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Subject: [Tigers] Front Bump Stop Clearance?
From: Terry Packer via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
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I'd like to investigate whether intermittent contact with the rubber snubbers is adding firmness to the feel of my MkI's front suspension. Unfortunately guessing at the condition of the road springs by comparing tire clearances, ride heights, etc, is usually inconclusive because of car to car variables like wheel and tire sizes.

So before disassembling anything I'd like to first do a quick "look see". To that end, can anyone share the intended clearance between the top of the stock rubber snubbers and their corresponding stop-pads on the cross-member for a (mostly) stock Tiger with known good springs? A related question is how much front wheel travel the Tiger design was intended to provide. I haven't see either of these dimensions in the Workshop Manual and either one might help inform whether a more invasive investigation is justified.

Thanks Much
Terry
  
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 firmness to the feel of my MkI's front suspension. Unfortunately guessing at the condition of the road springs by comparing tire clearances, ride heights, etc, is usually 
inconclusive because of car to car variables like wheel and tire sizes.<br>
<br>So before disassembling anything I'd like to first do a quick "look see". To that end, can 
anyone share the intended clearance between the top of the stock rubber snubbers and their corresponding stop-pads on the cross-member for a (mostly) stock Tiger with known good springs? A related question is how much front wheel travel the Tiger design was intended to provide. I haven't see either of these dimensions in the Workshop Manual and either one might help inform whether a more invasive 
investigation is justified.<br>
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Thanks Much<br>
Terry</div><br clear="none"></div><div id="ydp2d0d7cefyahoo_quoted_6504698345" class="ydp2d0d7cefyahoo_quoted"><div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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From: Gary Winblad <winbladgary@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2026 19:33:21 -0700
To: Terry Packer <packertl3@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Front Bump Stop Clearance?
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Terry,
I bet Tom Hall could give you those answers.
My stock Tiger is lowered with ground down rubber spring pads and stock
sagged springs, don't think it ever bottoms.  Might be due to the shock
setting.
Gary Winblad


On Wed, Aug 5, 2026 at 5:19=E2=80=AFPM Terry Packer via Tigers <
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

> I'd like to investigate whether intermittent contact with the rubber
> snubbers is adding firmness to the feel of my MkI's front suspension.
> Unfortunately guessing at the condition of the road springs by comparing
> tire clearances, ride heights, etc, is usually inconclusive because of ca=
r
> to car variables like wheel and tire sizes.
>
> So before disassembling anything I'd like to first do a quick "look see".
> To that end, can anyone share the intended clearance between the top of t=
he
> stock rubber snubbers and their corresponding stop-pads on the cross-memb=
er
> for a (mostly) stock Tiger with known good springs? A related question is
> how much front wheel travel the Tiger design was intended to provide. I
> haven't see either of these dimensions in the Workshop Manual and either
> one might help inform whether a more invasive investigation is justified.
>
> Thanks Much
> Terry
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Terry,</div><div>I bet Tom Hall could give you those =
answers.</div><div>My stock Tiger is lowered with ground down rubber spring=
 pads and stock sagged springs, don&#39;t think it ever bottoms.=C2=A0 Migh=
t be due to the shock setting.</div><div>Gary Winblad</div><div><br></div><=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 5, 2026 at 5:19=E2=80=AFPM Terry Packer vi=
a Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<div><div style=3D"font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-si=
ze:16px" dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;d like to investigate whether i=
ntermittent contact with the rubber snubbers is adding
 firmness to the feel of my MkI&#39;s front suspension. Unfortunately guess=
ing at the condition of the road springs by comparing tire clearances, ride=
 heights, etc, is usually=20
inconclusive because of car to car variables like wheel and tire sizes.<br>
<br>So before disassembling anything I&#39;d like to first do a quick &quot=
;look see&quot;. To that end, can=20
anyone share the intended clearance between the top of the stock rubber snu=
bbers and their corresponding stop-pads on the cross-member for a (mostly) =
stock Tiger with known good springs? A related question is how much front w=
heel travel the Tiger design was intended to provide. I haven&#39;t see eit=
her of these dimensions in the Workshop Manual and either one might help in=
form whether a more invasive=20
investigation is justified.<br>
<br>
Thanks Much<br>
Terry</div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"m_-1674444434110014623ydp2d0=
d7cefyahoo_quoted_6504698345"><div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neu=
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Front Bump Stop Clearance?
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I=E2=80=99ll add a twist on this.  I put the disc brake conversion on my =
Alpine.  The caliper is positioned such that if the rear compresses =
enough, the lip of the frame above the rear end will hit the parking =
brake spring part of the caliper before any stop is hit.  I don=E2=80=99t =
know that I have ever hit such a bump that has caused anywhere near that =
kind of compression.  But it still makes me nervous.  I=E2=80=99ve been =
debating adding a bigger stop inside the shock itself (the are Konis, =
which I think do have such stops), or rotating the caliper to a =
different position.  The problem with the different position is that the =
parking brake rod and cable will no longer work.

