Subject: [TR] Cylinder heads

From: "Andrew Uprichard" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:17:56 -0400

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I realize the carbs and intake manifolds changed as the cars progressed from
the TR3 - TR4 - TR4a, but was there any change to the head itself?  

And can any manifold / carb combination be used on any head?

Andrew Uprichard

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I realize =
the carbs and intake manifolds changed as the cars progressed from the =
TR3 &#8211; TR4 &#8211; TR4a, but was there any change to the head =
itself?&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p =
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manifold / carb combination be used on any head?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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From: Rye Livingston <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:09:21 +0000 (GMT) MailServer16B51.24857-16A-711-67daed14afd0

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That's a great chart! =C2=A0=0A=0AI knew the last TR4A=C2=A0head was the b=
est, and I bought one for my engine rebuild 6 months ago, and that chart r=
eally spells it out. =C2=A0Thanks for sending that link.=0ARye=0A=0AOn Apr=
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ee this:=0Ahttp://www.expeditionlandrover.info/2trSite/FAQ_heads.htm=0A=0A=
Sent from my iPad=0A=0AOn Apr 11, 2016, at 5:17 PM, "Andrew Uprichard" <au=
[email-masked]> wrote:=0A=0AI realize the carbs and intake manifol=
ds changed as the cars progressed from the TR3 =E2=80=93 TR4 =E2=80=93 TR4=
a, but was there any change to the head itself?=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=0AAnd can a=
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<html><body><div>That's a great chart! &nbsp;</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div=
><div>I knew the last TR4A&nbsp;head was the best, and I bought one for my=
 engine rebuild 6 months ago, and that chart really spells it out. &nbsp;T=
hanks for sending that link.</div><div></div><div>Rye</div><div class=3D"x=
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&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D=
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r><span>Sent from my iPad</span></div><div><br>On Apr 11, 2016, at 5:17 PM=
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From: Allen Hess <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 12:26:55 -0400

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All thanks go to Terrianne Wakeman
Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 13, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Rye Livingston <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> That's a great chart! =20
>=20
> I knew the last TR4A head was the best, and I bought one for my engine reb=
uild 6 months ago, and that chart really spells it out.  Thanks for sending t=
hat link.
> Rye
>=20
>> On Apr 13, 2016, at 04:29 AM, Allen Hess <[email-masked]> wrote:=

>>=20
>=20
>> See this:
>> http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/2trSite/FAQ_heads.htm

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>All thanks go to Terrianne Wakeman<br>=
Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Apr 13, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Rye Livingston=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></di=
v><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>That's a great chart! &nbsp;</div><div><br d=
ata-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>I knew the last TR4A&nbsp;head was the best, a=
nd I bought one for my engine rebuild 6 months ago, and that chart really sp=
ells it out. &nbsp;Thanks for sending that link.</div><div></div><div>Rye</d=
iv><div class=3D"x-apple-signature"></div><div><br>On Apr 13, 2016, at 04:29=
 AM, Allen Hess &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">allenhess@mgc=
arclub.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div c=
lass=3D"msg-quote" dir=3D"auto"><div>See this:</div><div><span><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.expeditionlandrover.info/2trSite/FAQ_heads.htm" data-mce-href=3D"ht=
tp://www.expeditionlandrover.info/2trSite/FAQ_heads.htm">http://www.expediti=
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From: "Rick" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 19:59:43 -0500

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I fitted my TR3A with a TR4A exhaust manifold and exhaust, and can speak to
the "interchangeability" of the manifolds. The TR4A exhaust manifold will
interlace ONLY with a TR4A intake manifold. Because of the longer throat of
the 4A intake manifold, it really requires HS6 carbs (short throat). Fitting
the original carbs to the 4A manifold requires substantial "modification" to
the wheel well sheetmetal to allow for the air boxes. In short, fitting a 4A
exhaust manifold to a TR3A requires both a 4A intake manifold AND new carbs
and linkages. Other than that, it's an easy mod.

The 3A runs great, by the way, with this change, a 4A cam grind, and 4A
cylinder linings and pistons.

 Rick in Seattle

1960 TR3A

1970 BSA 441 Victor

1972 Norton 750 Commando Combat

1975 Norton 850 Commando Mk3

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link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I fitted my TR3A with a TR4A exhaust manifold and =
exhaust, and can speak to the &#8220;interchangeability&#8221; of the =
manifolds. The TR4A exhaust manifold will interlace ONLY with a TR4A =
intake manifold. Because of the longer throat of the 4A intake manifold, =
it really requires HS6 carbs (short throat). Fitting the original carbs =
to the 4A manifold requires substantial &#8220;modification&#8221; to =
the wheel well sheetmetal to allow for the air boxes. In short, fitting =
a 4A exhaust manifold to a TR3A requires both a 4A intake manifold AND =
new carbs and linkages. Other than that, it&#8217;s an easy =
mod.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The 3A runs great, by the way, with this change, a 4A =
cam grind, and 4A cylinder linings and pistons.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif'>&nbsp;Rick in Seattle<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>1960 =
TR3A<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>1970 BSA =
441 Victor<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>1972 =
Norton 750 Commando Combat<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif'>1975 Norton 850 Commando =
Mk3<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>
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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 15:44:55 +0000 (UTC)

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you have a great site TerriAnn. and thank you for your efforts
Frank

      From: TeriAnn J. Wakeman <[email-masked]>
 To: Triumph List <[email-masked]>=20
 Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 4:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [TR] Cylinder heads
  =20
=20
 On 4/12/16 6:41 PM, Allen Hess wrote:
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See this: http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/2trSite/FAQ_heads.htm
  I'm going to have to get back on the server and mask the www.tr3.info sit=
e again.=C2=A0 I guess it was unmasked when I added another site to the ser=
ver.
=20
 If you have a TR3 there is some interesting stuff in my web site including=
 a lot of the Triumph Service bulletins, a Lucas wire colour code, bulkhead=
 hole designations for post TS-6000 vehicles and I have been capturing inte=
resting technical threads off both the TR and FOT mail lists, much of which=
 you will not find in books.=C2=A0 And of course if you have an interest in=
 DCOEs I have a page on that as well.
=20
 TeriAnn
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r></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Frank</span></div><div class=3D"qtdSe=
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nt size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <hr size=3D"1"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight=
:bold;">From:</span></b> TeriAnn J. Wakeman &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>=
 <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Triumph List &lt;triu=
[email-masked]&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</s=
pan></b> Wednesday, April 13, 2016 4:39 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weigh=
t: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [TR] Cylinder heads<br> </font> </div> <d=
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> site again.&nbsp; I guess it was unmasked when I added
    another site to the server.<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    If you have a TR3 there is some interesting stuff in my web site
    including a lot of the Triumph Service bulletins, a Lucas wire
    colour code, bulkhead hole designations for post TS-6000 vehicles
    and I have been capturing interesting technical threads off both the
    TR and FOT mail lists, much of which you will not find in books.&nbsp;
    And of course if you have an interest in DCOEs I have a page on that
    as well.<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
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