Subject: Re: [TR] Moss Steering Rack Security Mount

From: David Friedlander <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 19:57:00 -0400

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Wow, thanks, Peter! Yes, I received that letter but had no
idea they would offer to treplace the rack with the new
stronger rack for free. The letter made no mention of
that. I'll check into it immediately!

Thanks again,

Dave

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 7:54 PM, Peter K <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

> From: David Friedlander <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Cc: TR3 Triumphs <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Moss Steering Rack Security Mount
> Message-ID:
> <CAJ1eQwjf2fT1Zau7wd4tdpTnQ5cwjrK+ECOJ6WXFa3W2=[email-masked]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"
>
> I installed the Moss High-ratio steering rack (P/N 667-177) in my
> TR6 some years ago, with no issues (they made no mention of not
> recommending solid mounts, at that time, but they do now). I don't
> autocross my car and have not replaced the rack...
>
> http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=3D63907
>
> So, if these racks are unsafe, or, if Moss "feels there's potential
> litigation"
> associated with their use,  how is it Moss still sells them?
>
> Dave
> Hi all,
>
> In 2015, Moss sent a notice to purchasers (from their records) of the
> quick rack indicating that the then current model 667-175 was =E2=80=9Cno=
t suitable
> for racing purposes=E2=80=9D after they were made aware of problem with t=
he racks
> potentially separating at the mounts on the race track. Their remedy was =
to
> replace the racks with a new stronger built rack =E2=80=9Cbuilt to the sa=
me
> specification as a standard ratio=E2=80=9D rack. The new part number refl=
ected the
> change.
>
> p/n 667-177 is the new stronger built q/r rack. p/n 667-175, 667-185
> (Spit, GT6) are the original p/ns.
>
> So check your receipt, not the catalog to be sure that you have the newer
> rack. If not call Tech Services 805-681-3411 They replaced mine for free,
> paid shipping both ways, and paid for my trouble.
>
> Be safe, PeterK
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Wow, thanks, Peter! Yes, I received th=
at letter but had no <br>idea they would offer to treplace the rack with th=
e new <br>stronger rack for free. The letter made no mention of <br>that. I=
&#39;ll check into it immediately!<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Thanks =
again,<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic=
 sans ms,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Dave<br><br></div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 7:54=
 PM, Peter K <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kentech0822@myfairpoin=
t.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<=
br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Arial&#39;;COLOR:#000000">
<div><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt">From: Da=
vid=20
Friedlander &lt;</font></font><font style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt"><a><font face=
=3D"Times New Roman">[email-masked]</font></a><font face=3D"Times New R=
oman">&gt;<br>To: </font><a><font face=3D"Times New Roman">ptegler@verizon.=
net</font></a><br><font face=3D"Times New Roman">Cc: TR3 Triumphs &lt;</fon=
t><a><font face=3D"Times New Roman">[email-masked]</font></a><font=
 face=3D"Times New Roman">&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [TR] Moss Steering Rack Secu=
rity=20
Mount<br>Message-ID:<br>&lt;</font><a><font face=3D"Times New Roman">CAJ1eQ=
wjf2fT1Zau7wd4tdpTnQ5cwjrK+ECOJ6WXFa3W2=[email-masked]</font></a><f=
ont face=3D"Times New Roman">&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain;=20
charset=3D&quot;utf-8&quot;<br><br>I installed the Moss High-ratio steering=
 rack (P/N=20
667-177) in my<br>TR6 some years ago, with no issues (they made no mention =
of=20
not<br>recommending solid mounts, at that time, but they do now). I=20
don&#39;t<br>autocross my car and have not replaced the rack...<br><br></fo=
nt><a><font face=3D"Times New Roman">http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewPro=
ducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=3D63907</font></a><br><br></font><font face=3D"Time=
s New Roman"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt">So, if these racks are=20
unsafe, or, if Moss &quot;feels there&#39;s potential<br>litigation&quot;<b=
r>associated with=20
their use,=C2=A0 how is it Moss still sells=20
them?<br><br>Dave</font></font><br></div>
<div>Hi all,</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>In 2015, Moss sent a notice to purchasers (from their records) of the =
quick=20
rack indicating that the then current model 667-175 was =E2=80=9Cnot suitab=
le for racing=20
purposes=E2=80=9D after they were made aware of problem with the racks pote=
ntially=20
separating at the mounts on the race track. Their remedy was to replace the=
=20
racks with a new stronger built rack =E2=80=9Cbuilt to the same specificati=
on as a=20
standard ratio=E2=80=9D rack. The new part number reflected the change.</di=
v>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>p/n 667-177 is the new stronger built q/r rack. p/n 667-175, 667-185 (=
Spit,=20
GT6) are the original p/ns. </div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>So check your receipt, not the catalog to be sure that you have the ne=
wer=20
rack. If not call Tech Services <a href=3D"tel:805-681-3411" value=3D"+1805=
6813411" target=3D"_blank">805-681-3411</a> They replaced mine for free, pa=
id=20
shipping both ways, and paid for my trouble.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Be safe, PeterK </div></div></div></div>
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From: David Friedlander <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 09:44:36 -0400

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Will do, Geo. Not looking forward to having to replace the rack. No, it's
not difficult as I've done replacements before.... But, aside from the
labor to get at it,  it also likely means another alignment, etc. Who wants
to get into that this time of year?  And the webpage for the replacement
rack suggests rubber or polyurethane mounts, not the solid mounts I now
have. Sigh..... I hope the new rack has a ground strap provision as the
'old' one didn't so the horn didn't work until I improvised a way to ground
the rack....

Dave

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Geo Hahn <[email-masked]> wrote:

> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:57 PM, David Friedlander <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> You might want to mention that you're thinking about Autocrossing the car.
>
> Geo
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Will do, Geo. Not looking forward to h=
aving to replace the rack. No, it&#39;s not difficult as I&#39;ve done repl=
acements before.... But, aside from the labor to get at it,=C2=A0 it also l=
ikely means another alignment, etc. Who wants to get into that this time of=
 year?=C2=A0 And the webpage for the replacement rack suggests rubber or po=
lyurethane mounts, not the solid mounts I now have. Sigh..... I hope the ne=
w rack has a ground strap provision as the &#39;old&#39; one didn&#39;t so =
the horn didn&#39;t work until I improvised a way to ground the rack....<br=
><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Dave<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,153)"><br><br></=
div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue,=
 May 3, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Geo Hahn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:a=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gma=
il_extra"><span class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 2, 2016 a=
t 4:57 PM, David Friedlander <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:forzio=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:</d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204=
,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,153);font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif">Wow, =
thanks, Peter! Yes, I received that letter but had no <br>idea they would o=
ffer to treplace the rack with the new <br>stronger rack for free. The lett=
er made no mention of <br>that. I&#39;ll check into it immediately!</div></=
div></blockquote><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><br></div></span><div class=3D"gmail_quote">You might want to menti=
on that you&#39;re thinking about Autocrossing the car.</div><span class=3D=
"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">Geo</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=C2=A0</div><br><=
/font></span></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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