Subject: Re: [TR] problem with clutch

From: Geo Hahn <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:51:48 -0700

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On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Randall <[email-masked]> wrote:

> ...If moving the slave to the other side of the bracket solved your
> problem, then you very likely have a broken taper pin.
>

A broken pin will cause some strange behavior.  I believe I have driven
with a broken one for more than 30 years.  The clutch still works fine and
feels normal so long as I omit connecting the external return spring from
the fork to the flange.  If that is connected then the TOB is withdrawn so
far that the slave action will not disengage the clutch.

Thinking of the mechanics of it, it is possible mine would work with the
slave mounted on the other side (sort of the same effect as not using the
full return).

I could fix it but it works so I am waiting until I need a clutch or other
work requiring removing the gearbox.  And I wait & wait.

Geo

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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:38:46 -0400

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Randall <[email-masked]> wrote:
> Uh, Dave, your photo actually shows a Girling slave, mounted in the correct
> manner for a Girling slave.  The workshop manual photo is of a Lockheed
> slave, which was mounted differently.

I seem to recall a note included with my replacement slave cylinder
(from TRF) that said something to the effect that, even though it was
machined to have one face against the bracket, it should be put in
with the other face against the bracket.  Whether it was Girling or
Lockheed, I cannot recall...

Jeff Scarbrough
Corrosion Acres, Ga.