Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] sobering story - last point

From: Tom Walling <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:25:37 -0400 (EDT)

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Errr, OK, but aren't the northern suburbs of Cleveland somewhere under Lake=
 Erie?

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> On October 21, 2018 at 8:43 AM Andrew Uprichard via 6pack <[email-masked]=
am.net> wrote:
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>     And for the many people who asked =E2=80=93 stay away from rusty, ben=
t cars being sold from the northern suburbs of Cleveland, OH.
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>     From: Andrew Uprichard [mailto:[email-masked]]
>     Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 8:36 AM
>     To: [email-masked]'
>     Subject: sobering story
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>     Thank you so much for the feedback, both individualized and shared wi=
th the list.  Several of you have had similar bad experiences, some shared =
the fact that it is really, really hard to forgive someone you are mad with=
, and some spelled out in great detail how I could approach the situation f=
rom a legal standpoint.  Thank you all.
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>     I have learned a lot:
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>     1.     Don=E2=80=99t be so trustworthy
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>     2.     eBay has its flaws
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>     3.     Get someone locally to go look at a car before bidding or payi=
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>     4.     This list has a lot of really great people
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>     Andrew Uprichard
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>     Older and wiser J
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serif; font-size: 12pt;">Errr, OK, but aren&#39;t the northern suburbs of C=
leveland somewhere <em>under</em> Lake Erie?</p><div class=3D"io-ox-signatu=
re">&#160;<br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite">On October 21, 2018 at 8:43 A=
M Andrew Uprichard via 6pack &#60;[email-masked]&#62; wrote: <br> <br=
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mal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman','serif'; color: #1f497d;=
">And for the many people who asked &#8211; stay away from rusty, bent cars=
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n great detail how I could approach the situation from a legal standpoint.&=
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Andrew why are you holding back on the persons name and eBay handle? Many ha=
ve asked and you are being evasive about it.

Sent from my Commodore 64

> On Oct 21, 2018, at 6:43 AM, Andrew Uprichard <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
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> And for the many people who asked =E2=80=93 stay away from rusty, bent car=
s being sold from the northern suburbs of Cleveland, OH.
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> From: Andrew Uprichard [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
> Thank you so much for the feedback, both individualized and shared with th=
e list.  Several of you have had similar bad experiences, some shared the fa=
ct that it is really, really hard to forgive someone you are mad with, and s=
ome spelled out in great detail how I could approach the situation from a le=
gal standpoint.  Thank you all.
> 3.     Get someone locally to go look at a car before bidding or paying
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 persons name and eBay handle? Many have asked and you are being evasive abo=
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<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Th=
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st.&nbsp; Several of you have had similar bad experiences, some shared the f=
act that it is really, really hard to forgive someone you are mad with, and s=
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From: "Andrew Uprichard" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:03:41 -0400

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Not being evasive =E2=80=93 I am over the guy (the point of my story was =
more about eBay than the seller =E2=80=93 and eBay has again refused to =
post my feedback) and have put it down to experience.  I appreciate all =
the suggestions, but harassing him or paying him a visit isn=E2=80=99t =
going to help. Time to move on.

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The only point of sharing any info would be to fellow TR owners to steer =
well clear of the guy.  So avoid a guy called Davis who lives in =
Kirtland Hills, OH.

=20

Andrew

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From: Levilevi [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 10:32 AM
To: Andrew Uprichard
Cc: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] sobering story - last point

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Andrew why are you holding back on the persons name and eBay handle? =
Many have asked and you are being evasive about it.

On Oct 21, 2018, at 6:43 AM, Andrew Uprichard <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

And for the many people who asked =E2=80=93 stay away from rusty, bent =
cars being sold from the northern suburbs of Cleveland, OH.

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Thank you so much for the feedback, both individualized and shared with =
the list.  Several of you have had similar bad experiences, some shared =
the fact that it is really, really hard to forgive someone you are mad =
with, and some spelled out in great detail how I could approach the =
situation from a legal standpoint.  Thank you all.

=20

I have learned a lot:

