Subject: [TR] The story (drags on) continues

From: John Summers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 00:50:13 +0000 (UTC)

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I felt well enough today (though I'm paying dearly now) to crawl under the =
TR 6 and tinkerwith the slave cylinder,,again. =C2=A0At this point I don't =
know whether to shoot the car, or myself!!You've seen me here whining befor=
e, right? =C2=A0Well, here I go again. =C2=A0I'm sorry. =C2=A0Tried to get =
the car=C2=A0in gear yet again and again and again! =C2=A0To no avail. =C2=
=A0The bear facts are I bled, re-bled I don't knowhow many times today. =C2=
=A0Pumped the clutch with anywhere from good pressure/resistance to no resi=
stance.Looked in the resivoir numerous times, filled the resivoir several t=
imes,,,,,,pumped the lever that the slave activatesMANY times and did see a=
ir bubbles and then did not see air bubbles and even thought I had defeated=
the beast,,,but didn't. =C2=A0In my final try of course started the car in =
neutral and tried to put the car in gear.Nothing doing!! Every gear, the sa=
me thing. =C2=A0I might as well have been pushing the shifter in hardenedco=
ncrete. Bright idea!! =C2=A0Just for fun put it in gear BEFORE you start it=
. =C2=A0Very funny!!! =C2=A0In gear, well, I didn't want to drive it off th=
e jack and jack stands. =C2=A0This is where I gave up. =C2=A0From 2 PM to 6=
:30 with a glimmer of hope. =C2=A0No hope.It wouldn't he such a big deal if=
 we were rolling in money. =C2=A0We have been there before and I have throw=
na ton of money at this car,,,,,,just to make it do the right things mechan=
ically. =C2=A0The body is worse thanit was when I bought it in '98.Answer m=
e this: =C2=A0The way I installed the slave and have driven the car like th=
is is =C2=A0with =C2=A0the =C2=A0rod facing forward.Now, diagrams I have se=
en really don't indicate which way the darned thing points. =C2=A0I DO have=
 to remove the oil filter to access thenut to bleed it. =C2=A0I have a "spi=
n on" adapter installed and to get any access to either top or bottom nut, =
the filter has to come off.Is it possible I have the darned thing backwards=
? =C2=A0I don't see how that could be because the rod and lever match up pe=
rfectlybut I've done sillier things. =C2=A0I know this is long, but I've GO=
T to get this car on the road. =C2=A0Maybe I mentioned it in another postbu=
t our '98 Maxima suffered a fender bender,,,,,,,on 2/20. =C2=A0We've been i=
n a rental car ever since. State Farm sent me to Hertzand the Maxima is at =
a national chain called Gerber. =C2=A0I didn't know what to do and was rely=
ing on them to get the job done.Gerber declared it a total because it would=
 cost way more to repair than it was worth. =C2=A0The problem is - that is =
our only working carand in the last six weeks or so I have taken my oldest =
son to the emergency room something like 7 times. =C2=A0He has asthma=C2=A0=
for one thing and three disc's bulging which give him horrible head aches t=
o the point of causing him to vomit because ofthe pain. =C2=A0He also has N=
O cartilage in his left knee. =C2=A0My wife is way ahead of him and has gon=
e through this for 30 years. The last 16years on total disability. =C2=A0He=
r head hurts so bad her only respite is unconsciousness and except for appo=
intments with the psychiatrist,her pain doctor of 20 years and her G.P. she=
 is in bed. =C2=A0So the TR is our last resort. Yes it is difficult for her=
 to get in and out ofbut that is the only thing we have. =C2=A0And that's o=
nly about half the story. =C2=A0AGAIN,I apologize for the length of this po=
st and my=C2=A0stupidity but I've GOT to get this car on the road,,,,,,,,pl=
us, dang it, the weather here in North Florida has been gorgeous and=C2=A0I=
 wanna do som top down driving. =C2=A0At 67 am I:(( =C2=A0Thanks guys.
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sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_6657"=
 dir=3D"ltr">I felt well enough today (though I'm paying dearly now) to cra=
wl under the TR 6 and tinker</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146093702488=
1_6657" dir=3D"ltr">with the slave cylinder,,again. &nbsp;At this point I d=
on't know whether to shoot the car, or myself!!</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1460937024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">You've seen me here whining before, =
right? &nbsp;Well, here I go again. &nbsp;I'm sorry. &nbsp;Tried to get the=
 car&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr=
">in gear yet again and again and again! &nbsp;To no avail. &nbsp;The bear =
facts are I bled, re-bled I don't know</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
60937024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">how many times today. &nbsp;Pumped the clutch=
 with anywhere from good pressure/resistance to no resistance.</div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">Looked in the resivoi=
r numerous times, filled the resivoir several times,,,,,,pumped the lever t=
