Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT

From: Terry Packer via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 15:08:57 +0000 (UTC)

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    On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 02:50:20 PM PDT, Theo Smit <[email-masked]=
> wrote: =20
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 The last mk1A was B382002706 and it was built right at the end of =C2=A0De=
cember 1966. They had already started Mk2 production at that point (in Sept=
ember? I forget, offhand) and those last 12 Mk1A were probably bodies that =
had gotten put to the side when they needed to get the Mk2 production going=
. Then someone realized that those bodies represented sunk cost and finishi=
ng them would put cash on the table.=C2=A0Anyway, the =E2=80=982400 range o=
f Mk1A production was early enough in the year that some of them could have=
 been shipped to the US and sold before the end of 1966.=C2=A0Cheers,Theo

On Aug 16, 2024, at 2:45 PM, Stu <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFAnother data point:=C2=A0 According to TBON, my Tiger was assemble=
d in the late summer of '66.=C2=A0 It was first sold in NY in Feb of '67, s=
o it has always been registered as a '67.
Stu
On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 4:06=E2=80=AFPM Will Seay via Tigers <tigers@autox.=
team.net> wrote:

My MK1A is registered in VA as 1966/67.=C2=A0 This characterization probabl=
y came from the dealer.=C2=A0 It was common back then to give a foreign car=
 the benefit of the doubt when registering, assuming that the same car mode=
l would be produced the next year.=C2=A0 In my case this was clearly an err=
or because the MKII, introduced in '67, was not the same car as was produce=
d in '66.
Will - 382001570=20
[email-masked]

On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 1:56=E2=80=AFPM D or G at sbc via Tigers <tigers@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:

 Yes, the Calif. DMV did, or still does, go by the registration date. Have =
a 1942 Jeep that stated it was 1950.
David Franchi

    On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 08:48:43 AM PDT, Ron Fraser <rfraser@blue=
frog.com> wrote: =20
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1st =E2=80=93 no idea on the brass tag =E2=80=93 one would think it should =
have something stamped on it.

 =C2=A0

Drmayf

Yes the vin tag is near the end of the MK 1A Tigers build.

 =C2=A0

I have been told that back in the day Tigers had registration dates accordi=
ng to year they were 1st register in the states not by the year the Tiger w=
as built.

 =C2=A0

Ron Fraser

 =C2=A0

From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2024 9:53 AM
To: 'Jay Laifman' <[email-masked]>; 'Tiger's Den' <[email-masked]=
.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT

 =C2=A0

I don=E2=80=99t know about the tag on the fuel line, but the date the car i=
s advertised as a 1966 does not go with the vin number.=C2=A0 The B382 is=
=C2=A0 for a Mk 1A is it not? Rivets look OEM also.=C2=A0 My 1966 (register=
ed in Ventura CA in 1966 as it was sold new and the vin on it is B9471136 a=
nd I am the second owner having purchased it used in Santa Maria, Ca in Jan=
 1967 second hand (yeah, have owned my car since then never changed hands a=
nd has always been registered).=C2=A0 This car also has the long shifter as=
 well which I think does go with vin number, But somebody smarter than me c=
ould check that out. .=20

 =C2=A0

Interesting that a small brass tag can generate some curiosity, eh?=20

 =C2=A0

Drmayf aka Lawrence

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Jay Laifma=
n
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2024 6:22 AM
To: Tiger's Den <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT

 =C2=A0

Watching the Tiger on BAT?=C2=A0 The owner says it had a brass tag on the f=
uel line from new and he and his dad have never known what it was.=C2=A0 An=
yone know?