2.       eBay has its flaws

3.       Get someone locally to go look at a car before bidding or =
paying

=20

Andrew Uprichard

Older and wiser J

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Not being =
evasive =E2=80=93 I am over the guy (the point of my story was more =
about eBay than the seller =E2=80=93 and eBay has again refused to post =
my feedback) and have put it down to experience.=C2=A0 I appreciate all =
the suggestions, but harassing him or paying him a visit isn=E2=80=99t =
going to help. Time to move on.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>The only point of sharing any info would =
be to fellow TR owners to steer well clear of the guy.=C2=A0 So avoid a =
guy called Davis who lives in Kirtland Hills, =
OH.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Levilevi [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October =
22, 2018 10:32 AM<br><b>To:</b> Andrew Uprichard<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]; [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[TR] sobering story - last point<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Andrew =
why are you holding back on the persons name and eBay handle? Many have =
asked and you are being evasive about it.<br><br>Sent from my Commodore =
64<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Oct 21, 2018, at 6:43 AM, Andrew =
Uprichard &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>And for the many people who asked =
=E2=80=93 stay away from rusty, bent cars being sold from the northern =
suburbs of Cleveland, OH.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Andrew Uprichard [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]<=
/a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 21, 2018 8:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> '<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>'<br><=
b>Subject:</b> sobering story</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Thank you so much for =
the feedback, both individualized and shared with the list.&nbsp; =
Several of you have had similar bad experiences, some shared the fact =
that it is really, really hard to forgive someone you are mad with, and =
some spelled out in great detail how I could approach the situation from =
a legal standpoint.&nbsp; Thank you all.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>I have learned a =
lot:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if =
!supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>Don=E2=80=99t be so trustworthy</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>eBay has its flaws</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>Get someone locally to go look at a car before bidding =
or paying</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if =
!supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>This list has a lot of really great =
people</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Andrew =
Uprichard</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Older and wiser =
</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:Wingdings'>J</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote=
><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> =
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From: Bud Rolofson <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:02:55 -0600

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Thanks Andrew for sharing.=20

We all want to steer clear of dishonest sellers, but specifics are =
important. There could be many honest sellers in the Cleveland area so a =
broad brush description condemns unintended innocents.

I thought the story was out on eBay and their false promises. They =
screwed me twice already for the sake of the all mighty dollar.

If possible it=E2=80=99s best to use an escrow company, when buying a =
car sight unseen, that holds the money until both parties are happy. But =
maybe that=E2=80=99s not possible on eBay.

Bud

> On Oct 22, 2018, at 9:03 AM, Andrew Uprichard =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> The only point of sharing any info would be to fellow TR owners to =
steer well clear of the guy.  So avoid a guy called Davis who lives in =
Kirtland Hills, OH.

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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Thanks Andrew for sharing.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">We all want to steer clear of dishonest =
sellers, but specifics are important. There could be many honest sellers =
in the Cleveland area so a broad brush description condemns unintended =
innocents.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I =
thought the story was out on eBay and their false promises. They screwed =
me twice already for the sake of the all mighty dollar.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">If possible it=E2=80=99s =
best to use an escrow company, when buying a car sight unseen, that =
holds the money until both parties are happy. But maybe that=E2=80=99s =
not possible on eBay.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Bud</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Oct 22, 2018, at 9:03 AM, =
Andrew Uprichard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span style=3D"color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: =
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auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline =
!important; float: none;" class=3D"">The only point of sharing any info =
would be to fellow TR owners to steer well clear of the guy.&nbsp; So =
avoid a guy called Davis who lives in Kirtland Hills, =
OH.</span></div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""></div></body></html>=

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From: Geo Hahn <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:54:46 -0700

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On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:23 AM Andrew Uprichard <[email-masked]>
wrote:

... fellow TR owners to steer well clear of the guy.  So avoid a guy called
> Davis who lives in Kirtland Hills, OH.
>

If this is the seller I think it is -- an eBay seller ID ending in "...26"
-- it appears that the usual owner of that ID sells out of Bryn Mawr, PA
and items offered look like ladies stuff on most of the listings.  Only a
TR and a 2-wheel Triumph show up as being in Ohio.  Something odd going on,
possibly someone 'borrowing' a family or friend's eBay ID to sell a couple
of vehicles.

Geo

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Oct 22=
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ard.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
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mily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif"> fellow TR owners to steer well cle=
ar of the guy.=C2=A0 So avoid a guy called Davis who lives in Kirtland Hill=
s, OH.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If this is th=
e seller I think it is -- an eBay seller ID ending in &quot;...26&quot; -- =
it appears that the usual owner of that ID sells out o<font color=3D"#00000=
0">f=C2=A0<span style=3D"background-color:rgb(248,248,248);font-family:&quo=
t;Helvetica neue&quot;,Helvetica,Verdana,sans-serif">Bryn Mawr, PA and item=
s offered look like ladies stuff on most of the listings.=C2=A0 Only a TR a=
nd a 2-wheel Triumph show up as being in Ohio.=C2=A0 Something odd going on=
, possibly someone &#39;borrowing&#39; a family or friend&#39;s eBay ID to =
sell a couple of vehicles.</span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#000000">=
<span style=3D"background-color:rgb(248,248,248);font-family:&quot;Helvetic=
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Escrow certainly used to be possible on eBay, I used it to buy a Judson sup=
ercharger=2E But eBay wasn't really involved, it was an agreement between m=
e and the seller (made before I won the auction)=2E

But, I'm guessing a dishonest seller would find some excuse why escrow was=
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Escrow certainly used to be possible on eBay, I used it to buy a Judson sup=
ercharger=2E But eBay wasn't really involved, it was an agreement between m=
e and the seller (made before I won the auction)=2E<br><br>But, I'm guessin=
g a dishonest seller would find some excuse why escrow was not possible=2E<=
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