Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor Vacuum advance Round 2

From: STEVE MURPHY via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 07:39:02 -0400 (EDT)

May be of use to someone.

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> That Z5TF is the Ford engineering number, not the part number. It is Tiger specific but not the part number, the part number (if you were able to order it) is C4OE-12127-A. The advance is B9AF-12370-A and is used on many Ford engines. This B9AF-12370-A part has been obsolete for a while, it was superseded by a vacuum advance that has the vacuum hose connection built into it, this advance is still available and will work, but it isn't concours correct.
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> David Franchi
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> On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 03:18:15 PM PDT, Stu <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> Ron directed me to the right part number location, and the number there is Z5TF-12127 C.This number also doesn't appear at any of the usual parts sources. 
> An article on the CAT forum confirms that this is the correct Tiger distributor, and there is mention of it on a few other sites.
> 
> But is Z5TF equivalent to any other Cxxx distributor numbers, at least for vacuum advance modules?
> 
> Stu
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> Stu
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> I’m not sure why Ford made the ID # of these distributors Z5TF-C unless it was to make sure they did not go to the Ford production line.
> 
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> The Z5TF-C has nearly the same advance curve as C4OF-A.
> 
> Z5TF-C - Ford equivalent is C5JT-C
> 
> C5AF-M is the MK II distributor
> 
>  
> 
> The vacuum canister for all these distributors is similar but not the exact same.
> 
>  
> 
> The early canister B9AF-12379-A has threaded boss.
> 
> The later canister C5AZ-12370-A - later style with no threads – threaded boss is on distributor housing.
> 
>  
> 
> You need the later style canister.  Use C5AF-M for the ID#.
> 
>  
> 
> I believe most or all the vacuum canisters available today are the later style and many of them have an internal screw to change the vacuum advance.   All of these use a vacuum hose not the original steel hardline.
> 
>  
> 
> For concours, there are some shops that rebuild the original vacuum canister.
> 
>  
> 
> Ron Fraser
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> From: Stu <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 6:10 PM
> To: Tiger Net <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
> Subject: Distributor Vacuum advance Round 2
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> Ron directed me to the right part number location, and the number there is Z5TF-12127 C.This number also doesn't appear at any of the usual parts sources. 
> 
> An article on the CAT forum confirms that this is the correct Tiger distributor, and there is mention of it on a few other sites.
> 
>  
> 
> But is Z5TF equivalent to any other Cxxx distributor numbers, at least for vacuum advance modules?
> 
>  
> 
> Stu
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From: D or G at sbc via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:19:04 +0000 (UTC)

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 Good price, but that is for a 6 cyl.
David Franchi

    On Sunday, August 25, 2024 at 04:45:46 AM PDT, STEVE MURPHY via Tigers =
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 May be of use to someone.

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32-2357-0&ssspo=3DnLfobrrwTwy&sssrc=3D2047675&ssuid=3D2edIDDLoQLa&widget_ve=
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> That Z5TF is the Ford engineering number, not the part number. It is Tige=
r specific but not the part number, the part number (if you were able to or=
der it) is C4OE-12127-A. The advance is B9AF-12370-A and is used on many Fo=
rd engines. This B9AF-12370-A part has been obsolete for a while, it was su=
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> Ron directed me to the right part number location, and the number there i=
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> But is Z5TF equivalent to any other Cxxx distributor numbers, at least fo=
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> An article on the CAT forum confirms that this is the correct Tiger distr=
ibutor, and there is mention of it on a few other sites.
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ut not the part number, the part number (if you were able to order it) is C=
4OE-12127-A. The advance is B9AF-12370-A and is used on many Ford engines. =
This B9AF-12370-A part has been obsolete for a while, it was superseded by =
a vacuum advance that has the vacuum hose connection built into it, this ad=
vance is still available and will work, but it isn't concours correct.<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; David Franchi<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt; On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 03:18:15 PM PDT, Stu &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">sabre2tgr@gma=
il.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Ron directed me to the right part=
 number location, and the number there is Z5TF-12127 C.This number also doe=
sn't appear at any of the usual parts sources. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; An article on the CAT forum confirms that this is the correct Tiger dis=
tributor, and there is mention of it on a few other sites.<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; But is Z5TF equivalent to an=
y other Cxxx distributor numbers, at least for vacuum advance modules?<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Stu<br></div><di=
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><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I=E2=80=99m not sure=
 why Ford made the ID # of these distributors Z5TF-C unless it was to make =
sure they did not go to the Ford production line.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
 <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The Z5TF-C has nearly the same advance cur=
ve as C4OF-A.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
; Z5TF-C - Ford equivalent is C5JT-C<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; C5AF-M is the MK II distributor<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The vacuum canister for all these =
distributors is similar but not the exact same.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The early canister B9AF-12379-A has threaded=
 boss.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The l=
ater canister C5AZ-12370-A - later style with no threads =E2=80=93 threaded=
 boss is on distributor housing.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&gt; You need the later style canister.&nbsp; Use C5AF-M for the=
 ID#.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; =
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I believe m=
ost or all the vacuum canisters available today are the later style and man=
y of them have an internal screw to change the vacuum advance.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
All of these use a vacuum hose not the original steel hardline.<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; For concours, there are some=
 shops that rebuild the original vacuum canister.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
 <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Ron Fraser<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; =
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: Stu &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sabre2tgr@gmail.=
com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 6:10 PM<br></div><di=
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f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">rfrase=
[email-masked]</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Distributor Vacu=
um advance Round 2<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
; Ron directed me to the right part number location, and the number there i=
s Z5TF-12127 C.This number also doesn't appear at any of the usual parts so=
urces. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; An a=
rticle on the CAT forum confirms that this is the correct Tiger distributor=
, and there is mention of it on a few other sites.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; But is Z5TF equivalent to any other Cxxx =
distributor numbers, at least for vacuum advance modules?<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Stu<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">____=
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