Subject: [TR] TR3 stone guards

From: "Andrew Uprichard" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 18:24:31 -0500

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I don't know about others, but my experience with the aftermarket TR3 stone
guards (especially the large ones which fit over the rear fenders) has been
very disappointing.  Badly made and frustratingly hard to fit.  So when I
started the latest restoration on a CA car with minimal rust (lots of other
problems, but rust wasn't one of them !) I decided I would try to salvage
the stone guards.  They were heavily pitted and dented and I thought I was
wasting my time, but I started off hammering out the dents and then I used a
grinder to level all the pits and scratches.  I followed with 80 grit, then
150, 320 and 600.  Then aluminum polish and finally a good waxing.  I have
to say, the end result was really good - and they fit !

Having said that, I guess I spent most of a day on the 2 large guards, so
this approach would make little sense for a restoration shop or someone
charging by the hour.  But for someone like me with time on my side, I saved
$100 not buying new and I now have guards which will fit.

I learned a lot from an older guy in a restoration shop who routinely threw
out the old and replaced with new.  Maybe there was a day when "new" really
was better, but the more of these cars I do (and I am now on number 13) the
more I try to keep whatever I can and only replace where absolutely
necessary.

Just my 2 cents....

Andrew Uprichard

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
don&#8217;t know about others, but my experience with the aftermarket =
TR3 stone guards (especially the large ones which fit over the rear =
fenders) has been very disappointing.&nbsp; Badly made and frustratingly =
hard to fit.&nbsp; So when I started the latest restoration on a CA car =
with minimal rust (lots of other problems, but rust wasn&#8217;t one of =
them !) I decided I would try to salvage the stone guards.&nbsp; They =
were heavily pitted and dented and I thought I was wasting my time, but =
I started off hammering out the dents and then I used a grinder to level =
all the pits and scratches.&nbsp; I followed with 80 grit, then 150, 320 =
and 600.&nbsp; Then aluminum polish and finally a good waxing.&nbsp; I =
have to say, the end result was really good &#8211; and they fit =
!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Having said that, I guess I spent most of a day on the =
2 large guards, so this approach would make little sense for a =
restoration shop or someone charging by the hour.&nbsp; But for someone =
like me with time on my side, I saved $100 not buying new and I now have =
guards which will fit.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I learned a =
lot from an older guy in a restoration shop who routinely threw out the =
old and replaced with new.&nbsp; Maybe there was a day when =
&#8220;new&#8221; really was better, but the more of these cars I do =
(and I am now on number 13) the more I try to keep whatever I can and =
only replace where absolutely necessary.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Just my 2 =
cents&#8230;&#8230;..<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Andrew =
Uprichard<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>
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From: "Joe Curry" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 16:46:04 -0700

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After reading your post, I find myself wondering why you could not fabricate
some out of sheet aluminum.

Joe

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From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Andrew
Uprichard
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 4:25 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] TR3 stone guards

Just my 2 cents....

Andrew Uprichard

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>After reading your post, I find =
myself
wondering why you could not fabricate some out of sheet =
aluminum.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Joe<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> =
Triumphs
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Andrew Uprichard<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January =
06, 2016
4:25 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
[email-masked]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [TR] TR3 stone =
guards</span></font><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I
don&#8217;t know about others, but my experience with the aftermarket =
TR3 stone
guards (especially the large ones which fit over the rear fenders) has =
been
very disappointing.&nbsp; Badly made and frustratingly hard to =
fit.&nbsp; So
when I started the latest restoration on a CA car with minimal rust =
(lots of
other problems, but rust wasn&#8217;t one of them !) I decided I would =
try to
salvage the stone guards.&nbsp; They were heavily pitted and dented and =
I
thought I was wasting my time, but I started off hammering out the dents =
and
then I used a grinder to level all the pits and scratches.&nbsp; I =
followed
with 80 grit, then 150, 320 and 600.&nbsp; Then aluminum polish and =
finally a
good waxing.&nbsp; I have to say, the end result was really good &#8211; =
and
they fit !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Having
said that, I guess I spent most of a day on the 2 large guards, so this
approach would make little sense for a restoration shop or someone =
charging by
the hour.&nbsp; But for someone like me with time on my side, I saved =
$100 not
buying new and I now have guards which will =
fit.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I
learned a lot from an older guy in a restoration shop who routinely =
threw out
the old and replaced with new.&nbsp; Maybe there was a day when
&#8220;new&#8221; really was better, but the more of these cars I do =
(and I am
now on number 13) the more I try to keep whatever I can and only replace =
where
absolutely necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Just
my 2 cents&#8230;&#8230;..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Andrew
Uprichard<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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From: "Randall" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 18:23:32 -0800

> After reading your post, I find myself wondering why you 
> could not fabricate some out of sheet aluminum.

