Subject: [TR] FW: [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair quote...

From: "Andrew Uprichard" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:24:28 -0400

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Hopefully a typo, but what you need is a MIG welder, not TIG.

Hey - I am a physician and bought myself a MIG welder, found a local welder
and said - "teach me to weld!"  I still can't run a decent bead (so I don't
do any structural work, like frames, but good spot welds suffice for the
majority of repairs (including floors).

Two tips:

-          Buy a welder with a tank of argon:  in my experience the fluxed
wire just isn't as good

-          240 amps makes for a much better weld 

Andrew Uprichard

From: 6pack [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of James_ via
6pack
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:59 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair quote...

Thanks everyone for the great words and advice.

I want a good job and get her on the road so i can drive it. but with all
these rusted out sections, i need to repair them first.

I am totally tempted to go out, buy a TIG welder (a bit expensive) and LEARN
to weld!

Seriously. I haven't seen any welding classes over the summer, but there
will be many in the Fall. But I can teach myself and find friends of friends

instruct me.

I would not do the floor pans but at least the flat sections needing repair.
One area is on the firewall 

near the commission plates . probably a 1"x5" section.

So most sections I need are flat sections. Except for the crazy corner
section directly under the fuse box, master cylinder area.

Which leads me to this: If I can locate a perfect salvaged inner fender and
wheel arch that I can extract this crazy multi-sided

section. I simply cut out the bad and have someone weld in the good
replacement. saves fabricating from scratch. or do it myself. 

Anyone have a good source to find donor panels: wheel arch/inner fender
sections?

Ideally here in Oregon, but willing to pay for shipping. Be even nicer if
someone has the small section I need and not have to ruin a good part that
is intact.

Thanks.