Just a thought to add to the collective knowledge.



> On Aug 5, 2026, at 7:33=E2=80=AFPM, Gary Winblad =
<winbladgary@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Terry,
> I bet Tom Hall could give you those answers.
> My stock Tiger is lowered with ground down rubber spring pads and =
stock sagged springs, don't think it ever bottoms.  Might be due to the =
shock setting.
> Gary Winblad
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> On Wed, Aug 5, 2026 at 5:19=E2=80=AFPM Terry Packer via Tigers =
>> I'd like to investigate whether intermittent contact with the rubber =
snubbers is adding firmness to the feel of my MkI's front suspension. =
Unfortunately guessing at the condition of the road springs by comparing =
tire clearances, ride heights, etc, is usually inconclusive because of =
car to car variables like wheel and tire sizes.
>>=20
>> So before disassembling anything I'd like to first do a quick "look =
see". To that end, can anyone share the intended clearance between the =
top of the stock rubber snubbers and their corresponding stop-pads on =
the cross-member for a (mostly) stock Tiger with known good springs? A =
related question is how much front wheel travel the Tiger design was =
intended to provide. I haven't see either of these dimensions in the =
Workshop Manual and either one might help inform whether a more invasive =
investigation is justified.
>>=20
>> Thanks Much
>> Terry
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I=E2=80=99ll =
add a twist on this. &nbsp;I put the disc brake conversion on my Alpine. =
&nbsp;The caliper is positioned such that if the rear compresses enough, =
the lip of the frame above the rear end will hit the parking brake =
spring part of the caliper before any stop is hit. &nbsp;I don=E2=80=99t =
know that I have ever hit such a bump that has caused anywhere near that =
kind of compression. &nbsp;But it still makes me nervous. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99=
ve been debating adding a bigger stop inside the shock itself (the are =
Konis, which I think do have such stops), or rotating the caliper to a =
different position. &nbsp;The problem with the different position is =
that the parking brake rod and cable will no longer =
work.<div><br></div><div>Just a thought to add to the collective =
knowledge.<br><div><br></div><div><br =
id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Aug 5, 2026, at 7:33=E2=80=AFPM, Gary Winblad =
&lt;winbladgary@gmail.com&gt; wrote:</div><br =
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><div>Terry,</div><div>I bet Tom Hall could give you those =
answers.</div><div>My stock Tiger is lowered with ground down rubber =
spring pads and stock sagged springs, don't think it ever bottoms.&nbsp; =
Might be due to the shock setting.</div><div>Gary =
Winblad</div><div><br></div></div><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
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class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 5, 2026 at 5:19=E2=80=AFPM Terry Packer =
via Tigers &lt;<a =
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dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: &quot;times new roman&quot;, &quot;new =
york&quot;, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"><div dir=3D"ltr">I'd like to =
investigate whether intermittent contact with the rubber snubbers is =
adding firmness to the feel of my MkI's front suspension. Unfortunately =
guessing at the condition of the road springs by comparing tire =
clearances, ride heights, etc, is usually inconclusive because of car to =
car variables like wheel and tire sizes.<br><br>So before disassembling =
anything I'd like to first do a quick "look see". To that end, can =
anyone share the intended clearance between the top of the stock rubber =
snubbers and their corresponding stop-pads on the cross-member for a =
(mostly) stock Tiger with known good springs? A related question is how =
much front wheel travel the Tiger design was intended to provide. I =
haven't see either of these dimensions in the Workshop Manual and either =
one might help inform whether a more invasive investigation is =
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