Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A fan hub extension - removal?

From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 22:25:12 -0500

Just to be sure, have you removed long fan extension bolt 128319? It's the
hub on the crank shaft that normally gives me trouble.

Greg G.
Osseo, MN

> I need to remove the fan hub extension (part 128318).  I’ve taken the
> nuts off of the 6 bolts that pass through the pulley.  It seems still
> attached solidly.  Rusted in place perhaps?  Or is there something else to
> be done to get this piece off?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cliff
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I assume you've already removed the big dog bolt (128319) that goes through=
 the center and attaches to the crankshaft?

First, remove the 4 bolts holding the fan. You can then get to the dog bolt=
=2E The pulley and extension (107250) come off together. You may need to li=
ft the engine a little for it to slide all the way out. You can do that by =
loosening the two engine mounts and using a floor jack to raise it up. 

Johnnie

'67 TR4A

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Cliff
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 6:49 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] TR4A fan hub extension - removal?

I need to remove the fan hub extension (part 128318).  I=E2=80=99ve taken t=
he nuts off of the 6 bolts that pass through the pulley.  It seems still at=
tached solidly.  Rusted in place perhaps?  Or is there something else to be=
 done to get this piece off?

Thanks,

Cliff

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ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I assume yo=
u've already removed the big dog bolt (128319) that goes through the center=
 and attaches to the crankshaft?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
<span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F4=
97D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>First, remove th=
e 4 bolts holding the fan. You can then get to the dog bolt. The pulley and=
 extension (107250) come off together. You may need to lift the engine a li=
ttle for it to slide all the way out. You can do that by loosening the two =
engine mounts and using a floor jack to raise it up. <o:p></o:p></span></p>=
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R] TR4A fan hub extension - removal?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I need to remo=
ve the fan hub extension (part 128318).&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve taken the nuts o=
ff of the 6 bolts that pass through the pulley.&nbsp; It seems still attach=
ed solidly.&nbsp; Rusted in place perhaps?&nbsp; Or is there something else=
 to be done to get this piece off?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
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From: "Cliff" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:33:03 -0700

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No, I have not.  The diagram is perfectly clear, now.  And that bolt =
looks to be a real bugger.

Perhaps I shall abandon this plan.

Thanks,

Cliff

From: Thomas Boggiano=20
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 8:02 PM
To: Cliff=20
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A fan hub extension - removal?

Did you remove the large bolt in the front of the extension where the =
fan mounts
Tom

From: Cliff <[email-masked]>
Date: Monday, February 16, 2015 at 9:49 PM
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: [TR] TR4A fan hub extension - removal?

I need to remove the fan hub extension (part 128318).  I=E2=80=99ve =
taken the nuts off of the 6 bolts that pass through the pulley.  It =
seems still attached solidly.  Rusted in place perhaps?  Or is there =
something else to be done to get this piece off?

Thanks,

Cliff

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<DIV>No, I have not.&nbsp; The diagram is perfectly clear, now.&nbsp; =
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<DIV>Perhaps I shall abandon this plan.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
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<DIV>I need to remove the fan hub extension (part 128318).&nbsp; =
I=E2=80=99ve taken the=20
nuts off of the 6 bolts that pass through the pulley.&nbsp; It seems =
still=20
attached solidly.&nbsp; Rusted in place perhaps?&nbsp; Or is there =
something=20
else to be done to get this piece off?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Cliff</DIV>
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From: Chris Simo <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:15:19 -0500

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In a pinch, I put a big wrench on the dog bolt, disconnected the coil, duct
taped wrench against the frame and hit the starter.  Worked for me,  your
results may vary.

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<p dir=3D"ltr">In a pinch, I put a big wrench on the dog bolt, disconnected=
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orked for me,=C2=A0 your results may vary.</p>

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From: "Cliff" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:46:25 -0700

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So, I wanted to pull the fan hub extension because I wanted to fit an 8=20
blade plastic fan backwards.  However, the center hole in the fan is =
1/8=E2=80=9D=20
smaller than the diameter of the plate at the end of the fan extension.  =
I=20
was thinking of turning the fan extension down.

But now I think I'd rather not pull that dog bolt if I don't absolutely =
have=20
to.

Options:
1 - leave as is and put the original metal fan back on, at least, =
it=E2=80=99s a=20
semblance of a fan.
2 - mount the plastic fan frontwise and give up the access to the end of =
the=20
dog bolt.  Mounted frontwise the fan is only about 1/4" from the =
radiator.
3 - go modern and put an electric fan.

