Subject: Re: [TR] [Healeys] Let's talk oil some more..

From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 19:10:10 +0000 (UTC)

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do i see pitting around the top of the tappet also?if so that's kinda stran=
ge as it has no contact with anything.
frank

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 Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 8:07 AM
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 oops.. wrong picture.. let's try this one..
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Well,=20
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c oil. One of them had the bottom broken out! These were new as was the cam=
, which is also ruined.. just saying..=20
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      synthetic oil. One of them had the bottom broken out! These were
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If I can see correctly, it is the bottom of the tappet (or lifter, or =
mushroom follower) that is pitted and that is in contact with the =
camshaft all of the time. I have my own identical (and worse) examples =
from our TR6.

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From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Frank Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 3:10 PM
To: David Porter; healeys; Triumphs; Triumphs List
Subject: Re: [TR] [Healeys] Let's talk oil some more..

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do i see pitting around the top of the tappet also?

if so that's kinda strange as it has no contact with anything.

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frank

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Well,=20
 Here's a customers TR4 lifter after less than 2 years using synthetic =
oil. One of them had the bottom broken out! These were new as was the =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>If I can see correctly, it is the bottom of the tappet (or lifter, or =
mushroom follower) that is pitted and that is in contact with the =
camshaft all of the time. I have my own identical (and worse) examples =
from our TR6.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Alex Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
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</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Frank Fisher<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 04, 2015 3:10 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> David Porter; healeys; Triumphs; Triumphs =
List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] [Healeys] Let's talk oil some =
more..<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1438710529674_12629"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>do i see =
pitting around the top of the tappet =
also?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1438710529674_12629"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>if so that's =
kinda strange as it has no contact with =
anything.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1438710529674_12628"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
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class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>frank<o:p></o:=
p></span></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1438710529674_12626"><p =
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David Porter &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>To:</b> healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt; =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 3, 2015 8:07 AM<br><b =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1438710529674_12701">Subject:</b> Re: [TR] [Healeys] =
Let's talk oil some more..</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1438710529674_12540"><p =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>oops.. wrong =
picture.. let's try this one..<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1438710529674_12621"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>On 8/3/2015 =
8:26 AM, David Porter wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
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style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Well, =
<br>&nbsp;Here's a customers TR4 lifter after less than 2 years using =
synthetic oil. One of them had the bottom broken out! These were new as =
was the cam, which is also ruined.. just saying.. <br>DaveP =
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This raises an interesting point in my mind. "followers" is what they 
should do, being in contact with the cam at all times. So it follows 
(sorry) that if they are not, then damage like pictured previously is 
more apt to occur. This engine was also equipped with roller rockers, 
aftermarket push rods as well. I think some serious measurements are in 
order...
DaveP

On 8/4/2015 2:00 PM, Alex&Janet Thomson wrote:
>
> If I can see correctly, it is the bottom of the tappet (or lifter, or 
> mushroom follower) that is pitted and that is in contact with the 
> camshaft all of the time. I have my own identical (and worse) examples 
> from our TR6.
>
> Alex Thomson
>
> *From:*Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of 
> *Frank Fisher
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2015 3:10 PM
> *To:* David Porter; healeys; Triumphs; Triumphs List
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] [Healeys] Let's talk oil some more..
>
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> *Sent:* Monday, August 3, 2015 8:07 AM
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    This raises an interesting point in my mind. "followers" is what
    they should do, being in contact with the cam at all times. So it
    follows (sorry) that if they are not, then damage like pictured
    previously is more apt to occur. This engine was also equipped with
    roller rockers, aftermarket push rods as well. I think some serious
    measurements are in order... <br>
    DaveP<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/4/2015 2:00 PM, Alex&amp;Janet
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">If
            I can see correctly, it is the bottom of the tappet (or
            lifter, or mushroom follower) that is pitted and that is in
            contact with the camshaft all of the time. I have my own
            identical (and worse) examples from our TR6.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Alex
            Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                Triumphs [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>Frank Fisher<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 04, 2015 3:10 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> David Porter; healeys; Triumphs; Triumphs
                List<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] [Healeys] Let's talk oil some
                more..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
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                i see pitting around the top of the tappet also?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                so that's kinda strange as it has no contact with
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                    David Porter <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
                    <b>To:</b> healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>;
                    Triumphs <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> <br>
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                           Here's a customers TR4 lifter after less than
                          2 years using synthetic oil. One of them had
                          the bottom broken out! These were new as was
                          the cam, which is also ruined.. just saying..
                          <br>
                          DaveP <br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
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                          <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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