Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 9, Issue 4

From: JOSEPH MATO <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 03:12:13 +0000 (UTC)

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TR 3 stone guards For the last 2 years I have been immersed in trying to ma=
ke myself into a reasonable facsimile of a British panelbeater. These alumi=
num panels would be a good beginners project. To make them you would make p=
atterns to cut the metal to and contour patterns to get the right amount of=
 curve in the panel. The panel is shaped with a wood mallet and sandbag the=
n planished or smoothed out =C2=A0either by hand or on an English wheel. I =
guess .050 or .063 metal would work. If you interested you can go to youtub=
e to pick up basic skills working with a hammer and dolly. Sounds like a fu=
n project!

    On Thursday, January 7, 2016 2:28 PM, "[email-masked]"=
 <[email-masked]> wrote:
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=C2=A0 1. Re: Loctite (Lee Janssen)
=C2=A0 2. Re: Loctite (Randall)
=C2=A0 3. TR3 stone guards (Andrew Uprichard)
=C2=A0 4. Re: TR3 stone guards (Joe Curry)
=C2=A0 5. WTB a TR-3 (Kerry G Stanley)
=C2=A0 6. Re: TR3 stone guards (Randall)
=C2=A0 7. Re: WTB a TR-3 (davehogye)
=C2=A0 8. Re: TR3 stone guards (Bill Hall)
=C2=A0 9. Re: WTB a TR-3 ([email-masked])
=C2=A0 10. Re: TR3 stone guards (davehogye)
=C2=A0 11. Re: TR3 stone guards (David Friedlander)
=C2=A0 12. Re: TR3 stone guards (Jonas Payne)
=C2=A0 13. Re: WTB a TR-3 (Alex&Janet Thomson)
=C2=A0 14. Re: rear brake pipes routing (davehogye)
=C2=A0 15. Re: WTB a TR-3 (davehogye)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 13:00:54 -0700
From: Lee Janssen <[email-masked]>
To: triumphs <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Loctite
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CAA90-ECcrGrnEw7C+mkhqCBma2-DqpzOkoEbjV9ZBLGu4JsVcA@mai=
l.gmail.com>

The Loctite website for threadlocker red (271) "It is only removable once
cured by heating up parts to 500 F".
Which is udder rubbish. I use it quite a bit and have never had to heat
parts to remove them. I have found that it is stronger the loctite blue
(242) but not by a whole heck of a lot. In theory a thorough cleaning
should improve performance; however, I haven't noticed any great
improvement. When in doubt I always use a NEW distorted / deformed lock nut=
.

Enjoy
Lee Janssen
Denver CO
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 13:46:21 -0800
From: "Randall" <[email-masked]>
To: "'triumphs'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Loctite

> I have found that it is=20
> stronger the loctite blue (242) but not by a whole heck of a=20
> lot.=20

The specs vary all over the place, depending on things like whether the thr=
eads are cad plated or not.=C2=A0 But if you dig in to the
TDS, the maximum difference (for an unplated 3/8" NC bolt) is only about 12=
 ft-lb:

http://www.loctiteproducts.com/tds/T_LKR_BLUE_tds.pdf
https://tds.us.henkel.com/NA/UT/HNAUTTDS.nsf/web/B25C9259A14B047E8825718700=
00D61E/$File/271-EN.pdf

The difference becomes even smaller if you take into account the long term =
performance of 271 (red) vs 243 ("oil resistant" blue)
under both exposure to oil (271 loses 25% of its strength over 1000 hours; =
243 actually gains about 15%); and operation at 100C (a
typical engine temperature) where again 271 loses strength and 243 does not=
.
https://tds.us.henkel.com/NA/UT/HNAUTTDS.nsf/web/96FA02BC2AE06C5E85257E4900=
4D92EA/$File/243-EN.pdf

243 is also supposedly more tolerant of minor contamination of the threads.=
=C2=A0 Since no one will ever mistake my garage for a clean
room, that seems like a big plus to me.

-- Randall=C2=A0=20

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 18:24:31 -0500
From: "Andrew Uprichard" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: [TR] TR3 stone guards

I don't know about others, but my experience with the aftermarket TR3 stone
guards (especially the large ones which fit over the rear fenders) has been
very disappointing.=C2=A0 Badly made and frustratingly hard to fit.=C2=A0 S=
o when I
started the latest restoration on a CA car with minimal rust (lots of other
problems, but rust wasn't one of them !) I decided I would try to salvage
the stone guards.=C2=A0 They were heavily pitted and dented and I thought I=
 was
wasting my time, but I started off hammering out the dents and then I used =
a
grinder to level all the pits and scratches.=C2=A0 I followed with 80 grit,=
 then
150, 320 and 600.=C2=A0 Then aluminum polish and finally a good waxing.=C2=
=A0 I have
to say, the end result was really good - and they fit !

=20

Having said that, I guess I spent most of a day on the 2 large guards, so
this approach would make little sense for a restoration shop or someone
charging by the hour.=C2=A0 But for someone like me with time on my side, I=
 saved
$100 not buying new and I now have guards which will fit.

=20

I learned a lot from an older guy in a restoration shop who routinely threw
out the old and replaced with new.=C2=A0 Maybe there was a day when "new" r=
eally
was better, but the more of these cars I do (and I am now on number 13) the
more I try to keep whatever I can and only replace where absolutely
necessary.

=20

Just my 2 cents....

=20

Andrew Uprichard

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 16:46:04 -0700
From: "Joe Curry" <[email-masked]>
To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" <[email-masked]>,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 stone guards
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <20160106234601.YGRW22785.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmim=
po109>

After reading your post, I find myself wondering why you could not fabricat=
e
some out of sheet aluminum.

=20

Joe

=20

=20

=C2=A0 _____=C2=A0=20

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Andrew
Uprichard
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 4:25 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] TR3 stone guards

=20

I don't know about others, but my experience with the aftermarket TR3 stone
guards (especially the large ones which fit over the rear fenders) has been
very disappointing.=C2=A0 Badly made and frustratingly hard to fit.=C2=A0 S=
o when I
started the latest restoration on a CA car with minimal rust (lots of other
problems, but rust wasn't one of them !) I decided I would try to salvage
the stone guards.=C2=A0 They were heavily pitted and dented and I thought I=
 was
wasting my time, but I started off hammering out the dents and then I used =
a
grinder to level all the pits and scratches.=C2=A0 I followed with 80 grit,=
 then
150, 320 and 600.=C2=A0 Then aluminum polish and finally a good waxing.=C2=
=A0 I have
to say, the end result was really good - and they fit !

=20

Having said that, I guess I spent most of a day on the 2 large guards, so
this approach would make little sense for a restoration shop or someone
charging by the hour.=C2=A0 But for someone like me with time on my side, I=
 saved
$100 not buying new and I now have guards which will fit.

