Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A engine and clutch

From: Steven Dennis <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 00:42:05 +0000 (UTC)

--===============0149163730159706668==
	boundary="----=_Part_7172393_198158774.1455928925309"

------=_Part_7172393_198158774.1455928925309
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The arrow is a TDC mark that should line up with a mark on the block.

      From: Dean Tetterton <[email-masked]>
 To: Andrew Uprichard <[email-masked]>=20
Cc: [email-masked]
 Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 3:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A engine and clutch
  =20
Don't forget that the front engine plate is different. Motor mount location=
changed because of the change in frame width.
Dean

On Feb 19, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote:

So the engine I am building for the next TR3 is a TR4A engine.=C2=A0 Easy e=
nough to remove the plug and use the TR3 engine breather, but of course the=
 flywheel is different and I need to get a new TR4A clutch. =C2=A0Questions=
:=C2=A0 is there a throw-out bearing sleeve specific to the TR4A? =C2=A0Wil=
l a late TR3 starter work with the TR4A flywheel?=C2=A0 =C2=A0Is there anyt=
hing else I need to be aware of as I move along?

By the way, just as an aside, why do flywheels have an arrow on the side, p=
ointing towards the teeth? =C2=A0Andrew Uprichard
**=C2=[email-masked]=C2=A0**

Donate:=C2=A0http://www.team.net/donate.html
Archive:=C2=A0http://www.team.net/archive
Forums:=C2=A0http://www.team.net/forums
[email-masked]

** [email-masked] **

Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
[email-masked]

------=_Part_7172393_198158774.1455928925309
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f=
ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div dir=3D"ltr">The arrow is a TDC mark that sh=
ould line up with a mark on the block.<br></div><div><span></span></div><di=
v id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1455835464819_41238" class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br><=
/div><div style=3D"display: block;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1455835464819_41242"=
 class=3D"yahoo_quoted">  <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1455835464819_41241" styl=
e=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida G=
rande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1455835464819=
_41240" style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Ari=
al, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
455835464819_41239" dir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <hr size=
=3D"1"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Dean Tetterto=
n &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:<=
/span></b> Andrew Uprichard &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b><span s=
tyle=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> [email-masked]<br> <b><=
span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, February 19, 201=
6 3:12 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:=
 [TR] TR4A engine and clutch<br> </font> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_145=
5835464819_41243" class=3D"y_msg_container"><br><div id=3D"yiv1686662890"><=
base><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1455835464819_41359">Don't forget that the fro=
nt engine plate is different. Motor mount location<div>changed because of t=
he change in frame width.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1455835464819_41360"=
><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Dean</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1455835464=
819_41361"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1455835464819_4=
1362"><br clear=3D"none"><div><div class=3D"yiv1686662890yqt7389708915" id=
=3D"yiv1686662890yqt15728"><div>On Feb 19, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Andrew Upricha=
rd wrote:</div><br class=3D"yiv1686662890Apple-interchange-newline" clear=
=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"yiv1686662890Apple-style=
-span" style=3D"border-collapse:separate;font-family:'Arial Black';font-sty=
le:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line=
-height:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:no=
rmal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium;"></span><div lang=3D"EN-US=
"><div class=3D"yiv1686662890WordSection1" style=3D""><div style=3D"margin-=
top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:1=
1pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">So the engine I am building for the n=
ext TR3 is a TR4A engine.&nbsp; Easy enough to remove the plug and use the =
TR3 engine breather, but of course the flywheel is different and I need to =
get a new TR4A clutch.</div><div style=3D"margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;m=
argin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, s=
ans-serif;"> &nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;marg=
in-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans=
-serif;">Questions:&nbsp; is there a throw-out bearing sleeve specific to t=
he TR4A? &nbsp;Will a late TR3 starter work with the TR4A flywheel?&nbsp; &=
nbsp;Is there anything else I need to be aware of as I move along?<br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">By the way, just as an aside, why do flywheels=
 have an arrow on the side, pointing towards the teeth?</div><div style=3D"=
margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font=
-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</div><div style=3D"mar=
gin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;">Andrew Uprichard</div></div><br c=
lear=3D"none">**<span class=3D"yiv1686662890Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</=
span><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
am.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"=
color:blue;text-decoration:underline;">[email-masked]</a><span cla=
ss=3D"yiv1686662890Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>**<br clear=3D"none"=
><br clear=3D"none">Donate:<span class=3D"yiv1686662890Apple-converted-spac=
e">&nbsp;</span><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:un=
derline;">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear=3D"none">Archive:<sp=
an class=3D"yiv1686662890Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a rel=3D"nofo=
llow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.team.net/archive"=
 style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:underline;">http://www.team.net/archiv=
e</a><br clear=3D"none">Forums:<span class=3D"yiv1686662890Apple-converted-=
space">&nbsp;</span><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" hr=
ef=3D"http://www.team.net/forums" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:under=
line;">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br clear=3D"none">Unsubscribe/Manage:=
<span class=3D"yiv1686662890Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a rel=3D"n=
ofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mai=
lman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]" style=3D"color:blue;text-decorati=
on:underline;">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3a58@verizo=
n.net</a><br clear=3D"none"></div></blockquote></div></div><br clear=3D"non=
e"></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"yqt7389708915" id=3D"yqt16284"><br c=
lear=3D"none">** <a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> **<b=
r clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Donate: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http:=
//www.team.net/donate.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.ht=
ml</a><br clear=3D"none">Archive: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.team=
.net/archive" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br clear=3D=
"none">Forums: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.team.net/forums" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br clear=3D"none">Unsubscribe/Ma=
nage: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/trium=
phs/[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/=
options/triumphs/[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><br><br>=
</div> </div> </div>  </div></div></body></html>
------=_Part_7172393_198158774.1455928925309--

--===============0149163730159706668==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

** [email-masked] **

Archive: http://www.team.net/archive

--===============0149163730159706668==--

---

From: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 14:01:41 +0000 (UTC)

Starters from TR3 TS 50000 on through the 4A, according to the Moss catalogue, are the same.  This is true for original and hi-torque starters.  That would seem to be when Triumph made the switch from shrink on to bolt on flywheel ring gears.  

Terry Smith, '59 TR3A  TS 58667
New Hampshire

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Dennis" <[email-masked]>
To: "Dean Tetterton" <[email-masked]>, "Andrew Uprichard" <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 7:42:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A engine and clutch

To: Andrew Uprichard <[email-masked]> 

Don't forget that the front engine plate is different. Motor mount location 
changed because of the change in frame width. 

Dean 

So the engine I am building for the next TR3 is a TR4A engine. Easy enough to remove the plug and use the TR3 engine breather, but of course the flywheel is different and I need to get a new TR4A clutch. 
Questions: is there a throw-out bearing sleeve specific to the TR4A? Will a late TR3 starter work with the TR4A flywheel? Is there anything else I need to be aware of as I move along? 

By the way, just as an aside, why do flywheels have an arrow on the side, pointing towards the teeth? 
Andrew Uprichard