help yo=
u out.=C2=A0 It&#39;s what we do! =C2=A0:-)</div></blockquote><div><br></di=
v><div>Turns out Paul lives just about 3 miles from me.=C2=A0 If he doesn&#=
39;t get it fiddled into place in the next few days, I&#39;ll have some tim=
e to go over and see what I can do.</div><div><br></div><div>Jeff Scarbroug=
h</div><div>Corrosion Acres, Ga.=C2=A0</div></div></div>
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 16:46:25 -0400

Just don't force anything.  If you feel uncomfortable, step back and
recalculate.  I bet you have some other projects...

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:45 PM Paul Dorsey <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>  Thanks Jeff, it’s great to know that I have such a depth of knowledge backing me up if I go wrong. I know you’re on the trip now so I might experiment on my own, I just don’t want to go wrong.
>
>>> Also, as someone else said, check to see if you have a local Triumph Club.  If you do, join it, and I'm sure there would be some members who would love to come over and help you out.  It's what we do!  :-)
>>
>>
>> Turns out Paul lives just about 3 miles from me.  If he doesn't get it fiddled into place in the next few days, I'll have some time to go over and see what I can do.
>>
>> Jeff Scarbrough
>> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
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From: Paul Dorsey <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 16:48:43 -0400

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 Will do

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:46 PM Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]> wrote:

> >  Thanks Jeff, it=E2=80=99s great to know that I have such a depth of kn=
owledge
> backing me up if I go wrong. I know you=E2=80=99re on the trip now so I m=
ight
nd
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<div>=C2=A0Will do=C2=A0</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:46 PM Jeff Scarbrough &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex">Just don&#39;t force anything.=C2=A0 If you feel un=
comfortable, step back and<br>
recalculate.=C2=A0 I bet you have some other projects...<br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:45 PM Paul Dorsey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Thanks Jeff, it=E2=80=99s great to know that I have such a depth=
 of knowledge backing me up if I go wrong. I know you=E2=80=99re on the tri=
p now so I might experiment on my own, I just don=E2=80=99t want to go wron=
g.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:33 PM Jeff Scarbrough &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:f=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM Rye Livingston &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Also, as someone else said, check to see if you have a local T=
riumph Club.=C2=A0 If you do, join it, and I&#39;m sure there would be some=
 members who would love to come over and help you out.=C2=A0 It&#39;s what =
we do!=C2=A0 :-)<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Turns out Paul lives just about 3 miles from me.=C2=A0 If he doesn=
&#39;t get it fiddled into place in the next few days, I&#39;ll have some t=
ime to go over and see what I can do.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Jeff Scarbrough<br>
&gt;&gt; Corrosion Acres, Ga.<br>
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From: Paul Dorsey <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 19:41:46 -0400

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 That pushrod mysteriously went down I ldon=E2=80=99t know how it happened.=
   It
now seems at the right height.

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:48 PM Paul Dorsey <[email-masked]> wrote:

>> >  Thanks Jeff, it=E2=80=99s great to know that I have such a depth of k=
nowledge
>> backing me up if I go wrong. I know you=E2=80=99re on the trip now so I =
might
>> >> Turns out Paul lives just about 3 miles from me.  If he doesn't get i=
t
>> fiddled into place in the next few days, I'll have some time to go over =
and
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]

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<div><div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0That pushrod mysteriously went down I ldon=E2=
=80=99t know how it happened. =C2=A0 It now seems at the right height.=C2=
=A0</div></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon,=
 Oct 1, 2018 at 4:48 PM Paul Dorsey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
"><div>=C2=A0Will do=C2=A0</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di=
r=3D"ltr">On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:46 PM Jeff Scarbrough &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Just don&#39;t force anything.=
=C2=A0 If you feel uncomfortable, step back and<br>
recalculate.=C2=A0 I bet you have some other projects...<br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:45 PM Paul Dorsey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Thanks Jeff, it=E2=80=99s great to know that I have such a depth=
 of knowledge backing me up if I go wrong. I know you=E2=80=99re on the tri=
p now so I might experiment on my own, I just don=E2=80=99t want to go wron=
g.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:33 PM Jeff Scarbrough &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:f=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>

