Subject: [TR] Other Triumph forums

From: Pete Arakelian <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 18:37:57 +0000

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My problem with forums is you have so many different and similar threads go=
ing at the same time under different titles, locations, etc.  Here it all j=
ust streams along.  I often find out about stuff I would not have normally =
looked at on a forum.

Peter

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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 19:33:36 +0000 (UTC)

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and this comes to me automatically.i don't have to go search

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From: "Randall" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:02:45 -0700

>      Is there another way to attract list members? Should 
> someone make up a new webpage to show people how to sign on?

>      Is there a way to get the old webpage with the 
> non-working links taken down to not frustrate and confuse 
> potential list members?

This is purely a WAG, and I don't mean to step on anyone's toes.  But it seems to me that one good solution might be for someone
with the necessary skills to step up and offer to help MJB with maintaining the Team.Net web pages.  It is my impression that he is
very busy with other aspects of his life (eg wife, kids, charitable projects, not to mention a new job) along with keeping the list
server alive and well.    He does a great job, but there is only so much that one man can do.

I don't know what happened to Roger Garnett (whose name is on many of the Team.Net/SOL web pages), but it appears (to me) that he
quit being involved with Team.Net a long time ago. (Some poking about with Google suggests he went over to the octagonal side of the
force about 10 years ago.)  Any volunteers for a replacement?

> Are other 
> listers on other forums? If so, how is it? I feel like I am 
> converting religions or something.

I'm on several web forums, including Triumph Experience and BCF.  They're OK, but in all honesty I prefer the Team.Net list format,
especially now that it supports photos and HTML.  Still, I think you have an excellent point, the web forums are where the new
members are showing up.  Mail lists are _so_ 20th century <G>

The downside of picking up new members is that they also pick up spammers and trolls, both of which we have remarkably little of on
Team.Net.

-- Randall

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From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 19:43:35 -0400 (EDT)

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I've been on the Mail List since 1997 but rarely participate... more on tha=
t
later on..

My thoughts are this.......... in 1997 the Internet was relatively new with=
 most
people in the early to mid 90's using services like AOL, Prodigy, Comp-u-se=
rve
etc. Netscape Navigator was the "first" browser and that came out around 19=
95 so
there wasn't much graphics in those days. Everyone was on slow Dial-up and =
a
text based Mail List made sense for most "communities" with common interest=
s. No
graphics, no attachments, no pictures, no HTML.... just plain text. Today
however, most
everyone has a high speed connection that streams video with no problem. Wh=
o
could have foreseen that in 1995? In the past 10 years many mail lists have
migrated to
community Forums where everything is organized by topic with pictures and v=
ideo
allowed.

With the growth of the Forums, specifically 6-Pack and BCF, many Mail List
members have moved on to keep up with the times..... for me a picture speak=
s a
thousand words when I have a problem. But the other interesting thing is th=
at
TR6 participation for both the Mail List and BCF has dropped significantly =
to
the point where the vast majority of the posts are TR3 (1st), TR4 (2nd) and=
 TR6
last. I recently logged into BCF and found 2 TR6 posts in the first 30 post=
s. We
TR6 owners have mostly moved to 6-Pack. All the posts are grouped specific =
to
a subject: electrical, mechanical, body etc.... and there's even an Off Top=
ic
section.
=20
Yes we can get off topic but IMHO, it's full of super smart helpful guys (j=
ust
like the Mail List)
who can solve any problem (just like the Mail List).=20
=20
Bob Danielson
http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org

> On March 31, 2015 at 11:15 AM Bill Brewer <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Is it just me or is our Triumph forum waning? I have been a list member
> for about 17 years now and still use the term =E2=80=9Cfluif=E2=80=9D for=
 those of you that
> remember that string. I recently changed email accounts and found that th=
e
> Scions of Lucas website for logging on to our list doesn=E2=80=99t work a=
nymore
> (http://www.team.net/sol/sollists.html ). If someone can find the list th=
en
> they can=E2=80=99t sign on. I figured out how to sign on to the list agai=
n by asking
> Randall. Based on that and the number of posts recently, I would be betti=
ng
> that our membership is dwindling.
>
> Is there another way to attract list members? Should someone make up a
> new webpage to show people how to sign on?
>
> Is there a way to get the old webpage with the non-working links taken
> down to not frustrate and confuse potential list members?
>
>
>
> I have been considering dropping out of Triumph list and going to the
> six-pack forum and the Triumph Experience forum (http://www.triumphexp.co=
m/ ),
> but am reluctant to do it being that I have been in this list so long. Ar=
e
> other listers on other forums? If so, how is it? I feel like I am convert=
ing
> religions or something.
>
>
>
> Years ago, I was on a Mini-Cooper forum. We had a SOL forum and the
> Mini-Cooper guys (a bunch of rabid Chihuahuas) got all spun up on each ot=
her
> and got into a list flame war. Everyone migrated to another forum and the=
 list
> died. Bizarre. Maybe the list forums have a useful life or half-life.
>
>
>
> I would be interested to know what other listers think on the subject.
>
>
>
> Bill Brewer
>
> Tehachapi, CA
>
>
>

