Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Brake Pads

From: Joel Martin via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2024 20:19:37 +0000 (UTC)

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After a 215 mile one way trip running around 60 mph and then a straight up,=
 switch backs, too many to count, run - brakes took a toll.=C2=A0 Right fro=
nt had some smoking at bottom of mountain.=C2=A0 Brakes heavily used going =
up as well as down.=C2=A0 First - second gear a major work out, not to ment=
ion the operator - not sure I ever down- shifted 2nd to 1st this many times=
 in any kind of run.

I was not really happy with the braking performance.=C2=A0 Any Hawk pad rec=
ommendations, tire rack sale,=C2=A0=C2=A0 HPS - High performance street, PC=
 - HP Ceramic or HPS 5.0 HP street, anyone who has used for awhile and were=
 happy or not happy, comments=C2=A0 would be appreciated.=C2=A0 Model and p=
art numbers would be appreciated as Tire Rack does not list Sunbeams.=C2=A0=
 Not big on pads with alot of dust or noise.

This trip was to a British Car show outside of Ashville, NC.=C2=A0 About 20=
0 car participating.=C2=A0 9 Sunbeams, 7 Tigers, 1 Alpine and 1 Algir.=C2=
=A0 Alpine won 1st with my Tiger coming in second.=C2=A0 Hot day and fun.=
=C2=A0 Next big Sunbeam gathering is the British Car Day outside of=C2=A0 C=
harleston, SC on October 19th.=C2=A0 If you are in the Southeast, you shoul=
d try and make it although you must be pre-registered, no day of show regis=
trations.
Thank you for the recommendations.

Joel Martin

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ly:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div dir=3D"ltr" data-=
setdir=3D"false">After a 215 mile one way trip running around 60 mph and th=
en a straight up, switch backs, too many to count, run - brakes took a toll=
.&nbsp; Right front had some smoking at bottom of mountain.&nbsp; Brakes he=
avily used going up as well as down.&nbsp; First - second gear a major work=
 out, not to mention the operator - not sure I ever down- shifted 2nd to 1s=
t this many times in any kind of run.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I was not reall=
y happy with the braking performance.&nbsp; Any Hawk pad recommendations, t=
ire rack sale,&nbsp;&nbsp; HPS - High performance street, PC - HP Ceramic o=
r HPS 5.0 HP street, anyone who has used for awhile and were happy or not h=
appy, comments&nbsp; would be appreciated.&nbsp; Model and part numbers wou=
ld be appreciated as Tire Rack does not list Sunbeams.&nbsp; Not big on pad=
s with alot of dust or noise.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fals=
e"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">This trip was to a Brit=
ish Car show outside of Ashville, NC.&nbsp; About 200 car participating.&nb=
sp; 9 Sunbeams, 7 Tigers, 1 Alpine and 1 Algir.&nbsp; Alpine won 1st with m=
y Tiger coming in second.&nbsp; Hot day and fun.&nbsp; Next big Sunbeam gat=
hering is the British Car Day outside of&nbsp; Charleston, SC on October 19=
th.&nbsp; If you are in the Southeast, you should try and make it although =
you must be pre-registered, no day of show registrations.</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"=
>Thank you for the recommendations.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Joel Martin<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" dat=
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2024 16:43:55 -0400

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Joel just curious whether the brake booster was hooked up.