hat the slave activates</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_665=
7" dir=3D"ltr">MANY times and did see air bubbles and then did not see air =
bubbles and even thought I had defeated</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1=
460937024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">the beast,,,but didn't. &nbsp;In my final tr=
y of course started the car in neutral and tried to put the car in gear.</d=
iv><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">Nothing doi=
ng!! Every gear, the same thing. &nbsp;I might as well have been pushing th=
e shifter in hardened</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_6657"=
 dir=3D"ltr">concrete. Bright idea!! &nbsp;Just for fun put it in gear BEFO=
RE you start it. &nbsp;Very funny!!! &nbsp;In gear, well, I didn't want to =
drive it off the jack and jack stands. &nbsp;This is where I gave up. &nbsp=
;From 2 PM to 6:30 with a glimmer of hope. &nbsp;No hope.</div><div id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">It wouldn't he such a big =
deal if we were rolling in money. &nbsp;We have been there before and I hav=
e thrown</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">=
a ton of money at this car,,,,,,just to make it do the right things mechani=
cally. &nbsp;The body is worse than</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14609=
37024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">it was when I bought it in '98.</div><div id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">Answer me this: &nbsp;The=
 way I installed the slave and have driven the car like this is &nbsp;with =
&nbsp;the &nbsp;rod facing forward.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14609=
37024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">Now, diagrams I have seen really don't indicate =
which way the darned thing points. &nbsp;I DO have to remove the oil filter=
 to access the</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_6657" dir=3D=
"ltr">nut to bleed it. &nbsp;I have a "spin on" adapter installed and to ge=
t any access to either top or bottom nut, the filter has to come off.</div>=
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">Is it possible=
 I have the darned thing backwards? &nbsp;I don't see how that could be bec=
ause the rod and lever match up perfectly</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1460937024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">but I've done sillier things. &nbsp;I know=
 this is long, but I've GOT to get this car on the road. &nbsp;Maybe I ment=
ioned it in another post</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_66=
57" dir=3D"ltr">but our '98 Maxima suffered a fender bender,,,,,,,on 2/20. =
&nbsp;We've been in a rental car ever since. State Farm sent me to Hertz</d=
iv><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">and the Max=
ima is at a national chain called Gerber. &nbsp;I didn't know what to do an=
d was relying on them to get the job done.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1460937024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">Gerber declared it a total because it wou=
ld cost way more to repair than it was worth. &nbsp;The problem is - that i=
s our only working car</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_6657=
" dir=3D"ltr">and in the last six weeks or so I have taken my oldest son to=
 the emergency room something like 7 times. &nbsp;He has asthma</div><div i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;for one thing =
and three disc's bulging which give him horrible head aches to the point of=
 causing him to vomit because of</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14609370=
24881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">the pain. &nbsp;He also has NO cartilage in his lef=
t knee. &nbsp;My wife is way ahead of him and has gone through this for 30 =
years. The last 16</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_6657" di=
r=3D"ltr">years on total disability. &nbsp;Her head hurts so bad her only r=
espite is unconsciousness and except for appointments with the psychiatrist=
,</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">her pai=
n doctor of 20 years and her G.P. she is in bed. &nbsp;So the TR is our las=
t resort. Yes it is difficult for her to get in and out of</div><div id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">but that is the only thin=
g we have. &nbsp;And that's only about half the story. &nbsp;AGAIN,I apolog=
ize for the length of this post and my&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1460937024881_6657" dir=3D"ltr">stupidity but I've GOT to get this car =
on the road,,,,,,,,plus, dang it, the weather here in North Florida has bee=
n gorgeous and&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460937024881_6657" =
dir=3D"ltr">I wanna do som top down driving. &nbsp;At 67 am I:(( &nbsp;Than=
ks guys.</div></div></body></html>
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From: Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 20:59:43 -0600

Thrust washers?

mjb.