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Bob Danielson
TR6 & TR4
Custom Interior Panels
Boot Covers &
Fender Blankets
http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm
http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/FenderBlanket.htm
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gy, Comp-u-serve
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ame out around 1995 so
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h common interests. No
   <br />graphics, no attachments, no pictures, no HTML.... just plain text=
. Today however, most
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oblem. Who
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res and video
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   <br />=20
   <br />With the growth of the Forums, specifically 6-Pack and BCF, many M=
ail List
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ure speaks a
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ing is that
   <br />TR6 participation for both the Mail List and BCF has dropped signi=
ficantly to
   <br />the point where the vast majority of the posts are TR3 (1st), TR4 =
(2nd) and TR6
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t 30 posts. We
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specific to
  </div>=20
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Off Topic section.
  </div>=20
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   &#160;
  </div>=20
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guys (just like the Mail List)
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   &#160;
  </div>=20
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   Bob Danielson
  </div>=20
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   http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org
  </div>=20
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   <br />=20
   <br />=20
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   <br />&#62; On March 31, 2015 at 11:15 AM Bill Brewer &#60;billbrewer59@=
yahoo.com&#62; wrote:
   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62; Is it just me or is our Triumph forum waning? I have been a =
list member
   <br />&#62; for about 17 years now and still use the term =E2=80=9Cfluif=
=E2=80=9D for those of you that
   <br />&#62; remember that string. I recently changed email accounts and =
found that the
   <br />&#62; Scions of Lucas website for logging on to our list doesn=E2=
=80=99t work anymore
   <br />&#62; (http://www.team.net/sol/sollists.html ). If someone can fin=
d the list then
   <br />&#62; they can=E2=80=99t sign on. I figured out how to sign on to =
the list again by asking
   <br />&#62; Randall. Based on that and the number of posts recently, I w=
ould be betting
   <br />&#62; that our membership is dwindling.
   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62; Is there another way to attract list members? Should someone=
 make up a
   <br />&#62; new webpage to show people how to sign on?
   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62; Is there a way to get the old webpage with the non-working l=
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   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62; I have been considering dropping out of Triumph list and goi=
ng to the
   <br />&#62; six-pack forum and the Triumph Experience forum (http://www.=
triumphexp.com/ ),
   <br />&#62; but am reluctant to do it being that I have been in this lis=
t so long. Are
   <br />&#62; other listers on other forums? If so, how is it? I feel like=
 I am converting
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   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62; Years ago, I was on a Mini-Cooper forum. We had a SOL forum =
and the
   <br />&#62; Mini-Cooper guys (a bunch of rabid Chihuahuas) got all spun =
up on each other
   <br />&#62; and got into a list flame war. Everyone migrated to another =
forum and the list
   <br />&#62; died. Bizarre. Maybe the list forums have a useful life or h=
alf-life.
   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62; I would be interested to know what other listers think on th=
e subject.
   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62; Bill Brewer=20
   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62; Tehachapi, CA
   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />&#62;=20
   <br />
   <br />=20
   <br />
   <br />&#62; ** [email-masked] **
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   <br />Bob Danielson
   <br />TR6 &#38; TR4
   <br />Custom Interior Panels
   <br />Boot Covers &#38;
   <br />Fender Blankets
   <br />http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm
   <br />http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/FenderBlanket.htm
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From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 20:56:19 -0700

On 3/31/15 4:43 PM, [email-masked] wrote:
My thoughts are this.......... in 1997 the Internet was relatively new 
with most
people in the early to mid 90's using services like AOL, Prodigy, 
Comp-u-serve
etc. Netscape Navigator was the "first" browser and that came out around 
1995 so
there wasn't much graphics in those days.

In 1997 I have been on the internet for over a decade (First connected 
in 1984) and the British car mailing list had just turned 11 years old.  
My first web browser was Mosaic which I first got a copy in 1994.  In 
1998 my Triumph web site was started.

Mosaic became Netscape Navigator.

Over the years I have joined several forums but seldom visited them.  
The push nature of email lists put the threads in front of me without my 
thinking about the forum then linking to one to see if there is anything 
new.  Maybe I'm too old fashioned but I much prefer to have the treads 
pushed to my emailer.  I do have a strong preference for being able to 
attach jpegs.

I for one never plan to abandon email lists for my primary fix.

TeriAnn

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From: "Randall" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 21:35:51 -0700

>  Maybe I'm too old fashioned but I much prefer to have 
> the treads 
> pushed to my emailer.  

Not sure if I should mention this, but BCF does offer the option of having new threads emailed to you.  But you only get one notice
per thread unless you click on the link in the email (to open the web page).  Kind of nice, since that means no subsequent messages
for threads that don't interest me.

-- Randall