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-50-2/

 =C2=A0
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                        On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 02:50:20 PM PDT, Theo=
 Smit &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The last mk1A was B382002706 and it was built r=
ight at the end of &nbsp;December 1966. They had already started Mk2 produc=
tion at that point (in September? I forget, offhand) and those last 12 Mk1A=
 were probably bodies that had gotten put to the side when they needed to g=
et the Mk2 production going. Then someone realized that those bodies repres=
ented sunk cost and finishing them would put cash on the table.&nbsp;</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Anyway, the =E2=80=982400 range of Mk1A production was ear=
ly enough in the year that some of them could have been shipped to the US a=
nd sold before the end of 1966.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Theo</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On =
Aug 16, 2024, at 2:45 PM, Stu &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></b=
lockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div di=
r=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386=
gmail_default">Another data point:&nbsp; According to TBON, my Tiger was as=
sembled in the late summer of '66.&nbsp; It was first sold in NY in Feb of =
'67, so it has always been registered as a '67.</div><div style=3D"font-siz=
e:small;" class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_default"><br></div><div st=
yle=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_default">St=
u</div></div><br><div class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_quote"><div di=
r=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 16, 2024=
 at 4:06=E2=80=AFPM Will Seay via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox=
.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv983789=
6386gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"=
ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_default">My MK1A is registered in VA as 1966/=
67.&nbsp; This characterization probably came from the dealer.&nbsp; It was=
 common back then to give a foreign car the benefit of the doubt when regis=
tering, assuming that the same car model would be produced the next year.&n=
bsp; In my case this was clearly an error because the MKII, introduced in '=
67, was not the same car as was produced in '66.</div><div style=3D"font-si=
ze:small;" class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_default"><br></div><div><=
div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_signature"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Will - 382001570 <br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a></div></div></div>=
<br></div><br><div class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 =
at 1:56=E2=80=AFPM D or G at sbc via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@au=
tox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv983=
7896386gmail_quote"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-s=
erif;font-size:18px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, the Calif. DMV did, or =
still does, go by the registration date. Have a 1942 Jeep that stated it wa=
s 1950.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>David Franchi</div><br></div><div><=
br></div>
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71637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yahoo_quoted_4450991725">
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                        On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 08:48:43 AM PDT, Ron =
Fraser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                    </div>
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                <div><div id=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-2410958755070881=
963m_8371637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784"><div><div><p><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;">1<sup>st</sup> =E2=80=93 no ide=
a on the brass tag =E2=80=93 one would think it should have something stamp=
ed on it.</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif=
;"> &nbsp;</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-seri=
f;">Drmayf</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-seri=
f;">Yes the vin tag is near the end of the MK 1A Tigers build.</span></p><p=
><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</span></p><=
p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I have been told t=
hat back in the day Tigers had registration dates according to year they we=
re 1<sup>st</sup> register in the states not by the year the Tiger was buil=
t.</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> &nb=
sp;</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Ron=
 Fraser</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;"=
> &nbsp;</span></p><div id=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-241095875507088196=
3m_8371637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784yqt53683"><div><div style=3D"=
border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rg=
b(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:3pt 0in 0in;"><p><b><span =
style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers-bo=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Larry Mayfield<br clear=3D=
"none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 16, 2024 9:53 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To=
:</b> 'Jay Laifman' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nof=
ollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 'Tiger's Den' &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers=
] Tag on Tiger on BAT</span></p></div></div><p> &nbsp;</p><p><span style=3D=
"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);">I don=E2=80=
=99t know about the tag on the fuel line, but the date the car is advertise=
d as a 1966 does not go with the vin number.&nbsp; The B382 is&nbsp; for a =
Mk 1A is it not? Rivets look OEM also.&nbsp; My 1966 (registered in Ventura=
 CA in 1966 as it was sold new and the vin on it is B9471136 and I am the s=
econd owner having purchased it used in Santa Maria, Ca in Jan 1967 second =
hand (yeah, have owned my car since then never changed hands and has always=
 been registered).&nbsp; This car also has the long shifter as well which I=
 think does go with vin number, But somebody smarter than me could check th=
at out. . </span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-seri=
f;color:rgb(31,73,125);"> &nbsp;</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt=
;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);">Interesting that a small bra=
ss tag can generate some curiosity, eh? </span></p><p><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);"> &nbsp;</span></p><p=
><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);=
">Drmayf aka Lawrence</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-famil=
y:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);"> &nbsp;</span></p><p><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);"></span></p><div>&=
lt;image003.png&gt;</div><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-=
serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);"> &nbsp;</span></p><p><b><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:1=
1pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> Tigers [<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:tige=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">mailto:tigers=
[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jay Laifman<br clear=3D"no=
ne"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 16, 2024 6:22 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</=
b> Tiger's Den &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT</span></p><p> &nbsp;=
</p></div><div><div id=3D"ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-2410958755070881963m_8=
371637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784yqt19031"><p>Watching the Tiger o=
n BAT?&nbsp; The owner says it had a brass tag on the fuel line from new an=
d he and his dad have never known what it was.&nbsp; Anyone know?</p><div><=
p> &nbsp;</p></div><div><p></p><div>&lt;image004.png&gt;</div></div><div><p=
> &nbsp;</p></div><div><p><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://bringatrailer.c=
om/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-50-2/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">htt=
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From: "Cheers, Mark the Great via Tigers" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 15:55:16 +0000 (UTC)