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From: Geo Hahn <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 07:39:12 -0700

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Randall's list is, of course, excellent.  One more thing you might try --

Have someone closely watch the fluid reservoir as the clutch pedal is
depressed.  Does the level stay the same (it should)?  Or does it rise
slightly?  The latter may indicate that the small seal on the end of the MC
piston configuration is not sealing properly.

That is probably not the problem but only takes a moment to check and, I
think, would account for what you're getting (or not getting).

I agree on finding an old car for daily transport -- Florida (like Arizona)
probably has many little old ladies/widows who are getting rid of the car.
Ideally a low miles, common, unpopular model.  Buick Regals seem to be the
ubiquitous retiree car here but any 10+ year old sedan not popular with
kids (who seem to like Civics) should be appropriate.

Geo

On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 5:50 PM, John Summers <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> I felt well enough today (though I'm paying dearly now) to crawl under the
> TR 6 and tinker
> with the slave cylinder,,again.  At this point I don't know whether to
> shoot the car, or myself!!
> You've seen me here whining before, right?  Well, here I go again.  I'm
> sorry.  Tried to get the car
> in gear yet again and again and again!  To no avail.  The bear facts are I
> bled, re-bled I don't know
> how many times today.  Pumped the clutch with anywhere from good
> pressure/resistance to no resistance.
> Looked in the resivoir numerous times, filled the resivoir several
> times,,,,,,pumped the lever that the slave activates
> MANY times and did see air bubbles and then did not see air bubbles and
> even thought I had defeated
> the beast,,,but didn't.  In my final try of course started the car in
> neutral and tried to put the car in gear.
> Nothing doing!! Every gear, the same thing.  I might as well have been
> pushing the shifter in hardened
> concrete. Bright idea!!  Just for fun put it in gear BEFORE you start it.
> Very funny!!!  In gear, well, I didn't want to drive it off the jack and
> jack stands.  This is where I gave up.  From 2 PM to 6:30 with a glimmer of
> hope.  No hope.
> It wouldn't he such a big deal if we were rolling in money.  We have been
> there before and I have thrown
> a ton of money at this car,,,,,,just to make it do the right things
> mechanically.  The body is worse than
> it was when I bought it in '98.
> Answer me this:  The way I installed the slave and have driven the car
> like this is  with  the  rod facing forward.
> Now, diagrams I have seen really don't indicate which way the darned thing
> points.  I DO have to remove the oil filter to access the
> nut to bleed it.  I have a "spin on" adapter installed and to get any
> access to either top or bottom nut, the filter has to come off.
> Is it possible I have the darned thing backwards?  I don't see how that
> could be because the rod and lever match up perfectly
> but I've done sillier things.  I know this is long, but I've GOT to get
> this car on the road.  Maybe I mentioned it in another post
> but our '98 Maxima suffered a fender bender,,,,,,,on 2/20.  We've been in
> a rental car ever since. State Farm sent me to Hertz
> and the Maxima is at a national chain called Gerber.  I didn't know what
> to do and was relying on them to get the job done.
> Gerber declared it a total because it would cost way more to repair than
> it was worth.  The problem is - that is our only working car
> and in the last six weeks or so I have taken my oldest son to the
> emergency room something like 7 times.  He has asthma
>  for one thing and three disc's bulging which give him horrible head aches
> to the point of causing him to vomit because of
> the pain.  He also has NO cartilage in his left knee.  My wife is way
> ahead of him and has gone through this for 30 years. The last 16
> years on total disability.  Her head hurts so bad her only respite is
> unconsciousness and except for appointments with the psychiatrist,
> her pain doctor of 20 years and her G.P. she is in bed.  So the TR is our
> last resort. Yes it is difficult for her to get in and out of
> but that is the only thing we have.  And that's only about half the
> story.  AGAIN,I apologize for the length of this post and my
> stupidity but I've GOT to get this car on the road,,,,,,,,plus, dang it,
> the weather here in North Florida has been gorgeous and
> I wanna do som top down driving.  At 67 am I:((  Thanks guys.
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Randall&#39;s list is, of course, excellent.=C2=A0 On=
e more thing you might try --</div><div><br></div><div>Have someone closely=
 watch the fluid reservoir as the clutch pedal is depressed.=C2=A0 Does the=
 level stay the same (it should)?=C2=A0 Or does it rise slightly?=C2=A0 The=
 latter may indicate that the small seal on the end of the MC piston config=
uration is not sealing properly.</div><div><br></div><div>That is probably =
not the problem but only takes a moment to check and, I think, would accoun=
t for what you&#39;re getting (or not getting).</div><div><br></div><div>I =
agree on finding an old car for daily transport -- Florida (like Arizona) p=
robably has many little old ladies/widows who are getting rid of the car.=
=C2=A0 Ideally a low miles, common,=C2=A0unpopular model.=C2=A0 Buick Regal=
s seem to be the ubiquitous retiree car here but any 10+ year old sedan not=