I'm guessing many on the list would choose Door Number 3.  But I'd =
really=20
rather have the plastic fan, if practical, because, well, its paid for.

Has anyone fitted one of these plastic fans, and if so, how did you =
mount=20
it?

Thanks in advance,

Cliff

From: davehogye=20
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:57 PM
To: Cliff=20
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A fan hub extension - removal?

Hi Cliff,
There is a hefty long bolt that connects it to the crank shaft.

Dave H.
Santa Cruz, CA

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From: "Cliff" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 6:49:26 PM
Subject: [TR] TR4A fan hub extension - removal?

Thanks,

Cliff

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face=3D"Times New Roman">So, I wanted to pull the fan hub extension =
because I=20
wanted to fit an 8 <BR>blade plastic fan backwards.&nbsp; However, the =
center=20
hole in the fan is 1/8=E2=80=9D <BR>smaller than the diameter of the =
plate at the end of=20
the fan extension.&nbsp; I <BR>was thinking of turning the fan extension =

down.<BR><BR>But now I think I'd rather not pull that dog bolt if I =
don't=20
absolutely have <BR>to.<BR><BR>Options:<BR>1 - leave as is and put the =
original=20
metal fan back on, at least, it=E2=80=99s a <BR>semblance of a fan.<BR>2 =
- mount the=20
plastic fan frontwise and give up the access to the end of the <BR>dog=20
bolt.&nbsp; Mounted frontwise the fan is only about 1/4" from the =
radiator.<BR>3=20
- go modern and put an electric fan.<BR><BR>I'm guessing many on the =
list would=20
choose Door Number 3.&nbsp; But I'd really <BR>rather have the plastic =
fan, if=20
practical, because, well, its paid for.<BR><BR>Has anyone fitted one of =
these=20
plastic fans, and if so, how did you mount <BR>it?<BR><BR>Thanks in=20
advance,<BR><BR>Cliff</FONT><BR><BR><BR>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">davehogye</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 16, 2015 7:57 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Cliff</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [TR] TR4A fan hub extension -=20
removal?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
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<DIV>Hi Cliff,</DIV>
<DIV>There is a hefty long bolt that connects it to the crank =
shaft.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Dave H.</DIV>
<DIV>Santa Cruz, CA</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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FONT-STYLE: normal"><B>From:=20
</B>"Cliff" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<BR><B>To:=20
</B>[email-masked]<BR><B>Sent: </B>Monday, February 16, 2015 =
6:49:26=20
PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>[TR] TR4A fan hub extension - removal?<BR>
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<DIV>I need to remove the fan hub extension (part 128318).&nbsp; =
I=E2=80=99ve taken the=20
nuts off of the 6 bolts that pass through the pulley.&nbsp; It seems =
still=20
attached solidly.&nbsp; Rusted in place perhaps?&nbsp; Or is there =
something=20
else to be done to get this piece off?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Cliff</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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If it were me I wouldn't worry too much about access to the dog bolt, =
not something you generally need to remove very often, and if you are =
doing something that requires removal of the bolt you probably are going =
to take the radiator out for access anyway, taking the radiator out of a =
4A is a pretty easy job, if you take the radiator out removing the fan =
is a piece of cake, am I missing something?

Also, wouldn't it be pretty easy to ream out the center hole in the =
plastic fan.

Greg

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<DIV><FONT face=3DCalibri>If it were me I wouldn't worry too much about =
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are going=20
to take the radiator out for access anyway, taking the radiator out of a =
4A is a=20
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piece of=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DCalibri>Also, wouldn't it be pretty easy to ream out =
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From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 22:45:33 -0600

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Option 4, enlarge the hole in the fan by 1/8"?

Sent from mobile Bill

On Feb 18, 2015, at 9:46 PM, Cliff <[email-masked]> wrote:

So, I wanted to pull the fan hub extension because I wanted to fit an 8=20
blade plastic fan backwards.  However, the center hole in the fan is 1/8=E2=80=
=9D=20
smaller than the diameter of the plate at the end of the fan extension.  I=20=

But now I think I'd rather not pull that dog bolt if I don't absolutely have=
=20
to.

Options:
1 - leave as is and put the original metal fan back on, at least, it=E2=80=99=
s a=20
semblance of a fan.
2 - mount the plastic fan frontwise and give up the access to the end of the=
=20
dog bolt.  Mounted frontwise the fan is only about 1/4" from the radiator.
3 - go modern and put an electric fan.

