Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor Vacuum advance Round 2

From: D or G at sbc via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 23:16:16 +0000 (UTC)

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 That Z5TF is the Ford engineering number, not the part number. It is Tiger=
 specific but not the part number, the part number (if you were able to ord=
er it) is C4OE-12127-A. The advance is B9AF-12370-A and is used on many For=
d engines. This B9AF-12370-A part has been obsolete for a while, it was sup=
erseded by a vacuum advance that has the vacuum hose connection built into =
it, this advance is still available and will work, but it isn't concours co=
rrect.
David Franchi

    On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 03:18:15 PM PDT, Stu <[email-masked]=
m> wrote: =20
=20
 Ron directed me to the right part number location, and the number there is=
 Z5TF-12127 C.This number also doesn't appear at any of the usual parts sou=
rces.=C2=A0An article on the CAT forum confirms that this is the correct Ti=
ger distributor, and there is mention of it on a few other sites.
But is Z5TF equivalent to any other Cxxx distributor numbers, at least for =
vacuum advance modules?
Stu

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number, the part number (if you were able to order it) is C4OE-12127-A.=20
The advance is B9AF-12370-A and is used on many Ford engines. This <span>B9=
AF-12370-A
 part has been obsolete for a while, it was superseded by a vacuum=20
advance that has the vacuum hose connection built into it, this advance=20
is still available and will work, but it isn't concours correct.</span></di=
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                        On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 03:18:15 PM PDT, Stu=
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<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp13726d3eyiv6512519830gmail_defa=
ult">Ron directed me to the right part number location, and the number ther=
e is Z5TF-12127 C.This number also doesn't appear at any of the usual parts=
 sources.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp13726d3eyi=
v6512519830gmail_default">An article on the CAT forum confirms that this is=
 the correct Tiger distributor, and there is mention of it on a few other s=
ites.</div><div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp13726d3eyiv651251983=
0gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp13726=
d3eyiv6512519830gmail_default">But is Z5TF equivalent to any other Cxxx dis=
tributor numbers, at least for vacuum advance modules?</div><div style=3D"f=
ont-size:small;" class=3D"ydp13726d3eyiv6512519830gmail_default"><br></div>=
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From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 19:42:23 -0400

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Stu

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I=E2=80=99m not sure why Ford made the ID # of these distributors Z5TF-C =
unless it was to make sure they did not go to the Ford production line.

=20

The Z5TF-C has nearly the same advance curve as C4OF-A.

Z5TF-C - Ford equivalent is C5JT-C

C5AF-M is the MK II distributor

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The vacuum canister for all these distributors is similar but not the =
exact same.

=20

The early canister B9AF-12379-A has threaded boss.

The later canister C5AZ-12370-A - later style with no threads =E2=80=93 =
threaded boss is on distributor housing.

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You need the later style canister.  Use C5AF-M for the ID#.

=20

I believe most or all the vacuum canisters available today are the later =
style and many of them have an internal screw to change the vacuum =
advance.   All of these use a vacuum hose not the original steel =
hardline.

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For concours, there are some shops that rebuild the original vacuum =
canister.

=20

Ron Fraser

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From: Stu <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 6:10 PM
To: Tiger Net <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: Distributor Vacuum advance Round 2

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Ron directed me to the right part number location, and the number there =
is Z5TF-12127 C.This number also doesn't appear at any of the usual =
parts sources.=20

An article on the CAT forum confirms that this is the correct Tiger =
distributor, and there is mention of it on a few other sites.

=20

But is Z5TF equivalent to any other Cxxx distributor numbers, at least =
for vacuum advance modules?

=20

Stu

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class=3DMsoNormal>Stu<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99m =
not sure why Ford made the ID # of these distributors Z5TF-C unless it =
was to make sure they did not go to the Ford production =
line.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The Z5TF-C has nearly the same advance curve as =
C4OF-A.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Z5TF-C - Ford equivalent is =
C5JT-C<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>C5AF-M is the MK II =
distributor<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The vacuum canister for all these distributors is =
similar but not the exact same.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The early =
canister B9AF-12379-A has threaded boss.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The later canister C5AZ-12370-A - later style with no =
threads =E2=80=93 threaded boss is on distributor =
housing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>You need the later style canister.=C2=A0 Use C5AF-M =
for the ID#.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I believe most or all the vacuum canisters available =
today are the later style and many of them have an internal screw to =
change the vacuum advance.=C2=A0=C2=A0 All of these use a vacuum hose =
not the original steel hardline.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>For =
concours, there are some shops that rebuild the original vacuum =
canister.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> =
Stu &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 13, =
2024 6:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger Net &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Distributor Vacuum advance Round =
2<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Ron directed me to =
the right part number location, and the number there is Z5TF-12127 =
C.This number also doesn't appear at any of the usual parts =
sources.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>An article on the CAT =
forum confirms that this is the correct Tiger distributor, and there is =
mention of it on a few other sites.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>But is Z5TF =
equivalent to any other Cxxx distributor numbers, at least for vacuum =
advance modules?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Stu<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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