Subject: Re: [TR] Stag hardtop trim question

From: Chad <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 18:05:26 +0000 (UTC)

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Glenn-=C2=A0My trims under the window (813775/6) had plastic clips.=C2=A0 I=
 am trying to source replacements as I will have drill holes to pop-rivet t=
he little metal clips in place and I don't want to put more holes in the me=
tal.=C2=A0Thanks,=C2=A0Chad jester

      From: "[email-masked]" <StagByTriumph@triumphstagc=
lub.org>
 To: 'John Macartney' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]=
et=20
 Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 12:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [TR] Stag hardtop trim question
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ul {margin-bottom:0in;}-->John,Do you mean StagByTriumph Garage operated by=
 Glenn Merrell, aka StagByTriumph?Maybe.Here is the scoop:First there are s=
everal types of clips and fittings.=C2=A0 Some suppliers get it wrong with =
their =E2=80=9Ckits=E2=80=9D, combining the wrong parts or not asking the c=
ustomer the correct questions first.Another factor is of course the Dreaded=
 Previous Mechanic, Dreaded Previous Owner, Dreaded Previous Dealer who may=
 have changed or applied the incorrect parts in a repair. =C2=A0The hardtop=
 upper brightwork =C2=A0trim812219 =C2=A0original plastic clips 625953 are =
a two part system. Some hardtops have had these replaced with metal clips a=
nd pop rivets.=C2=A0 Going to metal created =C2=A0problems as it deformed t=
he trim and nicked the paintwork metal and allowed corrosion and rust to qu=
ickly set in.http://www.ldpart.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=3Dviewproduct&pid=3D23=
9&cat=3D53&maincat=3D9&start=3D0&sid=3Dsid25d6421f0fba01e2271bf484084364031=
.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 There is a plastic plug with a hole i=
n the center that gets pushed into the drilled hole in the metal.2.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The second part is the tabbed plastic =C2=A0=
with a plastic round post to match with the hole plugThe tabbed portion =C2=
=A0is twisted into the metal trim piece.=C2=A0 These allow the tabbed piece=
 to be slid to position with the plug.=C2=A0  =C2=A0The other trim pieces 8=
13775/6 at the windows are metal clips 630881 for the sides;=C2=A0 There ar=
e two different size holes for these clips.=C2=A0 It is not like BL produce=
d a hundred thousand Hard Tops for Stags, but they did build many other mod=
els and marques using the same trims and clips.http://www.ldpart.co.uk/shop=
/shop.php?c=3Dviewproduct&pid=3D586&cat=3D53&maincat=3D9&start=3D0&sid=3Dsi=
d25d6421f0fba01e2271bf48408436403Note there should also be a plastic gasket=
 622663 =C2=A0& 623720 under the edge of the hardtop metal edge that was on=
ce held in place by the trim clips holding the brightwork below the hard to=
p side and rear windows.=C2=A0 This plastic =E2=80=9CJ=E2=80=9D shaped stri=
p trapped water and caused the hardtop edge under the rear windows to rot =
=E2=80=93 there was a rolled seam there. =C2=A0I will guess that supplier o=
f the clips for that kit did not ask which size holes =E2=80=93 typically 7=
/64=E2=80=9D for the side brightwork, or the picker grabbed the wrong pop r=
ivets. =C2=A0This is why I recommend LDPart.co.uk for things like this on S=
tags.=C2=A0 Peter Howells knows the subtle differences and pays careful att=
ention to these details. =C2=A0In North America, if you have a good parts c=
ounter person at a good parts supplier such as NAPA, they will grab the cli=
ps catalogue and a caliper if they cannot locate it in their extensive data=
base online and find the exact clip you need.=C2=A0 The various coachwork c=
ompanies used standard brightwork trim and clips across many auto manufactu=
rers, certainly since GM and Ford both owned manufacturing and assembly pla=
nts in the UK producing vehicles like Vauxhall, Reliant, Cortina, Capri, JL=
R etc using the same dimension trims and clips from those eras. =C2=A0For a=
ny clip for any LBC, Check the UK company Bresco, =C2=A0http://www.bresco.c=
om/ =E2=80=93 chances are they got clips to fit any trim on any of your LBC=
=E2=80=99s, just be exact on your measurements because clips can look the s=
ame but be different in a dimension by a fraction of an inch or mm.=C2=A0 T=
hey have the plastic two piece hardtop system as used on Jaguars / BL / Rov=
er Triumph, and the metal clip pieces for the other areas on the vehicle fo=
r the attaching the brightwork.=C2=A0 Pop rivets, buy those at your local h=
ardware store. =C2=A0Cheers! =C2=A0Glenn Merrell=C2=A0 aka StagByTriumph Ga=
rage (now on FaceBook)Remember, =E2=80=9Cthe BEST trophies are: Miles on th=
e Odometer; Stone chips in the paint; and DEAD BUGS on the windscreen =E2=
=80=A6 with the occasional smell of manure!=E2=80=9D =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Fr=
om: John Macartney [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 6:55 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: FW: [TR] Stag hardtop trim question =C2=A0One for The Stag Garage =
perhaps? J Maybe a BFH and a box of nails? =C2=A0J =C2=A0From: Triumphs [ma=
ilto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Chad
Sent: 21 March 2016 12:43
To: Patrick Baize <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Stag hardtop trim question =C2=A0I am having similar issu=
es wit the side trim below the side windows.=C2=A0 I bought the trim clips =
and rivits listed....no way I can figure out how to make them work.=C2=A0 M=
y top had plastic clips on it but they rotted and cracked.=C2=A0Chad in Tul=
sa71 Stag. =C2=A0From: Patrick Baize <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]=20
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 6:44 PM
Subject: [TR] Stag hardtop trim question
was there a difference in clips that held the lower rear trim in place=20
between a Mk1 and 2?

