Subject: Re: [TR] clutch hydraulics

From: Carl Sereda <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:46:46 -0400

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Hi again Dave,
After looking at your youtube again - I can't quite tell if reservoir seal is a problem.. now I'd say rubber hose has swelled such that operation is hindered going both directions. 
After not driving my TR4 for some 10 years my clutch would not re-engage for several minutes after taking foot off clutch pedal. Turned out the inside of rubber hose had swelled shut - with a heavy foot I could force clutch to disengage but clutch springs could barely overcome the restrictive hose. 
Maybe your hose is constricting - your comment of 'slow bleeding process' seems to support this theory.
Again - good luck,
Carl '63 TR4 since '74

check the attached photos.

the complete and total moron
mechanic who put a lot of this car together put the slave on the wrong side of
the bracket.  wasted a lot of time due to his incompetence.

but I do want to
thank all of you who helped me piece this together and arrive at a solution. 
ALL suggestions were helpful.  thank you again.

I was under the car trying to
get the pushrod right when I realized that from an engineering standpoint it was
done completely wrong ? no one would design it so the bolts took the stress; you
would design it so it pushed against the bracket.  then I checked the manual and
found this picture.

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<font color='black' size='2' face='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'>Hi again Dave,
<div>After looking at your youtube again - I can't quite tell if reservoir seal is a problem.. now I'd say rubber hose has swelled such that operation is hindered going both directions.&nbsp;</div>

<div>After not driving my TR4 for some 10 years my clutch would not re-engage for several minutes after taking foot off clutch pedal. Turned out the inside of rubber hose had swelled shut - with a heavy foot I could force clutch to disengage but clutch springs could barely overcome the restrictive hose.&nbsp;</div>

<div>Maybe your hose is constricting - your comment of 'slow bleeding process' seems to support this theory.</div>

<div>Again - good luck,</div>

<div>Carl '63 TR4 since '74<br>

<div style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:10pt;color:black"><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid blue; padding-left: 3px;"><pre><tt>check the attached photos.

the complete and total moron
mechanic who put a lot of this car together put the slave on the wrong side of
the bracket.  wasted a lot of time due to his incompetence.

but I do want to
thank all of you who helped me piece this together and arrive at a solution. 
ALL suggestions were helpful.  thank you again.

I was under the car trying to
get the pushrod right when I realized that from an engineering standpoint it was
done completely wrong ? no one would design it so the bolts took the stress; you
would design it so it pushed against the bracket.  then I checked the manual and
found this picture.</tt></pre></blockquote></div>

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From: Bob Peglow <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 10:30:55 -0400 (EDT)

Hello List,
I am looking for exhaust system opinion. I see Bell and Falcon SS 
available.
I want standard style pipes, why pick one over the other?
Thoughts please?
Regards,
Bob

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From: Craig Nicholls <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 10:53:36 -0400

I have Bell system and my impression and the opinion of the installer was it is superior to the Falcon. I always buy from TRF but in this case I did not

Craig
72 TR6

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From: Bob Labuz <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 11:07:41 -0400

Bob,

I have a late 72 6 with the Bell sport (dual) exhaust setup. This is not 
stock but as with all Bell systems I have used, the fit was perfect. SS 
from the manifold to the tips. Sound, not too quite, not too loud.

Bob

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 10:07:54 -0700

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I have the Falcon on my TR3A, it came with a lifetime guarantee.  They
honored that guarantee when the resonator failed after 25 years.

I do not know if Falcons still have that guarantee or what guarantee Bell
offers.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I have the Falcon on my TR3A, it came with a lifetime=
 guarantee.=C2=A0 They honored that guarantee when the resonator failed aft=
er 25 years.</div><div><br></div><div>I do not know if Falcons still have t=
hat guarantee or what guarantee Bell offers.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail=
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et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">=C2=A0Hello List,<br>
I am looking for exhaust system opinion. I see Bell and Falcon SS available=
.<br>
I want standard style pipes, why pick one over the other?<br>
Thoughts please?<br>
Regards,<br>
Bob<br>
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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 11:50:14 +0000

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  I got a "stock"Bell system last year.  The fit is great=2C bolts right up=
.  When the seam blew out in my  stock Triumph system's muffler a few years=
 ago we drilled additional holes in the the single muffler baffle before we=
 welded it up.  It sounded better=2C but of course a little louder and=2C I=
'm assuming=2C  had less back pressure.   The Bell system sounds louder tha=
n the stock Triumph System=2C but very similar to my  stock muffler after w=
e modified it.  When I put up the new system I used stainless steel muffler=
 bands similar to hose clamps to connect the system together.  They have he=
ld the pipes firmly together and separating the pipes to work on the car is=
 really easy=2C no muffler clamp ridges to overcome.  I don't remember the =
guarantee=2C but I'm pretty sure it will last longer than I will...Bob Roch=
lin72' TR6

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I have the Falcon on my TR3A=2C it came with a lifetime guarantee.  They ho=
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From: Chris Simo <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 23:18:09 -0400

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I think so, too. I have stainless on the tr4 for almost 20 yrs of regular
driving and it looks great.  Probably more wear to bottoming out than
anything else. Hmmmm. Birthday coming up.  Maybe heavy duty rebuild on the
rear shocks...

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<p dir=3D"ltr">I think so, too. I have stainless on the tr4 for almost 20 y=
rs of regular driving and it looks great.=C2=A0 Probably more wear to botto=
ming out than anything else. Hmmmm. Birthday coming up.=C2=A0 Maybe heavy d=
uty rebuild on the rear shocks...</p>

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