James

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D'>Hopefully a typo, but what you need is a MIG welder, not =
TIG.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hey &#8211; I am a physician and bought myself a MIG welder, found a =
local welder and said &#8211; &#8220;teach me to weld!&#8221;&nbsp; I =
still can&#8217;t run a decent bead (so I don&#8217;t do any structural =
work, like frames, but good spot welds suffice for the majority of =
repairs (including floors).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Two tips:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
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Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Buy a welder with a tank of argon:&nbsp; in my experience the fluxed =
wire just isn&#8217;t as good<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>240 amps makes for a much better weld <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Andrew Uprichard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
6pack [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James_ via 6pack<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subje=
ct:</b> Re: [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair =
quote...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thanks everyone for the =
great words and advice.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I want a good job and get =
her on the road so i can drive it. but with all these rusted out =
sections, i need to repair them =
first.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I am totally tempted to go =
out, buy a TIG welder (a bit expensive) and LEARN to =
weld!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Seriously. I haven't seen =
any welding classes over the summer, but there will be many in the Fall. =
But I can teach myself and find friends of =
friends<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>instruct =
me.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I would not do the floor =
pans but at least the flat sections needing repair. One area is on the =
firewall&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>near the commission plates =
.&nbsp;probably a 1&quot;x5&quot; =
section.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>So most sections I need are =
flat sections. Except for the crazy corner section directly under the =
fuse box, master cylinder area.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Which leads me to this: If =
I can locate a perfect salvaged inner fender and wheel arch that I can =
extract this crazy multi-sided<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>section. I simply cut out =
the bad and have someone weld in the good replacement. saves fabricating =
from scratch. or do it myself.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Anyone have a good source =
to find donor panels: wheel arch/inner fender =
sections?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Ideally here in Oregon, but =
willing to pay for shipping. Be even nicer if someone has the small =
section I need and not have to ruin a good part that is =
intact.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>James<o:p></o:p></span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>=
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Actually a TIG welder is the best, but a MIG will work fine.=C2=A0 For mild=
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IG.=C2=A0 On a 20A circuit it works just fine.....even on thicker welds.=C2=
=A0 If I was going to weld 1/4" plate a 240V mig would be better.=C2=A0Chad=
 in Tulsa
      From: Andrew Uprichard <[email-masked]>
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[email-masked]] On Behalf Of James_ via 6pack
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:59 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair quote... =C2=A0Th=
anks everyone for the great words and advice. =C2=A0I want a good job and g=
et her on the road so i can drive it. but with all these rusted out section=
s, i need to repair them first. =C2=A0I am totally tempted to go out, buy a=
 TIG welder (a bit expensive) and LEARN to weld!Seriously. I haven't seen a=
ny welding classes over the summer, but there will be many in the Fall. But=
 I can teach myself and find friends of friendsinstruct me.I would not do t=
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on. =C2=A0So most sections I need are flat sections. Except for the crazy c=
orner section directly under the fuse box, master cylinder area.Which leads=
 me to this: If I can locate a perfect salvaged inner fender and wheel arch=
 that I can extract this crazy multi-sidedsection. I simply cut out the bad=
 and have someone weld in the good replacement. saves fabricating from scra=
tch. or do it myself.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Anyone have a good source to find donor p=
anels: wheel arch/inner fender sections?Ideally here in Oregon, but willing=
 to pay for shipping. Be even nicer if someone has the small section I need=
 and not have to ruin a good part that is intact. =C2=A0Thanks. =C2=A0James=
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an id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127921">Actually a TIG welder is the be=
st, but a MIG will work fine.&nbsp; For mild steel you will want mixed gas =
(75% CO2 / 25% Argon).&nbsp; I have a 110V MIG.&nbsp; On a 20A circuit it w=
orks just fine.....even on thicker welds.&nbsp; If I was going to weld 1/4"=
 plate a 240V mig would be better.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span></spa=
n>&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Chad in Tulsa</span></div><br>  <div i=
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richard.net&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> tr=
[email-masked] <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</spa=
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id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127924" style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Hopefully a typo, b=
ut what you need is a MIG welder, not TIG.</span></div><div class=3D"yiv311=
8432418MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127928"><span style=3D'c=
olor: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11=
pt;'> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_1_1433941020044_127930"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127929"=
 style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; fo=
nt-size: 11pt;'>Hey =E2=80=93 I am a physician and bought myself a MIG weld=
er, found a local welder and said =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9Cteach me to weld!=E2=
=80=9D&nbsp; I still can=E2=80=99t run a decent bead (so I don=E2=80=99t do=
 any structural work, like frames, but good spot welds suffice for the majo=
rity of repairs (including floors).</span></div><div class=3D"yiv3118432418=
MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127931"><span style=3D'color: r=
gb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> &=
nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1433941020044_127964"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: =
"Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Two tips:</span></div><div class=
=3D"yiv3118432418MsoListParagraph" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127966"=
><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-seri=
f"; font-size: 11pt;'><span>-<span style=3D'font: 7pt/normal "Times New Rom=
an"; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_1_1433941020044_127965" style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Ca=
libri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Buy a welder with a tank of argon:&=
nbsp; in my experience the fluxed wire just isn=E2=80=99t as good</span></d=
iv><div class=3D"yiv3118432418MsoListParagraph"><span style=3D'color: rgb(3=
1, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'><span>=
-<span style=3D'font: 7pt/normal "Times New Roman"; font-size-adjust: none;=
 font-stretch: normal;'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; </span></span></span><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-famil=
y: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>240 amps makes for a much bet=
ter weld </span></div><div class=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_1_1433941020044_127967"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-fami=
ly: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> &nbsp;</span></div><div cla=
ss=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-=
family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Andrew Uprichard</span><=
/div><div class=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044=
_127968"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "s=
ans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> &nbsp;</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
433941020044_127973"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127972" style=3D=
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"><b><span style=3D'font-family: "Tahoma", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>=
From:</span></b><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127970" style=3D'fon=
t-family: "Tahoma", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'> 6pack [<a id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_1_1433941020044_127969" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James_ =
via 6pack<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a=
 id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127974" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] Floorpan replac=
ement and Rust repair quote...</span></div></div></div><div class=3D"yiv311=
8432418MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127975"> &nbsp;</div><di=
v id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127978"><div class=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNo=
rmal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127977"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_143=
3941020044_127976" style=3D'font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif";'>Thanks e=
veryone for the great words and advice.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1=
_1433941020044_127981"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127980"><div c=
lass=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127979"><s=
pan style=3D'font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif";'> &nbsp;</span></div></d=
iv><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127985"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14=
33941020044_127984"><div class=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
1_1433941020044_127983"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127982" styl=
e=3D'font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif";'>I want a good job and get her o=
n the road so i can drive it. but with all these rusted out sections, i nee=
d to repair them first.</span></div></div></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_143=
3941020044_127987"><div class=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1=
_1433941020044_127986"><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif";=
'> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D'font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif";'>I am totally tempted to g=
o out, buy a TIG welder (a bit expensive) and LEARN to weld!</span></div></=
div><div><div class=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-family: =
"Calibri", "sans-serif";'>Seriously. I haven't seen any welding classes ove=
r the summer, but there will be many in the Fall. But I can teach myself an=
d find friends of friends</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv311843241=
8MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif";'>instruct =
me.</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D'font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif";'>I would not do the floor pans b=
ut at least the flat sections needing repair. One area is on the firewall&n=
bsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D'font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif";'>near the commission plates .&n=
bsp;probably a 1"x5" section.</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv31184=
32418MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif";'> &nbs=
p;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D'font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif";'>So most sections I need are flat=
 sections. Except for the crazy corner section directly under the fuse box,=
 master cylinder area.</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3118432418Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif";'>Which leads =
me to this: If I can locate a perfect salvaged inner fender and wheel arch =
that I can extract this crazy multi-sided</span></div></div><div><div class=
=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri", "sans-se=
rif";'>section. I simply cut out the bad and have someone weld in the good =
replacement. saves fabricating from scratch. or do it myself.&nbsp;</span><=
/div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-f=
amily: "Calibri", "sans-serif";'> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=
=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri", "sans-se=
rif";'>Anyone have a good source to find donor panels: wheel arch/inner fen=
der sections?</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif";'>Ideally here in Orego=
n, but willing to pay for shipping. Be even nicer if someone has the small =
section I need and not have to ruin a good part that is intact.</span></div=
></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-famil=
y: "Calibri", "sans-serif";'> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"y=
iv3118432418MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif";=
'>Thanks.</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D'font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif";'> &nbsp;</span></div></div=
><div><div class=3D"yiv3118432418MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-family: "Ca=
libri", "sans-serif";'>James</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv311843=
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From: "Alex&Janet Thomson" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:02:10 -0400