I'm guessing many on the list would choose Door Number 3.  But I'd really=20=

Has anyone fitted one of these plastic fans, and if so, how did you mount=20=

it?

Thanks in advance,

Cliff

=20
From: davehogye
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:57 PM
To: Cliff
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A fan hub extension - removal?
=20
Hi Cliff,
There is a hefty long bolt that connects it to the crank shaft.
=20
Dave H.
Santa Cruz, CA
=20
From: "Cliff" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 6:49:26 PM
Subject: [TR] TR4A fan hub extension - removal?
=20
I need to remove the fan hub extension (part 128318).  I=E2=80=99ve taken th=
e nuts off of the 6 bolts that pass through the pulley.  It seems still atta=
ched solidly.  Rusted in place perhaps?  Or is there something else to be do=
ne to get this piece off?
=20
Thanks,
=20
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=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Option 4, enlarge the hole in the fan b=
y 1/8"?<br><br>Sent from mobile Bill</div><div><br>On Feb 18, 2015, at 9:46 P=
M, Cliff &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">cliff_hansen@outloo=
k.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000"><font=
 face=3D"Times New Roman">So, I wanted to pull the fan hub extension because=
 I=20
wanted to fit an 8 <br>blade plastic fan backwards.&nbsp; However, the cente=
r=20
hole in the fan is 1/8=E2=80=9D <br>smaller than the diameter of the plate a=
t the end of=20
the fan extension.&nbsp; I <br>was thinking of turning the fan extension=20
down.<br><br>But now I think I'd rather not pull that dog bolt if I don't=20=

absolutely have <br>to.<br><br>Options:<br>1 - leave as is and put the origi=
nal=20
metal fan back on, at least, it=E2=80=99s a <br>semblance of a fan.<br>2 - m=
ount the=20
plastic fan frontwise and give up the access to the end of the <br>dog=20
bolt.&nbsp; Mounted frontwise the fan is only about 1/4" from the radiator.<=
br>3=20
- go modern and put an electric fan.<br><br>I'm guessing many on the list wo=
uld=20
choose Door Number 3.&nbsp; But I'd really <br>rather have the plastic fan, i=
f=20
practical, because, well, its paid for.<br><br>Has anyone fitted one of thes=
e=20
plastic fans, and if so, how did you mount <br>it?<br><br>Thanks in=20
advance,<br><br>Cliff</font><br><br><br>
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<div style=3D"font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]=
t" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">davehogye</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 16, 2015 7:57 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:cliff_h=
[email-masked]">Cliff</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR4A fan hub extension -=20
removal?</div></div></div>
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<div>Hi Cliff,</div>
<div>There is a hefty long bolt that connects it to the crank shaft.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Dave H.</div>
<div>Santa Cruz, CA</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">
<div>I need to remove the fan hub extension (part 128318).&nbsp; I=E2=80=99v=
e taken the=20
nuts off of the 6 bolts that pass through the pulley.&nbsp; It seems still=20=

attached solidly.&nbsp; Rusted in place perhaps?&nbsp; Or is there something=
=20
else to be done to get this piece off?</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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From: [email-masked]
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I used a TR6 fan adapter when I put a cut down TR6 fan onto a TR3 engine.
It was a real improvement over the metal four blade fan.

Greg G.
Osseo, MN

> So, I wanted to pull the fan hub extension because I wanted to fit an 8
> blade plastic fan backwards.
>
> Has anyone fitted one of these plastic fans, and if so, how did you mount
> it?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Cliff
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From: Geo Hahn <[email-masked]>
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I used the 8 blade fan backwards on my TR4.  I do not recall if I had to
enlarge the center hole.  I did have to use a spacer to move it forward
slightly (made from a piece of plastic cutting board).

Note, it's a TR6 yellow fan, just painted black to make it a bit stealthy.

IMO, 1/4" clearance is adequate if the usual radiator braces are in place,
motor mounts good, etc.