 popular with kids (who seem to like Civics) should be appropriate.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Geo</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 5:50 PM, John Summers <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">river=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><=
div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue=
,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:r=
gb(255,255,255)"><div dir=3D"ltr">I felt well enough today (though I&#39;m =
paying dearly now) to crawl under the TR 6 and tinker</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>with the slave cylinder,,again.=C2=A0 At this point I don&#39;t know wheth=
er to shoot the car, or myself!!</div><div dir=3D"ltr">You&#39;ve seen me h=
ere whining before, right?=C2=A0 Well, here I go again.=C2=A0 I&#39;m sorry=
.=C2=A0 Tried to get the car=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr">in gear yet again =
and again and again!=C2=A0 To no avail.=C2=A0 The bear facts are I bled, re=
-bled I don&#39;t know</div><div dir=3D"ltr">how many times today.=C2=A0 Pu=
mped the clutch with anywhere from good pressure/resistance to no resistanc=
e.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Looked in the resivoir numerous times, filled the =
resivoir several times,,,,,,pumped the lever that the slave activates</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">MANY times and did see air bubbles and then did not see ai=
r bubbles and even thought I had defeated</div><div dir=3D"ltr">the beast,,=
,but didn&#39;t.=C2=A0 In my final try of course started the car in neutral=
 and tried to put the car in gear.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Nothing doing!! Ev=
ery gear, the same thing.=C2=A0 I might as well have been pushing the shift=
er in hardened</div><div dir=3D"ltr">concrete. Bright idea!!=C2=A0 Just for=
 fun put it in gear BEFORE you start it.=C2=A0 Very funny!!!=C2=A0 In gear,=
 well, I didn&#39;t want to drive it off the jack and jack stands.=C2=A0 Th=
is is where I gave up.=C2=A0 From 2 PM to 6:30 with a glimmer of hope.=C2=
=A0 No hope.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">It wouldn&#39;t he such a big deal if we=
 were rolling in money.=C2=A0 We have been there before and I have thrown</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">a ton of money at this car,,,,,,just to make it do the=
 right things mechanically.=C2=A0 The body is worse than</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">it was when I bought it in &#39;98.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Answer me thi=
s: =C2=A0The way I installed the slave and have driven the car like this is=
 =C2=A0with =C2=A0the =C2=A0rod facing forward.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Now, =
diagrams I have seen really don&#39;t indicate which way the darned thing p=
oints.=C2=A0 I DO have to remove the oil filter to access the</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">nut to bleed it.=C2=A0 I have a &quot;spin on&quot; adapter instal=
led and to get any access to either top or bottom nut, the filter has to co=
me off.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Is it possible I have the darned thing backwa=
rds?=C2=A0 I don&#39;t see how that could be because the rod and lever matc=
h up perfectly</div><div dir=3D"ltr">but I&#39;ve done sillier things.=C2=
=A0 I know this is long, but I&#39;ve GOT to get this car on the road.=C2=
=A0 Maybe I mentioned it in another post</div><div dir=3D"ltr">but our &#39=
;98 Maxima suffered a fender bender,,,,,,,on 2/20.=C2=A0 We&#39;ve been in =
a rental car ever since. State Farm sent me to Hertz</div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
and the Maxima is at a national chain called Gerber.=C2=A0 I didn&#39;t kno=
w what to do and was relying on them to get the job done.</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Gerber declared it a total because it would cost way more to repair th=
an it was worth.=C2=A0 The problem is - that is our only working car</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">and in the last six weeks or so I have taken my oldest son =
to the emergency room something like 7 times.=C2=A0 He has asthma</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0for one thing and three disc&#39;s bulging which give hi=
m horrible head aches to the point of causing him to vomit because of</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">the pain.=C2=A0 He also has NO cartilage in his left knee.=
=C2=A0 My wife is way ahead of him and has gone through this for 30 years. =
The last 16</div><div dir=3D"ltr">years on total disability.=C2=A0 Her head=
 hurts so bad her only respite is unconsciousness and except for appointmen=
ts with the psychiatrist,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">her pain doctor of 20 years=
 and her G.P. she is in bed.=C2=A0 So the TR is our last resort. Yes it is =
difficult for her to get in and out of</div><div dir=3D"ltr">but that is th=
e only thing we have.=C2=A0 And that&#39;s only about half the story.=C2=A0=
 AGAIN,I apologize for the length of this post and my=C2=A0</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">stupidity but I&#39;ve GOT to get this car on the road,,,,,,,,plus=
, dang it, the weather here in North Florida has been gorgeous and=C2=A0</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">I wanna do som top down driving.=C2=A0 At 67 am I:(( =
=C2=A0Thanks guys.</div></div></div><br><br>
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From: Stan Foster <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 16:51:12 +0000