I bought the clip kit,=C2=A0 and it uses=C2=A0 1/8=C2=A0 rivots, but the ho=
les in the=20
top are twice as large.

Pat
71 Stag
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"Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Do you mean StagByTriumph Garage=
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"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10130"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 1=
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oop:</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym1=
8_1_1458579037256_10078"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10077"=
 style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; fo=
nt-size: 11pt;'>First there are several types of clips and fittings.&nbsp; =
Some suppliers get it wrong with their =E2=80=9Ckits=E2=80=9D, combining th=
e wrong parts or not asking the customer the correct questions first.</span=
></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_145857=
9037256_10132"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10131" style=3D'=
color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 1=
1pt;'>Another factor is of course the Dreaded Previous Mechanic, Dreaded Pr=
evious Owner, Dreaded Previous Dealer who may have changed or applied the i=
ncorrect parts in a repair.</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNorma=
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;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: r=
gb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Th=
e hardtop upper brightwork &nbsp;trim812219 &nbsp;original plastic clips 62=
5953 are a two part system. Some hardtops have had these replaced with meta=
l clips and pop rivets.&nbsp; Going to metal created &nbsp;problems as it d=
eformed the trim and nicked the paintwork metal and allowed corrosion and r=
ust to quickly set in.</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10090"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_14=
58579037256_10089" style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri"=
, "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>http://www.ldpart.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=
=3Dviewproduct&amp;pid=3D239&amp;cat=3D53&amp;maincat=3D9&amp;start=3D0&amp=
;sid=3Dsid25d6421f0fba01e2271bf48408436403</span></div><div class=3D"yiv178=
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'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style=3D'=
color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 1=
1pt;'>There is a plastic plug with a hole in the center that gets pushed in=
to the drilled hole in the metal.</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680Ms=
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nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style=3D'color: rg=
b(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>The=
 second part is the tabbed plastic &nbsp;with a plastic round post to match=
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 style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; fo=
nt-size: 11pt;'>The tabbed portion &nbsp;is twisted into the metal trim pie=
ce.&nbsp; These allow the tabbed piece to be slid to position with the plug=
.&nbsp; </span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
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amily: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> &nbsp;</span></div><div =
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1, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>The ot=
her trim pieces 813775/6 at the windows are metal clips 630881 for the side=
s;&nbsp; There are two different size holes for these clips.&nbsp; It is no=
t like BL produced a hundred thousand Hard Tops for Stags, but they did bui=
ld many other models and marques using the same trims and clips.</span></di=
v><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_14585790372=
56_10083"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10082" style=3D'color=
: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'=
>http://www.ldpart.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=3Dviewproduct&amp;pid=3D586&amp;ca=
t=3D53&amp;maincat=3D9&amp;start=3D0&amp;sid=3Dsid25d6421f0fba01e2271bf4840=
8436403</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
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80" style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif";=
 font-size: 11pt;'>Note there should also be a plastic gasket 622663 &nbsp;=
&amp; 623720 under the edge of the hardtop metal edge that was once held in=
 place by the trim clips holding the brightwork below the hard top side and=
 rear windows.&nbsp; This plastic =E2=80=9CJ=E2=80=9D shaped strip trapped =
water and caused the hardtop edge under the rear windows to rot =E2=80=93 t=
here was a rolled seam there.</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-=
serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "s=
ans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>I will guess that supplier of the clips for t=
hat kit did not ask which size holes =E2=80=93 typically 7/64=E2=80=9D for =
the side brightwork, or the picker grabbed the wrong pop rivets.</span></di=
v><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 1=
25); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> &nbsp;</span>=
</div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 7=
3, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>This is wh=
y I recommend LDPart.co.uk for things like this on Stags.&nbsp; Peter Howel=
ls knows the subtle differences and pays careful attention to these details=
.</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: r=
gb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> &=
nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style=3D'colo=
r: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;=
'>In North America, if you have a good parts counter person at a good parts=
 supplier such as NAPA, they will grab the clips catalogue and a caliper if=
 they cannot locate it in their extensive database online and find the exac=
t clip you need.&nbsp; The various coachwork companies used standard bright=
work trim and clips across many auto manufacturers, certainly since GM and =
Ford both owned manufacturing and assembly plants in the UK producing vehic=
les like Vauxhall, Reliant, Cortina, Capri, JLR etc using the same dimensio=
n trims and clips from those eras.</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680M=
soNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "=
sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450=
680MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10088"><span style=3D'c=
olor: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11=
pt;'>For any clip for any LBC, Check the UK company Bresco, &nbsp;<a href=
=3D"http://www.bresco.com/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow">http://www.b=
resco.com/</a> =E2=80=93 chances are they got clips to fit any trim on any =
of your LBC=E2=80=99s, just be exact on your measurements because clips can=
 look the same but be different in a dimension by a fraction of an inch or =
mm.&nbsp; They have the plastic two piece hardtop system as used on Jaguars=
 / BL / Rover Triumph, and the metal clip pieces for the other areas on the=
 vehicle for the attaching the brightwork.&nbsp; Pop rivets, buy those at y=
our local hardware store.</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-seri=