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RE dating. I've mentioned this before. A local bank was financing MG's and =
Heley's for a local dealer.=C2=A0 At the end of the Sept. ( or thereabouts =
) the dealer would change all the in stock inventory to the next model year=
. The bank was notified and it would also change the model year for the inv=
entory they had financed. Thus, with a stroke of a pen, the new models had =
arrived. I'm guessing something similar happened with the Tigers.

In a message dated 2/20/2025 10:17:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, tigers@auto=
x.team.net writes:=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 02:50:20 PM PDT, Theo Smit =
<[email-masked]> wrote:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0The last mk1A was B382002706 and it=
 was built right at the end of =C2=A0December 1966. They had already starte=
d Mk2 production at that point (in September? I forget, offhand) and those =
last 12 Mk1A were probably bodies that had gotten put to the side when they=
 needed to get the Mk2 production going. Then someone realized that those b=
odies represented sunk cost and finishing them would put cash on the table.=
=C2=A0Anyway, the =E2=80=982400 range of Mk1A production was early enough i=
n the year that some of them could have been shipped to the US and sold bef=
ore the end of 1966.=C2=A0Cheers,Theo

Another data point:=C2=A0 According to TBON, my Tiger was assembled in the =
late summer of '66.=C2=A0 It was first sold in NY in Feb of '67, so it has =
always been registered as a '67.=C2=A0Stu
On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 4:06=E2=80=AFPM Will Seay via Tigers <tigers@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
My MK1A is registered in VA as 1966/67.=C2=A0 This characterization probabl=
y came from the dealer.=C2=A0 It was common back then to give a foreign car=
 the benefit of the doubt when registering, assuming that the same car mode=
l would be produced the next year.=C2=A0 In my case this was clearly an err=
or because the MKII, introduced in '67, was not the same car as was produce=
d in '66.=C2=A0Will - 382001570=20
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=C2=A0Yes, the Calif. DMV did, or still does, go by the registration date. =
Have a 1942 Jeep that stated it was 1950.=C2=A0David Franchi=C2=A0On Friday=
, August 16, 2024 at 08:48:43 AM PDT, Ron Fraser <[email-masked]> wro=
te:=C2=A0=C2=A0
1st =E2=80=93 no idea on the brass tag =E2=80=93 one would think it should =
have something stamped on it.

