Subject: Re: [TR] winter storage

From: "dave n" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 07:30:06 -0500

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wonderful history.  don=E2=80=99t ever let them go!

From: Dave=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 6:45 AM
To: [email-masked] ; [email-masked] ; =
[email-masked] ; [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [TR] winter storage

That's 'cause they were paced in cosmoline.  ;-)

Cheers and thanks for the remembrances.

Dave Massey

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From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
To: 'Reihing, Randall S.' <[email-masked]>; 'dave n' =
<[email-masked]>; triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tue, May 3, 2016 6:23 am
Subject: Re: [TR] winter storage

Randall Reihing wrote:
I have two WW II US Army five gallon cans that were originally on a WW =
II US Army tank and at 75 years old they are still good, do not leak, =
are not rusty inside or outside, and hold fuel for as long as I need =
them to, which is a lot less than 20-30 years. =20

Snap! They knew how to make them in WW2. I=E2=80=99ve still got a 25 =
litre German jerrican in German field grey stamped, =E2=80=9CWehrmacht. =
Afrika Korps 1942 =E2=80=93 fur Kubelwagen=E2=80=9D. Presumably it was =
designed to clip on to the open-topped VW used by the likes of Rommel =
and friends?

How this can made it back to England is anyone=E2=80=99s guess, =
especially as it has two approx. 5 inch diameter patches painted olive =
green welded to either face equally stamped on the patches =
=E2=80=9CBritish Fifth Army LRDG=E2=80=9D which LRDG means Long Range =
Desert Group. These were the guys who penetrated far behind enemy lines =
and made a nuisance of themselves by blowing up supply lines and =
indulging in other unco-operative initiatives. Dad used the can for =
years afterwards for kerosene to keep the kero heater in our greenhouse =
at home going in the winter. It=E2=80=99s still good for use and while =
it takes up a lot of space in my tiny workshop, I can=E2=80=99t bring =
myself to be rid of itJ It=E2=80=99s strange how the Germans and the =
Allies used such a familiar design. Who copied who or was it two like =
minds on different sides coming up with the same idea and concept?

Jonmac

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Army tank=20
and at 75 years old they are still good, do not leak, are not rusty =
inside or=20
outside, and hold fuel for as long as I need them to, which is a lot =
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style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>Snap! They =
knew how=20
to make them in WW2. I=E2=80=99ve still got a 25 litre German jerrican =
in German field=20
grey stamped, =E2=80=9CWehrmacht. Afrika Korps 1942 =E2=80=93 fur =
Kubelwagen=E2=80=9D. Presumably it was=20
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can made it=20
back to England is anyone=E2=80=99s guess, especially as it has two =
approx. 5 inch=20
diameter patches painted olive green welded to either face equally =
stamped on=20
the patches =E2=80=9CBritish Fifth Army LRDG=E2=80=9D which LRDG means =
Long Range Desert Group.=20
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nuisance of=20
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unco-operative=20
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the kero=20
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good for use=20
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It=E2=80=99s strange how the=20
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From: "Reihing, Randall S." <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 13:57:59 +0000

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I agree! I would keep those cans in the family forever. Genuine WW II histo=
rical artifacts.

Historical records list the Germans as the original inventor of the "Jerry"=
, 4 liter or 5.3 US Gallon can before WW II. During WW II the British, Amer=
icans and Russians all realized the can was superior to what they were usin=
g and after a few variations eventually copied the design, still in use tod=
ay. The British were the fastest to realize the can's excellent design with=
 the American's, as usual, having to try and "improve" a superior design, f=
ailing at every attempt, and finally adopting the design in it's entirety. =
The three handles are so one person, or two people with one on each side, c=
an carry the can.

Dave, the two I have are very cool but not nearly as historical as what you=
 have. Keep them forever, or maybe consider donating them to a museum. What=
 a cool display they would make in your shop. So much history there. Not a =
single, ground based, gasoline powered vehicle on either side moved very fa=
r without those cans.

Oddly, I was recently reading about President Roosevelt's WW II history and=
 came across a passage where he actually referenced those "Jerry" cans and =
said without them the Allies would not have been as successful in France as=
 we were.

Some amazing history represented in those two cans.

Randall Reihing
________________________________
From: Triumphs [[email-masked]] on behalf of dave n [dave@=
ranteer.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 8:30 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] winter storage

wonderful history.  don=92t ever let them go!

ox.team.net>

Dave Massey

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From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
To: 'Reihing, Randall S.' <[email-masked]>; 'dave n' <dave@ran=
teer.com>; triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tue, May 3, 2016 6:23 am
Subject: Re: [TR] winter storage

Randall Reihing wrote:
I have two WW II US Army five gallon cans that were originally on a WW II U=
S Army tank and at 75 years old they are still good, do not leak, are not r=
usty inside or outside, and hold fuel for as long as I need them to, which =
is a lot less than 20-30 years.