=20

I learned a lot from an older guy in a restoration shop who routinely threw
out the old and replaced with new.=C2=A0 Maybe there was a day when "new" r=
eally
was better, but the more of these cars I do (and I am now on number 13) the
more I try to keep whatever I can and only replace where absolutely
necessary.

=20

Just my 2 cents....

=20

Andrew Uprichard

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2016 20:35:41 -0500
From: Kerry G Stanley <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] WTB a TR-3

Hi all,

I recently joined the list, and have found it very useful already.=C2=A0 I =
owned a ?61 back in the ?70s and could kick myself for ever selling.=C2=A0 =
I am now in a hunt for project TR-3.=C2=A0 I?m expecting to do a full frame=
 off restoration - with a lot of learning along the way!!!=C2=A0 I live in =
the Richmond VA area, although I hear shipping cross country is not an insu=
rmountable problem.=C2=A0 If anyone has any l leads on a project just waiti=
ng for help please let me know.=C2=A0 I also joined the Richmond Triumph Re=
gister, the Triumph Experience forum and a couple others.=C2=A0 Great resou=
rces.

Thanks, take care.

Kerry

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 18:23:32 -0800
From: "Randall" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 stone guards

> After reading your post, I find myself wondering why you=20
> could not fabricate some out of sheet aluminum.

They have fairly deep compound curves, which might be tricky for someone wi=
th no experience beating aluminum (or using an English
wheel).

The new ones I got from TRF had the curves right, they just had a lot of ex=
tra metal around the edges that had to be trimmed away.

Randall

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 02:23:31 +0000 (UTC)
From: davehogye <[email-masked]>
To: Kerry G Stanley <[email-masked]>
Cc: "list, TR" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] WTB a TR-3
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <1338270890.19362171.1452133411915.JavaMail.zimbra@comca=
st.net>

Welcome aboard, Kerry.=20
I'm sure that you will get years of pleasure for your efforts involving ano=
ther Triumph. Especially a TR3.=20
Joining your local Triumph club and the TR list are the best places to star=
t.=20
I'll look forward to your inquiries and shared successes.=20

Dave H.=20
Santa Cruz, CA=20

----- Original Message -----

From: "Kerry G Stanley" <[email-masked]>=20
To: [email-masked]=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 5:35:41 PM=20
Subject: [TR] WTB a TR-3=20

Hi all,=20

I recently joined the list, and have found it very useful already. I owned =
a ?61 back in the ?70s and could kick myself for ever selling. I am now in =
a hunt for project TR-3. I?m expecting to do a full frame off restoration -=
 with a lot of learning along the way!!! I live in the Richmond VA area, al=
though I hear shipping cross country is not an insurmountable problem. If a=
nyone has any l leads on a project just waiting for help please let me know=
. I also joined the Richmond Triumph Register, the Triumph Experience forum=
 and a couple others. Great resources.=20

Thanks, take care.=20

Kerry=20

** [email-masked] **=20

Archive: http://www.team.net/archive=20
comcast.net=20

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 21:30:03 -0500
From: Bill Hall <[email-masked]>
To: Joe Curry <[email-masked]>
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 stone guards
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CAKQUVBLn_wY9PLd=3DXKQ7xKJmcKJ8G8WhMD4oLZjnw9YQ6ofgsw@m=
ail.gmail.com>

Personally, a day of work is well worth it considering the original is over
50 yeArs old...... Just saying!

On Wednesday, January 6, 2016, Joe Curry <[email-masked]> wrote:

> After reading your post, I find myself wondering why you could not
> fabricate some out of sheet aluminum.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>] *On
> Behalf Of *Andrew Uprichard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2016 4:25 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>
> *Subject:* [TR] TR3 stone guards
>
>
>
> I don?t know about others, but my experience with the aftermarket TR3
> stone guards (especially the large ones which fit over the rear fenders)
> has been very disappointing.=C2=A0 Badly made and frustratingly hard to f=
it.=C2=A0 So
> when I started the latest restoration on a CA car with minimal rust (lots
> of other problems, but rust wasn?t one of them !) I decided I would try t=
o
> salvage the stone guards.=C2=A0 They were heavily pitted and dented and I
> thought I was wasting my time, but I started off hammering out the dents
> and then I used a grinder to level all the pits and scratches.=C2=A0 I fo=
llowed
> with 80 grit, then 150, 320 and 600.=C2=A0 Then aluminum polish and final=
ly a
> good waxing.=C2=A0 I have to say, the end result was really good ? and th=
ey fit !
>
>
>
> Having said that, I guess I spent most of a day on the 2 large guards, so
> this approach would make little sense for a restoration shop or someone
> charging by the hour.=C2=A0 But for someone like me with time on my side,=
 I
> saved $100 not buying new and I now have guards which will fit.
>
>
>
> I learned a lot from an older guy in a restoration shop who routinely
> threw out the old and replaced with new.=C2=A0 Maybe there was a day when=
 ?new?
> really was better, but the more of these cars I do (and I am now on numbe=
r
> 13) the more I try to keep whatever I can and only replace where absolute=
ly
> necessary.
> Just my 2 cents??..
> Andrew Uprichard
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 20:42:43 -0600
From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
To: Kerry G Stanley <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] WTB a TR-3

Welcome to the list Terry,=20

Was your TR3 from the 70's red with a big stovepipe exhaust?=C2=A0 I lived =
in Richmond when I sold mine.=20

just remember it's much easier to ask dumb questions than fix dumb mistakes=
.=C2=A0 Projects are always coming along, good to know you are looking.=20

All the best,
Bill
TS30800L

Sent from my VIC-64

On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Kerry G Stanley <[email-masked]> wrote:

Hi all,

I recently joined the list, and have found it very useful already.=C2=A0 I =
owned a ?61 back in the ?70s and could kick myself for ever selling.=C2=A0 =
I am now in a hunt for project TR-3.=C2=A0 I?m expecting to do a full frame=
 off restoration - with a lot of learning along the way!!!=C2=A0 I live in =
the Richmond VA area, although I hear shipping cross country is not an insu=
rmountable problem.=C2=A0 If anyone has any l leads on a project just waiti=
ng for help please let me know.=C2=A0 I also joined the Richmond Triumph Re=
gister, the Triumph Experience forum and a couple others.=C2=A0 Great resou=
rces.

Thanks, take care.