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<div class=3D"userEdit" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, h=
elvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);=
 font-style: normal; font-weight: bold;">RE dating. I've mentioned this bef=
ore. A local bank was financing MG's and Heley's for a local dealer.&nbsp; =
At the end of the Sept. ( or thereabouts ) the dealer would change all the =
in stock inventory to the next model year. The bank was notified and it wou=
ld also change the model year for the inventory they had financed. Thus, wi=
th a stroke of a pen, the new models had arrived. </span></div>
<div class=3D"userEdit" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, h=
elvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);=
 font-style: normal; font-weight: bold;">I'm guessing something similar hap=
pened with the Tigers.<br></span></div>
<br>In a message dated 2/20/2025 10:17:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, tigers@=
autox.team.net writes:
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"quotedReply">
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: blue=
 2px solid;">
<div id=3D"yiv9538596874">
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y: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;">
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<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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8596874ydpc4d03eabyahoo_quoted">
<div style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; =
font-size: 13px; color: #26282a;">
<div>On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 02:50:20 PM PDT, Theo Smit &lt;tsmit@sha=
w.ca&gt; wrote:</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<div id=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">The last mk1A was B382002706 and it was built right at the=
 end of &nbsp;December 1966. They had already started Mk2 production at tha=
t point (in September? I forget, offhand) and those last 12 Mk1A were proba=
bly bodies that had gotten put to the side when they needed to get the Mk2 =
production going. Then someone realized that those bodies represented sunk =
cost and finishing them would put cash on the table.&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Anyway, the &lsquo;2400 range of Mk1A production was early=
 enough in the year that some of them could have been shipped to the US and=
 sold before the end of 1966.&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Theo</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote>On Aug 16, 2024, at 2:45 PM, Stu &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wr=
ote:<br><br></blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-size: small;">Another data point:&nbsp; According to TBON, my Tiger wa=
s assembled in the late summer of '66.&nbsp; It was first sold in NY in Feb=
 of '67, so it has always been registered as a '67.</div>
<div class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-size: small;">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-size: small;">Stu</div>
</div>
<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">=
On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 4:06=E2=80=AFPM Will Seay via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener n=
oreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,204,204); pa=
dding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-size: small;">My MK1A is registered in VA as 1966/67.&nbsp; This chara=
cterization probably came from the dealer.&nbsp; It was common back then to=
 give a foreign car the benefit of the doubt when registering, assuming tha=
t the same car model would be produced the next year.&nbsp; In my case this=
 was clearly an error because the MKII, introduced in '67, was not the same=
 car as was produced in '66.</div>
<div class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-size: small;">&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_signature" dir=3D"=
ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Will - 382001570 <br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">Tigers@embarqmai=
l.com</a></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">=
On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 1:56=E2=80=AFPM D or G at sbc via Tigers &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopen=
er noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,204,204); pa=
dding-left: 1ex;">
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<div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;">
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, the Calif. DMV did, or still does, go by the registra=
tion date. Have a 1942 Jeep that stated it was 1950.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
David Franchi</div>
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-2410958755070881963m_837=
1637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yahoo_quoted_4450991725">
<div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; c=