Geo

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Cliff <[email-masked]> wrote:

> blade plastic fan backwards.  However, the center hole in the fan is 1/8=
=E2=80=9D
> smaller than the diameter of the plate at the end of the fan extension.  =
I
> But now I think I'd rather not pull that dog bolt if I don't absolutely
> have
> to.
>
> Options:
> 1 - leave as is and put the original metal fan back on, at least, it=E2=
=80=99s a
> semblance of a fan.
> 2 - mount the plastic fan frontwise and give up the access to the end of
> the
> dog bolt.  Mounted frontwise the fan is only about 1/4" from the radiator=
.
> I'm guessing many on the list would choose Door Number 3.  But I'd really
>  *From:* davehogye <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 16, 2015 7:57 PM
> *To:* Cliff <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] TR4A fan hub extension - removal?
>
>  Hi Cliff,
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Cliff" <[email-masked]>
> *To: [email-masked]
> *Sent: *Monday, February 16, 2015 6:49:26 PM
> *Subject: *[TR] TR4A fan hub extension - removal?
>
>  I need to remove the fan hub extension (part 128318).  I=E2=80=99ve take=
n the
> attached solidly.  Rusted in place perhaps?  Or is there something else t=
o
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I used the 8 blade fan backwards on my TR4.=C2=A0 I d=
o not recall if I had to enlarge the center hole.=C2=A0 I did have to use a=
 spacer to move it forward slightly (made from a piece of plastic cutting b=
oard).</div><div><br></div><div>Note, it&#39;s a TR6 yellow fan, just paint=
ed black to make it a bit stealthy.</div><div><br></div><div>IMO, 1/4&quot;=
 clearance is adequate if the usual radiator braces are in place, motor mou=
nts good, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>Geo</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Clif=
f <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;;font-size:12=
pt"><font face=3D"Times New Roman">So, I wanted to pull the fan hub extensi=
on because I=20
wanted to fit an 8 <br>blade plastic fan backwards.=C2=A0 However, the cent=
er=20
hole in the fan is 1/8=E2=80=9D <br>smaller than the diameter of the plate =
at the end of=20
the fan extension.=C2=A0 I <br>was thinking of turning the fan extension=20
down.<br><br>But now I think I&#39;d rather not pull that dog bolt if I don=
&#39;t=20
absolutely have <br>to.<br><br>Options:<br>1 - leave as is and put the orig=
inal=20
metal fan back on, at least, it=E2=80=99s a <br>semblance of a fan.<br>2 - =
mount the=20
plastic fan frontwise and give up the access to the end of the <br>dog=20
bolt.=C2=A0 Mounted frontwise the fan is only about 1/4&quot; from the radi=
ator.<br>3=20
- go modern and put an electric fan.<br><br>I&#39;m guessing many on the li=
st would=20
choose Door Number 3.=C2=A0 But I&#39;d really <br>rather have the plastic =
fan, if=20
practical, because, well, its paid for.<br><br>Has anyone fitted one of the=
se=20
plastic fans, and if so, how did you mount <br>it?<br><br>Thanks in=20
advance,<br><br>Cliff</font><br><br><br>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@c=
omcast.net" target=3D"_blank">davehogye</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 16, 2015 7:57 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:cliff_=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Cliff</a> </div>
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removal?</div></div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
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e">
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<div>Hi Cliff,</div>
<div>There is a hefty long bolt that connects it to the crank shaft.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Dave H.</div>
<div>Santa Cruz, CA</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
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t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>To:=20
</b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Triumphs@a=
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pt">
<div>I need to remove the fan hub extension (part 128318).=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99=
ve taken the=20
nuts off of the 6 bolts that pass through the pulley.=C2=A0 It seems still=
=20
attached solidly.=C2=A0 Rusted in place perhaps?=C2=A0 Or is there somethin=
g=20
else to be done to get this piece off?</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
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From: "D&BLambert" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:01:55 -0800

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Macy's Garage,
http://www.macysgarage.com/myweb6/Parts/triumph_accessories.htm , sells a
purpose-built fan for just such a problem.  Not inexpensive, but according
to one of our club members who installed one on a customer car, it worked
like a champ. End of cooling issues.  NFI on my part here.

Moss also sells a fan conversion kit for the TR3-3B that might work on a 4.
http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=66775.  Again,
NFI.

About 12 years ago I wanted to install yellow 8-blade fan on my TR3A, but
was also concerned about the closeness to the radiator: about a quarter inch
or less.  I didn't want to install it backwards for efficiency reasons.  My
solution then was to section a fan nose piece, shorten it about 5/8" then
braze it back together.  I mounted the yellow fan to that, giving me the
fan-to-radiator clearance I was comfortable with. It's still on my 3,
working well after 60 thousand miles or so.  The Moss kit is similar in
concept.  I also painted the yellow plastic fan black, but after some miles
the paint started chipping off, so I just put in a new yellow fan and called
it good.

I've also heard of folks using a TR3 fan nosepiece on a 4 because it's
shorter than the 4 nosepiece, thus giving the required clearance.  You can
then mount the yellow fan the proper direction.  That might be the
easiest/cheapest way to solve your issue.