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> After a 215 mile one way trip running around 60 mph and then a straight up=
, switch backs, too many to count, run - brakes took a toll.  Right front ha=
d some smoking at bottom of mountain.  Brakes heavily used going up as well a=
s down.  First - second gear a major work out, not to mention the operator -=
 not sure I ever down- shifted 2nd to 1st this many times in any kind of run=
.
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> I was not really happy with the braking performance.  Any Hawk pad recomme=
ndations, tire rack sale,   HPS - High performance street, PC - HP Ceramic o=
r HPS 5.0 HP street, anyone who has used for awhile and were happy or not ha=
ppy, comments  would be appreciated.  Model and part numbers would be apprec=
iated as Tire Rack does not list Sunbeams.  Not big on pads with alot of dus=
t or noise.
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> This trip was to a British Car show outside of Ashville, NC.  About 200 ca=
r participating.  9 Sunbeams, 7 Tigers, 1 Alpine and 1 Algir.  Alpine won 1s=
t with my Tiger coming in second.  Hot day and fun.  Next big Sunbeam gather=
ing is the British Car Day outside of  Charleston, SC on October 19th.  If y=
ou are in the Southeast, you should try and make it although you must be pre=
-registered, no day of show registrations.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Joel just curious whether the brake booster=
 was hooked up.<div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Sent from my iPhone using Apple dictation&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 23, 2024, at 4:31=E2=80=AFPM, Joel Martin=
 via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"yahoo-style=
-wrap" style=3D"font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">After a 215 mile one way trip runni=
ng around 60 mph and then a straight up, switch backs, too many to count, ru=
n - brakes took a toll.&nbsp; Right front had some smoking at bottom of moun=
tain.&nbsp; Brakes heavily used going up as well as down.&nbsp; First - seco=
nd gear a major work out, not to mention the operator - not sure I ever down=
- shifted 2nd to 1st this many times in any kind of run.<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"=
>I was not really happy with the braking performance.&nbsp; Any Hawk pad rec=
ommendations, tire rack sale,&nbsp;&nbsp; HPS - High performance street, PC -=
 HP Ceramic or HPS 5.0 HP street, anyone who has used for awhile and were ha=
ppy or not happy, comments&nbsp; would be appreciated.&nbsp; Model and part n=
umbers would be appreciated as Tire Rack does not list Sunbeams.&nbsp; Not b=
ig on pads with alot of dust or noise.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">This trip was to=
 a British Car show outside of Ashville, NC.&nbsp; About 200 car participati=
ng.&nbsp; 9 Sunbeams, 7 Tigers, 1 Alpine and 1 Algir.&nbsp; Alpine won 1st w=
ith my Tiger coming in second.&nbsp; Hot day and fun.&nbsp; Next big Sunbeam=
 gathering is the British Car Day outside of&nbsp; Charleston, SC on October=
 19th.&nbsp; If you are in the Southeast, you should try and make it althoug=
h you must be pre-registered, no day of show registrations.</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"=
>Thank you for the recommendations.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D=
"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Joel Martin<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-set=
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From: "Ron Fraser" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2024 17:39:18 -0400

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Joel

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I have Hawk HPS =E2=80=93 HB169 F.560 pad on my Tiger, very happy.

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I have Raybestos Element 3 pads on my daily drive =E2=80=93 they seem =
great.

Rock Auto=20

 =
<https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/sunbeam,1966,tiger,4.3l+v8,1409240,b=
rake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684> 1966 SUNBEAM TIGER 4.3L V8 Brake Pad | =
RockAuto

RAYBESTOS PGD2 Element 3

There are other options listed for Tiger but I have no experience with =
any of these pads on a Tiger.

=20

Ron Fraser

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From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Joel Martin =
via Tigers
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 4:20 PM
To: Tiger List Serve <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Brake Pads

=20

After a 215 mile one way trip running around 60 mph and then a straight =
up, switch backs, too many to count, run - brakes took a toll.  Right =
front had some smoking at bottom of mountain.  Brakes heavily used going =
up as well as down.  First - second gear a major work out, not to =
mention the operator - not sure I ever down- shifted 2nd to 1st this =
many times in any kind of run.

=20

I was not really happy with the braking performance.  Any Hawk pad =
recommendations, tire rack sale,   HPS - High performance street, PC - =
HP Ceramic or HPS 5.0 HP street, anyone who has used for awhile and were =
happy or not happy, comments  would be appreciated.  Model and part =
numbers would be appreciated as Tire Rack does not list Sunbeams.  Not =
big on pads with alot of dust or noise.

