Subject: [TR] Powder coating

From: "Fisher, Ed" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:58:24 +0000

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Here is a message I copied and saved from the year 2000, and it was from Fr=
ed Thomas, a true gentleman.  I bought the Harbor Freight unit he suggested=
, still have it, and we have powder coated many, many parts with it.  I was=
 trying to teach my teenage son that there isn't much you can't learn and f=
igure out with a little curiosity and getting past the fear of admitting th=
at you 'don't know it all', so I mailed Fred personally and he sent me a ma=
nila envelope full of instructions and pictures to get us started.  I used =
that goodwill gesture to show my son, now grown and gone, the caliber of pe=
ople in the world ready and willing to help others, even virtual strangers.=
  He is now in a profession helping others.

As another lister suggested, get an old electric oven and cure your parts i=
n there.  I even made an insulated extension that fit over the door, in ope=
ned position, to the oven, which effectively doubled the depth allowing me =
to PC longer parts; valve covers and such.  The powdered parts don't really=
 care about thermal uniformity, as long as the parts get hot enough for lon=
g enough it will flow.  I think 375F for about 20 minutes in a pre heated o=
ven usually did the trick unless the parts have a big mass, then just exten=
d.  Below is Fred's message.  May he rest in peace, and may we remember the=
 goodwill he exemplified.

Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:17:45 -0500
From: "Fred Thomas" <[email-masked]>
Subject: powder-coat

Listers, anyone thinking of doing P/C and have not purchased a kit yet, you
should check out the kit from Harbour-Freight (99.00), much more sturdier
and heavier built than Eastwoods, several added features the other kit does
not have, such as, foot feed instead of a handle held electric charge to th=
e
coated part, this leaves you with a free hand, 2 seperate air control vavle=
s
for more even air flow, gravity feed over head cup container, instead of ai=
r
pushing the powder out, and a much heavier transformer supply box, nice
unit, I received mine today, try it tomorrow. If you have any interest, you
can check it out on their web page item #  42802 @ www.harbourfreight.com
"FT"

Ed Fisher
Dallas, Tx

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here is a message I copied and saved from the year 2=
000, and it was from Fred Thomas, a true gentleman.&nbsp; I bought the Harb=
or Freight unit he suggested, still have it, and we have powder coated many=
, many parts with it.&nbsp; I was trying to
 teach my teenage son that there isn&#8217;t much you can&#8217;t learn and=
 figure out with a little curiosity and getting past the fear of admitting =
that you &#8216;don&#8217;t know it all&#8217;, so I mailed Fred personally=
 and he sent me a manila envelope full of instructions and pictures
 to get us started.&nbsp; I used that goodwill gesture to show my son, now =
grown and gone, the caliber of people in the world ready and willing to hel=
p others, even virtual strangers.&nbsp; He is now in a profession helping o=
thers.&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">As another lister suggested, get an old electric ove=
n and cure your parts in there.&nbsp; I even made an insulated extension th=
at fit over the door, in opened position, to the oven, which effectively do=
ubled the depth allowing me to PC longer
 parts; valve covers and such.&nbsp; The powdered parts don&#8217;t really =
care about thermal uniformity, as long as the parts get hot enough for long=
 enough it will flow.&nbsp; I think 375F for about 20 minutes in a pre heat=
ed oven usually did the trick unless the parts have
 a big mass, then just extend.&nbsp; Below is Fred&#8217;s message.&nbsp; M=
ay he rest in peace, and may we remember the goodwill he exemplified.<o:p><=
/o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:17:45 -0500<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">From: &quot;Fred Thomas&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&g=
t;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Subject: powder-coat<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Listers, anyone thinking of doing P/C and have not p=
urchased a kit yet, you<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">should check out the kit from Harbour-Freight (99.00=
), much more sturdier<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">and heavier built than Eastwoods, several added feat=
ures the other kit does<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">not have, such as, foot feed instead of a handle hel=
d electric charge to the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">coated part, this leaves you with a free hand, 2 sep=
erate air control vavles<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">for more even air flow, gravity feed over head cup c=
ontainer, instead of air<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">pushing the powder out, and a much heavier transform=
er supply box, nice<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">unit, I received mine today, try it tomorrow. If you=
 have any interest, you<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">can check it out on their web page item #&nbsp; 4280=
2 @ www.harbourfreight.com<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&quot;FT&quot;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ed Fisher<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dallas, Tx<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: Keith Stewart <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 17:21:56 -0400

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> On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Ed Fisher wrote:
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> Here is a message I copied and saved from the year 2000, and it was =
from Fred Thomas, a true gentleman. =20

Couldn=E2=80=99t agree with you more. Any time I see anything related to =
Powder Coating, it brings a smile to my face as I remember time spent =
with Fred. I was honoured to be asked to say a few words about Fred at =
TRF=E2=80=99s Summer Party following Fred=E2=80=99s passing. On another =
occasion, my wife Chris and I made notes on Fred=E2=80=99s July 14, 2007 =
presentation on Powder Coating at Summer Party that year. At that time, =
I offered to share those notes and pictures with anyone interested. Here =
is what I wrote at that time:
(Note: these notes, augmented by photos of Fred=E2=80=99s setup were =
made by Keith and Christine Stewart during Fred=E2=80=99s workshop at =
The Roadster Factory=E2=80=99s Summer Party in July of 2007. After =
Fred=E2=80=99s passing, March 10, 2011, the notes are shared with any =
enthusiasts wanting a copy. Let us all remember our good friend, Fred =
Thomas =E2=80=93 I miss you pal.)

If anyone is still interested, I would be happy to share those notes. =
Just PM me.

Cheers
Keith

Keith Stewart
<<< please note my new email address below >>>
keithstewartATbellDOTnet

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be asked to say a few words about Fred at TRF=E2=80=99s Summer Party =
following Fred=E2=80=99s passing. On another occasion, my wife Chris and =
I made notes on Fred=E2=80=99s July 14, 2007 presentation on Powder =
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From: "Randall" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 15:50:41 -0700

> Perhaps someone on the list can 
> tell us if they 
> have the system Fred was referring-to or if it's the same as 
> the one here:
> 
> http://www.harborfreight.com/10-30-psi-powder-coating-system-94244.html
> 

I bought mine about the same time Fred posted that, and it is visibly different than the photo currently on the HF site.  But the
differences I see look trivial, just the shape of the power supply, and mine didn't come with the air filter or quick connect
fitting.  The gun itself looks exactly the same.

Fred truly was a gentleman (in spite of the occasional spat both on and off the list), and I never found a way to repay him for all
his kindness to me.  I miss him.

-- Randall