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From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 20:14:32 -0500

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Congratulations, the TR gods must be with you.   If they are all back to abo=
ut the same height you=E2=80=99re ready to put the rocker assembly back on a=
nd check all your clearances. =20
Bill

Sent from my Handspring Treo

On Oct 1, 2018, at 6:41 PM, Paul Dorsey <[email-masked]> wrote:

 That pushrod mysteriously went down I ldon=E2=80=99t know how it happened. =
  It now seems at the right height.=20

>  Will do=20
>=20
>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:46 PM Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
>>=20
>>=20
owledge backing me up if I go wrong. I know you=E2=80=99re on the trip now s=
o I might experiment on my own, I just don=E2=80=99t want to go wrong.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:33 PM Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:
>> >>> Also, as someone else said, check to see if you have a local Triumph C=
lub.  If you do, join it, and I'm sure there would be some members who would=
 love to come over and help you out.  It's what we do!  :-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Turns out Paul lives just about 3 miles from me.  If he doesn't get it=
 fiddled into place in the next few days, I'll have some time to go over and=
 see what I can do.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Congratulations, the TR gods must be with y=
ou. &nbsp; If they are all back to about the same height you=E2=80=99re read=
y to put the rocker assembly back on and check all your clearances. &nbsp;<d=
iv>Bill<br><div><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D=
"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Sent from my Handspring Treo</sp=
an></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Oct 1, 2018, at 6:41 PM, Paul Dorsey &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"auto">&nbsp;That pushrod mysterious=
ly went down I ldon=E2=80=99t know how it happened. &nbsp; It now seems at t=
he right height.&nbsp;</div></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:48 PM Paul Dorsey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div>&nbsp;Will do&nbsp;</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:46 PM Jeff Scarbrough &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Just don't force anythi=
ng.&nbsp; If you feel uncomfortable, step back and<br>
recalculate.&nbsp; I bet you have some other projects...<br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:45 PM Paul Dorsey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp; Thanks Jeff, it=E2=80=99s great to know that I have such a depth o=
f knowledge backing me up if I go wrong. I know you=E2=80=99re on the trip n=
ow so I might experiment on my own, I just don=E2=80=99t want to go wrong.<b=
r>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:33 PM Jeff Scarbrough &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fi=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM Rye Livingston &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Also, as someone else said, check to see if you have a local Tr=
iumph Club.&nbsp; If you do, join it, and I'm sure there would be some membe=
rs who would love to come over and help you out.&nbsp; It's what we do!&nbsp=
; :-)<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Turns out Paul lives just about 3 miles from me.&nbsp; If he doesn'=
t get it fiddled into place in the next few days, I'll have some time to go o=
ver and see what I can do.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Jeff Scarbrough<br>
&gt;&gt; Corrosion Acres, Ga.<br>
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From: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 12:57:27 -0400 (EDT)

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I'm wondering if a cylindrical magnet on an extendable rod (probably $4.99 at your local FLAPS) that fits through the head?  I've never tried it, mind you.  A brass or bronze rod to keep it in place as you dislodge the magnet?