The other usual suspect is a sheared fork pin.

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From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2016 11:00 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] The story (drags on) continues

Thrust washers?

mjb.

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If one gets a "hard" pedal and it then goes away.. THERE IS an air leak. 
Either the MC or slave or some where in between...
dp

On 4/18/2016 8:39 AM, Geo Hahn wrote:
> slightly?  The latter may indicate that the small seal on the end of 
> the MC piston configuration is not sealing properly.
>
> That is probably not the problem but only takes a moment to check and, 
> I think, would account for what you're getting (or not getting).
>
> I agree on finding an old car for daily transport -- Florida (like 
> Arizona) probably has many little old ladies/widows who are getting 
> rid of the car.  Ideally a low miles, common, unpopular model.  Buick 
> Regals seem to be the ubiquitous retiree car here but any 10+ year old 
> sedan not popular with kids (who seem to like Civics) should be 
> appropriate.
>
> Geo
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 5:50 PM, John Summers <[email-masked] 
>
>     I felt well enough today (though I'm paying dearly now) to crawl
>     under the TR 6 and tinker
>     with the slave cylinder,,again.  At this point I don't know
>     whether to shoot the car, or myself!!
>     You've seen me here whining before, right?  Well, here I go
>     again.  I'm sorry.  Tried to get the car
>     in gear yet again and again and again! To no avail.  The bear
>     facts are I bled, re-bled I don't know
>     MANY times and did see air bubbles and then did not see air
>     bubbles and even thought I had defeated
>     the beast,,,but didn't.  In my final try of course started the car
>     in neutral and tried to put the car in gear.
>     Nothing doing!! Every gear, the same thing.  I might as well have
>     been pushing the shifter in hardened
>     concrete. Bright idea!!  Just for fun put it in gear BEFORE you
>     start it.  Very funny!!!  In gear, well, I didn't want to drive it
>     off the jack and jack stands.  This is where I gave up.  From 2 PM
>     to 6:30 with a glimmer of hope.  No hope.
>     It wouldn't he such a big deal if we were rolling in money.  We
>     have been there before and I have thrown
>     a ton of money at this car,,,,,,just to make it do the right
>     things mechanically.  The body is worse than
>     Answer me this:  The way I installed the slave and have driven the
>     car like this is  with  the  rod facing forward.
>     Now, diagrams I have seen really don't indicate which way the
>     darned thing points.  I DO have to remove the oil filter to access the
>     nut to bleed it.  I have a "spin on" adapter installed and to get
>     any access to either top or bottom nut, the filter has to come off.
>     Is it possible I have the darned thing backwards?  I don't see how
>     that could be because the rod and lever match up perfectly
>     but I've done sillier things.  I know this is long, but I've GOT
>     to get this car on the road.  Maybe I mentioned it in another post
>     but our '98 Maxima suffered a fender bender,,,,,,,on 2/20.  We've
>     been in a rental car ever since. State Farm sent me to Hertz
>     and the Maxima is at a national chain called Gerber.  I didn't
>     know what to do and was relying on them to get the job done.
>     Gerber declared it a total because it would cost way more to
>     repair than it was worth.  The problem is - that is our only
>     working car
>      for one thing and three disc's bulging which give him horrible
>     head aches to the point of causing him to vomit because of
>     the pain.  He also has NO cartilage in his left knee.  My wife is
>     way ahead of him and has gone through this for 30 years. The last 16
>     years on total disability.  Her head hurts so bad her only respite
>     is unconsciousness and except for appointments with the psychiatrist,
>     her pain doctor of 20 years and her G.P. she is in bed.  So the TR
>     is our last resort. Yes it is difficult for her to get in and out of
