Subject: Re: [TR] Distributor help

From: "dave n" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 21:33:17 -0500

if you send it to advanced distributors, 
http://www.advanceddistributors.com/

they can add pertronix or leave stock, modify the curve, fix the vacuum 
advance, etc.  it will be completely redone inside and out, plus look like 
jewelry.  very affordable imho and very much worth it.

I had them do my tr6 dizzy and could absolutely tell the difference when it 
came back with the pertronix.  couldn't have been more pleased.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Randall
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 8:14 PM
To: 'Pete Ryner' ; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Distributor help

> I have a '56 TR3 with a 40798B Lucas distributor installed.

What are the numbers on the vacuum advance unit?  There should be a 6 or 8 
digit part number, like 54413565 and also a set of 3
numbers separated by dashes, like 2-6-3.  (Those are the number for the 
40795 distributor, yours will be different but similar.  I'd
like to have them for my database.)

> Can anyone give me an idea of where this
> distributor is used?

I have it listed in my database for 66-67 TR4A with high compression, but 
can't find any indication of that in the Lucas catalogs or
Triumph documentation so it is probably a mistake of some sort.  A little 
poking around with Google turned up applications like
Singer Gazelle and Hillman Hunter.

> It obviously can be used in a TR3, but
> what is the difference from the ones listed in the parts
> books?

The functional difference will be the advance curves (both centrifugal and 
vacuum).  Compared to a 40480 (which is listed for later
56 TR3), the 40798 gives quite a bit less advance up to roughly 2500 rpm, 
then lets it go several degrees higher by 5000 rpm.

But of course, since the parts all interchange, it is quite possible that 
someone has modified the advance curve to almost anything.

Mechanically, it's a model 25D so there are lots of differences with the 
model DM2 that would be original to your 56 TR3.

> Finally, does anyone know of a place to find a vacuum
> unit for this distributor?

Any of the 25D advance units will fit and work.  To be on the safe side, 
stick with one that provides roughly the same advance or
less.

Another alternative may be to have your local independent auto parts store 
send it out for rebuild.  I did that many years ago and
was very happy with the results.  The result looked and worked like new, and 
cost less than buying new.  Turnaround was 3 or 4 days
as I recall. 

** [email-masked] **

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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 07:56:26 -0400

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On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 10:33 PM, dave n <[email-masked]> wrote:

> if you send it to advanced distributors, http://www.
> advanceddistributors.com/
>
> they can add pertronix or leave stock,
>

Interesting that he says " I WILL NOT install a Pertronix in a TR6 and will
do everything in my power to talk you into using points!!!"

I wonder why?

Jeff Scarbrough
Corrosion Acres, Ga.

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On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 10:33 PM, dave n <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
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:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=3D":21e" class=3D"" style=3D"overflow:hidd=
en">if you send it to advanced distributors, <a href=3D"http://www.advanced=
distributors.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.<u></u>advanceddistributors=
.com/</a><br>
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they can add pertronix or leave stock,</div></blockquote></div><br>Interest=
ing that he says &quot;=C2=A0I WILL NOT install a Pertronix in a TR6 and wi=
ll do everything in my power to talk you into using points!!!&quot;</div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">I wonder why?=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Jeff =
Scarbrough</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Corrosion Acres, Ga.</div></div>

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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 17:56:34 +0000 (UTC)

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i also was very happy with Jeff when he rebuilt my disy.it was just a few b=
ucks more than i could buy the parts to do it myself.i did not like his sug=
gestions on initial static timing. it was horrible on my car and on 2 frien=
ds cars.i found the factory settings where best.no complaints, just working=
 the new pat into the old.
frank

      From: dave n <[email-masked]>
 To: [email-masked]=20
 Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 7:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [TR] Distributor help
  =20
if you send it to advanced distributors,=20
http://www.advanceddistributors.com/

they can add pertronix or leave stock, modify the curve, fix the vacuum=20
advance, etc.=C2=A0 it will be completely redone inside and out, plus look =
like=20
jewelry.=C2=A0 very affordable imho and very much worth it.

I had them do my tr6 dizzy and could absolutely tell the difference when it=
=20
came back with the pertronix.=C2=A0 couldn't have been more pleased.

-----Original Message-----=20
From: Randall
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 8:14 PM
To: 'Pete Ryner' ; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Distributor help

> I have a '56 TR3 with a 40798B Lucas distributor installed.

What are the numbers on the vacuum advance unit?=C2=A0 There should be a 6 =
or 8=20
digit part number, like 54413565 and also a set of 3
numbers separated by dashes, like 2-6-3.=C2=A0 (Those are the number for th=
e=20
40795 distributor, yours will be different but similar.=C2=A0 I'd
like to have them for my database.)

> Can anyone give me an idea of where this

I have it listed in my database for 66-67 TR4A with high compression, but=
=20
can't find any indication of that in the Lucas catalogs or
Triumph documentation so it is probably a mistake of some sort.=C2=A0 A lit=
tle=20
poking around with Google turned up applications like
Singer Gazelle and Hillman Hunter.

> what is the difference from the ones listed in the parts

The functional difference will be the advance curves (both centrifugal and=
=20
vacuum).=C2=A0 Compared to a 40480 (which is listed for later
56 TR3), the 40798 gives quite a bit less advance up to roughly 2500 rpm,=
=20
then lets it go several degrees higher by 5000 rpm.

But of course, since the parts all interchange, it is quite possible that=
=20
someone has modified the advance curve to almost anything.

Mechanically, it's a model 25D so there are lots of differences with the=20
model DM2 that would be original to your 56 TR3.

> unit for this distributor?

Any of the 25D advance units will fit and work.=C2=A0 To be on the safe sid=
e,=20
stick with one that provides roughly the same advance or
less.

Another alternative may be to have your local independent auto parts store=
=20
send it out for rebuild.=C2=A0 I did that many years ago and
was very happy with the results.=C2=A0 The result looked and worked like ne=
w, and=20
cost less than buying new.=C2=A0 Turnaround was 3 or 4 days
as I recall.=20

[email-masked]

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