> On October 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM Rye Livingston <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
>     You don't want to force anything, meaning don't try to tap it down into place.  
> 
>     As Bill said, the easiest is to pull the head.  Keep in mind if you do that you need to use a new head gasket when re-installing the head and go through proper torque procedures, all of which is easy to do, just make sure you do it.
> 
>     As I was in your situation once, I'd take more time, and maybe a lot more time, and take a flashlight and peak down the holes that have the tappets in place so you know what it looks like, and then look down the one you're dealing with, and with a long screwdriver try to coax that tappet back into position.  If it's got plenty of oil on it, once it's aligned it should sink down in place with little to no pushing from you.
> 
>     Good luck,
>     Rye Livingston
>     Activities Chairman
>     Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club
>     Celebrating our 60 Year Anniversary
>     1960 TR3A
>     PH: 530-FIND-RYE
> 
>     On Sep 29, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Paul Dorsey <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> 
>         > >         I received my new pushrod from Moss last night and was impressed, it looks the same length as stock, but was slightly heavier by weight.  Others had forewarned that it might be chinese, and it could still be, although I don't know what would ever tell me if that were an issue.
> > 
> >         Right now, my emphasis is on getting the thing running. something it hasn't done in years. I remember saying that I had seen one pushrod in particular had non-concentric circles appearing down the pushrod tubes  and I surmised that this must be what everyone informed me must be an out of spot tappet that I had been warned about. Trouble is: I forgot to write down which one of the eight pushrod tubes that I had seen it in.
> >         I also might have worked that tappet over and in-line with the tube such that it now has the proper concentric circles.  On thing I do know for sure, is that one particular tappet causes it's pushrod to set a couple of inches higher ( as shown in the pic).  How do I get that tappet down? I slightly hit it's pushrod with my palm, but it would not drop down.  I do have an extra pushrod if others think I ought to tap it down using a pushrod,  Heck, I proably could use the old bent pushrod which I have now replaced, to tap it in place.  I just don't want to attempt this unless others give me a green light.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         Thanks, Paul Dorsey  aka RUSTY ACRES
> > 
> > 
> >         Paul Dorsey <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] >
> > 
> >         1:32 PM (1 hour ago)
> > 
> >           	
> >         to me
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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From: Paul Dorsey <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 13:01:20 -0400

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I wonder if a magnet at the end of one of those wands would reposition it?
Is there any danger that something will topple or get misaligned?

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM Rye Livingston <[email-masked]> wrote:

> As Bill said, the easiest is to pull the head.  Keep in mind if you do
> that you need to use a new head gasket when re-installing the head and go
> through proper torque procedures, all of which is easy to do, just make
> sure you do it.
>
> As I was in your situation once, I'd take more time, and maybe a lot more
> time, and take a flashlight and peak down the holes that have the tappets
> in place so you know what it looks like, and then look down the one you're
> dealing with, and with a long screwdriver try to coax that tappet back into
> position.  If it's got plenty of oil on it, once it's aligned it should
> sink down in place with little to no pushing from you.
>
> I received my new pushrod from Moss last night and was impressed, it looks
> the same length as stock, but was slightly heavier by weight.  Others had
> forewarned that it might be chinese, and it could still be, although I
> don't know what would ever tell me if that were an issue.
>
> Right now, my emphasis is on getting the thing running. something it
> hasn't done in years. I remember saying that I had seen one pushrod in
> particular had non-concentric circles appearing down the pushrod tubes  and
> I surmised that this must be what everyone informed me must be an out of
> spot tappet that I had been warned about. Trouble is: I forgot to write
> down which one of the eight pushrod tubes that I had seen it in.
> I also might have worked that tappet over and in-line with the tube such
> that it now has the proper concentric circles.  On thing I do know for
> sure, is that one particular tappet causes it's pushrod to set a couple of
> inches higher ( as shown in the pic).  How do I get that tappet down? I
> slightly hit it's pushrod with my palm, but it would not drop down.  I do
> have an extra pushrod if others think I ought to tap it down using a
> pushrod,  Heck, I proably could use the old bent pushrod which I have now
> replaced, to tap it in place.  I just don't want to attempt this unless
> others give me a green light.
> Paul Dorsey <[email-masked]>
> 1:32 PM (1 hour ago)
>
> to me
>
>
>
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I wonder if a magnet at the end of one of those wands woul=
d reposition it?=C2=A0 Is there any danger that something will topple or ge=
t misaligned?=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On=
 Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM Rye Livingston &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac=
.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><=
div><div>You don&#39;t want to force anything, meaning=C2=A0don&#39;t try t=
o tap it down into place. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>As Bill said, the=
 easiest is to pull the head.=C2=A0 Keep in mind if you do that you need to=
 use a new head gasket when re-installing the head and go through proper to=
rque procedures, all of which is easy to do, just make sure you do it.</div=
><div><br></div><div>As I was in your situation once, I&#39;d take more tim=
e, and maybe a lot more time, and take a flashlight and peak down the holes=
 that have the tappets in place so you know what it looks like, and then lo=
ok down the one you&#39;re dealing with, and with a long screwdriver=C2=A0t=
ry to coax=C2=A0that tappet back into position.=C2=A0 If it&#39;s got plent=
y of oil on it, once it&#39;s aligned it should sink down in place with lit=
tle to no pushing from you.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, as someone else =
said, check to see if you have a local Triumph Club.=C2=A0 If you do, join =
it, and I&#39;m sure there would be some members who would love to come ove=
r and help you out.=C2=A0 It&#39;s what we do! =C2=A0:-)</div><div><br></di=
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es Chairman</span></div><div class=3D"m_-5429200401966217254x-apple-signatu=
re">Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club</div><div class=3D"m_-542920040196621=
7254x-apple-signature">Celebrating our 60 Year Anniversary</div><div class=
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br><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"m_-54292004019662=
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 heavier by weight.=C2=A0 Others had forewarned that it might be chinese, a=
nd it could still be, although I don&#39;t know what would ever tell me if =
that were an issue.<div><br></div><div>Right now, my emphasis is on getting=
 the thing running. something it hasn&#39;t done in years. I remember sayin=
g that I had seen one pushrod in particular had non-concentric circles appe=
aring down the pushrod tubes=C2=A0=C2=A0and I surmised that this must be wh=
at everyone informed me must be an out of spot tappet that I had been warne=
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tubes that I had seen it in.</div><div>I also might have worked that tappet=
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circles.=C2=A0 On thing I do know for sure, is that one particular tappet c=
auses it&#39;s pushrod to set a couple of inches higher ( as shown in the p=
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From: Paul Dorsey <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 13:06:04 -0400