>     but that is the only thing we have.  And that's only about half
>     the story.  AGAIN,I apologize for the length of this post and my
>     stupidity but I've GOT to get this car on the road,,,,,,,,plus,
>     dang it, the weather here in North Florida has been gorgeous and
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    If one gets a "hard" pedal and it then goes away.. THERE IS an air
    leak. Either the MC or slave or some where in between...<br>
    dp<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/18/2016 8:39 AM, Geo Hahn wrote:<br>
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        <div>Randall's list is, of course, excellent.  One more thing
          you might try --</div>
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        </div>
        <div>Have someone closely watch the fluid reservoir as the
          clutch pedal is depressed.  Does the level stay the same (it
          should)?  Or does it rise slightly?  The latter may indicate
          that the small seal on the end of the MC piston configuration
          is not sealing properly.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>That is probably not the problem but only takes a moment to
          check and, I think, would account for what you're getting (or
          not getting).</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I agree on finding an old car for daily transport --
          Florida (like Arizona) probably has many little old
          ladies/widows who are getting rid of the car.  Ideally a low
          miles, common, unpopular model.  Buick Regals seem to be the
          ubiquitous retiree car here but any 10+ year old sedan not
          popular with kids (who seem to like Civics) should be
          appropriate.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Geo</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 5:50 PM, John
          Summers <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <div dir="ltr">I felt well enough today (though I'm
                  paying dearly now) to crawl under the TR 6 and tinker</div>
                <div dir="ltr">with the slave cylinder,,again.  At this
                  point I don't know whether to shoot the car, or
                  myself!!</div>
                <div dir="ltr">You've seen me here whining before,
                  right?  Well, here I go again.  I'm sorry.  Tried to
                  get the car </div>
                <div dir="ltr">in gear yet again and again and again! 
                  To no avail.  The bear facts are I bled, re-bled I
                  don't know</div>
                <div dir="ltr">how many times today.  Pumped the clutch
                  with anywhere from good pressure/resistance to no
                  resistance.</div>
                <div dir="ltr">Looked in the resivoir numerous times,
                  filled the resivoir several times,,,,,,pumped the
                  lever that the slave activates</div>
                <div dir="ltr">MANY times and did see air bubbles and
                  then did not see air bubbles and even thought I had
                  defeated</div>
                <div dir="ltr">the beast,,,but didn't.  In my final try
                  of course started the car in neutral and tried to put
                  the car in gear.</div>
                <div dir="ltr">Nothing doing!! Every gear, the same
                  thing.  I might as well have been pushing the shifter
                  in hardened</div>
                <div dir="ltr">concrete. Bright idea!!  Just for fun put
                  it in gear BEFORE you start it.  Very funny!!!  In
                  gear, well, I didn't want to drive it off the jack and
                  jack stands.  This is where I gave up.  From 2 PM to
                  6:30 with a glimmer of hope.  No hope.</div>
                <div dir="ltr">It wouldn't he such a big deal if we were
                  rolling in money.  We have been there before and I
                  have thrown</div>
                <div dir="ltr">a ton of money at this car,,,,,,just to
                  make it do the right things mechanically.  The body is