Snap! They knew how to make them in WW2. I=92ve still got a 25 litre German=
 jerrican in German field grey stamped, =93Wehrmacht. Afrika Korps 1942 =96=
 fur Kubelwagen=94. Presumably it was designed to clip on to the open-toppe=
d VW used by the likes of Rommel and friends?

How this can made it back to England is anyone=92s guess, especially as it =
has two approx. 5 inch diameter patches painted olive green welded to eithe=
r face equally stamped on the patches =93British Fifth Army LRDG=94 which L=
RDG means Long Range Desert Group. These were the guys who penetrated far b=
ehind enemy lines and made a nuisance of themselves by blowing up supply li=
nes and indulging in other unco-operative initiatives. Dad used the can for=
 years afterwards for kerosene to keep the kero heater in our greenhouse at=
 home going in the winter. It=92s still good for use and while it takes up =
a lot of space in my tiny workshop, I can=92t bring myself to be rid of it:=
) It=92s strange how the Germans and the Allies used such a familiar design=
. Who copied who or was it two like minds on different sides coming up with=
 the same idea and concept?

Jonmac

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I historical artifacts.&nbsp;
<div><br>
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<div>Historical records list the Germans as the original inventor of the &q=
uot;Jerry&quot;, 4 liter or 5.3 US Gallon can before WW II. During WW II th=
e British, Americans and Russians all realized the can was superior to what=
 they were using and after a few variations
 eventually copied the design, still in use today. The British were the fas=
test to realize the can's excellent design with the American's, as usual, h=
aving to try and &quot;improve&quot; a superior design, failing at every at=
tempt, and finally adopting the design in
 it's entirety. The three handles are so one person, or two people with one=
 on each side, can carry the can. &nbsp;</div>
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<div>Dave, the two I have are very cool but not nearly as historical as wha=
t you have. Keep them forever,<span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">&nbsp;or may=
be consider donating them to a museum. What a cool display they would make =
in your shop. So much history there. Not
 a single, ground based, gasoline powered vehicle on either side moved very=
 far without those cans.&nbsp;</span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Oddly, I was recently reading about President Roosevelt's WW II histor=
y and came across a passage where he actually referenced those &quot;Jerry&=
quot; cans and said without them the Allies would not have been as successf=
ul in France as we were.&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Some amazing history represented in those two cans.&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Randall Reihing<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 03, 2016 8:30 AM<br>
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<div>wonderful history.&nbsp; don=92t ever let them go!</div>
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Dave</a> </div>
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[email-masked]</a> ; <a title=3D"[email-masked]"=
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[email-masked]</a> ; <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mai=
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t size=3D"4">That's 'cause they were paced in cosmoline.&nbsp; ;-)</font><b=
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<br>
<font size=3D"4">Cheers and thanks for the remembrances.</font><br>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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To: 'Reihing, Randall S.' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; 'dave n' &lt=
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alibri&quot;,sans-serif; color:#1f497d">Randall Reihing wrote:</span><span =
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<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt; font-family:&quot;T=
ahoma&quot;,sans-serif; color:black">I have two WW II US Army five gallon c=
ans that were originally on a WW II US Army tank and at 75 years old they a=
re still good, do not leak, are not rusty inside
 or outside, and hold fuel for as long as I need them to, which is a lot le=
ss than 20-30 years.&nbsp;
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<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,sans-serif">Snap! They knew how to make them in WW2. I=92ve st=
ill got a 25 litre German jerrican in German field grey stamped, =93Wehrmac=
ht. Afrika Korps 1942 =96 fur Kubelwagen=94. Presumably
 it was designed to clip on to the open-topped VW used by the likes of Romm=
el and friends?</span></div>
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<div class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,sans-serif">How this can made it back to England is anyone=92s=
 guess, especially as it has two approx. 5 inch diameter patches painted ol=
ive green welded to either face equally stamped
 on the patches =93British Fifth Army LRDG=94 which LRDG means Long Range D=
esert Group. These were the guys who penetrated far behind enemy lines and =
made a nuisance of themselves by blowing up supply lines and indulging in o=
ther unco-operative initiatives. Dad
 used the can for years afterwards for kerosene to keep the kero heater in =
our greenhouse at home going in the winter. It=92s still good for use and w=
hile it takes up a lot of space in my tiny workshop, I can=92t bring myself=
 to be rid of it</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt; font-family:wingdings=
">J</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt; font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif">
 It=92s strange how the Germans and the Allies used such a familiar design.=
 Who copied who or was it two like minds on different sides coming up with =
the same idea and concept?</span></div>
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