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What's special about brass or bronze?  I know their softer, but, seems like
the coat hanger would be sufficient to hold it down.

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 1:01 PM Paul Dorsey <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I wonder if a magnet at the end of one of those wands would reposition
> it?  Is there any danger that something will topple or get misaligned?
>
>> I received my new pushrod from Moss last night and was impressed, it
>> looks the same length as stock, but was slightly heavier by weight.  Others
>> had forewarned that it might be chinese, and it could still be, although I

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<div dir=3D"ltr">What&#39;s special about brass or bronze?=C2=A0 I know the=
ir softer, but, seems like the coat hanger would be sufficient to hold it d=
own.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Oct 1, 20=
18 at 1:01 PM Paul Dorsey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dorpaul=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">I wonder if a magnet at the end of one of those wands would reposi=
tion it?=C2=A0 Is there any danger that something will topple or get misali=
gned?=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Oc=
t 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM Rye Livingston &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex"><div><div>You don&#39;t want to force anything, meaning=C2=A0don&#=
39;t try to tap it down into place. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>As Bill=
 said, the easiest is to pull the head.=C2=A0 Keep in mind if you do that y=
ou need to use a new head gasket when re-installing the head and go through=
 proper torque procedures, all of which is easy to do, just make sure you d=
o it.</div><div><br></div><div>As I was in your situation once, I&#39;d tak=
e more time, and maybe a lot more time, and take a flashlight and peak down=
 the holes that have the tappets in place so you know what it looks like, a=
nd then look down the one you&#39;re dealing with, and with a long screwdri=
ver=C2=A0try to coax=C2=A0that tappet back into position.=C2=A0 If it&#39;s=
 got plenty of oil on it, once it&#39;s aligned it should sink down in plac=
e with little to no pushing from you.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, as som=
eone else said, check to see if you have a local Triumph Club.=C2=A0 If you=
 do, join it, and I&#39;m sure there would be some members who would love t=
o come over and help you out.=C2=A0 It&#39;s what we do! =C2=A0:-)</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Good luck,</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"m_-2534400364=
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px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color=
:#ffffff;display:inline!important;float:none">Activities Chairman</span></d=
iv><div class=3D"m_-2534400364050603198m_-5429200401966217254x-apple-signat=
ure">Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club</div><div class=3D"m_-25344003640506=
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le-signature">1960 TR3A<br>PH: 530-FIND-RYE</div><div><br>On Sep 29, 2018, =
at 12:50 PM, Paul Dorsey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"m_-2534400364050603198m_-5429200401966217254ms=
g-quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">I received my new pushrod from Moss last night an=
d was impressed, it looks the same length as stock, but was slightly heavie=
r by weight.=C2=A0 Others had forewarned that it might be chinese, and it c=
ould still be, although I don&#39;t know what would ever tell me if that we=
re an issue.<div><br></div><div>Right now, my emphasis is on getting the th=
ing running. something it hasn&#39;t done in years. I remember saying that =
I had seen one pushrod in particular had non-concentric circles appearing d=
own the pushrod tubes=C2=A0=C2=A0and I surmised that this must be what ever=
yone informed me must be an out of spot tappet that I had been warned about=
. Trouble is: I forgot to write down which one of the eight pushrod tubes t=
hat I had seen it in.</div><div>I also might have worked that tappet over a=
nd in-line with the tube such that it now has the proper concentric circles=
.=C2=A0 On thing I do know for sure, is that one particular tappet causes i=
t&#39;s pushrod to set a couple of inches higher ( as shown in the pic).=C2=
=A0 How do I get that tappet down? I slightly hit it&#39;s pushrod with my =
palm, but it would not drop down.=C2=A0 I do have an extra pushrod if other=
s think I ought to tap it down using a pushrod,=C2=A0 Heck, I proably could=
 use the old bent pushrod which I have now replaced, to tap it in place.=C2=
=A0 I just don&#39;t want to attempt this unless others give me a green lig=
ht.</div><div><div class=3D"m_-2534400364050603198m_-5429200401966217254gma=
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Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 13:46:52 -0400 (EDT)