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I would agree - A wire feed machine is what an auto body person needs unless
you plan on doing a lot of aluminum or stainless steel work. The flux core
wire is fine for some structural work but chipping slag makes it difficult
to get a clean bead to either weld or paint over. There may be some
multi-function machines that will have constant current (stick & TIG) and
constant voltage (wire feed) features but cost may be an issue. I would
stick with a name brand machine and a name brand gun so that consumables
will always be available. I wouldn't buy a welder that has a different name
on it than who actually makes it. 120 Volt machines may be okay for sheet
metal but will probably max out at 100 amps or so. They also will have a 20
amp outlet pegged to the max! Go with a 240 volt (not amp) machine for when
you want to do frames or other projects. Those machines will provide a top
output of around 180 - 200 amp. Some machines have multi-voltage inputs
which make them really versatile. For shielding gas, an Argon/Carbon Dioxide
mix will usually work well at about 25 cubic feet/hour. A knowledgeable
welding distributor will steer you in the right direction after you have
talked to an experienced welder. Be prepared for a variety of opinions. Make
sure you have a safe place to weld! Sparks can linger for quite some time
when they land against wood and then they come back to haunt you.

Alex Thomson

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Andrew
Uprichard
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:24 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] FW: [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair quote...

Two tips:

Andrew Uprichard

instruct me.

Thanks.

