Subject: Re: [TR] TR3a Radiator Issues

From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 16:33:43 -0700

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On 11/19/15 4:19 PM, David Templeton wrote:
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> 3.See if someone has a spare to sell and ship to Southern Ontario? 
> What shape and do I run risk of failing first week after install?
>
>
I have a TR3 radiator gathering dust, but I suspect it would cost a 
chunk to get it across the Canadian border on top of shipping. It has 
the factory top and bottom tanks and less than 8000 miles since being 
recored.  The core does not have the hole for the starter handle.

The radiator is in Arizona.

TeriAnn

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    I have a TR3 radiator gathering dust, but I suspect it would cost a
    chunk to get it across the Canadian border on top of shipping. It
    has the factory top and bottom tanks and less than 8000 miles since
    being recored.  The core does not have the hole for the starter
    handle.<br>
    <br>
    The radiator is in Arizona.<br>
    <br>
    TeriAnn<br>
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Find a radiator shop, they can patch and straighten the tank with brass, =
new core, and reinforce the neck like Randall did. Bob=E2=80=99s your =
uncle.
JVV

From: David Templeton=20
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 6:19 PM
To: Triumphs List=20
Subject: [TR] TR3a Radiator Issues

Evening all,

=20

During the summer I had to move my =E2=80=983a and in the process the =
bottom of the radiator got punctured.  Depressing sight=E2=80=A6..  It =
is the original one, even with the crank hole in the middle.  It also =
has a leak around where the neck attaches to the top tank from before =
but that was patched.  I am wondering on what to do and looking for =
experience feedback:

=20

1.       Try and get it repaired?  Given it is original, how much real =
life is there?

2.       Buy a new replacement from one of the big three? What is the =
fit and finish been like?

3.       See if someone has a spare to sell and ship to Southern =
Ontario? What shape and do I run risk of failing first week after =
install?

4.       Buy an aftermarket =E2=80=98racing=E2=80=99 one? Look horrid J =
but what is the fit and finish like?

5.       Other options? =20

=20

Thanks=20

David=20

=E2=80=9959 tr3a =E2=80=93 wanting to wake=E2=80=A6..

=E2=80=9974 spitsix =E2=80=93 sleeping=20

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<DIV>Find a radiator shop, they can patch and straighten the tank with =
brass,=20
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uncle.</DIV>
<DIV>JVV</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">David Templeton</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 19, 2015 6:19 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [TR] TR3a Radiator Issues</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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in the process the=20
bottom of the radiator got punctured.&nbsp; Depressing =
sight=E2=80=A6..&nbsp; It is the=20
original one, even with the crank hole in the middle.&nbsp; It also has =
a leak=20
around where the neck attaches to the top tank from before but that was=20
patched.&nbsp; I am wondering on what to do and looking for experience=20
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Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN></SPAN>See if someone has a spare to sell and ship to Southern =
Ontario?=20
What shape and do I run risk of failing first week after =
install?<o:p></o:p></P>
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</SPAN></SPAN>Buy an aftermarket =E2=80=98racing=E2=80=99 one? Look =
horrid <SPAN=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>David <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>=E2=80=9959 tr3a =E2=80=93 wanting to =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>=E2=80=9974 spitsix =E2=80=93 sleeping =
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From: David Templeton <[email-masked]>
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Wow, should have sent out this message then last week :-). I was in the Wil=
liams, AZ - Las Vegas area on the weekend. Now that would have looked cool =
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<div><b>From: </b>TeriAnn J. Wakeman</div>
<div><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, November 19, 2015 6:33 PM</div>
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<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 11/19/15 4:19 PM, David Templeton wrote:<=
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I have a TR3 radiator gathering dust, but I suspect it would cost a chunk t=
o get it across the Canadian border on top of shipping. It has the factory =
top and bottom tanks and less than 8000 miles since being recored.&nbsp; Th=
e core does not have the hole for the
 starter handle.<br>
<br>
The radiator is in Arizona.<br>
<br>
TeriAnn<br>
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I had mine recored (and kept the crank hole).  I preferred to keep the
original but it did cost as much as a 'new' replacement.

Good luck finding a competent radiator shop - ours in Tucson closed for
good not long after I had the work done.

Geo

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:47 PM, David Templeton <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Wow, should have sent out this message then last week :-). I was in the
> Williams, AZ - Las Vegas area on the weekend. Now that would have looked
> cool as hand luggage on the flight home.
>
> Thanks
> David
> =E2=80=8E
> Sent from my BlackBerry, expect it to be pithy.
> *From: *TeriAnn J. Wakeman
> *Sent: *Thursday, November 19, 2015 6:33 PM
> *To: [email-masked]
> *Subject: *Re: [TR] TR3a Radiator Issues
>
>
>
> 3.       See if someone has a spare to sell and ship to Southern Ontario?
> I have a TR3 radiator gathering dust, but I suspect it would cost a chunk
> to get it across the Canadian border on top of shipping. It has the facto=
ry
> top and bottom tanks and less than 8000 miles since being recored.  The
> core does not have the hole for the starter handle.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I had mine recored (and kept the crank hole).=C2=A0 I=
 preferred to keep the original but it did cost as much as a &#39;new&#39; =
replacement.</div><div><br></div><div>Good luck finding a competent radiato=
r shop - ours in Tucson closed for good not long after I had the work done.=
</div><div><br></div><div>Geo</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:47 PM, David Templeton <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x">

