Subject: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?

From: Daniel Eiland via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 16:48:59 +0000 (UTC)

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I've noticed I'm not receiving much from the Tiger. Makes me wonder if I'm =
still on the list. I posted to the list yesterday and normally I get my pos=
ts in my email, but I got nothing. If I got removed from the list, can I ge=
t back on please.
TIA,Dan Eiland=C2=A0

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I've noticed I'm not receiving much from the Tiger. Makes me wonder if I'm still on the list. I posted to the list yesterday and normally I get my posts in my email, but I got nothing. If I got removed from the list, can I get back on please.<div><br></div><div>TIA,</div><div>Dan Eiland&nbsp;<br><br><div id="ymail_android_signature"><a id="ymail_android_signature_link" href="https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&amp;c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&amp;af_wl=ym&amp;af_sub1=Internal&amp;af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&amp;af_sub3=EmailSignature&amp;af_web_dp=https://more.att.com/currently/imap">Sent from AT&amp;T Yahoo Mail on Android</a></div></div>
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From: "Dr. T. Y. McDowell" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 13:11:28 -0500 (EST)

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Hi Dan,
 
I've received very few Tiger emails as well.
I guess there's very few of us left!
 
TYM

> On 03/04/2024 11:48 AM EST Daniel Eiland via Tigers <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> I've noticed I'm not receiving much from the Tiger. Makes me wonder if I'm still on the list. I posted to the list yesterday and normally I get my posts in my email, but I got nothing. If I got removed from the list, can I get back on please.
>  
> TIA,
> Dan Eiland 
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   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Hi Dan,</span>
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   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I've received very few Tiger emails as well.</span>
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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 18:55:37 +0000

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From: Owain Lloyd <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 20:32:44 +0100

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Shame indeed.

On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 at 20:04, Dr. T. Y. McDowell <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I've noticed I'm not receiving much from the Tiger. Makes me wonder if I'm
> still on the list. I posted to the list yesterday and normally I get my
> posts in my email, but I got nothing. If I got removed from the list, can I
> get back on please.
>
> TIA,
> Dan Eiland
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<div dir=3D"auto">Shame indeed.</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 at 20:04, Dr. T. Y. =
McDowell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;bord=
er-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><u></u>

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   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Hi Dan,</span>
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
   =C2=A0
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  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">I&#39;ve received v=
ery few Tiger emails as well.</span>
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">I guess there&#39;s=
 very few of us left!</span>
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
   =C2=A0
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   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">TYM</span>
  </div>=20
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   </div>=20
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    =C2=A0
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    =C2=A0
   </div> I&#39;ve noticed I&#39;m not receiving much from the Tiger. Makes=
 me wonder if I&#39;m still on the list. I posted to the list yesterday and=
 normally I get my posts in my email, but I got nothing. If I got removed f=
rom the list, can I get back on please.=20
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    =C2=A0
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    TIA,
   </div>=20
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From: Mark Bradakis via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 14:07:04 -0700

Well if you were not on the list, your message would not have been sent 
to the list, but held as a non-member post.  So it is safe to say you 
are still on the list, but traffic has been pretty slow lately.

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Am I missing a lot of Tiger conversation by not being on Facebook?  I
really, REALLY, don't want to be on Facebook. If all of the action is there
now I'll try to figure out how to get on there without getting all of the
other garbage.

Thanks,
Joe Brown

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Am I missing a lot of Tiger conversation by not being on F=
acebook?=C2=A0 I really, REALLY, don&#39;t want to be on Facebook. If all o=
f the action is there now I&#39;ll try to figure out how to get on there wi=
thout getting all of the other garbage.<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><di=
v>Joe Brown</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 1:17=E2=80=AFPM Dr. T. Y. McDowell =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
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   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Hi Dan,</span>
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   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">I&#39;ve received v=
ery few Tiger emails as well.</span>
  </div>=20
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:rgb(51,51,51)">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">I guess there&#39;s=
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:rgb(51,51,51)">
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   </div> I&#39;ve noticed I&#39;m not receiving much from the Tiger. Makes=
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 normally I get my posts in my email, but I got nothing. If I got removed f=
rom the list, can I get back on please.=20
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    TIA,
   </div>=20
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From: <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 19:02:35 -0500

Tiger Team -

The recent question about the activity on this net prompted me to pose a
question to this valuable community.

My Tiger, with less than 15K miles since fresh motor and Centerforce II
clutch installation (albeit 20 yrs ago), has started to shudder
uncomfortably during clutch operation.  I'm able to mitigate the shudder
with careful feathering of the clutch - upping the rpms and letting the
clutch out more carefully, but the previously smooth release isn't there.
The shudder is definitely more noticeable in 1st-2nd gear shifts.  

A bit of internet research says the shudder is being caused by
irregular/inconsistent pressure across the surface of the pressure plate and
the clutch needs to be replaced (again, and perhaps properly).  It can also
be caused by contaminants on the pressure plate, causing the same irregular
slippage during rotation.  

Is this something that can be minimized through clutch adjustment at the
slave cylinder?   I don't have access to a lift, so would have to take to a
shop to resolve.  Do I bite the bullet and commit to a clutch replacement?

