Subject: Re: [TR] Duh

From: "Randall" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 23:27:31 -0400

> The BIG question:  How much should it cost to replace
> the $59.00 fork or the stupid pin, knowing that the transmission
> has to come out and go back in?

FWIW, the TR3 flat rate manual gives 4.5 hours to R&R the gearbox, plus an
hour for the clutch once the gearbox is out (5.5 total).  TR6 should be
similar; although a TR3 doesn't have the dash support to remove, it also has
more bolts holding the seats in.  Say another hour for the dash support and
dealing with that pesky pin (I drilled the fork & shaft for an additional
1/4" grade 8 bolt to reinforce the pin).

IIRC my favorite mechanic charges $80/hr, so call it $520 for labor, plus
parts, tax, etc.  He will no doubt want to replace the clutch friction
plate, pressure plate & TOB but I would (did) put them back if they look OK.

Or hire a local teenager with a strong back and weak mind for $20/hr and do
it yourself.  The heavy lifting portion only takes a few minutes.  You might
even have some friends who would help for a few beers.

Randall

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I got a great paint job for $3,000, after I sent it back as the wings were a=
 different shade than the tub.  Of course it took over two years and he neve=
r re-fit any of the parts after doing the repair and paint work.  Live and l=
earn.=20

But the paint looked good!

Bill B

Sent from my UNIVAC

On Jul 31, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Geo Hahn <[email-masked]> wrote:

John -

Before you pull the gearbox - if your only symptom is 'won't go into gear' -=
- you may want to check how much movement you're getting at the slave cylind=
er.  If the slave & fork are moving =C2=BD" or a bit more then it may well b=
e a broken fork pin.  But if you are not seeing good movement then the probl=
em may lie elsewhere (and be easier to deal with).

As for paint -- $3,000 for a decent paint job would be cheap where I live.

Geo

> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:14 PM, John Summers <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
> If I only had a brain I wouldn't have sent three posts.=20
> The BIG question:  How much should it cost to replace=20
> has to come out and go back in?  Heck, today I was parked
> across the street from a body shop and could see a Porsche
> ready for paint.  I went in the office and asked for a price
> - not engine bay or other hidden places.  $3,000   !!!!
> As the man said, this isn't Maaco.  I replied,=20
> $3,000 will buy a lot of sandpaper and spray cans.
> Not really,,,,,I have a spray gun and compressor, AND=20
> two DVDs on how to do it.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>I got a great paint job for $3,000, af=
ter I sent it back as the wings were a different shade than the tub. &nbsp;O=
f course it took over two years and he never re-fit any of the parts after d=
oing the repair and paint work. &nbsp;Live and learn.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"=
AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">But the paint l=
ooked good!</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMa=
ilSignature">Bill B</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D=
"AppleMailSignature"><br>Sent from my&nbsp;<span style=3D"background-color: r=
gba(255, 255, 255, 0);">UNIVAC</span></div><div><br>On Jul 31, 2016, at 10:2=
8 AM, Geo Hahn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ahwahneetr@gmail.=
com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>John -</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Before you pull the gearbox - if your only symptom is 'won't g=
o into gear' -- you may want to check how much movement you're getting at th=
e slave cylinder.&nbsp; If the slave &amp; fork are moving =C2=BD" or a bit m=
ore then it may well be a broken fork pin.&nbsp; But if you are not seeing g=
ood movement then the problem may lie elsewhere (and be easier to deal with)=
.</div><div><br></div><div>As for paint -- $3,000 for a decent paint job wou=
ld be cheap where I live.</div><div><br></div><div>Geo</div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:14=
 PM, John Summers <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rivers2hills@yahoo=
.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:He=
lveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div dir=3D"ltr">If I only had a b=
rain I wouldn't have sent three posts.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">The BIG q=
uestion: &nbsp;How much should it cost to replace&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">the $59.00 fork or the stupid pin, knowing that the transmission</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">has to come out and go back in?&nbsp; Heck, today I was parked<=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">across the street from a body shop and could see a Por=
sche</div><div dir=3D"ltr">ready for paint.&nbsp; I went in the office and a=
sked for a price</div><div dir=3D"ltr">- not engine bay or other hidden plac=
es. &nbsp;$3,000 &nbsp; !!!!</div><div dir=3D"ltr">As the man said, this isn=
't Maaco.&nbsp; I replied,&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">$3,000 will buy a lot=
 of sandpaper and spray cans.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Not really,,,,,I have a s=
pray gun and compressor, AND&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">two DVDs on how to d=
o it.</div></div></div><br><br>
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From: "Andrew Uprichard" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 09:30:23 -0400

