Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 low tension wire

From: anabil007 <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 10:36:55 -0700

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If you can fabricate a zero resistance wire you could sell the patent and=20=

make a fortune =F0=9F=91=8F

Bill Pugh
Wallace, CA

> On Oct 13, 2018, at 9:47 AM, Creig Houghtaling <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> Question:  Is the low tension wire from the coil to distributor something s=
pecial?  Triumph TR6 with points.  Is it a resistor wire or something?  Or c=
an I fabricate a wire without resistance and use that?
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> Thanks, Creig
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> Creig Houghtaling
> St. Louis, MO
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Question:&nbsp; Is the low tension wire from the coil to distributor somethi=
ng special?&nbsp; Triumph TR6 with points.&nbsp; Is it a resistor wire or so=
mething?&nbsp; Or can I fabricate a wire without resistance and use that?</d=
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Thanks, Creig</div>
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Creig Houghtaling</div>
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From: Randall <[email-masked]> LIrf3mClediaDqq0eY/FyPG/WfGU1Cu5xP/6HARK/I6d2nuhIibl1mdck/3w4onX3x2DGlkQavZX1A6hplXpxxan+T7yD6SzJG8=
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Nope, ordinary wire will do fine=2E
-- Randall

On 13 October 2018 11:47:17 GMT-05:00, Creig Houghtaling <creig555@live=2E=
com> wrote:
>Question:  Is the low tension wire from the coil to distributor
>something special?  Triumph TR6 with points=2E  Is it a resistor wire or
>something?  Or can I fabricate a wire without resistance and use that?
>
>Thanks, Creig
>
>Creig Houghtaling
>St=2E Louis, MO

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Question:&nbsp; Is the low tension wire from the coil to distributor somet=
hing special?&nbsp; Triumph TR6 with points=2E&nbsp; Is it a resistor wire =
or something?&nbsp; Or can I fabricate a wire without resistance and use th=
at?</div>
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Thanks, Creig</div>
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Creig Houghtaling</div>
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From: Creig Houghtaling <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 18:23:59 +0000

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From: Creig Houghtaling <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 18:27:54 +0000

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Thanks so much!
________________________________
From: Randall <[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 12:46 PM
To: [email-masked]; Creig Houghtaling; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 low tension wire

Nope, ordinary wire will do fine.
-- Randall

On 13 October 2018 11:47:17 GMT-05:00, Creig Houghtaling <[email-masked]=
> wrote:
Question:  Is the low tension wire from the coil to distributor something s=
pecial?  Triumph TR6 with points.  Is it a resistor wire or something?  Or =
can I fabricate a wire without resistance and use that?

Thanks, Creig

Creig Houghtaling
St. Louis, MO

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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 13, 2018 12:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]; Creig Houghtaling; [email-masked].=
net<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Nope, ordinary wire will do fine.<br>
-- Randall<br>
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oughtaling &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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Question:&nbsp; Is the low tension wire from the coil to distributor someth=
ing special?&nbsp; Triumph TR6 with points.&nbsp; Is it a resistor wire or =
something?&nbsp; Or can I fabricate a wire without resistance and use that?=
</div>
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<br>
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<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
Thanks, Creig</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
<br>
</div>
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Creig Houghtaling</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
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St. Louis, MO</div>
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From: Stan Foster <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 19:37:20 +0000

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The later TR6's have a 6v coil that gets a full 12v supply during cranking =
then 6v during normal running. The 6v is via a resistance wire. You have th=
e option of fitting a 12v coil and just using a fixed 12v supply. Easy to d=
o on the 74's, just move a wire from the relay to the fuse box. On  the 73 =
you need to add a new wire from the fuse box to the coil.

Stan
________________________________
From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> on behalf of Creig Houghta=
ling <[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 12:47:17 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] TR6 low tension wire

Thanks, Creig

Creig Houghtaling
St. Louis, MO

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The later TR6's have a 6v coil that gets a full 12v supply during cranking =
then 6v during normal running. The 6v is via a resistance wire. You have th=
e option of fitting a 12v coil and just using a fixed 12v supply. Easy to d=
o on the 74's, just move a wire
 from the relay to the fuse box. On&nbsp; the 73 you need to add a new wire=
 from the fuse box to the coil.<br>
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</div>
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sans-serif; font-size:11pt; color:black">
Stan</div>
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lor=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;triumphs=
[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Creig Houghtaling &lt;creig555@liv=
e.com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 13, 2018 12:47:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] TR6 low tension wire</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
Question:&nbsp; Is the low tension wire from the coil to distributor someth=
ing special?&nbsp; Triumph TR6 with points.&nbsp; Is it a resistor wire or =
something?&nbsp; Or can I fabricate a wire without resistance and use that?=
</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
Thanks, Creig</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
Creig Houghtaling</div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
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St. Louis, MO</div>
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 07:29:22 -0400

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On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 9:40 AM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Sure, it's easy to fabricate a zero resistance wire.  At least within the
> tolerance of the $10 DVM's H-F sells.  ;-)
>

If you don't have a drawer full of those that you got for free, you aren't
doing it right.