Kerry

** [email-masked] **

Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
lash.net

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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 02:47:25 +0000 (UTC)
From: davehogye <[email-masked]>
To: Andrew Uprichard <[email-masked]>
Cc: "list, TR" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 stone guards
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <270178725.19374777.1452134845957.JavaMail.zimbra@comcas=
t.net>

Andrew,=20
You are right on about the stone guards. The repros don't fit anything like=
 the originals. I found that much trimming is needed, but I got mine to loo=
k factory by doing the necessary work.=20
Reusing original parts should definitely be considered.=20
In a matter of a few hundred miles, the new ones got all pitted and dented =
anyway. They look perfectly used now.=20
If it's going to be a trailer queen, by all means, make the repros work. Bu=
t protect them with layers of foam, because the slightest momentum past pus=
hing the car in the driveway will cause pits and dents.=20

Dave H.=20

From: "Andrew Uprichard" <[email-masked]>=20
To: [email-masked]=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 3:24:31 PM=20
Subject: [TR] TR3 stone guards=20

I don?t know about others, but my experience with the aftermarket TR3 stone=
 guards (especially the large ones which fit over the rear fenders) has bee=
n very disappointing. Badly made and frustratingly hard to fit. So when I s=
tarted the latest restoration on a CA car with minimal rust (lots of other =
problems, but rust wasn?t one of them !) I decided I would try to salvage t=
he stone guards. They were heavily pitted and dented and I thought I was wa=
sting my time, but I started off hammering out the dents and then I used a =
grinder to level all the pits and scratches. I followed with 80 grit, then =
150, 320 and 600. Then aluminum polish and finally a good waxing. I have to=
 say, the end result was really good ? and they fit !=20

Having said that, I guess I spent most of a day on the 2 large guards, so t=
his approach would make little sense for a restoration shop or someone char=
ging by the hour. But for someone like me with time on my side, I saved $10=
0 not buying new and I now have guards which will fit.=20

I learned a lot from an older guy in a restoration shop who routinely threw=
 out the old and replaced with new. Maybe there was a day when ?new? really=
 was better, but the more of these cars I do (and I am now on number 13) th=
e more I try to keep whatever I can and only replace where absolutely neces=
sary.=20

Just my 2 cents??..=20

Andrew Uprichard=20

** [email-masked] **=20

Archive: http://www.team.net/archive=20
comcast.net=20

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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 21:54:27 -0500
From: David Friedlander <[email-masked]>
To: Randall <[email-masked]>
Cc: TR3 Triumphs <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 stone guards
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CAJ1eQwiOw-ODkx2bBD02x9Oq-YWJ3siiQZdwFw-S9TnX-1QEwg@mai=
l.gmail.com>

I recently bought a set of stone guards from one of the Big Three and was
not impressed by the quality of what I received. To add to it, the prices
for these are pretty steep. The pieces I took off my '59 TR3 were deeply
pitted but were a heavier gauge aluminum than these new ones.... I suspect
they dent/deform far more easily than the stock pieces. Seems like these
are=C2=A0 good candidates for some fab shop to make in heavier gauge alumin=
um or
even stainless steel. At least then, I wouldn't mind spending the $$.

Dave

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Randall <[email-masked]> wrote:

>
> > After reading your post, I find myself wondering why you
> > could not fabricate some out of sheet aluminum.
>
> They have fairly deep compound curves, which might be tricky for someone
> with no experience beating aluminum (or using an English
> wheel).
>
> The new ones I got from TRF had the curves right, they just had a lot of
> extra metal around the edges that had to be trimmed away.
>
> Randall
>
>
> ** [email-masked] **
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 19:20:16 -0800
From: "Jonas Payne" <[email-masked]>
To: "'David Friedlander'" <[email-masked]>, "'Randall'"
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>
Cc: 'TR3 Triumphs' <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 stone guards

The ones I got from Moss were the same gauge, but required a significant am=
ount of trimming and fitting ? no BS, I had about 10 hours to do both sides=
 by the time I was done fitting them.=C2=A0=20

=20

I just assumed that my fenders were ?out of shape? from nearly 60 years of =
abuse and as near as I can tell 8 or 9 paint jobs, bodged rust repairs, etc=
. etc.??????.

=20

Jonas Payne

PBR Consulting Services, LLC

702.882.6711

=20

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of David =
Friedlander
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 6:54 PM
To: Randall <[email-masked]>
Cc: TR3 Triumphs <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 stone guards

=20

I recently bought a set of stone guards from one of the Big Three and was n=
ot impressed by the quality of what I received. To add to it, the prices fo=
r these are pretty steep. The pieces I took off my '59 TR3 were deeply pitt=
ed but were a heavier gauge aluminum than these new ones.... I suspect they=
 dent/deform far more easily than the stock pieces. Seems like these are=C2=
=A0 good candidates for some fab shop to make in heavier gauge aluminum or =
even stainless steel. At least then, I wouldn't mind spending the $$.

Dave

=20

[email-masked]> > wrote:

> After reading your post, I find myself wondering why you
> could not fabricate some out of sheet aluminum.

They have fairly deep compound curves, which might be tricky for someone wi=
th no experience beating aluminum (or using an English
wheel).

The new ones I got from TRF had the curves right, they just had a lot of ex=
tra metal around the edges that had to be trimmed away.

Randall

Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
@gmail.com

=20

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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 05:37:15 -0500
From: "Alex&Janet Thomson" <[email-masked]>
To: "'Kerry G Stanley'" <[email-masked]>,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] WTB a TR-3

=C2=A0 Kerry - This just came in from the Brits-on-the-Hudson.
Alex Thomson - Connecticut Triumph Register

 Just spotted this tr3 for sale on craigs list in Hyde park.=C2=A0 Haven't =
seen
it and don't know the seller, but he's looking for best offer and looks fro=
m
pictures like a good winter project.

https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/bfs/5380109115.html=20

Hi all,

I recently joined the list, and have found it very useful already.=C2=A0 I =
owned
a '61 back in the '70s and could kick myself for ever selling.=C2=A0 I am n=
ow in
a hunt for project TR-3.=C2=A0 I'm expecting to do a full frame off restora=
tion -
with a lot of learning along the way!!!=C2=A0 I live in the Richmond VA are=
a,
although I hear shipping cross country is not an insurmountable problem.=C2=
=A0 If
anyone has any l leads on a project just waiting for help please let me
know.=C2=A0 I also joined the Richmond Triumph Register, the Triumph Experi=
ence
forum and a couple others.=C2=A0 Great resources.