olor: rgb(38,40,42);">
<div>On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 08:48:43 AM PDT, Ron Fraser &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener=
 noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<div id=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-2410958755070881963m_837=
1637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784">
<div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;">1<sup>st</sup>=
 &ndash; no idea on the brass tag &ndash; one would think it should have so=
mething stamped on it.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</span>=
</p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;">Drmayf</span><=
/p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;">Yes the vin ta=
g is near the end of the MK 1A Tigers build.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</span>=
</p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;">I have been to=
ld that back in the day Tigers had registration dates according to year the=
y were 1<sup>st</sup> register in the states not by the year the Tiger was =
built.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</span>=
</p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;">Ron Fraser</sp=
an></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</span>=
</p>
<div id=3D"yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-2410958755070881963m_837=
1637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784yqt53683">
<div>
<div style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none non=
e; border-color: rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor; padding: 3pt 0=
in 0in;">
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;">From:<=
/span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;"> T=
igers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Larry Mayfield<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Se=
nt:</strong> Friday, August 16, 2024 9:53 AM<br clear=3D"none"><strong>To:<=
/strong> 'Jay Laifman' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt;; 'Tiger's Den' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<b=
r clear=3D"none"><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT=
</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: rgb(31,7=
3,125);">I don&rsquo;t know about the tag on the fuel line, but the date th=
e car is advertised as a 1966 does not go with the vin number.&nbsp; The B3=
82 is&nbsp; for a Mk 1A is it not? Rivets look OEM also.&nbsp; My 1966 (reg=
istered in Ventura CA in 1966 as it was sold new and the vin on it is B9471=
136 and I am the second owner having purchased it used in Santa Maria, Ca i=
n Jan 1967 second hand (yeah, have owned my car since then never changed ha=
nds and has always been registered).&nbsp; This car also has the long shift=
er as well which I think does go with vin number, But somebody smarter than=
 me could check that out. . </span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: rgb(31,7=
3,125);"> &nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: rgb(31,7=
3,125);">Interesting that a small brass tag can generate some curiosity, eh=
? </span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: rgb(31,7=
3,125);"> &nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: rgb(31,7=
3,125);">Drmayf aka Lawrence</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: rgb(31,7=
3,125);"> &nbsp;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<div>&lt;image003.png&gt;</div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: rgb(31,7=
3,125);"> &nbsp;</span></p>
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;">From:<=
/span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;"> T=
igers [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" r=
el=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">mailto:tigers-bounces@au=
tox.team.net</a>] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Jay Laifman<br clear=3D"non=
e"><strong>Sent:</strong> Friday, August 16, 2024 6:22 AM<br clear=3D"none"=
><strong>To:</strong> Tiger's Den &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">t=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Subject:</strong> [T=
igers] Tag on Tiger on BAT</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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1637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784yqt19031">
<p>Watching the Tiger on BAT?&nbsp; The owner says it had a brass tag on th=
e fuel line from new and he and his dad have never known what it was.&nbsp;=
 Anyone know?</p>
<div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<div>&lt;image004.png&gt;</div>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
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arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">https:=
//bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-50-2/</a></p>
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My MK1A was titled as 66/67.  I called it a '67 until I learned better.