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Surfeit of caution on my part, probably, since I am a clumsy oaf who would likely scratch the contact surface of the pushrod-to-tappet.  That and I don't know if the hardened part of the tappet is confined to the cam lob (flat) end. 

> On October 1, 2018 at 1:06 PM Paul Dorsey <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
>     What's special about brass or bronze?  I know their softer, but, seems like the coat hanger would be sufficient to hold it down.
> 
>     On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 1:01 PM Paul Dorsey < [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> 
>         > >         I wonder if a magnet at the end of one of those wands would reposition it?  Is there any danger that something will topple or get misaligned? 
> > 
> >         On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM Rye Livingston < [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> > 
> > >             On Sep 29, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Paul Dorsey < [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> > > 
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ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Surfeit of caution on my part, probably,=
 since I am a clumsy oaf who would likely scratch the contact surface of th=
e pushrod-to-tappet.&#160; That and I don&#39;t know if the hardened part o=
f the tappet is confined to the cam lob (flat) end.&#160; <br></p><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite">On October 1, 2018 at 1:06 PM Paul Dorsey &#60;dorpaul1@gm=
ail.com&#62; wrote: <br> <br><div dir=3D"ltr">What&#39;s special about bras=
s or bronze?&#160; I know their softer, but, seems like the coat hanger wou=
ld be sufficient to hold it down.</div><br><div class=3D"ox-a47114b4d2-gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 1:01 PM Paul Dorsey &#60; =
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&#62; wrote: <b=
r></div><blockquote><div dir=3D"ltr">I wonder if a magnet at the end of one=
 of those wands would reposition it?&#160; Is there any danger that somethi=
ng will topple or get misaligned?&#160;</div><br><div class=3D"ox-a47114b4d=
2-gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM Rye Livings=
ton &#60; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener=
">[email-masked]</a>&#62; wrote: <br></div><blockquote><div><div>You don&#39;=
t want to force anything, meaning&#160;don&#39;t try to tap it down into pl=
ace. &#160;</div><div><br></div><div>As Bill said, the easiest is to pull t=
he head.&#160; Keep in mind if you do that you need to use a new head gaske=
t when re-installing the head and go through proper torque procedures, all =
of which is easy to do, just make sure you do it.</div><div><br></div><div>=
As I was in your situation once, I&#39;d take more time, and maybe a lot mo=
re time, and take a flashlight and peak down the holes that have the tappet=
s in place so you know what it looks like, and then look down the one you&#=
39;re dealing with, and with a long screwdriver&#160;try to coax&#160;that =
tappet back into position.&#160; If it&#39;s got plenty of oil on it, once =
it&#39;s aligned it should sink down in place with little to no pushing fro=
m you.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, as someone else said, check to see if=
 you have a local Triumph Club.&#160; If you do, join it, and I&#39;m sure =
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160; It&#39;s what we do! &#160;:-)</div><div><br></div><div>Good luck,</di=
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uld still be, although I don&#39;t know what would ever tell me if that wer=
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0; How do I get that tappet down? I slightly hit it&#39;s pushrod with my p=
alm, but it would not drop down.&#160; I do have an extra pushrod if others=
 think I ought to tap it down using a pushrod,&#160; Heck, I proably could =
use the old bent pushrod which I have now replaced, to tap it in place.&#16=
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From: "Randall" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 23:17:00 -0400