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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 15:38:24 +0000 (UTC)
From: davehogye <[email-masked]>
To: Andrew Uprichard <[email-masked]>
Cc: "list, TR" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] rear brake pipes routing
Message-ID:
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In front of the bumpers then back over to the cylinder is correct.=20
The chassis looks beautiful. Nice job.=20

Dave H.=20

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From: "Andrew Uprichard" <[email-masked]>=20
To: [email-masked]=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 9:03:25 AM=20
Subject: [TR] rear brake pipes routing=20

I just fitted new brake lines to a TR3 ? routed in front of the bump stop a=
nd leaf spring shackle (see pic). Someone told me the lines should be route=
d behind the axle, but I have always done it in front. Does anyone know who=
 is correct?=20

Andrew Uprichard=20

** [email-masked] **=20

Archive: http://www.team.net/archive=20
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 15:44:13 +0000 (UTC)
From: davehogye <[email-masked]>
To: Alex&Janet Thomson <[email-masked]>
Cc: "list, TR" <[email-masked]>, Kerry G Stanley
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] WTB a TR-3
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TR3Bs are the rarest of the TRs, because of the low production number.=20
It could have the 2138cc engine and fully synchronized trans.=20
This car looks worth checking on as a project.=20

Dave H.=20

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From: "Alex&Janet Thomson" <[email-masked]>=20
To: "Kerry G Stanley" <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]=20
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 2:37:15 AM=20
Subject: Re: [TR] WTB a TR-3=20

Kerry - This just came in from the Brits-on-the-Hudson.=20
Alex Thomson - Connecticut Triumph Register=20

Just spotted this tr3 for sale on craigs list in Hyde park. Haven't seen=20
it and don't know the seller, but he's looking for best offer and looks fro=
m=20
pictures like a good winter project.=20

https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/bfs/5380109115.html=20

Hi all,=20

I recently joined the list, and have found it very useful already. I owned=
=20
a '61 back in the '70s and could kick myself for ever selling. I am now in=
=20
a hunt for project TR-3. I'm expecting to do a full frame off restoration -=
=20
with a lot of learning along the way!!! I live in the Richmond VA area,=20
although I hear shipping cross country is not an insurmountable problem. If=
=20
anyone has any l leads on a project just waiting for help please let me=20
know. I also joined the Richmond Triumph Register, the Triumph Experience=
=20
forum and a couple others. Great resources.=20