They have fairly deep compound curves, which might be tricky for someone with no experience beating aluminum (or using an English
wheel).

The new ones I got from TRF had the curves right, they just had a lot of extra metal around the edges that had to be trimmed away.

Randall

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From: davehogye <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 02:47:25 +0000 (UTC)

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Andrew,=20
You are right on about the stone guards. The repros don't fit anything like=
 the originals. I found that much trimming is needed, but I got mine to loo=
k factory by doing the necessary work.=20
Reusing original parts should definitely be considered.=20
In a matter of a few hundred miles, the new ones got all pitted and dented =
anyway. They look perfectly used now.=20
If it's going to be a trailer queen, by all means, make the repros work. Bu=
t protect them with layers of foam, because the slightest momentum past pus=
hing the car in the driveway will cause pits and dents.=20

Dave H.=20

From: "Andrew Uprichard" <[email-masked]>=20
To: [email-masked]=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 3:24:31 PM=20
Subject: [TR] TR3 stone guards=20

I don=E2=80=99t know about others, but my experience with the aftermarket T=
R3 stone guards (especially the large ones which fit over the rear fenders)=
 has been very disappointing. Badly made and frustratingly hard to fit. So =
when I started the latest restoration on a CA car with minimal rust (lots o=
f other problems, but rust wasn=E2=80=99t one of them !) I decided I would =
try to salvage the stone guards. They were heavily pitted and dented and I =
thought I was wasting my time, but I started off hammering out the dents an=
d then I used a grinder to level all the pits and scratches. I followed wit=
h 80 grit, then 150, 320 and 600. Then aluminum polish and finally a good w=
axing. I have to say, the end result was really good =E2=80=93 and they fit=
 !=20

Having said that, I guess I spent most of a day on the 2 large guards, so t=
his approach would make little sense for a restoration shop or someone char=
ging by the hour. But for someone like me with time on my side, I saved $10=
0 not buying new and I now have guards which will fit.=20

I learned a lot from an older guy in a restoration shop who routinely threw=
 out the old and replaced with new. Maybe there was a day when =E2=80=9Cnew=
=E2=80=9D really was better, but the more of these cars I do (and I am now =
on number 13) the more I try to keep whatever I can and only replace where =
absolutely necessary.=20

Just my 2 cents=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..=20

Andrew Uprichard=20

** [email-masked] **=20

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div><br></div><div>Andrew,<br></div><div>You are right on about the st=
one guards. &nbsp;The repros don't fit anything like the originals. &nbsp;I=
 found that much trimming is needed, but I got mine to look factory by doin=
g the necessary work.</div><div>Reusing original parts should definitely be=
 considered. &nbsp;</div><div>In a matter of a few hundred miles, the new o=
nes got all pitted and dented anyway. &nbsp;They look perfectly used now. &=
nbsp;</div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">If it's going to be a trai=
ler queen, by all means, make the repros work. &nbsp;But protect them with =
layers of foam, because the slightest momentum past pushing the car in the =
driveway will cause pits and dents.</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 12pt;"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Dave H.</=
span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><br></span></div><div styl=
e=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;f=
ont-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Andrew=
 Uprichard" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>To: </b>[email-masked]=
eam.net<br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, January 6, 2016 3:24:31 PM<br><b>Subject=
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--></style><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I don=E2=80=
=99t know about others, but my experience with the aftermarket TR3 stone gu=
ards (especially the large ones which fit over the rear fenders) has been v=
ery disappointing.&nbsp; Badly made and frustratingly hard to fit.&nbsp; So=
 when I started the latest restoration on a CA car with minimal rust (lots =
of other problems, but rust wasn=E2=80=99t one of them !) I decided I would=
 try to salvage the stone guards.&nbsp; They were heavily pitted and dented=
 and I thought I was wasting my time, but I started off hammering out the d=
ents and then I used a grinder to level all the pits and scratches.&nbsp; I=
 followed with 80 grit, then 150, 320 and 600.&nbsp; Then aluminum polish a=
nd finally a good waxing.&nbsp; I have to say, the end result was really go=
od =E2=80=93 and they fit !</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">Having said that, I guess I spent most of a day on the 2 large =
guards, so this approach would make little sense for a restoration shop or =
someone charging by the hour.&nbsp; But for someone like me with time on my=
 side, I saved $100 not buying new and I now have guards which will fit.</p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I learned a lot fr=
om an older guy in a restoration shop who routinely threw out the old and r=
eplaced with new.&nbsp; Maybe there was a day when =E2=80=9Cnew=E2=80=9D re=
ally was better, but the more of these cars I do (and I am now on number 13=
) the more I try to keep whatever I can and only replace where absolutely n=
ecessary.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Just m=
y 2 cents=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Andrew Uprichard</p></div><br><div><br></div>** triumphs@aut=
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