Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 gearbox oil leak

From: "Andrew Uprichard" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 09:12:00 -0500

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Thank you to all who replied.  Bottom line for me is:  unless it is not the
gearbox itself, or it is a rear seal, the owner will likely have to pull it
to have it looked at.

Andrew Uprichard

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From: "Randall" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 14:33:35 -0800

> ..before I get blasted.. a little history.. back in the seventies 
> Triumphs were experiencing many gear box failures.

Was that with TR6 or TR7?

> They sent  
> a factory 
> rep to our shop (for one).. turns out the change to 80-90 
> gear lube was 
> the culprit...

That's interesting, since supposedly they switched to recommending gear oil for exactly the same reason (but about 15 years
earlier).

As far as I know, they never stopped officially recommending gear oil for the TR6 gearbox.  If it really caused such severe
problems, you'd think they'd fix that in the 15 or so years (and 5 different car models) that they kept recommending gear oil.

-- Randall

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From: David Porter <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:05:47 -0700

yes..second series 5spds.. TR7 & 8's in particular  They switched to ATF 
if I recall.. it's been a while:-)

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Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 
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From: David Porter <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2015 16:40:55 -0700

The problems weren't severe. There were pump failures and crappy shifting. 
 I think if the car was fitted with an overdrive the gear oil would certainly give performance issues. Esp. In cold weather. 
I can't speak to the company's owner manual printing policy..
Dave

On December 1, 2015, at 4:05 PM, David Porter <[email-masked]> wrote:

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From: "Randall" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:21:43 -0800

>  I think if the car was fitted with an overdrive the gear oil 
> would certainly give performance issues. Esp. In cold weather. 

Well, there again, not all gear oils are equal.  The synthetic GL4 gear oil I use in all my Triumphs is actually thinner at 0C than
30 weight motor oil (roughly comparable to 10W40), and shifts much better at any temp.  But I've only driven maybe 50,000 miles
since switching, so it may blow up tomorrow.

-- Randall

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From: "Greg Lemon" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 18:42:34 -0600

P.S. to the comments I just made, I haven't had any experience with 
synthetics, most everything I have read they leak more (and I know they cost 
more) so I and my leaky cars have shied away, but by all reports from the 
world of Triumphs, Healeys, and even old BMWs,  it can make for smoother 
shifting.

Greg Lemon

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From: "Randall" <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 6:21 PM
To: "'Triumphs List'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 gearbox oil leak

> Well, there again, not all gear oils are equal.  The synthetic GL4 gear 
> oil I use in all my Triumphs is actually thinner at 0C than
> 30 weight motor oil (roughly comparable to 10W40), and shifts much better 
> at any temp.  But I've only driven maybe 50,000 miles
> Unsubscribe/Manage: 
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 20:03:13 -0500

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John Esposito (the guy you are thinking of) sent my rebuilt  overdrive
with a note that said using anything other than 30  weight
non-detergent oil in the gearbox would void the warranty.  That's  a
good enough reason for me to use it.

Jeff Scarbrough

Esposito also rebuilt my  transmission and overdrive in 2002.  Same mention 
to me about the 30 weight  non-detergent.  Truthfully if Mr. Esposito said 
to use kangaroo urine  that's what I would use.  With just over 38,000 miles 
since the rebuild why  should I be looking for any other fluid.  Must 
mention that I change  fluid and clean filter every spring.
 
Lou Metelko
Auburn,  Indiana
54 TR2LD

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