f"; font-size: 11pt;'> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-=
serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Cheers!</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "s=
ans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv17824506=
80MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri"=
, "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Glenn Merrell&nbsp; </span></div><div cla=
ss=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-=
family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>aka StagByTriumph Garage=
 (<i>now on FaceBook</i>)</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-seri=
f"; font-size: 11pt;'>Remember, =E2=80=9Cthe BEST trophies are: Miles on th=
e Odometer; Stone chips in the paint; and DEAD BUGS on the windscreen =E2=
=80=A6 with the occasional smell of manure!=E2=80=9D</span></div><div class=
=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-fa=
mily: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> &nbsp;</span></div><div c=
lass=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); fon=
t-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> &nbsp;</span></div><d=
iv class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125);=
 font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> &nbsp;</span></di=
v><div><div style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid n=
one none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) currentColor currentColor; paddi=
ng: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D'f=
ont-family: "Tahoma", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>From:</span></b><span=
 style=3D'font-family: "Tahoma", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'> John Maca=
rtney [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March =
21, 2016 6:55 AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subje=
ct:</b> FW: [TR] Stag hardtop trim question</span></div></div></div><div cl=
ass=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoN=
ormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: =
"Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>One for The Stag Garage perhaps?=
 </span><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family:=
 Wingdings; font-size: 11pt;">J</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D'color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> =
Maybe a BFH and a box of nails?</span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoN=
ormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: =
"Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=
=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73=
, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>J</span></d=
iv><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D'colo=
r: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;=
'> &nbsp;</span></div><div><div style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium medium; b=
order-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentColor=
 currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal"=
><b><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>=
From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-s=
ize: 11pt;'> Triumphs [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.=
team.net">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>C=
had<br><b>Sent:</b> 21 March 2016 12:43<br><b>To:</b> Patrick Baize &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymail=
to=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:<=
/b> Re: [TR] Stag hardtop trim question</span></div></div></div><div class=
=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> &nbsp;</span></div><div><=
div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal" style=3D"background: white;"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D'color: black; font-family: "Helvetica", "sans-ser=
if"; font-size: 9pt;'>I am having similar issues wit the side trim below th=
e side windows.&nbsp; I bought the trim clips and rivits listed....no way I=
 can figure out how to make them work.&nbsp; My top had plastic clips on it=
 but they rotted and cracked.</span></div></div><div id=3D"yiv1782450680yui=
_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8351"><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal" st=
yle=3D"background: white;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D'color: black; font=
-family: "Helvetica", "sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt;'>&nbsp;</span></div></d=
iv><div id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8352"><div class=
=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal" style=3D"background: white;"><span lang=3D"EN-G=
B" style=3D'color: black; font-family: "Helvetica", "sans-serif"; font-size=
: 9pt;'>Chad in Tulsa</span></div></div><div id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_=
ym18_1_1458563501992_8353"><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal" style=3D"b=
ackground: white;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D'color: black; font-family:=
 "Helvetica", "sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt;'>71 Stag.</span></div></div><di=
v id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8334"><div class=3D"yi=
v1782450680MsoNormal" style=3D"background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D'color: black; font-family: "Helvetica", "sans-se=
rif"; font-size: 9pt;'> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div id=3D"yiv1782450680yu=
i_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8362"><div id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18=
_1_1458563501992_8361"><div id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501=
992_8360"><div id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8359"><di=
v align=3D"center" class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal" style=3D"background: wh=
ite; text-align: center;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D'color: black; font-=
family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'><hr width=3D"100%" size=3D=
"1" align=3D"center"></span></div><div class=3D"yiv1782450680MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"background: white;"><b id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_145856350=
1992_8357"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D'color: black; font-family: "Arial"=
, "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-GB" styl=
e=3D'color: black; font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'> P=
atrick Baize &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triumphs@a=
utox.team.net</a> <br><b id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992=
_8364">Sent:</b> Sunday, March 20, 2016 6:44 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] Sta=
g hardtop trim question</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D'color: black; f=
ont-family: "Helvetica", "sans-serif";'></span></div></div><div id=3D"yiv17=
82450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8365"><div class=3D"yiv1782450680Ms=
oNormal" style=3D"background: white;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D'color: =
black; font-family: "Helvetica", "sans-serif";'><br>was there a difference =
in clips that held the lower rear trim in place <br>between a Mk1 and 2?<br=
><br>I bought the clip kit,&nbsp; and it uses&nbsp; 1/8&nbsp; rivots, but t=
he holes in the <br>top are twice as large.<br><br>Pat<br>71 Stag</span></d=
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Chad,