Will - 382001570
[email-masked]

On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 10:55=E2=80=AFAM Cheers, Mark the Great via Tigers =
<
[email-masked]> wrote:

> RE dating. I've mentioned this before. A local bank was financing MG's an=
d
> Heley's for a local dealer.  At the end of the Sept. ( or thereabouts ) t=
he
> dealer would change all the in stock inventory to the next model year. Th=
e
> bank was notified and it would also change the model year for the invento=
ry
> they had financed. Thus, with a stroke of a pen, the new models had
> arrived.
> I'm guessing something similar happened with the Tigers.
>
> In a message dated 2/20/2025 10:17:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [email-masked] writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 02:50:20 PM PDT, Theo Smit <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> The last mk1A was B382002706 and it was built right at the end of
>  December 1966. They had already started Mk2 production at that point (in
> September? I forget, offhand) and those last 12 Mk1A were probably bodies
> that had gotten put to the side when they needed to get the Mk2 productio=
n
> going. Then someone realized that those bodies represented sunk cost and
> finishing them would put cash on the table.
> Anyway, the =E2=80=982400 range of Mk1A production was early enough in th=
e year
> that some of them could have been shipped to the US and sold before the e=
nd
> of 1966.
> Cheers,
> Theo
> Another data point:  According to TBON, my Tiger was assembled in the lat=
e
> summer of '66.  It was first sold in NY in Feb of '67, so it has always
> been registered as a '67.
>
> Stu
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 4:06=E2=80=AFPM Will Seay via Tigers <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> My MK1A is registered in VA as 1966/67.  This characterization probably
> came from the dealer.  It was common back then to give a foreign car the
> benefit of the doubt when registering, assuming that the same car model
> would be produced the next year.  In my case this was clearly an error
> because the MKII, introduced in '67, was not the same car as was produced
> in '66.
>
> Will - 382001570
> [email-masked]
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 1:56=E2=80=AFPM D or G at sbc via Tigers <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, the Calif. DMV did, or still does, go by the registration date. Have
> On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 08:48:43 AM PDT, Ron Fraser <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
>
> 1st =E2=80=93 no idea on the brass tag =E2=80=93 one would think it shoul=
d have something
> stamped on it.
> I have been told that back in the day Tigers had registration dates
> according to year they were 1st register in the states not by the year
> the Tiger was built.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *Larry
> Mayfield
> *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2024 9:53 AM
> *To:* 'Jay Laifman' <[email-masked]>; 'Tiger's Den' <
> [email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT
>
>
>
> I don=E2=80=99t know about the tag on the fuel line, but the date the car=
 is
> advertised as a 1966 does not go with the vin number.  The B382 is  for a
> Mk 1A is it not? Rivets look OEM also.  My 1966 (registered in Ventura CA
> in 1966 as it was sold new and the vin on it is B9471136 and I am the
> second owner having purchased it used in Santa Maria, Ca in Jan 1967 seco=
nd
> hand (yeah, have owned my car since then never changed hands and has alwa=
ys
> been registered).  This car also has the long shifter as well which I thi=
nk
> does go with vin number, But somebody smarter than me could check that ou=
t.
> .
>
>
>
> Interesting that a small brass tag can generate some curiosity, eh?
>
>
>
> Drmayf aka Lawrence
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]
> <[email-masked]>] *On Behalf Of *Jay Laifman
> *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2024 6:22 AM
> *To:* Tiger's Den <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT
>
>
>
> Watching the Tiger on BAT?  The owner says it had a brass tag on the fuel
> line from new and he and his dad have never known what it was.  Anyone kn=
ow?
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small=
">My MK1A was titled as 66/67.=C2=A0 I called it a &#39;67 until I learned =
better.</div><br clear=3D"all"></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_s=
ignature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Will - 382001=
570 <br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Tigers@e=
mbarqmail.com</a></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote =
gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 20=
, 2025 at 10:55=E2=80=AFAM Cheers,  Mark the Great via Tigers &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-=
size:16px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-weight:bo=
ld">RE dating. I&#39;ve mentioned this before. A local bank was financing M=
G&#39;s and Heley&#39;s for a local dealer.=C2=A0 At the end of the Sept. (=
 or thereabouts ) the dealer would change all the in stock inventory to the=
 next model year. The bank was notified and it would also change the model =
year for the inventory they had financed. Thus, with a stroke of a pen, the=
 new models had arrived. </span></div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-=
size:16px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-weight:bo=
ld">I&#39;m guessing something similar happened with the Tigers.<br></span>=
</div>
<br>In a message dated 2/20/2025 10:17:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, <a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a> writes:
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:2px solid=
 blue">
<div id=3D"m_2270345714703558539yiv9538596874">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;times new roman&quot;,&quot;new york&quot;,=
times,serif;font-size:16px">
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div id=3D"m_2270345714703558539yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyahoo_quoted_034071=
0124">
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
<div>On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 02:50:20 PM PDT, Theo Smit &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</d=
iv>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>
<div id=3D"m_2270345714703558539yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">The last mk1A was B382002706 and it was built right at the=
 end of =C2=A0December 1966. They had already started Mk2 production at tha=
t point (in September? I forget, offhand) and those last 12 Mk1A were proba=
bly bodies that had gotten put to the side when they needed to get the Mk2 =
production going. Then someone realized that those bodies represented sunk =
cost and finishing them would put cash on the table.=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Anyway, the =E2=80=982400 range of Mk1A production was ear=
ly enough in the year that some of them could have been shipped to the US a=