Thanks, team!  

Cheers, 
Graham Harlowe 
B382001466

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From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Mark Bradakis via
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Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 4:07 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?

Well if you were not on the list, your message would not have been sent to
the list, but held as a non-member post.  So it is safe to say you are still
on the list, but traffic has been pretty slow lately.

mjb.

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From: Erich Coiner via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 17:47:02 -0800 (PST)

First, check that motor mounts are in good shape.
Next, there are no clutch adjustments other than bleeding the system.
Also you can get that done with 2 jackstands and your spare tire jack. so no crying that you don't have a lift. I don't either.
Lastly, aside from contamination, the other source of shudder is not enough marcel in the friction disc.  Marcel is the wavy spring between the friction pads. If it gets smashed down, the disc doesnt't have enough compliance to render smooth engagement.
Good luck.
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>From what I understand, it is generally caused by burning the clutch.  This
is either from heat/friction or oil dripping on the clutch.  I don't know
how that type of clutch is adjusted and matched.  But the WORST time and
greatest risk for burning a clutch is when it is not fully off or on.  In
the slippage area.  The longer you are in the slip zone, the higher the
risk of burning.  Just one good slipped burn out can toast a clutch like
that.

And it's all surfaces that need to be checked: flywheel, clutch plate and
clutch.

Happy for people to tell me that's not all there is.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">From what I=C2=A0understand, it is generally=C2=A0caused=
=C2=A0by burning the clutch.=C2=A0 This is either from heat/friction or oil=
 dripping on the clutch.=C2=A0 I don&#39;t know how that type of clutch is =
adjusted and matched.=C2=A0 But the WORST time and greatest risk for burnin=
g a clutch is when it is not fully off or on.=C2=A0 In the slippage area.=
=C2=A0 The longer you are in the slip zone, the higher the risk of burning.=
=C2=A0 Just one good slipped burn out can toast a clutch like that. =C2=A0<=
div><br></div><div>And it&#39;s all surfaces that need to be checked: flywh=
eel, clutch plate and clutch.</div><div><br></div><div>Happy for people to =
tell me that&#39;s not all there is.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 5:07=E2=80=
=AFPM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
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r:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
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The recent question about the activity on this net prompted me to pose a<br=
question to this valuable community.<br>
<br>
My Tiger, with less than 15K miles since fresh motor and Centerforce II<br>
clutch installation (albeit 20 yrs ago), has started to shudder<br>
uncomfortably during clutch operation.=C2=A0 I&#39;m able to mitigate the s=
hudder<br>
with careful feathering of the clutch - upping the rpms and letting the<br>
clutch out more carefully, but the previously smooth release isn&#39;t ther=
e.<br>
The shudder is definitely more noticeable in 1st-2nd gear shifts.=C2=A0 <br=
<br>
A bit of internet research says the shudder is being caused by<br>
irregular/inconsistent pressure across the surface of the pressure plate an=
d<br>
the clutch needs to be replaced (again, and perhaps properly).=C2=A0 It can=
 also<br>
be caused by contaminants on the pressure plate, causing the same irregular=
<br>
slippage during rotation.=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
Is this something that can be minimized through clutch adjustment at the<br=
slave cylinder?=C2=A0 =C2=A0I don&#39;t have access to a lift, so would hav=
e to take to a<br>
shop to resolve.=C2=A0 Do I bite the bullet and commit to a clutch replacem=
ent?<br>
<br>
Thanks, team!=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
Cheers, <br>
Graham Harlowe <br>
B382001466<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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I personally feel the forum's and the list are a lot more focused and
useful than FB...

FB has a much broader exposure...and you get a lot more un -researched ,
uneducated people just throwing stuff around as "fact" throw in that and
the relative lack of moderation... It's somewhat of a cluster... But sadly
is taking some of the activity from the list...

Also the list demographic is getting older and some have moved on from the
cars and lost in one way or another.

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">I personally feel the =
forum&#39;s and the list are a lot more focused and useful than FB...=C2=A0=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">FB has a much broader exp=
osure...and you get a lot more un -researched , uneducated people just thro=
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f moderation... It&#39;s somewhat of a cluster... But sadly is taking some =
of the activity from the list...</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Also the list demographic is getting older and some have moved on =
from the cars and lost in one way or another.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, 5 Mar 2024, 7:=
46=E2=80=AFam Joe Brown, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">jbbro=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"min-width:150=
px;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-=
left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Am I missing a lot of Tiger conversation by not =
being on Facebook?=C2=A0 I really, REALLY, don&#39;t want to be on Facebook=
. If all of the action is there now I&#39;ll try to figure out how to get o=
n there without getting all of the other garbage.<div><br></div><div>Thanks=
,</div><div>Joe Brown</div></div></blockquote></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><=
/div><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature" dir=3D"auto">______________<br=
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My guess would be a leaking rear main seal which is very common.  The
centerforce clutches take quite a beating.  Obviously anything down there
is unfortunately an engine out job anyway on a tiger so you might as well
just start there if you want to fix it.