** [email-masked] **=20

Archive: http://www.team.net/archive=20
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lying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br clear=3D"non=
e">than "Re: Contents of Triumphs digest..."<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D=
"none"><br clear=3D"none">Today's Topics:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"no=
ne">&nbsp;  1. Re: Loctite (Lee Janssen)<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;  2. Re: L=
octite (Randall)<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;  3. TR3 stone guards (Andrew Upri=
chard)<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;  4. Re: TR3 stone guards (Joe Curry)<br cle=
ar=3D"none">&nbsp;  5. WTB a TR-3 (Kerry G Stanley)<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp=
;  6. Re: TR3 stone guards (Randall)<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;  7. Re: WTB a=
 TR-3 (davehogye)<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;  8. Re: TR3 stone guards (Bill H=
all)<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;  9. Re: WTB a TR-3 (<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>)<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp; 10. Re=
: TR3 stone guards (davehogye)<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp; 11. Re: TR3 stone g=
uards (David Friedlander)<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp; 12. Re: TR3 stone guards=
 (Jonas Payne)<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp; 13. Re: WTB a TR-3 (Alex&amp;Janet =
Thomson)<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp; 14. Re: rear brake pipes routing (davehog=
ye)<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp; 15. Re: WTB a TR-3 (davehogye)<br clear=3D"non=
e"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">----------------------------------=
------------------------------------<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">M=
essage: 1<br clear=3D"none">Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 13:00:54 -0700<br clear=
=3D"none">From: Lee Janssen &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:lee.k.=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: tr=
iumphs &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:Triumphs@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Tri=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [TR] Loctite<br=
 clear=3D"none">Message-ID:<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CAA90-=
ECcrGrnEw7C+<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:mkhqCBma2-=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:mk=
[email-masked]">mkhqCBma2-DqpzOkoEbjV9ZBLGu=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Content-Type: text/plain; c=
harset=3D"utf-8"<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">The Loctite website f=
or threadlocker red (271) "It is only removable once<br clear=3D"none">cure=
d by heating up parts to 500 F".<br clear=3D"none">Which is udder rubbish. =
I use it quite a bit and have never had to heat<br clear=3D"none">parts to =
remove them. I have found that it is stronger the loctite blue<br clear=3D"=
none">(242) but not by a whole heck of a lot. In theory a thorough cleaning=
<br clear=3D"none">should improve performance; however, I haven't noticed a=
ny great<br clear=3D"none">improvement. When in doubt I always use a NEW di=
storted / deformed lock nut.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Enjoy<br =
clear=3D"none">Lee Janssen<br clear=3D"none">Denver CO<br clear=3D"none">--=
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=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Message: 2<br clear=3D"none">Date: Wed, 6 Jan =
2016 13:46:21 -0800<br clear=3D"none">From: "Randall" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollo=
w" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D=
"none">To: "'triumphs'" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:Triumphs@au=
tox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re=
: [TR] Loctite<br clear=3D"none">Message-ID: &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:61.E0.07770.B2B8D865@cdptpa-oedge03" target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"mailto:61.E0.07770.B2B8D865@cdptpa-oedge03">61.E0.07770.B2B=
8D865@cdptpa-oedge03</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Content-Type: text/plain;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><=
br clear=3D"none">&gt; I have found that it is <br clear=3D"none">&gt; stro=
nger the loctite blue (242) but not by a whole heck of a <br clear=3D"none"=
>&gt; lot. <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">The specs vary all over th=
e place, depending on things like whether the threads are cad plated or not=
.&nbsp; But if you dig in to the<br clear=3D"none">TDS, the maximum differe=
nce (for an unplated 3/8" NC bolt) is only about 12 ft-lb:<br clear=3D"none=
"><br clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" h=
ref=3D"http://www.loctiteproducts.com/tds/T_LKR_BLUE_tds.pdf">http://www.lo=
ctiteproducts.com/tds/T_LKR_BLUE_tds.pdf</a><br clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D"no=
follow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://tds.us.henkel.com/=
NA/UT/HNAUTTDS.nsf/web/B25C9259A14B047E882571870000D61E/$File/271-EN.pdf">h=
ttps://tds.us.henkel.com/NA/UT/HNAUTTDS.nsf/web/B25C9259A14B047E88257187000=
0D61E/$File/271-EN.pdf</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">The differe=
nce becomes even smaller if you take into account the long term performance=
 of 271 (red) vs 243 ("oil resistant" blue)<br clear=3D"none">under both ex=
posure to oil (271 loses 25% of its strength over 1000 hours; 243 actually =
gains about 15%); and operation at 100C (a<br clear=3D"none">typical engine=
 temperature) where again 271 loses strength and 243 does not.<br clear=3D"=
none"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://=
tds.us.henkel.com/NA/UT/HNAUTTDS.nsf/web/96FA02BC2AE06C5E85257E49004D92EA/$=
File/243-EN.pdf">https://tds.us.henkel.com/NA/UT/HNAUTTDS.nsf/web/96FA02BC2=
AE06C5E85257E49004D92EA/$File/243-EN.pdf</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D=
"none">243 is also supposedly more tolerant of minor contamination of the t=
hreads.&nbsp; Since no one will ever mistake my garage for a clean<br clear=
=3D"none">room, that seems like a big plus to me.<br clear=3D"none"><br cle=
ar=3D"none">-- Randall&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clea=
r=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">------------------------------<br clear=3D"no=
ne"><br clear=3D"none">Message: 3<br clear=3D"none">Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 1=
8:24:31 -0500<br clear=3D"none">From: "Andrew Uprichard" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofo=
llow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:triump=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Subjec=
t: [TR] TR3 stone guards<br clear=3D"none">Message-ID: &lt;011401d148d9$665=
[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Content-Type: text/plai=
n; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I don't know a=
bout others, but my experience with the aftermarket TR3 stone<br clear=3D"n=
one">guards (especially the large ones which fit over the rear fenders) has=
 been<br clear=3D"none">very disappointing.&nbsp; Badly made and frustratin=
gly hard to fit.&nbsp; So when I<br clear=3D"none">started the latest resto=
ration on a CA car with minimal rust (lots of other<br clear=3D"none">probl=
ems, but rust wasn't one of them !) I decided I would try to salvage<br cle=
ar=3D"none">the stone guards.&nbsp; They were heavily pitted and dented and=
 I thought I was<br clear=3D"none">wasting my time, but I started off hamme=
ring out the dents and then I used a<br clear=3D"none">grinder to level all=
 the pits and scratches.&nbsp; I followed with 80 grit, then<br clear=3D"no=
ne">150, 320 and 600.&nbsp; Then aluminum polish and finally a good waxing.=
&nbsp; I have<br clear=3D"none">to say, the end result was really good - an=
d they fit !<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><br c=
lear=3D"none">Having said that, I guess I spent most of a day on the 2 larg=
e guards, so<br clear=3D"none">this approach would make little sense for a =
restoration shop or someone<br clear=3D"none">charging by the hour.&nbsp; B=
ut for someone like me with time on my side, I saved<br clear=3D"none">$100=
 not buying new and I now have guards which will fit.<br clear=3D"none"><br=
 clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I learned a lot from=
 an older guy in a restoration shop who routinely threw<br clear=3D"none">o=
ut the old and replaced with new.&nbsp; Maybe there was a day when "new" re=
ally<br clear=3D"none">was better, but the more of these cars I do (and I a=
m now on number 13) the<br clear=3D"none">more I try to keep whatever I can=
 and only replace where absolutely<br clear=3D"none">necessary.<br clear=3D=
"none"><br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Just my 2 =
cents....<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><br clea=
r=3D"none">Andrew Uprichard<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">----------=
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<br clear=3D"none">Message: 4<br clear=3D"none">Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 16:46=
:04 -0700<br clear=3D"none">From: "Joe Curry" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: "'Andr=
ew Uprichard'" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:aup=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:auprichard@uprichar=
d.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt;,<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.=
team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triumph=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 stone guar=
ds<br clear=3D"none">Message-ID:<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<=
a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:20160106234601.YGRW2278=
5.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo109" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:201=
60106234601.YGRW22785.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo109">20160106234601.Y=
GRW22785.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo109</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Cont=
ent-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"n=
one">After reading your post, I find myself wondering why you could not fab=
ricate<br clear=3D"none">some out of sheet aluminum.<br clear=3D"none"><br =
clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Joe<br clear=3D"none"=
><br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"no=
ne"><br clear=3D"none">&nbsp; _____&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"n=
one">From: Triumphs [mailto:<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:tri=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>] On Behal=
f Of Andrew<br clear=3D"none">Uprichard<br clear=3D"none">Sent: Wednesday, =
January 06, 2016 4:25 PM<br clear=3D"none">To: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D=
"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"no=
ne">Subject: [TR] TR3 stone guards<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"> <b=
r clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I don't know about others, but my exper=