Yes, I have seen the plastic clips attaching the side brightwork.  May =
have been when the top was re-painted, from previous work.=20

=20

I had two Stags built within a few months of each other, I pulled the =
trims off the hard top for repainting,  one had plastic and one had =
metal. =20

=20

I think the plastic clips do a better job of not piercing the paint =
where pop-rivets pierce the paint and allow corrosion to set in. But the =
metal clips do a better job holding the trims.

=20

BTW, did you get another Stag to replace your Mimosa one you sold?

=20

Glenn Merrell =20

aka StagByTriumph Garage (now on FaceBook)

Remember, =E2=80=9Cthe BEST trophies are: Miles on the Odometer; Stone =
chips in the paint; and DEAD BUGS on the windscreen =E2=80=A6 with the =
occasional smell of manure!=E2=80=9D

=20

=20

From: Chad [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 12:05 PM
To: [email-masked]; 'John Macartney'; =
[email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Stag hardtop trim question

=20

Glenn-

=20

My trims under the window (813775/6) had plastic clips.  I am trying to =
source replacements as I will have drill holes to pop-rivet the little =
metal clips in place and I don't want to put more holes in the metal.

=20

Thanks,

=20

Chad jester

=20

  _____ =20

From: "[email-masked]" =
<[email-masked]>
To: 'John Macartney' <[email-masked]>; =
[email-masked]=20
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TR] Stag hardtop trim question

=20

John,

Do you mean StagByTriumph Garage operated by Glenn Merrell, aka =
StagByTriumph?

Maybe.

Here is the scoop:

First there are several types of clips and fittings.  Some suppliers get =
it wrong with their =E2=80=9Ckits=E2=80=9D, combining the wrong parts or =
not asking the customer the correct questions first.