Dennis

 

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From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Cliff
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:46 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] TR4A - plastic fan - advice?

So, I wanted to pull the fan hub extension because I wanted to fit an 8 
blade plastic fan backwards.  However, the center hole in the fan is 1/8" 
smaller than the diameter of the plate at the end of the fan extension.  I 
was thinking of turning the fan extension down.

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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href=3D"http://www.macysgarage.com/myweb6/Parts/triumph_accessories.htm">=
http://www.macysgarage.com/myweb6/Parts/triumph_accessories.htm</a>
, sells a purpose-built fan for just such a problem.&nbsp; Not =
inexpensive, but
according to one of our club members who installed one on a customer =
car, it worked
like a champ. End of cooling issues. &nbsp;NFI on my part =
here.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Moss also sells a fan conversion =
kit for the
TR3-3B that might work on a 4.&nbsp; <a
href=3D"http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=3D6=
6775">http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=3D667=
75</a>.&nbsp;
Again, NFI.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>About 12 years ago I wanted to =
install
yellow 8-blade fan on my TR3A, but was also concerned about the =
closeness to the
radiator: about a quarter inch or less.&nbsp; I didn&#8217;t want to =
install it
backwards for efficiency reasons.&nbsp; My solution then was to section =
a fan
nose piece, shorten it about 5/8&#8221; then braze it back =
together.&nbsp; I
mounted the yellow fan to that, giving me the fan-to-radiator clearance =
I was
comfortable with. It&#8217;s still on my 3, working well after 60 =
thousand
miles or so.&nbsp; The Moss kit is similar in concept.&nbsp; I also =
painted the
yellow plastic fan black, but after some miles the paint started =
chipping off,
so I just put in a new yellow fan and called it =
good.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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using a TR3
fan nosepiece on a 4 because it&#8217;s shorter than the 4 nosepiece, =
thus
giving the required clearance.&nbsp; You can then mount the yellow fan =
the
proper direction.&nbsp; That might be the easiest/cheapest way to solve =
your
issue.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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[mailto:[email-masked]] <b><span =
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Behalf Of </span></b>Cliff<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, February =
18, 2015
7:46 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
[email-masked]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [TR] TR4A - =
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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>So, I wanted =
to pull the
fan hub extension because I wanted to fit an 8 <br>
blade plastic fan backwards.&nbsp; However, the center hole in the fan =
is
1/8&#8221; <br>
smaller than the diameter of the plate at the end of the fan =
extension.&nbsp; I
<br>
was thinking of turning the fan extension down.<br>
<br>
<br>
Has anyone fitted one of these plastic fans, and if so, how did you =
mount <br>
it?<br>
<br>
<br>
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Hi George,

I can see how, with the spacer, you can get the clearance to the =
radiator.  I want to still be able to use the dog bolt=E2=80=99s head to =
turn the crank, which I don=E2=80=99t see is possible now, even if I =
manage to mount the yellow 8 blade fan backwards.

Someone referred to Macy=E2=80=99s garage (thanks!), who offer a direct =
bolt-on mechanical fan for the TR2-4A engine.  It does what I want =
(clears the radiator, improves air flow, and leaves the dog bolt head =
free) for the same price as an electric fan kit, so I=E2=80=99ve ordered =
one and expect to be quite pleased.

Thanks again for all the advice,

Cliff

From: Geo Hahn=20
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:33 AM
To: Cliff=20
Cc: Triumphs=20
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - plastic fan - advice?

I used the 8 blade fan backwards on my TR4.  I do not recall if I had to =
enlarge the center hole.  I did have to use a spacer to move it forward =
slightly (made from a piece of plastic cutting board).

Note, it's a TR6 yellow fan, just painted black to make it a bit =
stealthy.

IMO, 1/4" clearance is adequate if the usual radiator braces are in =
place, motor mounts good, etc.

Geo

  So, I wanted to pull the fan hub extension because I wanted to fit an =
8=20
  blade plastic fan backwards.  However, the center hole in the fan is =
1/8=E2=80=9D=20
  smaller than the diameter of the plate at the end of the fan =
extension.  I=20
  was thinking of turning the fan extension down.

  But now I think I'd rather not pull that dog bolt if I don't =
absolutely have=20
  to.

  Options:
  1 - leave as is and put the original metal fan back on, at least, =
it=E2=80=99s a=20
  semblance of a fan.
  2 - mount the plastic fan frontwise and give up the access to the end =
of the=20
  dog bolt.  Mounted frontwise the fan is only about 1/4" from the =
radiator.
  3 - go modern and put an electric fan.