ience with the aftermarket TR3 stone<br clear=3D"none">guards (especially t=
he large ones which fit over the rear fenders) has been<br clear=3D"none">v=
ery disappointing.&nbsp; Badly made and frustratingly hard to fit.&nbsp; So=
 when I<br clear=3D"none">started the latest restoration on a CA car with m=
inimal rust (lots of other<br clear=3D"none">problems, but rust wasn't one =
of them !) I decided I would try to salvage<br clear=3D"none">the stone gua=
rds.&nbsp; They were heavily pitted and dented and I thought I was<br clear=
=3D"none">wasting my time, but I started off hammering out the dents and th=
en I used a<br clear=3D"none">grinder to level all the pits and scratches.&=
nbsp; I followed with 80 grit, then<br clear=3D"none">150, 320 and 600.&nbs=
p; Then aluminum polish and finally a good waxing.&nbsp; I have<br clear=3D=
"none">to say, the end result was really good - and they fit !<br clear=3D"=
none"><br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Having said=
 that, I guess I spent most of a day on the 2 large guards, so<br clear=3D"=
none">this approach would make little sense for a restoration shop or someo=
ne<br clear=3D"none">charging by the hour.&nbsp; But for someone like me wi=
th time on my side, I saved<br clear=3D"none">$100 not buying new and I now=
 have guards which will fit.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"> <br clea=
r=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I learned a lot from an older guy in a restor=
ation shop who routinely threw<br clear=3D"none">out the old and replaced w=
ith new.&nbsp; Maybe there was a day when "new" really<br clear=3D"none">wa=
s better, but the more of these cars I do (and I am now on number 13) the<b=
r clear=3D"none">more I try to keep whatever I can and only replace where a=
bsolutely<br clear=3D"none">necessary.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"=
> <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Just my 2 cents....<br clear=3D"non=
e"><br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Andrew Upricha=
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e: 5<br clear=3D"none">Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2016 20:35:41 -0500<br clear=3D"no=
ne">From: Kerry G Stanley &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:kstanley44=
@verizon.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: <a rel=
=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked].=
net</a><br clear=3D"none">Subject: [TR] WTB a TR-3<br clear=3D"none">Messag=
e-ID: &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:C06D66EA-5A1=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:C06D=
[email-masked]">C06D66EA-5A13-4D93-BB5D-FC4A0=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Content-Type: text/plain; cha=
rset=3Dwindows-1252<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Hi all,<br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I recently joined the list, and have found it =
very useful already.&nbsp; I owned a ?61 back in the ?70s and could kick my=
self for ever selling.&nbsp; I am now in a hunt for project TR-3.&nbsp; I?m=
 expecting to do a full frame off restoration - with a lot of learning alon=
g the way!!!&nbsp; I live in the Richmond VA area, although I hear shipping=
 cross country is not an insurmountable problem.&nbsp; If anyone has any l =
leads on a project just waiting for help please let me know.&nbsp; I also j=
oined the Richmond Triumph Register, the Triumph Experience forum and a cou=
ple others.&nbsp; Great resources.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Tha=
nks, take care.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Kerry<br clear=3D"none=
"><br clear=3D"none">------------------------------<br clear=3D"none"><br c=
lear=3D"none">Message: 6<br clear=3D"none">Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 18:23:32 -=
0800<br clear=3D"none">From: "Randall" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rec=
t" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: &lt;=
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triumphs@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 stone guards<br c=
lear=3D"none">Message-ID: &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D=
"mailto:08.5F.02073.22CCD865@cdptpa-oedge02" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mail=
to:08.5F.02073.22CCD865@cdptpa-oedge02">08.5F.02073.22CCD865@cdptpa-oedge02=
</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Content-Type: text/plain;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; char=
set=3D"us-ascii"<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&g=
t; After reading your post, I find myself wondering why you <br clear=3D"no=
ne">&gt; could not fabricate some out of sheet aluminum.<br clear=3D"none">=
<br clear=3D"none">They have fairly deep compound curves, which might be tr=
icky for someone with no experience beating aluminum (or using an English<b=
r clear=3D"none">wheel).<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">The new ones =
I got from TRF had the curves right, they just had a lot of extra metal aro=
und the edges that had to be trimmed away.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"n=
one">Randall<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br cl=
ear=3D"none">------------------------------<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"=
none">Message: 7<br clear=3D"none">Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 02:23:31 +0000 (UT=
C)<br clear=3D"none">From: davehogye &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect"=
 ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dl=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: Kerry =
G Stanley &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:kstanley=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ks=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Cc: "list, TR" &lt;<a rel=3D=
"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [TR] WTB a TR-3<br clear=3D"none">M=
essage-ID:<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" sha=
pe=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:1338270890.19362171.1452133411915.JavaMail.zi=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:1338270890.19362171.1452=
[email-masked]">1338270890.19362171.1452133411915.Ja=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Content-Type: text/plai=
n; charset=3D"utf-8"<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Welcome aboard, K=
erry. <br clear=3D"none">I'm sure that you will get years of pleasure for y=
our efforts involving another Triumph. Especially a TR3. <br clear=3D"none"=
>Joining your local Triumph club and the TR list are the best places to sta=
rt. <br clear=3D"none">I'll look forward to your inquiries and shared succe=
sses. <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Dave H. <br clear=3D"none">Sant=
a Cruz, CA <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">----- Original Message ---=
--<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">From: "Kerry G Stanley" &lt;<a rel=
=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; <br clear=3D"none">To: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:triump=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> <br clear=3D"none">Sent: Wed=
nesday, January 6, 2016 5:35:41 PM <br clear=3D"none">Subject: [TR] WTB a T=
R-3 <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Hi all, <br clear=3D"none"><br cl=
ear=3D"none">I recently joined the list, and have found it very useful alre=
ady. I owned a ?61 back in the ?70s and could kick myself for ever selling.=
 I am now in a hunt for project TR-3. I?m expecting to do a full frame off =
restoration - with a lot of learning along the way!!! I live in the Richmon=
d VA area, although I hear shipping cross country is not an insurmountable =
problem. If anyone has any l leads on a project just waiting for help pleas=
e let me know. I also joined the Richmond Triumph Register, the Triumph Exp=
erience forum and a couple others. Great resources. <br clear=3D"none"><br =
clear=3D"none">Thanks, take care. <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Ker=
ry <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">** <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"re=
ct" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"ma=
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one"><br clear=3D"none">Donate: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=
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br clear=3D"none">Message: 8<br clear=3D"none">Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 21:30:=
03 -0500<br clear=3D"none">From: Bill Hall &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D=
"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: Joe=
 Curry &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:spitlist@co=
x.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Cc: "<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:triump=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" sha=
pe=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br cl=
ear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 stone guards<br clear=3D"none">Message-I=
D:<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CAKQUVBLn_wY9PLd=3D<a rel=3D"no=
follow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:XKQ7xKJmcKJ8G8WhMD4oLZjnw9YQ6ofgsw=
@mail.gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:XKQ7xKJmcKJ8G8WhMD4oLZjnw=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br c=
lear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Personally, a day of work is well worth it=
 considering the original is over<br clear=3D"none">50 yeArs old...... Just=
 saying!<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">On Wednesday, January 6, 2016=
, Joe Curry &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:spitli=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">spitlist@cox=
.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; After reading=
 your post, I find myself wondering why you could not<br clear=3D"none">&gt=
; fabricate some out of sheet aluminum.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"=
none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Joe<br clear=3D"no=
ne">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&g=
t;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; ------------------------------<br clear=3D"none">=
&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; *From:* Triumphs [mailto:<a rel=3D"nofollow" sh=
ape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triumphs-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none">&gt; &lt;javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','<a =
rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
am.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">t=
[email-masked]</a>');&gt;] *On<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Behal=
f Of *Andrew Uprichard<br clear=3D"none">&gt; *Sent:* Wednesday, January 06=
, 2016 4:25 PM<br clear=3D"none">&gt; *To:* <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"re=
ct" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"=
>&gt; &lt;javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" y=
mailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>');&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e">&gt; *Subject:* [TR] TR3 stone guards<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D=