James

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D'>I would agree &#8211; A wire feed machine is what an auto body person =
needs unless you plan on doing a lot of aluminum or stainless steel =
work. The flux core wire is fine for some structural work but chipping =
slag makes it difficult to get a clean bead to either weld or paint =
over. There may be some multi-function machines that will have constant =
current (stick &amp; TIG) and constant voltage (wire feed) features but =
cost may be an issue. I would stick with a name brand machine and a name =
brand gun so that consumables will always be available. I wouldn&#8217;t =
buy a welder that has a different name on it than who actually makes it. =
120 Volt machines may be okay for sheet metal but will probably max out =
at 100 amps or so. They also will have a 20 amp outlet pegged to the =
max! Go with a 240 volt (not amp) machine for when you want to do frames =
or other projects. Those machines will provide a top output of around =
180 &#8211; 200 amp. Some machines have multi-voltage inputs which make =
them really versatile. For shielding gas, an Argon/Carbon Dioxide mix =
will usually work well at about 25 cubic feet/hour. A knowledgeable =
welding distributor will steer you in the right direction after you have =
talked to an experienced welder. Be prepared for a variety of opinions. =
Make sure you have a safe place to weld! Sparks can linger for quite =
some time when they land against wood and then they come back to haunt =
you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
D'>Alex Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Andrew Uprichard<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:24 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] FW: =
[6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair =
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Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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From: "Andrew Uprichard" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:34:28 -0400

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Sorry to pursue the point, but for someone who has never welded before, =
I would still say MIG is the way to go.  I am not arguing about the =
merits of the two, but was responding to a novice (like me) who was =
thinking about welding patches on a car.  And by =E2=80=9Ca tank of =
argon=E2=80=9D I was referring to the mixed gases =E2=80=93 but again =
drawing a distinction between the two ways one can get going with a MIG =
welder.

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Wow =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99ll keep my mouth shut in =
future=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6

=20

Andrew Uprichard

=20

From: Chad [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:42 PM
To: Andrew Uprichard; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] FW: [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair =
quote...

=20

Actually a TIG welder is the best, but a MIG will work fine.  For mild =
steel you will want mixed gas (75% CO2 / 25% Argon).  I have a 110V MIG. =
 On a 20A circuit it works just fine.....even on thicker welds.  If I =
was going to weld 1/4" plate a 240V mig would be better.

=20

Chad in Tulsa

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  _____ =20

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Hey =E2=80=93 I am a physician and bought myself a MIG welder, found a =
local welder and said =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9Cteach me to weld!=E2=80=9D  I =
still can=E2=80=99t run a decent bead (so I don=E2=80=99t do any =
structural work, like frames, but good spot welds suffice for the =
majority of repairs (including floors).

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Two tips:

-          Buy a welder with a tank of argon:  in my experience the =
fluxed wire just isn=E2=80=99t as good

-          240 amps makes for a much better weld=20

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Andrew Uprichard

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From: 6pack [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of James_ =
via 6pack
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:59 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair quote...

=20

=20

I want a good job and get her on the road so i can drive it. but with =
all these rusted out sections, i need to repair them first.

=20

I am totally tempted to go out, buy a TIG welder (a bit expensive) and =
LEARN to weld!

Seriously. I haven't seen any welding classes over the summer, but there =
will be many in the Fall. But I can teach myself and find friends of =
friends

instruct me.

I would not do the floor pans but at least the flat sections needing =
repair. One area is on the firewall=20

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So most sections I need are flat sections. Except for the crazy corner =
section directly under the fuse box, master cylinder area.

Which leads me to this: If I can locate a perfect salvaged inner fender =
and wheel arch that I can extract this crazy multi-sided

section. I simply cut out the bad and have someone weld in the good =
replacement. saves fabricating from scratch. or do it myself.=20

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Anyone have a good source to find donor panels: wheel arch/inner fender =
sections?

Ideally here in Oregon, but willing to pay for shipping. Be even nicer =
if someone has the small section I need and not have to ruin a good part =
that is intact.

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Thanks.

