Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 8, Issue 224

From: Dave <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:54:35 -0400

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Remember, the horns draw a LOT of current.  Just because your meter shows c=
ontinuity when pushed doesn't mean the resistance is low enough to work the=
 horns.  Measure voltage on the N/B when the horn pushed is actuated.  Also=
, do the horns work if you jump the N/B wire direct to a good ground instea=
d of through the horn push?  Most cars - even those with fairly simple, bas=
ic wiring like the TR6 -  use a relay to work the horns.  You may need on h=
ere.

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From: Keith Stewart <[email-masked]>
To: triumphs <[email-masked]>
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    I have power at the N/G bullets and connectors. When the N/G wires are =
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n button is pressed, all wired up this way, I very low =E2=80=9Chmph=E2=80=
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ouch it to ground, the horn sounds as it should. If I remove the other N/B =
and touch it to ground, again the horn sounds as it should. I am guessing t=
he horn button ground is not doing its job. Now, to trace where that ground=
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to the L side. Left side now blows as normal. It would seem that the ground=
 provided by the N/B is not getting across to the R side. I guess one horn =
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t size=3D"4">Remember, the horns draw a LOT of current.&nbsp; Just because =
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enough to work the horns.&nbsp; Measure </font><font size=3D"4">voltage on =
the N/B when the horn pushed is actuated.&nbsp; Also, do the horns work if =
you jump the N/B wire direct to a good ground instead of through the horn p=
ush?&nbsp; Most cars - even those with fairly simple, basic wiring like the=
 TR6 -&nbsp; use a relay to work the horns.&nbsp; You may need on here.<br>
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From: Keith Stewart &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>

To: triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>

Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2015 2:33 pm<br>

Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 8, Issue 224<br>

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=E2=80=A6 and if the horn is button is pushed, I have continuity to ground.=
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 the N/B on the R side and connected the N/B from the horn button straight =
to the L side. Left side now blows as normal. It would seem that the ground=
 provided by the N/B is not getting across to the R side. I guess one horn =
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