Another factor is of course the Dreaded Previous Mechanic, Dreaded =
Previous Owner, Dreaded Previous Dealer who may have changed or applied =
the incorrect parts in a repair.

=20

The hardtop upper brightwork  trim812219  original plastic clips 625953 =
are a two part system. Some hardtops have had these replaced with metal =
clips and pop rivets.  Going to metal created  problems as it deformed =
the trim and nicked the paintwork metal and allowed corrosion and rust =
to quickly set in.

http://www.ldpart.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=3Dviewproduct =
<http://www.ldpart.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=3Dviewproduct&pid=3D239&cat=3D53=
&maincat=3D9&start=3D0&sid=3Dsid25d6421f0fba01e2271bf48408436403> =
&pid=3D239&cat=3D53&maincat=3D9&start=3D0&sid=3Dsid25d6421f0fba01e2271bf4=
8408436403

1.       There is a plastic plug with a hole in the center that gets =
pushed into the drilled hole in the metal.

2.       The second part is the tabbed plastic  with a plastic round =
post to match with the hole plug

The tabbed portion  is twisted into the metal trim piece.  These allow =
the tabbed piece to be slid to position with the plug. =20

=20

The other trim pieces 813775/6 at the windows are metal clips 630881 for =
the sides;  There are two different size holes for these clips.  It is =
not like BL produced a hundred thousand Hard Tops for Stags, but they =
did build many other models and marques using the same trims and clips.

http://www.ldpart.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=3Dviewproduct =
<http://www.ldpart.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=3Dviewproduct&pid=3D586&cat=3D53=
&maincat=3D9&start=3D0&sid=3Dsid25d6421f0fba01e2271bf48408436403> =
&pid=3D586&cat=3D53&maincat=3D9&start=3D0&sid=3Dsid25d6421f0fba01e2271bf4=
8408436403

Note there should also be a plastic gasket 622663  & 623720 under the =
edge of the hardtop metal edge that was once held in place by the trim =
clips holding the brightwork below the hard top side and rear windows.  =
This plastic =E2=80=9CJ=E2=80=9D shaped strip trapped water and caused =
the hardtop edge under the rear windows to rot =E2=80=93 there was a =
rolled seam there.

=20

I will guess that supplier of the clips for that kit did not ask which =
size holes =E2=80=93 typically 7/64=E2=80=9D for the side brightwork, or =
the picker grabbed the wrong pop rivets.

=20

This is why I recommend LDPart.co.uk for things like this on Stags.  =
Peter Howells knows the subtle differences and pays careful attention to =
these details.

=20

In North America, if you have a good parts counter person at a good =
parts supplier such as NAPA, they will grab the clips catalogue and a =
caliper if they cannot locate it in their extensive database online and =
find the exact clip you need.  The various coachwork companies used =
standard brightwork trim and clips across many auto manufacturers, =
certainly since GM and Ford both owned manufacturing and assembly plants =
in the UK producing vehicles like Vauxhall, Reliant, Cortina, Capri, JLR =
etc using the same dimension trims and clips from those eras.

=20

For any clip for any LBC, Check the UK company Bresco,  =
http://www.bresco.com/ =E2=80=93 chances are they got clips to fit any =
trim on any of your LBC=E2=80=99s, just be exact on your measurements =
because clips can look the same but be different in a dimension by a =
fraction of an inch or mm.  They have the plastic two piece hardtop =
system as used on Jaguars / BL / Rover Triumph, and the metal clip =
pieces for the other areas on the vehicle for the attaching the =
brightwork.  Pop rivets, buy those at your local hardware store.

=20

Cheers!

=20

Glenn Merrell =20

aka StagByTriumph Garage (now on FaceBook)

Remember, =E2=80=9Cthe BEST trophies are: Miles on the Odometer; Stone =
chips in the paint; and DEAD BUGS on the windscreen =E2=80=A6 with the =
occasional smell of manure!=E2=80=9D

=20

=20

=20

From: John Macartney [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 6:55 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: FW: [TR] Stag hardtop trim question

=20

One for The Stag Garage perhaps? J Maybe a BFH and a box of nails?

=20

J

=20

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Chad
Sent: 21 March 2016 12:43
To: Patrick Baize <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Stag hardtop trim question

=20

I am having similar issues wit the side trim below the side windows.  I =
bought the trim clips and rivits listed....no way I can figure out how =
to make them work.  My top had plastic clips on it but they rotted and =
cracked.