I've not tried it, but my guess is that a magnet would make the task much
harder, rather than easier.  The tappet has to be positioned "just so" to
drop into it's bore (as noted, you cannot force it, it will fall of it's own
weight once it gets lined up).  But unless you are very lucky, a magnet is
going to want to grab it and tip it at an angle.  The hole in the center of
the tappet does not have a flat bottom.

I did it using just the pushrod as a tool, to scoot the tappet around until
it lined up and fell in.  But of course you can't see what is going on, so
it's all by touch, intuition and guesswork.  I doubt seriously I could do it
again today.

Sorry, Paul, I didn't understand your question about brass or bronze.  They
certainly have their uses (non magnetic, non marring, rust resistant, softer
than steel, etc) but I see no particular advantage here.

A bent coat hanger seems less than ideal though, because it is so springy.
Hard to move the tappet by just a thousandth or two, since first the coat
hanger will bend and then, when enough force is supplied, it will fling the
tappet to the other side of the cavity.

-- Randall

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From: Paul Dorsey <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 06:58:42 -0400

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Thanks  for such a great answer. It did accidentally  line up and go in.
The triumph gods We=E2=80=99re looking down on me favorably, as someone sai=
d.

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 11:17 PM Randall <[email-masked]> wrote:

> weight once it gets lined up).  But unless you are very lucky, a magnet i=
s
> going to want to grab it and tip it at an angle.  The hole in the center =
of
> I did it using just the pushrod as a tool, to scoot the tappet around unt=
il
> it lined up and fell in.  But of course you can't see what is going on, s=
o
> Sorry, Paul, I didn't understand your question about brass or bronze.  Th=
ey
> A bent coat hanger seems less than ideal though, because it is so springy=
.
> hanger will bend and then, when enough force is supplied, it will fling t=
he
> tappet to the other side of the cavity.

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<div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks =C2=A0for such a great answer. It did acciden=
tally =C2=A0line up and go in. The triumph gods We=E2=80=99re looking down =
on me favorably, as someone said.</div></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 11:17 PM Randall &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I&#39;ve not tried it, but my guess is that=
 a magnet would make the task much<br>
harder, rather than easier.=C2=A0 The tappet has to be positioned &quot;jus=
t so&quot; to<br>
drop into it&#39;s bore (as noted, you cannot force it, it will fall of it&=
#39;s own<br>
weight once it gets lined up).=C2=A0 But unless you are very lucky, a magne=
t is<br>
going to want to grab it and tip it at an angle.=C2=A0 The hole in the cent=
er of<br>
the tappet does not have a flat bottom.<br>
<br>
I did it using just the pushrod as a tool, to scoot the tappet around until=
<br>
it lined up and fell in.=C2=A0 But of course you can&#39;t see what is goin=
g on, so<br>
it&#39;s all by touch, intuition and guesswork.=C2=A0 I doubt seriously I c=
ould do it<br>
again today.<br>
<br>
Sorry, Paul, I didn&#39;t understand your question about brass or bronze.=
=C2=A0 They<br>
certainly have their uses (non magnetic, non marring, rust resistant, softe=
r<br>
than steel, etc) but I see no particular advantage here.<br>
<br>
A bent coat hanger seems less than ideal though, because it is so springy.<=
br>
Hard to move the tappet by just a thousandth or two, since first the coat<b=
r>
hanger will bend and then, when enough force is supplied, it will fling the=
<br>
tappet to the other side of the cavity.<br>
<br>
-- Randall=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
</blockquote></div></div>

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