  I'm guessing many on the list would choose Door Number 3.  But I'd =
really=20
  rather have the plastic fan, if practical, because, well, its paid =
for.

  Thanks in advance,

  Cliff

  From: davehogye=20

  Hi Cliff,

  Dave H.
  Santa Cruz, CA

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<DIV>Hi George,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I can see how, with the spacer, you can get the clearance to the=20
radiator.&nbsp; I want to still be able to use the dog bolt=E2=80=99s =
head to turn the=20
crank, which I don=E2=80=99t see is possible now, even if I manage to =
mount the yellow 8=20
blade fan backwards.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Someone referred to Macy=E2=80=99s garage (thanks!), who offer a =
direct bolt-on=20
mechanical fan for the TR2-4A engine.&nbsp; It does what I want (clears =
the=20
radiator, improves air flow, and leaves the dog bolt head free) for the =
same=20
price as an electric fan kit, so I=E2=80=99ve ordered one and expect to =
be quite=20
pleased.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks again for all the advice,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Cliff</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Geo Hahn</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:33 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Cliff</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Triumphs</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [TR] TR4A - plastic fan - =
advice?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>
<DIV>I used the 8 blade fan backwards on my TR4.&nbsp; I do not recall =
if I had=20
to enlarge the center hole.&nbsp; I did have to use a spacer to move it =
forward=20
slightly (made from a piece of plastic cutting board).</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Note, it's a TR6 yellow fan, just painted black to make it a bit=20
stealthy.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>IMO, 1/4" clearance is adequate if the usual radiator braces are in =
place,=20
motor mounts good, etc.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Geo</DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_extra>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Cliff <SPAN=20
dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
target=3D_blank>[email-masked]</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc =
1px solid">
  <DIV dir=3Dltr>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr>
  <DIV style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: =
rgb(0,0,0)'><FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman">So, I wanted to pull the fan hub extension =
because I=20
  wanted to fit an 8 <BR>blade plastic fan backwards.&nbsp; However, the =
center=20
  hole in the fan is 1/8=E2=80=9D <BR>smaller than the diameter of the =
plate at the end=20
  of the fan extension.&nbsp; I <BR>was thinking of turning the fan =
extension=20
  down.<BR><BR>But now I think I'd rather not pull that dog bolt if I =
don't=20
  absolutely have <BR>to.<BR><BR>Options:<BR>1 - leave as is and put the =

  original metal fan back on, at least, it=E2=80=99s a <BR>semblance of =
a fan.<BR>2 -=20
  mount the plastic fan frontwise and give up the access to the end of =
the=20
  <BR>dog bolt.&nbsp; Mounted frontwise the fan is only about 1/4" from =
the=20
  radiator.<BR>3 - go modern and put an electric fan.<BR><BR>I'm =
guessing many=20
  on the list would choose Door Number 3.&nbsp; But I'd really =
<BR>rather have=20
  the plastic fan, if practical, because, well, its paid for.<BR><BR>Has =
anyone=20
  fitted one of these plastic fans, and if so, how did you mount=20
  <BR>it?<BR><BR>Thanks in advance,<BR><BR>Cliff</FONT><BR><BR><BR>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
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  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: rgb(245,245,245)">
  <DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank>davehogye</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 16, 2015 7:57 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank>Cliff</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [TR] TR4A fan hub extension -=20
  removal?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">
  <DIV>Hi Cliff,</DIV>
  <DIV>There is a hefty long bolt that connects it to the crank =
shaft.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Dave H.</DIV>
  <DIV>Santa Cruz, CA</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <HR>

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FONT-STYLE: normal"><B>From:=20
  </B>"Cliff" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
  target=3D_blank>[email-masked]</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: </B><A=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
  target=3D_blank>[email-masked]</A><BR><B>Sent: </B>Monday, =
February 16,=20
  2015 6:49:26 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>[TR] TR4A fan hub extension - =
removal?<BR>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr>
  <DIV style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; COLOR: =
rgb(0,0,0)'>
  <DIV>I need to remove the fan hub extension (part 128318).&nbsp; =
I=E2=80=99ve taken=20
  the nuts off of the 6 bolts that pass through the pulley.&nbsp; It =
seems still=20
  attached solidly.&nbsp; Rusted in place perhaps?&nbsp; Or is there =
something=20
  else to be done to get this piece off?</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Cliff</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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