=20

Chad in Tulsa

71 Stag.

=20

  _____ =20

From: Patrick Baize <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]=20
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 6:44 PM
Subject: [TR] Stag hardtop trim question

I bought the clip kit,  and it uses  1/8  rivots, but the holes in the=20
top are twice as large.

Pat
71 Stag

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Chad,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Yes, I have seen the plastic clips attaching the side =
brightwork.=C2=A0 May have been when the top was re-painted, from =
previous work. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> I had two Stags built within a few months of each other, I pulled =
the trims off the hard top for repainting, =C2=A0one had plastic and one =
had metal.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I think the plastic clips do a better job of not piercing the paint =
where pop-rivets pierce the paint and allow corrosion to set in. But the =
metal clips do a better job holding the trims.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>BTW, did you get another Stag to replace your Mimosa one you =
sold?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Glenn Merrell=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>aka StagByTriumph Garage (<i>now on =
FaceBook</i>)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Remember, =E2=80=9Cthe BEST trophies are: Miles on the Odometer; =
Stone chips in the paint; and DEAD BUGS on the windscreen =E2=80=A6 with =
the occasional smell of manure!=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Chad [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 21, =
2016 12:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; 'John =
Macartney'; [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Stag =
hardtop trim question<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10096"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>Glenn-<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10095"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10097"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>My trims under the window (813775/6) had plastic clips.&nbsp; I am =
trying to source replacements as I will have drill holes to pop-rivet =
the little metal clips in place and I don't want to put more holes in =
the metal.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10129"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>Chad jester<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10094"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10073"><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10072"><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10071"><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10093"><div class=3DMsoNormal =
align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
hr size=3D1 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter></span></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>F=
rom:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> =
&quot;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">StagByTriumph@triumphst=
agclub.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">StagByTriumph@triumphst=
agclub.org</a>&gt;<br><b>To:</b> 'John Macartney' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt;; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 21, 2016 12:40 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[TR] Stag hardtop trim question</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10070"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv1782450680><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10076"><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10075"><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10074"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>John,</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10087"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Do you mean StagByTriumph Garage operated by Glenn Merrell, aka =
StagByTriumph?</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10092"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Maybe.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10130"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Here is the scoop:</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10078"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>First there are several types of clips and fittings.&nbsp; Some =
suppliers get it wrong with their =E2=80=9Ckits=E2=80=9D, combining the =
wrong parts or not asking the customer the correct questions =
first.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10132"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Another factor is of course the Dreaded Previous Mechanic, Dreaded =
Previous Owner, Dreaded Previous Dealer who may have changed or applied =
the incorrect parts in a repair.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10079"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>The hardtop upper brightwork &nbsp;trim812219 &nbsp;original plastic =
clips 625953 are a two part system. Some hardtops have had these =
replaced with metal clips and pop rivets.&nbsp; Going to metal created =
&nbsp;problems as it deformed the trim and nicked the paintwork metal =
and allowed corrosion and rust to quickly set in.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10090"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><a =
href=3D"http://www.ldpart.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=3Dviewproduct&amp;pid=3D2=
39&amp;cat=3D53&amp;maincat=3D9&amp;start=3D0&amp;sid=3Dsid25d6421f0fba01=
e2271bf48408436403">http://www.ldpart.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=3Dviewproduct=
&amp;pid=3D239&amp;cat=3D53&amp;maincat=3D9&amp;start=3D0&amp;sid=3Dsid25=
d6421f0fba01e2271bf48408436403</a></span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>1.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>There is a plastic plug with a hole in the center that gets pushed =
into the drilled hole in the metal.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>2.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>The second part is the tabbed plastic &nbsp;with a plastic round post =
to match with the hole plug</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>The tabbed portion &nbsp;is twisted into the metal trim piece.&nbsp; =
These allow the tabbed piece to be slid to position with the plug.&nbsp; =
</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10085"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>The other trim pieces 813775/6 at the windows are metal clips 630881 =
for the sides;&nbsp; There are two different size holes for these =
clips.&nbsp; It is not like BL produced a hundred thousand Hard Tops for =
Stags, but they did build many other models and marques using the same =