>
> But seriously, through 72 the TR6 has a 12 Volt coil (internally
> ballasted) and there is no intentional resistance in the coil wiring.  From
> 73 onwards the used a 6V coil with a ballast wire,  But it is not the wire
> between the coil and distributor so in either case a plain copper wire is
> used.
>
>
It took me a long time to wrap my head around the way that system actually
works.  I finally got it, but I've still never actually seen the ballast
wire.  Back in the day, I sold plenty of ceramic resistors for Chryslers,
but I assume the wire is buried in the harness somewhere?

Jeff Scarbrough
Corrosion Acres, Ga.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun=
, Oct 14, 2018 at 9:40 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs=
.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex"><font color=3D"black" size=3D"3" face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"=
<div> <font size=3D"3">Sure, it&#39;s easy to fabricate a zero resistance w=
ire.=C2=A0 At least within the tolerance of the $10 DVM&#39;s H-F sells.=C2=
=A0 ;-)</font></div></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If you don&#39;=
t have a drawer full of those that you got for free, you aren&#39;t doing i=
t right.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=
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ns-serif">

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">But seriously, through 72 the TR6 has a 12 Volt coil =
(internally ballasted) and there is no intentional resistance in the coil w=
iring.=C2=A0 From 73 onwards the used a 6V coil with a ballast wire,=C2=A0 =
But it is not the wire between the coil and distributor so in either case a=
 plain copper wire is used.</font></div></font><br></blockquote><div><br></=
div><div>It took me a long time to wrap my head around the way that system =
actually works.=C2=A0 I finally got it, but I&#39;ve still never actually s=
een the ballast wire.=C2=A0 Back in the day, I sold plenty of ceramic resis=
tors for Chryslers, but I assume the wire is buried in the harness somewher=
e?</div><div><br></div><div>Jeff Scarbrough</div><div>Corrosion Acres, Ga.<=
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From: Creig Houghtaling <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 14:33:25 +0000

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I have a new 6V coil on my shelf.  Don't know where it came from.  It says =
on the printing on the side "6V NO EXTERNAL RESISTOR REQUIRED 904".  Haven'=
t used it because I never knew what it is for.

I do have a 74.  So it does have the resistor wire and the 12 volt wire off=
 the starter relay.  I was told by another individual that a 1.5 ohm coil i=
s to be used with resistance wire.  Or 3 ohm without the resistance wire.  =
Don't know if this 6V coil is anything useful or not.
________________________________
From: Stan Foster <[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 2:37 PM
To: [email-masked]; Creig Houghtaling
Subject: Re: TR6 low tension wire

Stan

Thanks, Creig

Creig Houghtaling
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I have a new 6V coil on my shelf.&nbsp; Don't know where it came from.&nbsp=
; It says on the printing on the side &quot;6V NO EXTERNAL RESISTOR REQUIRE=
D 904&quot;.&nbsp; Haven't used it because I never knew what it is for.&nbs=
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I do have a 74.&nbsp; So it does have the resistor wire and the 12 volt wir=
e off the starter relay.&nbsp; I was told by another individual that a 1.5 =
ohm coil is to be used with resistance wire.&nbsp; Or 3 ohm without the res=
istance wire.&nbsp; Don't know if this 6V coil is anything
 useful or not.</div>
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f; font-size: 12pt;">
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ri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Stan Foster &lt;stan@=
redtr6.com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 13, 2018 2:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]; Creig Houghtaling<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: TR6 low tension wire</font>
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The later TR6's have a 6v coil that gets a full 12v supply during cranking =
then 6v during normal running. The 6v is via a resistance wire. You have th=
e option of fitting a 12v coil and just using a fixed 12v supply. Easy to d=
o on the 74's, just move a wire
 from the relay to the fuse box. On&nbsp; the 73 you need to add a new wire=
 from the fuse box to the coil.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr; margin:0; padding:0; font-family:sans-serif; f=
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[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Creig Houghtaling &lt;creig555@l=
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 13, 2018 12:47:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] TR6 low tension wire</font>
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Question:&nbsp; Is the low tension wire from the coil to distributor someth=
ing special?&nbsp; Triumph TR6 with points.&nbsp; Is it a resistor wire or =
something?&nbsp; Or can I fabricate a wire without resistance and use that?=
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Thanks, Creig</div>
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Creig Houghtaling</div>
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St. Louis, MO</div>
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