"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; I don?t know abou=
t others, but my experience with the aftermarket TR3<br clear=3D"none">&gt;=
 stone guards (especially the large ones which fit over the rear fenders)<b=
r clear=3D"none">&gt; has been very disappointing.&nbsp; Badly made and fru=
stratingly hard to fit.&nbsp; So<br clear=3D"none">&gt; when I started the =
latest restoration on a CA car with minimal rust (lots<br clear=3D"none">&g=
t; of other problems, but rust wasn?t one of them !) I decided I would try =
to<br clear=3D"none">&gt; salvage the stone guards.&nbsp; They were heavily=
 pitted and dented and I<br clear=3D"none">&gt; thought I was wasting my ti=
me, but I started off hammering out the dents<br clear=3D"none">&gt; and th=
en I used a grinder to level all the pits and scratches.&nbsp; I followed<b=
r clear=3D"none">&gt; with 80 grit, then 150, 320 and 600.&nbsp; Then alumi=
num polish and finally a<br clear=3D"none">&gt; good waxing.&nbsp; I have t=
o say, the end result was really good ? and they fit !<br clear=3D"none">&g=
t;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Hav=
ing said that, I guess I spent most of a day on the 2 large guards, so<br c=
lear=3D"none">&gt; this approach would make little sense for a restoration =
shop or someone<br clear=3D"none">&gt; charging by the hour.&nbsp; But for =
someone like me with time on my side, I<br clear=3D"none">&gt; saved $100 n=
ot buying new and I now have guards which will fit.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<=
br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; I lear=
ned a lot from an older guy in a restoration shop who routinely<br clear=3D=
"none">&gt; threw out the old and replaced with new.&nbsp; Maybe there was =
a day when ?new?<br clear=3D"none">&gt; really was better, but the more of =
these cars I do (and I am now on number<br clear=3D"none">&gt; 13) the more=
 I try to keep whatever I can and only replace where absolutely<br clear=3D=
"none">&gt; necessary.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br cle=
ar=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Just my 2 cents??..<br clear=3D"non=
e">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt=
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lear=3D"none">Message: 9<br clear=3D"none">Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 20:42:43 -=
0600<br clear=3D"none">From: "<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a>" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: Kerry G Stanley &lt;<a rel=
=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Cc: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:triump=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none">Subject: R=
e: [TR] WTB a TR-3<br clear=3D"none">Message-ID: &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" sh=
ape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:ABC10AAC-14A8-4E59-807B-0C0A708BE039@f=
lash.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none">Content-Type: text/plain;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; charset=3Dutf-8<br cl=
ear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Welcome to the list Terry, <br clear=3D"non=
e"><br clear=3D"none">Was your TR3 from the 70's red with a big stovepipe e=
xhaust?&nbsp;  I lived in Richmond when I sold mine. <br clear=3D"none"><br=
 clear=3D"none">just remember it's much easier to ask dumb questions than f=
ix dumb mistakes.&nbsp;  Projects are always coming along, good to know you=
 are looking. <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">All the best,<br clear=
=3D"none">Bill<br clear=3D"none">TS30800L<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"no=
ne"><br clear=3D"none">Sent from my VIC-64<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"n=
one">On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Kerry G Stanley &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" sh=
ape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Hi all,<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D=
"none">I recently joined the list, and have found it very useful already.&n=
bsp; I owned a ?61 back in the ?70s and could kick myself for ever selling.=
&nbsp; I am now in a hunt for project TR-3.&nbsp; I?m expecting to do a ful=
l frame off restoration - with a lot of learning along the way!!!&nbsp; I l=
ive in the Richmond VA area, although I hear shipping cross country is not =
an insurmountable problem.&nbsp; If anyone has any l leads on a project jus=
t waiting for help please let me know.&nbsp; I also joined the Richmond Tri=
umph Register, the Triumph Experience forum and a couple others.&nbsp; Grea=
t resources.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Thanks, take care.<br cle=
ar=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Kerry<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">*=
* <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
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e"><br clear=3D"none">Message: 10<br clear=3D"none">Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 0=
2:47:25 +0000 (UTC)<br clear=3D"none">From: davehogye &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollo=
w" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D=
"none">To: Andrew Uprichard &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:aupri=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Cc:=
 "list, TR" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:triump=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 s=
tone guards<br clear=3D"none">Message-ID:<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:270178725.1937=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]">2701787=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"n=
one">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br clear=3D"none"><br clea=
r=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Andrew, <br clear=3D"none">You are right on a=
bout the stone guards. The repros don't fit anything like the originals. I =
found that much trimming is needed, but I got mine to look factory by doing=
 the necessary work. <br clear=3D"none">Reusing original parts should defin=
itely be considered. <br clear=3D"none">In a matter of a few hundred miles,=
 the new ones got all pitted and dented anyway. They look perfectly used no=
w. <br clear=3D"none">If it's going to be a trailer queen, by all means, ma=
ke the repros work. But protect them with layers of foam, because the sligh=
test momentum past pushing the car in the driveway will cause pits and dent=
s. <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Dave H. <br clear=3D"none"><br cle=
ar=3D"none">From: "Andrew Uprichard" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect"=
 ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br clear=3D"=
none">To: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:triumphs@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triu=
[email-masked]</a> <br clear=3D"none">Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016=
 3:24:31 PM <br clear=3D"none">Subject: [TR] TR3 stone guards <br clear=3D"=
none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I don?t know=
 about others, but my experience with the aftermarket TR3 stone guards (esp=
ecially the large ones which fit over the rear fenders) has been very disap=
pointing. Badly made and frustratingly hard to fit. So when I started the l=
atest restoration on a CA car with minimal rust (lots of other problems, bu=
t rust wasn?t one of them !) I decided I would try to salvage the stone gua=
rds. They were heavily pitted and dented and I thought I was wasting my tim=
e, but I started off hammering out the dents and then I used a grinder to l=
evel all the pits and scratches. I followed with 80 grit, then 150, 320 and=
 600. Then aluminum polish and finally a good waxing. I have to say, the en=
d result was really good ? and they fit ! <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"n=
one"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Having said that, I guess I spen=
t most of a day on the 2 large guards, so this approach would make little s=
ense for a restoration shop or someone charging by the hour. But for someon=
e like me with time on my side, I saved $100 not buying new and I now have =
guards which will fit. <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"n=
one"><br clear=3D"none">I learned a lot from an older guy in a restoration =
shop who routinely threw out the old and replaced with new. Maybe there was=
 a day when ?new? really was better, but the more of these cars I do (and I=
 am now on number 13) the more I try to keep whatever I can and only replac=
e where absolutely necessary. <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br cle=
ar=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Just my 2 cents??.. <br clear=3D"none"><br c=
lear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Andrew Uprichard <br cl=
ear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">** <a rel=3D"nofollow" s=
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16 21:54:27 -0500<br clear=3D"none">From: David Friedlander &lt;<a rel=3D"n=
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ank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=
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lto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
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m.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 stone guards<br clear=
=3D"none">Message-ID:<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a rel=3D"no=
follow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:CAJ1eQwiOw-ODkx2bBD02x9Oq-YWJ3siiQ=
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[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none">I recently bought a set of stone guards from one of the Big Three=
 and was<br clear=3D"none">not impressed by the quality of what I received.=
 To add to it, the prices<br clear=3D"none">for these are pretty steep. The=
 pieces I took off my '59 TR3 were deeply<br clear=3D"none">pitted but were=
 a heavier gauge aluminum than these new ones.... I suspect<br clear=3D"non=
e">they dent/deform far more easily than the stock pieces. Seems like these=
<br clear=3D"none">are&nbsp; good candidates for some fab shop to make in h=
eavier gauge aluminum or<br clear=3D"none">even stainless steel. At least t=
hen, I wouldn't mind spending the $$.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">=
Dave<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"n=
one">On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Randall &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"=
none"><br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt; After reading you=
r post, I find myself wondering why you<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt; could n=
ot fabricate some out of sheet aluminum.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D=
"none">&gt; They have fairly deep compound curves, which might be tricky fo=
r someone<br clear=3D"none">&gt; with no experience beating aluminum (or us=
ing an English<br clear=3D"none">&gt; wheel).<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br cle=
ar=3D"none">&gt; The new ones I got from TRF had the curves right, they jus=
t had a lot of<br clear=3D"none">&gt; extra metal around the edges that had=
 to be trimmed away.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Randall<=
