Subject: [TR] TR3A flywheel bolt on ring gear

From: William Brewer <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 19:56:31 +0000 (UTC)

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Hi Terry,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Once I took my rusty TR3A starter apart a=
nd cleans everything up and lubed it. I put it in the car and the starter j=
ust whirred away without cranking the engine. ISTR that I pulled the starte=
r and discovered that I had installed something in the wrong order on the s=
tarter shaft and the starter gear didn't pop out and engage. I put it back =
together right and it worked fine afterwards. Did you take apart your start=
er while it was out?

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -Bill Brewer=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Tehachapi, CA

Question:=C2=A0 were there different gear ratios on the ring gear?=C2=A0 Re=
ason I ask, while I had the OD tranny out, I replaced the flywheel with a f=
reshly machined one.=C2=A0 It had a somewhat better condition ring gear alr=
eady bolted on.=C2=A0 I don't know the year of production of the replacemen=
t flywheel.=C2=A0 Bolted the same starter back in, but when I try to start =
the engine, the starter clicks and whirrs, but doesn't engage. Jumped it wi=
th a good battery, seems to be a strong electrical current going in.=C2=A0 =
Engine turns freely by hand even with the spark plugs still in.

Thoughts?

Terry Smith, '59 TR3A=C2=A0 TS 58667
New Hampshire where in a two day period it went from minus 20 degrees to in=
 the 50's.=C2=A0 Gotta love New England!

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 rusty TR3A starter apart and cleans everything up and lubed it. I put it i=
n the car and the starter just whirred away without cranking the engine. IS=
TR that I pulled the starter and discovered that I had installed something =
in the wrong order on the starter shaft and the starter gear didn't pop out=
 and engage. I put it back together right and it worked fine afterwards. Di=
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freshly machined one.&nbsp; It had a somewhat better condition ring gear=20
already bolted on.&nbsp; I don't know the year of production of the=20
replacement flywheel.&nbsp; Bolted the same starter back in, but when I try=
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to start the engine, the starter clicks and whirrs, but doesn't engage.=20
Jumped it with a good battery, seems to be a strong electrical current=20
going in.&nbsp; Engine turns freely by hand even with the spark plugs still=
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in.<br><br>Thoughts?<br><br>Terry Smith, '59 TR3A&nbsp; TS 58667<br>New Ham=
pshire where in a two day period it went from minus 20 degrees to in the 50=
's.&nbsp; Gotta love New England!<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></=
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From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 22:45:23 +0000 (UTC)

Hi, Bill.  Nope, didn't take the starter apart.  It worked fine before I changed the ring gear and flywheel assembly.  In fact, I'd had it rebuilt last year.  Am wondering if I have a mismatch on the old gear reduction starter and the replaced ring gear.  

I'll pull it this weekend.  Is it possible to install these upside down?  Not that I would of course.  That would be stoooopid.  I have never been that.  Well, once, maybe.  Maybe twice.  Maybe twice a year, or was it day, or what was it I did wrong twice in the past ten minutes??????

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From: "William Brewer" <[email-masked]>
To: "Triumphs List" <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 2:56:31 PM
Subject: TR3A flywheel bolt on ring gear

Hi Terry,     Once I took my rusty TR3A starter apart and cleans everything up and lubed it. I put it in the car and the starter just whirred away without cranking the engine. ISTR that I pulled the starter and discovered that I had installed something in the wrong order on the starter shaft and the starter gear didn't pop out and engage. I put it back together right and it worked fine afterwards. Did you take apart your starter while it was out?

     -Bill Brewer     Tehachapi, CA

Question:  were there different gear ratios on the ring gear?  Reason I ask, while I had the OD tranny out, I replaced the flywheel with a freshly machined one.  It had a somewhat better condition ring gear already bolted on.  I don't know the year of production of the replacement flywheel.  Bolted the same starter back in, but when I try to start the engine, the starter clicks and whirrs, but doesn't engage. Jumped it with a good battery, seems to be a strong electrical current going in.  Engine turns freely by hand even with the spark plugs still in.

Thoughts?

Terry Smith, '59 TR3A  TS 58667
New Hampshire where in a two day period it went from minus 20 degrees to in the 50's.  Gotta love New England!

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