                  worse than</div>
                <div dir="ltr">it was when I bought it in '98.</div>
                <div dir="ltr">Answer me this:  The way I installed the
                  slave and have driven the car like this is  with  the
                   rod facing forward.</div>
                <div dir="ltr">Now, diagrams I have seen really don't
                  indicate which way the darned thing points.  I DO have
                  to remove the oil filter to access the</div>
                <div dir="ltr">nut to bleed it.  I have a "spin on"
                  adapter installed and to get any access to either top
                  or bottom nut, the filter has to come off.</div>
                <div dir="ltr">Is it possible I have the darned thing
                  backwards?  I don't see how that could be because the
                  rod and lever match up perfectly</div>
                <div dir="ltr">but I've done sillier things.  I know
                  this is long, but I've GOT to get this car on the
                  road.  Maybe I mentioned it in another post</div>
                <div dir="ltr">but our '98 Maxima suffered a fender
                  bender,,,,,,,on 2/20.  We've been in a rental car ever
                  since. State Farm sent me to Hertz</div>
                <div dir="ltr">and the Maxima is at a national chain
                  called Gerber.  I didn't know what to do and was
                  relying on them to get the job done.</div>
                <div dir="ltr">Gerber declared it a total because it
                  would cost way more to repair than it was worth.  The
                  problem is - that is our only working car</div>
                <div dir="ltr">and in the last six weeks or so I have
                  taken my oldest son to the emergency room something
                  like 7 times.  He has asthma</div>
                <div dir="ltr"> for one thing and three disc's bulging
                  which give him horrible head aches to the point of
                  causing him to vomit because of</div>
                <div dir="ltr">the pain.  He also has NO cartilage in
                  his left knee.  My wife is way ahead of him and has
                  gone through this for 30 years. The last 16</div>
                <div dir="ltr">years on total disability.  Her head
                  hurts so bad her only respite is unconsciousness and
                  except for appointments with the psychiatrist,</div>
                <div dir="ltr">her pain doctor of 20 years and her G.P.
                  she is in bed.  So the TR is our last resort. Yes it
                  is difficult for her to get in and out of</div>
                <div dir="ltr">but that is the only thing we have.  And
                  that's only about half the story.  AGAIN,I apologize
                  for the length of this post and my </div>
                <div dir="ltr">stupidity but I've GOT to get this car on
                  the road,,,,,,,,plus, dang it, the weather here in
                  North Florida has been gorgeous and </div>
                <div dir="ltr">I wanna do som top down driving.  At 67
                  am I:((  Thanks guys.</div>
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Looking at the drawing provided by Randall, the slave cylinder is mounted to=
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 and front of the cylinder would be closer to the oil filter and interfere a=
s you have said it does.=20

Allen
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> On Apr 17, 2016, at 8:50 PM, John Summers <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> Answer me this:  The way I installed the slave and have driven the car lik=
e this is  with  the  rod facing forward.
> Now, diagrams I have seen really don't indicate which way the darned thing=
> nut to bleed it.  I have a "spin on" adapter installed and to get any acce=
ss to either top or bottom nut, the filter has to come off.
> Is it possible I have the darned thing backwards?  I don't see how that co=
uld be because the rod and lever match up perfectly
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