Subject: Re: [TR] Pesky exhaust leak

From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 08:00:34 -0600

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Dave,
Sounds like you have a fun winter lined up. =20

You might consider changing over to DOT-5 brake fluid, no paint problems if y=
ou get any spillage/seepage. =20

If you smell like exhaust fumes, DON'T DRIVE IT CLOSED UP until to get that f=
ixed.  Interesting method to check, I just get under the car and listen. =20=

The O/D will be like having a whole new car!

Enjoy,
Bill B

Sent from my Altair 8800

On Nov 29, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Dave Connitt <[email-masked]> wrote:

I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving last week. I haven=E2=80=99t had a c=
hance to post much to the list but thought I would pass this on.
I have been enjoying my TR4A quite a bit this last driving season but am now=
 faced with about one more decent weekend until the dreaded white stuff star=
ts showing up. At that point, I can start doing some maintenance on a few th=
ings I have come across.
One issue is that last year, the plastic cap on my clutch master cylinder sp=
lit, spilling dot3 brake fluid all over the master cylinder mounting bracket=
 and the top of the firewall where it sits. I have all the paint but just co=
uldn=E2=80=99t bring myself to fix it while the weather was nice.
The second issue is something I just noticed since I have been driving aroun=
d with the top up. I have an exhaust leak somewhere as I smell like a tailpi=
pe after about 30 minutes of driving with the top up. I have a stainless ste=
el exhaust with a 4 into 1 header terminating into dual exhaust pipes. I hav=
e been trying to figure out a way to find the leak with the car on the groun=
d but that is hopeless. I did see something on YouTube though that I am goin=
g to try. This guy used his shop vac with the hose plugged into the exhaust i=
nstead of the suction end by connecting the hose to his tail pipe, turning o=
n the shop vac and then sprayed soapy water at each joint until he found the=
 leak. I guess I will have to get the car up on jack stands to do it but it s=
hould work.
Finally, I bought a combination water temp./oil pressure gauge that fits int=
o the dash to replace my crappy temperature guage with the idea of using the=
 empty hole in the dash to add a oil temperature gauge. I have an aluminum s=
ump which has a bung for a sensor but the hole is just a tiny bit too small t=
o get the sender into the sump so I will have to remove the sump, drill out t=
he hole a bit and re-install it.
If I get all that done this winter it would be awesome.
Oh, and I found a rebuilt A-type overdrive that I will be picking up sometim=
e around February.
Sounds like a busy winter for Dave.
=20

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hanging over to DOT-5 brake fluid, no paint problems if you get any spillage=
/seepage. &nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"Ap=
pleMailSignature">If you smell like exhaust fumes, DON'T DRIVE IT CLOSED UP u=
ntil to get that fixed. &nbsp;Interesting method to check, I just get under t=
he car and listen. &nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div=
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his last driving season but am now faced with about one more decent weekend u=
ntil the dreaded white stuff starts showing up. At that point, I can start d=
oing some maintenance on a few things I have come across.<o:p></o:p></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">One issue is that last year, the plastic cap on my clutch=
 master cylinder split, spilling dot3 brake fluid all over the master cylind=
er mounting bracket and the top of the firewall where it sits. I have all th=
e paint but just couldn=E2=80=99t bring myself to fix it while the weather w=
as nice. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The second issue is something=
 I just noticed since I have been driving around with the top up. I have an e=
xhaust leak somewhere as I smell like a tailpipe after about 30 minutes of d=
riving with the top up. I have a stainless steel exhaust with a 4 into 1 hea=
der terminating into dual exhaust pipes. I have been trying to figure out a w=
ay to find the leak with the car on the ground but that is hopeless. I did s=
ee something on YouTube though that I am going to try. This guy used his sho=
p vac with the hose plugged into the exhaust instead of the suction end by c=
onnecting the hose to his tail pipe, turning on the shop vac and then spraye=
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et the car up on jack stands to do it but it should work.<o:p></o:p></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">Finally, I bought a combination water temp./oil pressure g=
auge that fits into the dash to replace my crappy temperature guage with the=
 idea of using the empty hole in the dash to add a oil temperature gauge. I h=
ave an aluminum sump which has a bung for a sensor but the hole is just a ti=
ny bit too small to get the sender into the sump so I will have to remove th=
e sump, drill out the hole a bit and re-install it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D=
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p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Oh, and I found a rebuilt A-type overdrive that=
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From: Brian Thomas <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 21:14:05 +0000