nd sold before the end of 1966.=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Theo</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote>On Aug 16, 2024, at 2:45 PM, Stu &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sabre2tg=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></=
blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:small">Another data point:=C2=A0 According to TBON,=
 my Tiger was assembled in the late summer of &#39;66.=C2=A0 It was first s=
old in NY in Feb of &#39;67, so it has always been registered as a &#39;67.=
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small">=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small">Stu</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 4:06=E2=80=AFPM Will Seay via Tige=
rs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow noopener no=
referrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:small">My MK1A is registered in VA as 1966/67.=C2=
=A0 This characterization probably came from the dealer.=C2=A0 It was commo=
n back then to give a foreign car the benefit of the doubt when registering=
, assuming that the same car model would be produced the next year.=C2=A0 I=
n my case this was clearly an error because the MKII, introduced in &#39;67=
, was not the same car as was produced in &#39;66.</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small">=C2=A0</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Will - 382001570 <br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">Tigers@embarqmai=
l.com</a></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 1:56=E2=80=AFPM D or G at sbc via =
Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow noopene=
r noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px">
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, the Calif. DMV did, or still does, go by the registra=
tion date. Have a 1942 Jeep that stated it was 1950.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>
David Franchi</div>
</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div id=3D"m_2270345714703558539yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-241=
0958755070881963m_8371637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yahoo_quoted_4450991725">
<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:r=
gb(38,40,42)">
<div>On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 08:48:43 AM PDT, Ron Fraser &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>
<div id=3D"m_2270345714703558539yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-241=
0958755070881963m_8371637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784">
<div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif">1<sup>st</sup> =E2=
=80=93 no idea on the brass tag =E2=80=93 one would think it should have so=
mething stamped on it.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif"> =C2=A0</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif">Drmayf</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif">Yes the vin tag is=
 near the end of the MK 1A Tigers build.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif"> =C2=A0</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif">I have been told t=
hat back in the day Tigers had registration dates according to year they we=
re 1<sup>st</sup> register in the states not by the year the Tiger was buil=
t.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif"> =C2=A0</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif">Ron Fraser</span><=
/p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif"> =C2=A0</span></p>
<div id=3D"m_2270345714703558539yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-241=
0958755070881963m_8371637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784yqt53683">
<div>
<div style=3D"border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;b=
order-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:3pt 0in 0in"=
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif">From:</spa=
n></strong><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif"> Tigers &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow noopener=
 noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <stron=
g>On Behalf Of </strong>Larry Mayfield<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Sent:</str=
ong> Friday, August 16, 2024 9:53 AM<br clear=3D"none"><strong>To:</strong>=
 &#39;Jay Laifman&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"=
nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t;; &#39;Tiger&#39;s Den&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
t</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Tigers] Tag on T=
iger on BAT</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125=
)">I don=E2=80=99t know about the tag on the fuel line, but the date the ca=
r is advertised as a 1966 does not go with the vin number.=C2=A0 The B382 i=
s=C2=A0 for a Mk 1A is it not? Rivets look OEM also.=C2=A0 My 1966 (registe=
red in Ventura CA in 1966 as it was sold new and the vin on it is B9471136 =
and I am the second owner having purchased it used in Santa Maria, Ca in Ja=
n 1967 second hand (yeah, have owned my car since then never changed hands =
and has always been registered).=C2=A0 This car also has the long shifter a=
s well which I think does go with vin number, But somebody smarter than me =
could check that out. . </span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125=
)"> =C2=A0</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125=
)">Interesting that a small brass tag can generate some curiosity, eh? </sp=
an></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125=
)"> =C2=A0</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125=
)">Drmayf aka Lawrence</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125=
)"> =C2=A0</span></p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<div>&lt;image003.png&gt;</div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125=
)"> =C2=A0</span></p>
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif">From:</spa=
n></strong><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif"> Tigers [<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow noopener no=
referrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">mailto:[email-masked]=
.net</a>] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Jay Laifman<br clear=3D"none"><stro=
ng>Sent:</strong> Friday, August 16, 2024 6:22 AM<br clear=3D"none"><strong=
>To:</strong> Tiger&#39;s Den &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">tiger=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Subject:</strong> [Tiger=
s] Tag on Tiger on BAT</span></p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<div id=3D"m_2270345714703558539yiv9538596874ydpc4d03eabyiv9837896386m_-241=
0958755070881963m_8371637418154406999ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784yqt19031">
<p>Watching the Tiger on BAT?=C2=A0 The owner says it had a brass tag on th=
e fuel line from new and he and his dad have never known what it was.=C2=A0=
 Anyone know?</p>
<div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<div>&lt;image004.png&gt;</div>
</div>
<div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
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