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Since paint is the first thing seen on a car, it always seemed =
counter-intuitive to me to spend all that money on the mechanical side =
and then skimp on the paint job.  I am just finishing a restoration on a =
=E2=80=9957 small-mouth where I did the rust repair (thankfully minimal =
as the car was out of CA) and lined up  the panels with really good =
gaps.  I welded in the new rockers and made sure everything was =
straight.  Then I took the car to a shop where they went through the =
process of hammering out as much metal as possible, covering the car =
with a skim of filler, sanding, filling the pinholes with putty, =
sanding, priming x3, sanding after each coat, sealing, base, clear, =
wheeling and buffing.  It took 8 weeks. The result is absolutely =
beautiful.

=20

I paid $6000 plus materials and felt it was a great deal.

=20

Andrew Uprichard

=20

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Geo =
Hahn
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 11:28 AM
To: John Summers
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Duh

=20

John -

=20

Before you pull the gearbox - if your only symptom is 'won't go into =
gear' -- you may want to check how much movement you're getting at the =
slave cylinder.  If the slave & fork are moving =C2=BD" or a bit more =
then it may well be a broken fork pin.  But if you are not seeing good =
movement then the problem may lie elsewhere (and be easier to deal =
with).

=20

As for paint -- $3,000 for a decent paint job would be cheap where I =
live.

=20

Geo

=20

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:14 PM, John Summers <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
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D'>Since paint is the first thing seen on a car, it always seemed =
counter-intuitive to me to spend all that money on the mechanical side =
and then skimp on the paint job.=C2=A0 I am just finishing a restoration =
on a =E2=80=9957 small-mouth where I did the rust repair (thankfully =
minimal as the car was out of CA) and lined up=C2=A0 the panels with =
really good gaps.=C2=A0 I welded in the new rockers and made sure =
everything was straight.=C2=A0 Then I took the car to a shop where they =
went through the process of hammering out as much metal as possible, =
covering the car with a skim of filler, sanding, filling the pinholes =
with putty, sanding, priming x3, sanding after each coat, sealing, base, =
clear, wheeling and buffing.=C2=A0 It took 8 weeks. The result is =
absolutely beautiful.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I paid $6000 plus materials and felt it was a great =
deal.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Geo Hahn<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 31, 2016 11:28 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> John Summers<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] =
Duh<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>John -<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Before you pull the gearbox - if your only symptom is =
'won't go into gear' -- you may want to check how much movement you're =
getting at the slave cylinder.&nbsp; If the slave &amp; fork are moving =
=C2=BD&quot; or a bit more then it may well be a broken fork pin.&nbsp; =
But if you are not seeing good movement then the problem may lie =
elsewhere (and be easier to deal with).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>As for paint -- $3,000 for a decent paint job would be =
cheap where I live.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Geo<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Thu, =
Jul 28, 2016 at 9:14 PM, John Summers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>If I only had =
a brain I wouldn't have sent three =
posts.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>The BIG =
question: &nbsp;How much should it cost to =
replace&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>the $59.00 =
fork or the stupid pin, knowing that the =
transmission<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>has to come =
out and go back in?&nbsp; Heck, today I was =
parked<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>across the =
street from a body shop and could see a =
Porsche<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>ready for =
paint.&nbsp; I went in the office and asked for a =
price<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>- not engine =
bay or other hidden places. &nbsp;$3,000 &nbsp; =
!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>As the man =
said, this isn't Maaco.&nbsp; I =
replied,&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>$3,000 will =
buy a lot of sandpaper and spray =
cans.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Not =
really,,,,,I have a spray gun and compressor, =
AND&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>two DVDs on =
how to do it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p =
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