trims and clips.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10083"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><a =
href=3D"http://www.ldpart.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=3Dviewproduct&amp;pid=3D5=
86&amp;cat=3D53&amp;maincat=3D9&amp;start=3D0&amp;sid=3Dsid25d6421f0fba01=
e2271bf48408436403">http://www.ldpart.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=3Dviewproduct=
&amp;pid=3D586&amp;cat=3D53&amp;maincat=3D9&amp;start=3D0&amp;sid=3Dsid25=
d6421f0fba01e2271bf48408436403</a></span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10081"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Note there should also be a plastic gasket 622663 &nbsp;&amp; 623720 =
under the edge of the hardtop metal edge that was once held in place by =
the trim clips holding the brightwork below the hard top side and rear =
windows.&nbsp; This plastic =E2=80=9CJ=E2=80=9D shaped strip trapped =
water and caused the hardtop edge under the rear windows to rot =
=E2=80=93 there was a rolled seam there.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I will guess that supplier of the clips for that kit did not ask =
which size holes =E2=80=93 typically 7/64=E2=80=9D for the side =
brightwork, or the picker grabbed the wrong pop rivets.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>This is why I recommend LDPart.co.uk for things like this on =
Stags.&nbsp; Peter Howells knows the subtle differences and pays careful =
attention to these details.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>In North America, if you have a good parts counter person at a good =
parts supplier such as NAPA, they will grab the clips catalogue and a =
caliper if they cannot locate it in their extensive database online and =
find the exact clip you need.&nbsp; The various coachwork companies used =
standard brightwork trim and clips across many auto manufacturers, =
certainly since GM and Ford both owned manufacturing and assembly plants =
in the UK producing vehicles like Vauxhall, Reliant, Cortina, Capri, JLR =
etc using the same dimension trims and clips from those =
eras.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458579037256_10088"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>For any clip for any LBC, Check the UK company Bresco, &nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://www.bresco.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.bresco.com/</a> =E2=80=93 chances are they =
got clips to fit any trim on any of your LBC=E2=80=99s, just be exact on =
your measurements because clips can look the same but be different in a =
dimension by a fraction of an inch or mm.&nbsp; They have the plastic =
two piece hardtop system as used on Jaguars / BL / Rover Triumph, and =
the metal clip pieces for the other areas on the vehicle for the =
attaching the brightwork.&nbsp; Pop rivets, buy those at your local =
hardware store.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Cheers!</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Glenn Merrell&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>aka StagByTriumph Garage (<i>now on FaceBook</i>)</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Remember, =E2=80=9Cthe BEST trophies are: Miles on the Odometer; =
Stone chips in the paint; and DEAD BUGS on the windscreen =E2=80=A6 with =
the occasional smell of manure!=E2=80=9D</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentColor =
currentColor'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
 John Macartney [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:john.macartney@ukpips=
.org.uk</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 21, 2016 6:55 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">controls@freelanceconsul=
ting.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> FW: [TR] Stag hardtop trim =
question</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o=
:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>One for The Stag Garage perhaps? </span><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><s=
pan lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> Maybe a BFH and a box of nails?</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>J</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentColor =
currentColor'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
> Triumphs [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On =
Behalf Of </b>Chad<br><b>Sent:</b> 21 March 2016 12:43<br><b>To:</b> =
Patrick Baize &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[TR] Stag hardtop trim question</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;</span><=
span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>I am having similar issues wit the side trim below the side =
windows.&nbsp; I bought the trim clips and rivits listed....no way I can =
figure out how to make them work.&nbsp; My top had plastic clips on it =
but they rotted and cracked.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8351"><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8352"><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>Chad in Tulsa</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8353"><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>71 Stag.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8334"><div =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8362"><div =
id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8361"><div =
id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8360"><div =
id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8359"><div =
class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center;background:white'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
hr size=3D1 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter></span></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><b =
id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8357"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>F=
rom:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> =
Patrick Baize &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> <br><b =
id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8364">Sent:</b> =
Sunday, March 20, 2016 6:44 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] Stag hardtop trim =
question</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"yiv1782450680yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458563501992_8365"><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>was there =
a difference in clips that held the lower rear trim in place <br>between =
a Mk1 and 2?<br><br>I bought the clip kit,&nbsp; and it uses&nbsp; =
1/8&nbsp; rivots, but the holes in the <br>top are twice as =
large.<br><br>Pat<br>71 Stag</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3Dyiv1782450680yqtfd35775><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br></span=
><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div=
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