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te Pro&quot;,sans-serif,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
Wow, should have sent out this message then last week :-). I was in the Wil=
liams, AZ - Las Vegas area on the weekend. Now that would have looked cool =
as hand luggage on the flight home. =C2=A0</div>
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;,sans-serif,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
Thanks<br>
David<br>
=E2=80=8E<br>
Sent=C2=A0from=C2=A0my=C2=A0BlackBerry,=C2=A0expect=C2=A0it=C2=A0to=C2=A0be=
=C2=A0pithy.=C2=A0</div>
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r-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-top-width:1pt">
<div><b>From: </b>TeriAnn J. Wakeman</div>
<div><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, November 19, 2015 6:33 PM</div>
<div><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
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<br>
<div>On 11/19/15 4:19 PM, David Templeton wrote:<br>
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<p><span>3.<span style=3D"font:7pt/normal &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;font-=
size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span></span>See if someone has a spare to sell and ship to Southern Ontar=
io? What shape and do I run risk of failing first week after install?</p>
<p><span></span><br>
</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
I have a TR3 radiator gathering dust, but I suspect it would cost a chunk t=
o get it across the Canadian border on top of shipping. It has the factory =
top and bottom tanks and less than 8000 miles since being recored.=C2=A0 Th=
e core does not have the hole for the
 starter handle.<br>
<br>
The radiator is in Arizona.<br>
<br>
TeriAnn<br>
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From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 18:41:11 -0600

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I switched from a Wizard Cooling aluminum radiator back to a recored,
no-crank-hole original brass/copper one as part of resolving the persistent
overheating issues on my car when it came back on the road.  I was never
convinced the Wizard had the right flow rates and the tanks seemed to be
smaller.  Maybe the fact that the first one from Wizard had the top tank
hose outlet in the wrong position biased me against it.  The finish is
quite nice, if you're into that kind of thing. (smile)

I'm quite happy to have the recored original (through the assistance of
Mark Macy).  If someone's really eager to move to a Wizard aluminum TR2-3B
radiator, lemme know via pm.  I'll make ya a good deal on one with only a
little use.

Don
St. Louis MO
1962 TR3B TSF202L

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 5:19 PM, David Templeton <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Evening all,
>
>
>
> During the summer I had to move my =E2=80=983a and in the process the bot=
tom of
> the radiator got punctured.  Depressing sight=E2=80=A6..  It is the origi=
nal one,
> even with the crank hole in the middle.  It also has a leak around where
> the neck attaches to the top tank from before but that was patched.  I am
> wondering on what to do and looking for experience feedback:
>
>
>
> 1.       Try and get it repaired?  Given it is original, how much real
> life is there?
>
> 2.       Buy a new replacement from one of the big three? What is the fit
> and finish been like?
>
> 4.       Buy an aftermarket =E2=80=98racing=E2=80=99 one? Look horrid J b=
ut what is the
> fit and finish like?
> 5.       Other options?
> =E2=80=9974 spitsix =E2=80=93 sleeping
>
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]
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>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I switched from a Wizard Cooling aluminum radiator back to=
 a recored, no-crank-hole original brass/copper one as part of resolving th=
e persistent overheating issues on my car when it came back on the road.=C2=
=A0 I was never convinced the Wizard had the right flow rates and the tanks=
 seemed to be smaller.=C2=A0 Maybe the fact that the first one from Wizard =
had the top tank hose outlet in the wrong position biased me against it.=C2=
=A0 The finish is quite nice, if you&#39;re into that kind of thing. (smile=
)<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m quite happy to have the recored original (thro=
ugh the assistance of Mark Macy).=C2=A0 If someone&#39;s really eager to mo=
ve to a Wizard aluminum TR2-3B radiator, lemme know via pm.=C2=A0 I&#39;ll =
make ya a good deal on one with only a little use.</div><div><br></div><div=
>Don</div><div>St. Louis MO</div><div>1962 TR3B TSF202L</div></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 5=
:19 PM, David Templeton <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:davidt@open=
text.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Evening all,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">During the summer I had to move my =E2=80=983a and i=
n the process the bottom of the radiator got punctured.=C2=A0 Depressing si=
ght=E2=80=A6..=C2=A0 It is the original one, even with the crank hole in th=
e middle.=C2=A0 It also has a leak around where the neck attaches
 to the top tank from before but that was patched.=C2=A0 I am wondering on =
what to do and looking for experience feedback:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p><u></u><span>1.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span></span><u></u>Try and get it repaired?=C2=A0 Given it is original, h=
ow much real life is there?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u><span>2.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span></span><u></u>Buy a new replacement from one of the big three? What =
is the fit and finish been like?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u><span>3.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span></span><u></u>See if someone has a spare to sell and ship to Souther=
n Ontario? What shape and do I run risk of failing first week after install=
?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u><span>4.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span></span><u></u>Buy an aftermarket =E2=80=98racing=E2=80=99 one? Look =
horrid <span style=3D"font-family:Wingdings">
J</span> but what is the fit and finish like?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u><span>5.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span></span><u></u>Other options?=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">David <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=E2=80=9959 tr3a =E2=80=93 wanting to wake=E2=80=A6.=
.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=E2=80=9974 spitsix =E2=80=93 sleeping <u></u><u></u=
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