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Hi Dave,

Our 67 TR4A has a similar stainless exhaust system purchased about 1995 fro=
m TRF.    Various attempts to solve leakage problems over the years include=
d re-doing the weld around the single pipe that enters the front muffler an=
d applying muffler cement around the joints of the two exit pipes.  Neither=
 fix lasted very long and then I realized the system had a lifetime guarant=
ee.  Talked to TRF and they took it back and replaced it.  No problems sinc=
e!

Interestingly, when I took the muffler off,  the problem became obvious as =
the weld on the front pipe did not go all the way around and a hole existed=
 at the top.  I suspect the fixes were done with the muffler in place so th=
e problem was less than obvious.

Here's a pic showing the incomplete weld and hole:

Cheers,

Brian
_______________________________________________________________________
   Brian Thomas                           E-mail:   [email-masked]<mail=
to:[email-masked]>
   92 Wyona Lane, R R 1              Phone:   613-385-1947
   Wolfe Island,  Ontario                Toys:   54 TR2,  56 TR3,  67 TR4A,=
  01 XKR,
   CANADA   K0H 2Y0                                 75 John Deere 920

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;=
;color:#0070C0">Hi Dave,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;=
;color:#0070C0"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;=
;color:#0070C0">Our 67 TR4A has a similar stainless exhaust system purchase=
d about 1995 from TRF.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;Various attempts to solve leakage =
problems over the years included re-doing the weld around the
 single pipe that enters the front muffler and applying muffler cement arou=
nd the joints of the two exit pipes.&nbsp; Neither fix lasted very long and=
 then I realized the system had a lifetime guarantee.&nbsp; Talked to TRF a=
nd they took it back and replaced it.&nbsp; No
 problems since!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;=
;color:#0070C0"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;=
;color:#0070C0">Interestingly, when I took the muffler off,&nbsp; the probl=
em became obvious as the weld on the front pipe did not go all the way arou=
nd and a hole existed at the top.&nbsp; I suspect the fixes
 were done with the muffler in place so the problem was less than obvious.<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;=
;color:#0070C0"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;=
;color:#0070C0">Here&#8217;s a pic showing the incomplete weld and hole:<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;=
;color:#0070C0"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;=
;color:#0070C0">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><img width=3D"779" height=3D"804" id=3D"=
Picture_x0020_1" src=3D"cid:[email-masked]"><span style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#0070C0"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;=
;color:#0070C0"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;=
;color:#0070C0">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;=
;color:#0070C0"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;=
;color:#0070C0">Brian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#C0504D">__=
_____________________________________________________________________</span=
></b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#0070C0"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#0070C0">&nbsp=
;&nbsp; Brian Thomas&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:gray">E-mail:</span></i>=
</b><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#0070C0">&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#0070C0"><a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]"><span style=3D"color:blue">[email-masked]</span></=
a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#0070C0">&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;92 Wyona Lane, R R 1&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:gray">Phone:</span></i><=
/b><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#0070C0">&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#0070C0">613-385-1947<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#0070C0">&nbsp=
;&nbsp; Wolfe Island,&nbsp; Ontario &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:gray">Toys:</span></i></=
b><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#0070C0">&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#0070C0">54 TR2,&nbsp; 56 =
TR3,&nbsp; 67 TR4A,&nbsp; 01 XKR,&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#0070C0">&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;CANADA&nbsp;&nbsp; K0H 2Y0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp; 75 John Deere 920<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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