=20

James

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Sorry to pursue the point, but for someone who has never welded =
before, I would still say MIG is the way to go.=C2=A0 I am not arguing =
about the merits of the two, but was responding to a novice (like me) =
who was thinking about welding patches on a car.=C2=A0 And by =E2=80=9Ca =
tank of argon=E2=80=9D I was referring to the mixed gases =E2=80=93 but =
again drawing a distinction between the two ways one can get going with =
a MIG welder.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Wow =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99ll keep my mouth shut in =
future=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Andrew Uprichard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Chad [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June =
10, 2015 5:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> Andrew Uprichard; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] FW: [6pack] Floorpan =
replacement and Rust repair quote...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127920"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>Actually a TIG welder is the best, but a MIG will work fine.&nbsp; For =
mild steel you will want mixed gas (75% CO2 / 25% Argon).&nbsp; I have a =
110V MIG.&nbsp; On a 20A circuit it works just fine.....even on thicker =
welds.&nbsp; If I was going to weld 1/4&quot; plate a 240V mig would be =
better.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>Chad in Tulsa<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127918"><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127917"><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127916"><div class=3DMsoNormal =
align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=3D1 =
width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter></span></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>F=
rom:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> =
Andrew Uprichard &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:24 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> =
[TR] FW: [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair =
quote...</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127923"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv3118432418><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127927"><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127926"><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127925"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hopefully a typo, but what you need is a MIG welder, not =
TIG.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127928"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127930"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hey =E2=80=93 I am a physician and bought myself a MIG welder, found =
a local welder and said =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9Cteach me to =
weld!=E2=80=9D&nbsp; I still can=E2=80=99t run a decent bead (so I =
don=E2=80=99t do any structural work, like frames, but good spot welds =
suffice for the majority of repairs (including floors).</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127931"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127964"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Two tips:</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127966"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>-</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Buy a welder with a tank of argon:&nbsp; in my experience the fluxed =
wire just isn=E2=80=99t as good</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>-</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>240 amps makes for a much better weld </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127967"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Andrew Uprichard</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127968"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127973"><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;border-color:currentColor currentColor' =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127972"><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127971"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
 6pack [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127969">mailto:[email-masked].=
net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James_ via 6pack<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, =
June 10, 2015 3:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127974">[email-masked]</a><br><b>S=
ubject:</b> Re: [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair =
quote...</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127975"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o=
:p></span></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127978"><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127977"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks everyone =
for the great words and advice.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127981"><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127980"><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127979"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;</span><sp=
an =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127985"><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127984"><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127983"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I want a good =
job and get her on the road so i can drive it. but with all these rusted =
out sections, i need to repair them first.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433941020044_127987"><div =
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style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;</span><sp=
an =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I am totally =
tempted to go out, buy a TIG welder (a bit expensive) and LEARN to =
weld!</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Seriously. I =
haven't seen any welding classes over the summer, but there will be many =
in the Fall. But I can teach myself and find friends of =
friends</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>instruct =
me.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I would not do =
the floor pans but at least the flat sections needing repair. One area =
is on the firewall&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>near the =
commission plates .&nbsp;probably a 1&quot;x5&quot; section.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;</span><sp=
an =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>So most =
sections I need are flat sections. Except for the crazy corner section =
directly under the fuse box, master cylinder area.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Which leads me =
to this: If I can locate a perfect salvaged inner fender and wheel arch =
that I can extract this crazy multi-sided</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>section. I =
simply cut out the bad and have someone weld in the good replacement. =
saves fabricating from scratch. or do it myself.&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;</span><sp=
an =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Anyone have a =
good source to find donor panels: wheel arch/inner fender =
sections?</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Ideally here in =
Oregon, but willing to pay for shipping. Be even nicer if someone has =
the small section I need and not have to ruin a good part that is =
intact.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
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an =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks.</span><s=
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Sorry - I of course meant 240 Volts.  Still recovering from the TR3 falling
off the jack, I guess...

From: Alex&Janet Thomson [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 6:02 PM
To: 'Andrew Uprichard'; [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [TR] FW: [6pack] Floorpan replacement and Rust repair quote...