=20

This trip was to a British Car show outside of Ashville, NC.  About 200 =
car participating.  9 Sunbeams, 7 Tigers, 1 Alpine and 1 Algir.  Alpine =
won 1st with my Tiger coming in second.  Hot day and fun.  Next big =
Sunbeam gathering is the British Car Day outside of  Charleston, SC on =
October 19th.  If you are in the Southeast, you should try and make it =
although you must be pre-registered, no day of show registrations.

=20

=20

Joel Martin

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class=3DMsoNormal>Joel<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have Hawk =
HPS =E2=80=93 HB169 F.560 pad on my Tiger, very happy.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have =
Raybestos Element 3 pads on my daily drive =E2=80=93 they seem =
great.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Rock Auto <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/sunbeam,1966,tiger,4.3l+v8,14=
09240,brake+&amp;+wheel+hub,brake+pad,1684"><span =
style=3D'color:blue'>1966 SUNBEAM TIGER 4.3L V8 Brake Pad | =
RockAuto</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>RAYBESTOS&nbsp;PGD2&nbsp;Element 3<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>There are other options listed for Tiger but I have no =
experience with any of these pads on a Tiger.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joel Martin =
via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 23, 2024 4:20 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger List Serve =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Tiger Brake =
Pads<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>After a 215 mile =
one way trip running around 60 mph and then a straight up, switch backs, =
too many to count, run - brakes took a toll.&nbsp; Right front had some =
smoking at bottom of mountain.&nbsp; Brakes heavily used going up as =
well as down.&nbsp; First - second gear a major work out, not to mention =
the operator - not sure I ever down- shifted 2nd to 1st this many times =
in any kind of run.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>I was not really =
happy with the braking performance.&nbsp; Any Hawk pad recommendations, =
tire rack sale,&nbsp;&nbsp; HPS - High performance street, PC - HP =
Ceramic or HPS 5.0 HP street, anyone who has used for awhile and were =
happy or not happy, comments&nbsp; would be appreciated.&nbsp; Model and =
part numbers would be appreciated as Tire Rack does not list =
Sunbeams.&nbsp; Not big on pads with alot of dust or =
noise.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>This trip was to =
a British Car show outside of Ashville, NC.&nbsp; About 200 car =
participating.&nbsp; 9 Sunbeams, 7 Tigers, 1 Alpine and 1 Algir.&nbsp; =
Alpine won 1st with my Tiger coming in second.&nbsp; Hot day and =
fun.&nbsp; Next big Sunbeam gathering is the British Car Day outside =
of&nbsp; Charleston, SC on October 19th.&nbsp; If you are in the =
Southeast, you should try and make it although you must be =
pre-registered, no day of show =
registrations.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Thank you for =
the recommendations.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Joel =
Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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From: michael king <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 09:59:02 +0800

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Joel,

I would say that the majority of pads that perform well generally generate
a fair bit of brake dust as they tend to be a bit softer.

Also be careful re the performance for a one off drive vs your usual
driving... more competition style pads that stand up well to track days
tend to require a bit of heat in them, and are not always the best for
normal road driving.

Just some thoughts.

MK

> Model and part numbers would be appreciated as Tire Rack does not list
> Sunbeams.  Not big on pads with alot of dust or noise.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Joel,</div><div><br></div><div>I would say that the m=
ajority of pads that perform well generally generate a fair bit of brake du=
st as they tend to be a bit softer.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Also be =
careful re the performance for a one off drive vs your usual driving... mor=
e competition style pads that stand up well to track days tend to require a=
 bit of heat in them, and are not always the best for normal road driving.<=
/div><div><br></div><div>Just some thoughts.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div=
>MK</div><div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot=
;new york&quot;,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>Model and =
part numbers would be appreciated as Tire Rack does not list Sunbeams.=C2=
=A0 Not big on pads with alot of dust or noise.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thank you for the recommendations.<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Joel Martin<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div></div></div>________________________=
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