On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 at 05:45, Jay Laifman <[email-masked]> wrote:

> From what I understand, it is generally caused by burning the clutch.
> This is either from heat/friction or oil dripping on the clutch.  I don't
> know how that type of clutch is adjusted and matched.  But the WORST time
> and greatest risk for burning a clutch is when it is not fully off or on.
> In the slippage area.  The longer you are in the slip zone, the higher th=
e
>> clutch out more carefully, but the previously smooth release isn't there=
.
>> slave cylinder?   I don't have access to a lift, so would have to take t=
o
>> a
>> shop to resolve.  Do I bite the bullet and commit to a clutch replacemen=
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<div dir=3D"auto">My guess would be a leaking rear main seal which is very =
common.=C2=A0 The centerforce clutches take quite a beating.=C2=A0 Obviousl=
y anything down there is unfortunately an engine out job anyway on a tiger =
so you might as well just start there if you want to fix it.</div><div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, 5 =
Mar 2024 at 05:45, Jay Laifman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-s=
tyle:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">From what I=C2=A0understand, it is generally=C2=A0caused=C2=A0by burn=
ing the clutch.=C2=A0 This is either from heat/friction or oil dripping on =
the clutch.=C2=A0 I don&#39;t know how that type of clutch is adjusted and =
matched.=C2=A0 But the WORST time and greatest risk for burning a clutch is=
 when it is not fully off or on.=C2=A0 In the slippage area.=C2=A0 The long=
er you are in the slip zone, the higher the risk of burning.=C2=A0 Just one=
 good slipped burn out can toast a clutch like that. =C2=A0<div><br></div><=
div>And it&#39;s all surfaces that need to be checked: flywheel, clutch pla=
te and clutch.</div><div><br></div><div>Happy for people to tell me that&#3=
9;s not all there is.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"></div><div =
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From: walmenke--- via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 23:20:48 +1100

Hi Graham

I would recommend bleeding the clutch and replacing all the fluid in it so
that it's fresh. If you haven't done this for a while the fluid could have
some moisture and air in it causing uneven travel. Is the slave cylinder
mounted outside, or is it inside the bellhousing? If its outside it may be
worth pulling apart and fitting a new seal kit to it. It's a quick job
compared to pulling everything out to replace the clutch.

Good Luck
Wally Menke
Melbourne, Australia

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Subject: [Tigers] Centerforce Clutch Shudder

Tiger Team -

Thanks, team!  

Cheers,
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On Mar 5, 2024, at 6:26=E2=80=AFAM, steve wick via Tigers <[email-masked]=
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I really, really hate FB, but it was the only game in town for another of m=
y cars. I took a page from the scammers and used a fictitious name to creat=
e an account, and don't use FB for anything but that group. I selected all =
the don't share

I really, really hate FB, but it was the only game in town for another of m=
y cars. I took a page from the scammers and used a fictitious name to creat=
e an account, and don't use FB for anything but that group. I selected all =
the don't share anything options when I set up the account and don't "frien=
d" anyone. So far, no problems. I will say I enjoy this group more than the=
 one I'm in on FB, even though I read more than I post. Some of those peopl=
e are kind of a-holes, not particularly pleasant and kind of stuck on thems=
elves. I stay for the info.

Steve
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From: Tigers <[email-masked]> on behalf of Joe Brown <jbbrow=
[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 2:36 PM
To: Dr. T. Y. McDowell <[email-masked]>
Cc: Daniel Eiland via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?

Am I missing a lot of Tiger conversation by not being on Facebook?  I reall=
y, REALLY, don't want to be on Facebook. If all of the action is there now =
I'll try to figure out how to get on there without getting all of the other=
 garbage.

Thanks,
Joe Brown

TYM
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I really, really hate FB, but it was the only game in town for another of m=
y cars. I took a page from the scammers and used a fictitious name to creat=
e an account, and don't use FB for anything but that group. I selected all =
the don't share anything options
 when I set up the account and don't &quot;friend&quot; anyone. So far, no =
problems. I will say I enjoy this group more than the one I'm in on FB, eve=
n though I read more than I post. Some of those people are kind of a-holes,=
 not particularly pleasant and kind of stuck
 on themselves. I stay for the info.</div>
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s-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
Steve</div>
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<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex=3D"-1">
<div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" st=
yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Tigers &lt;tigers-bou=
[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Joe Brown &lt;[email-masked]&gt=
;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 4, 2024 2:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dr. T. Y. McDowell &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Daniel Eiland via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Am I still on the list?</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Am I missing a lot of Tiger conversation by not being on F=
acebook?&nbsp; I really, REALLY, don't want to be on Facebook. If all of th=
e action is there now I'll try to figure out how to get on there without ge=
tting all of the other garbage.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Joe Brown</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"x_gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 1:17=E2=80=
=AFPM Dr. T. Y. McDowell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tym2@comca=
st.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
<u></u>
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:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica; font-size:12pt">Hi Dan,</span> </div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt; font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
&nbsp; </div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt; font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica; font-size:12pt">I've received very fe=
w Tiger emails as well.</span>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt; font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica; font-size:12pt">I guess there's very =
few of us left!</span>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt; font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color=
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