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0800<br clear=3D"none">From: "Jonas Payne" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D=
"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: "'Davi=
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[email-masked]</a>&gt;, "'Randall'"<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &l=
t;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
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/a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Cc: 'TR3 Triumphs' &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=
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r=3D"none">Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 stone guards<br clear=3D"none">Message-ID:=
 &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Content-=
Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Th=
e ones I got from Moss were the same gauge, but required a significant amou=
nt of trimming and fitting ? no BS, I had about 10 hours to do both sides b=
y the time I was done fitting them.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"n=
one"> <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I just assumed that my fenders =
were ?out of shape? from nearly 60 years of abuse and as near as I can tell=
 8 or 9 paint jobs, bodged rust repairs, etc. etc.??????.<br clear=3D"none"=
><br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Jonas Payne<br c=
lear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">PBR Consulting Services, LLC<br clear=3D"n=
one"><br clear=3D"none">702.882.6711<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"> =
<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">From: Triumphs [mailto:<a rel=3D"nofo=
llow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triumphs-bou=
[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of David Friedlander<br clear=3D"none">S=
ent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 6:54 PM<br clear=3D"none">To: Randall &lt;<=
a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Cc: TR3 Triumphs &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"re=
ct" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"n=
one">Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 stone guards<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none=
"> <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I recently bought a set of stone g=
uards from one of the Big Three and was not impressed by the quality of wha=
t I received. To add to it, the prices for these are pretty steep. The piec=
es I took off my '59 TR3 were deeply pitted but were a heavier gauge alumin=
um than these new ones.... I suspect they dent/deform far more easily than =
the stock pieces. Seems like these are&nbsp; good candidates for some fab s=
hop to make in heavier gauge aluminum or even stainless steel. At least the=
n, I wouldn't mind spending the $$.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Da=
ve<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"non=
e"> <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:23 PM, R=
andall &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:TR3driver@c=
a.rr.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">TR3driver@c=
a.rr.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt; &gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"no=
ne"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; After reading your post, I find myself wonderin=
g why you<br clear=3D"none">&gt; could not fabricate some out of sheet alum=
inum.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">They have fairly deep compound c=
urves, which might be tricky for someone with no experience beating aluminu=
m (or using an English<br clear=3D"none">wheel).<br clear=3D"none"><br clea=
r=3D"none">The new ones I got from TRF had the curves right, they just had =
a lot of extra metal around the edges that had to be trimmed away.<br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Randall<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><=
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: "Alex&amp;Janet Thomson" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:aljlth=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: "'=
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&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
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utox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [TR] WTB a TR-3<br cle=
ar=3D"none">Message-ID: &lt;[email-masked]&gt;=
<br clear=3D"none">Content-Type: text/plain;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; charset=3D"u=
s-ascii"<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&nbsp; Kerry - This just came=
 in from the Brits-on-the-Hudson.<br clear=3D"none">Alex Thomson - Connecti=
cut Triumph Register<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"> Just spotted thi=
s tr3 for sale on craigs list in Hyde park.&nbsp; Haven't seen<br clear=3D"=
none">it and don't know the seller, but he's looking for best offer and loo=
ks from<br clear=3D"none">pictures like a good winter project.<br clear=3D"=
none"><br clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blan=
k" href=3D"https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/bfs/5380109115.html">https:/=
/hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/bfs/5380109115.html </a><br clear=3D"none"><br=
 clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Hi all,<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"n=
one">I recently joined the list, and have found it very useful already.&nbs=
p; I owned<br clear=3D"none">a '61 back in the '70s and could kick myself f=
or ever selling.&nbsp; I am now in<br clear=3D"none">a hunt for project TR-=
3.&nbsp; I'm expecting to do a full frame off restoration -<br clear=3D"non=
e">with a lot of learning along the way!!!&nbsp; I live in the Richmond VA =
area,<br clear=3D"none">although I hear shipping cross country is not an in=
surmountable problem.&nbsp; If<br clear=3D"none">anyone has any l leads on =
a project just waiting for help please let me<br clear=3D"none">know.&nbsp;=
 I also joined the Richmond Triumph Register, the Triumph Experience<br cle=
ar=3D"none">forum and a couple others.&nbsp; Great resources.<br clear=3D"n=
one"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"=
none">------------------------------<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">M=
essage: 14<br clear=3D"none">Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 15:38:24 +0000 (UTC)<br =
clear=3D"none">From: davehogye &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymail=
to=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@=
comcast.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: Andrew Upric=
hard &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:auprichard@up=
richard.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">aup=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Cc: "list, TR" &lt;<a rel=
=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked].=
net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [TR] rear brake pipes routing<br=
 clear=3D"none">Message-ID:<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a rel=
=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:1896959492.19781938.14521811=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:1896959=
[email-masked]">1896959492.19781938=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Conten=
t-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">=
In front of the bumpers then back over to the cylinder is correct. <br clea=
r=3D"none">The chassis looks beautiful. Nice job. <br clear=3D"none"><br cl=
ear=3D"none">Dave H. <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">----- Original M=
essage -----<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">From: "Andrew Uprichard" =
&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:auprichard@upricha=
rd.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">aupricha=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br clear=3D"none">To: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> <br clear=
=3D"none">Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 9:03:25 AM <br clear=3D"none">Su=
bject: [TR] rear brake pipes routing <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">=
<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I just fitted new brake lines to a TR=
3 ? routed in front of the bump stop and leaf spring shackle (see pic). Som=
eone told me the lines should be routed behind the axle, but I have always =
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ollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clea=
r=3D"none">To: Alex&amp;Janet Thomson &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect=
" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e">Cc: "list, TR" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:=
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am.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, Kerry G Stanley<br clear=3D"none">=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:kstanley44@verizo=
n.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [TR] W=
TB a TR-3<br clear=3D"none">Message-ID:<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:715699604.197879=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">715699604=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none">TR3Bs are the rarest of the TRs, because of the low production nu=
mber. <br clear=3D"none">It could have the 2138cc engine and fully synchron=
ized trans. <br clear=3D"none">This car looks worth checking on as a projec=
t. <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Dave H. <br clear=3D"none"><br cle=
ar=3D"none">----- Original Message -----<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"non=
e">From: "Alex&amp;Janet Thomson" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ym=
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To: "Kerry G Stanley" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mai=
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Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 2:37:15 AM <br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: =
[TR] WTB a TR-3 <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Kerry - This just cam=
e in from the Brits-on-the-Hudson. <br clear=3D"none">Alex Thomson - Connec=
ticut Triumph Register <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Just spotted t=
his tr3 for sale on craigs list in Hyde park. Haven't seen <br clear=3D"non=
e">it and don't know the seller, but he's looking for best offer and looks =
from <br clear=3D"none">pictures like a good winter project. <br clear=3D"n=
one"><br clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank=
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one">I recently joined the list, and have found it very useful already. I o=
wned <br clear=3D"none">a '61 back in the '70s and could kick myself for ev=
er selling. I am now in <br clear=3D"none">a hunt for project TR-3. I'm exp=
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ne">although I hear shipping cross country is not an insurmountable problem=
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r help please let me <br clear=3D"none">know. I also joined the Richmond Tr=
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