Alex Thomson

Two tips:

Andrew Uprichard

instruct me.

Thanks.

James

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> Hopefully a typo, but what you need is a MIG welder, not TIG.
TIG is slow, but, properly done, will produce a bead far superior to MIG 
welding and will likely put less heat overall into the metal, reducing 
the amount of distortion and the amount of finishing required, and it's 
the near-perfect process for tacking in patch panels before final 
welding.  TIG also has the benefit of using pretty much the same hand 
skills as oxy-acetylene welding, so if one starts on that process in a 
welding class, it's much easier to get the hang of TIG.  Moreover, the 
control available through the foot pedal makes an enormous difference in 
weld quality.

MIG is faster, a little cheaper, but quite splattery and noisy and takes 
a fair amount of practice to achieve optimum weld penetration.  Today, I 
think of MIG as a production process, mainly, and for joining in places 
requiring little cosmetic finishing.

One can buy cheap MIG machines with limited speed control, so the 
equipment can be had fairly cheaply, but the results very often aren't 
that good.  A high-end MIG machine suitable for skilled amateur use, 
though, is not that much cheaper than an inverter-based TIG welder good 
for 160-200 A or so, with the added benefit that most TIG machines are 
fairly easily convertible to AC or DC stick welding with an electrode 
holder change.  Providing that the machine has suitable high-frequency 
AC, TIG also does a superior job on sheet aluminum.  Additionally, if 
one doesn't have a spot-welding attachment, one can do solid substitutes 
for spot-welded flanges by drilling holes in one flange and using rose 
beads.  More time-consuming, but quite strong, and difficult to do with 
MIG (unless one cuts slots in the flange).

In terms you'll understand, TIG is a scalpel.  MIG is a hatchet.  I 
don't say this as an amateur.  For a number of years, I built prototype 
machines, air handling equipment and the like, and probably couldn't 
have done much of it without TIG. For the amateur who's not concerned 
with production speed, mastering TIG is a valuable skill, one that pays 
real dividends over MIG.

Cheers.

-- 

Michael Porter
Roswell, NM

Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance....

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    TIG is slow, but, properly done, will produce a bead far superior to
    MIG welding and will likely put less heat overall into the metal,
    reducing the amount of distortion and the amount of finishing
    required, and it's the near-perfect process for tacking in patch
    panels before final welding.  TIG also has the benefit of using
    pretty much the same hand skills as oxy-acetylene welding, so if one
    starts on that process in a welding class, it's much easier to get
    the hang of TIG.  Moreover, the control available through the foot
    pedal makes an enormous difference in weld quality.  <br>
    <br>
    MIG is faster, a little cheaper, but quite splattery and noisy and
    takes a fair amount of practice to achieve optimum weld
    penetration.  Today, I think of MIG as a production process, mainly,
    and for joining in places requiring little cosmetic finishing.<br>
    <br>
    One can buy cheap MIG machines with limited speed control, so the
    equipment can be had fairly cheaply, but the results very often
    aren't that good.  A high-end MIG machine suitable for skilled
    amateur use, though, is not that much cheaper than an inverter-based
    TIG welder good for 160-200 A or so, with the added benefit that
    most TIG machines are fairly easily convertible to AC or DC stick
    welding with an electrode holder change.  Providing that the machine
    has suitable high-frequency AC, TIG also does a superior job on
    sheet aluminum.  Additionally, if one doesn't have a spot-welding
    attachment, one can do solid substitutes for spot-welded flanges by
    drilling holes in one flange and using rose beads.  More
    time-consuming, but quite strong, and difficult to do with MIG
    (unless one cuts slots in the flange).<br>
    <br>
    In terms you'll understand, TIG is a scalpel.  MIG is a hatchet.  I
    don't say this as an amateur.  For a number of years, I built
    prototype machines, air handling equipment and the like, and
    probably couldn't have done much of it without TIG. For the amateur
    who's not concerned with production speed, mastering TIG is a
    valuable skill, one that pays real dividends over MIG.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Cheers.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 

Michael Porter
Roswell, NM

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