Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 143

From: Joel Martin via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2023 14:47:08 +0000 (UTC)

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Tiger Running hot =E2=80=93 Shotgun Approach after time of trying baby step=
s.

After about a year of struggling with car running hot at idle with thehood =
down, Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I took drastic steps.=C2=A0 I hav=
e been driving the car during the last yearonly on back roads with not much=
 chance of traffic lights and traffic.=C2=A0 I live in rural NC outside of =
Pinehurst.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Bloody yahoo mail formatting ruined numberin=
g copied from MS Word, so please ignore.=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 1. Purchased and installed Sunbeam Specialties (=
SS) gloss black radiator overflow tank, missing from car.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2. Purchased and installed overflow tank straps from Ale=
xander Washick=C2=[email-masked] which are powder coated, missing from=
 car.  =20
   - Purchased and installed undersize water pump pulley from Robert Stragh=
an=C2=A0<[email-masked]> scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black
   - Purchased and installed horn hole block plates from Don Lutjen=C2=A0<d=
[email-masked]> scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black.
   - Purchased and installed new taller custom aluminum cross flow side tan=
k radiator from Griffin Radiator.
   - Purchased and installed new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painted Fo=
rd dark blue to match engine replacing SS water pump, pressed hub to line u=
p.
   - Modified the mechanical fan spacer so that front of fan is 1=E2=80=9D =
from radiator.
   - Mechanical fan remains Flex-a-Lite 14=E2=80=9D nylon 6 blade fan.
   - Purchased and installed new SS lower radiator and overflow to radiator=
 hoses.
   - New top radiator hose from local source, as SS hose would not fit tall=
er radiator.
   - New fan belt.
   - Purchased and refurbished original Tiger fan shroud which would not fi=
t as I did not want to cut a original shroud top mounting bracket to fit my=
 taller radiator.=C2=A0 Striped, primed and painted used shroud semi gloss =
black =E2=80=93 sitting on shelf.
   - Installed 160 degree thermostat from 180.=C2=A0 Could not find 170 deg=
ree.=C2=A0 If anyone has a part number and supplier for a 170-degree thermo=
stat, please forward.

So at this point I do not have a fan shroud =E2=80=93 unlessmake up a custo=
m.=C2=A0 Other changes couldmake is front air dam and block front cross mem=
ber to bottom of radiator spacingbut for now I am going to see how things p=
lay out this summer.

=C2=A0Ok after all the above I was still not satisfied withwatching the tem=
perature gauge increase while at idle or in stop and gotraffic.=C2=A0 Goal =
was to keep thetemperature at ALL times between 180 and 190 degrees whether=
 driving or atidle.

=C2=A0The following changes have been made since the abovechanges 1-13 afte=
r trial period of 6 months or so.

=C2=A0The Flow Kooler water pump started leaking so I purchased the SS wate=
r pump and installed it and drove for a month or so.=C2=A0 Install error on=
 the Flow Kooler water pump gasket turned out to be the problem.=C2=A0 The =
SS water pump actually raised idle temps 2-3 degrees so I would later reins=
tall the Flow Kooler with a new gasket.
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   - Installed a couple of 12=E2=80=9D electric pusher fans I had in the ga=
rage and wired a manual off/on switch under the dash with a relay.=C2=A0 No=
t much help or change in idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go tr=
affic.
   - Built and installed a custom fan shroud.=C2=A0 Remember I have an over=
size Griffin radiator.=C2=A0 This change resulted in idle temp. drop by may=
be 2-3 degrees.=C2=A0 Goal not achieve at this point but getting better.
   - I then discussed issue with Flex-a-lite technical services hot line (m=
ultiple times) regarding their electric pusher fan line.
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   - The rule of thumb they recommend:=C2=A0 Electric fans of either the pu=
sher or puller type should be that the electric fan should cover 70% of the=
 radiator surface.=C2=A0 Mine came out to 69.5% coverage.
   - Small block V-8 engines recommendation is=C2=A0 3,000 CFM.
   - Flex - a- Lite had only 1 fan that met these specifications.

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=C2=A0
  | =20
FLX-105391
 Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, 16 in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm, Black=
, 20 amps,=C2=A0=20
 (Mfr. #: 239)=20
  |

  =20
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   - Also purchased temp probe and relay from Flex =E2=80=93 a Lite which i=
s adjustable so you can set when the fan comes on.=C2=A0 Off is 10 degrees =
from on temp and is NOT adjustable.

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  | =20
FLX-121281
 Fan Control, Compact, Adjustable, Thread-in Probe, Single Fan, Kit=20
 (Mfr. #: 33095)=20
  |

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 e. Also purcha=
sed temperature probe adapter and installed in the upper radiator hose.
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=C2=A0
  | =20
FLX-107078
 Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2 in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in. NPT =
Ports, Includes One Plug, Each=20
 (Mfr. #: 32082)=20
  |

The idea was torun the stock temp gauge probe=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 intot=
he adapter and keep my mechanical temperature gauge in place in the manifol=
dto verify stock gauge was pretty accurate.=C2=A0The =C2=BC NPT port would =
not handle the stock probe and I could not find 1/4probe with the correct o=
hms for the stock gauge, so manual temp gauge is stillin place which I beli=
eve is accurate.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0f.=C2=A0 Goal still not achieved
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   - Flex - a - Lite then offered the following advice =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9CY=
ou typically only need one or the other. If you have a mechanical fan and j=
ust want extra cooling in stop and go traffic, I suggest you use a much sma=
ller electric fan. But using both a mechanical and this bigger electric fan=
 will probably cause some disruption.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0 The two smaller electr=
ic fans I used did not work in my case, so advice about smaller electric fa=
n in conjunction with mechanical water pump fan did not work in my particul=
ar car.

=C2=A0Plan =E2=80=A6. Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump with new gaske=
t.
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   - Removed the mechanical fan from the water pump and the 1=E2=80=9D spac=
er.=C2=A0 Finally success!=C2=A0 Temp stays between 176 and 190 at ALL time=
s regardless of ambient temperature and traffic conditions. So, in my case,=
 the mechanical fan in conjunction with the electric fan was causing air fl=
ow disruption.
   - =C2=A0The temp at speed above 35 mph, the car runs around 176 degrees =
with 160 degree thermostat in temps 90 degrees and less.=C2=A0 About 183 in=
 temperatures above 90, so not a issue. I might try out the 180 degree ther=
mostat at some point, 170 if I could find one might be optimum for my car.=
=C2=A0 The only down side for me is the electric fan is noisy when running =
and volts on volt gauge drops around =C2=BD - =C2=BE- volt when the fan com=
es on.. The battery volts dropping are due to fan drawing 20 amps. This has=
 not been a issue with lights on or off. I have a alternator and not the ge=
nerator so with generator cars, this might be an issue.=C2=A0 Now I cannot =
hear the electric fan at all inside the car but outside, it is noisy when r=
unning.=C2=A0 Headers, 2.25" exhaust pipes with Flow Master series 40 muffl=
ers.=C2=A0 I wonder why I cannot hear fan running.

=C2=A0So you see I have tried almost all recommendedsuggestions except lowe=
r shroud addition and air dam to direct airflow.

=C2=A0Every car reacts differently to changesand you have to keep trying di=
fferent approaches that might work for your carand temperature\humidity of =
the area you reside.

=C2=A0What changes I have made to me that hadthe biggest result and what wo=
uld I try again in what order to minimize cost,effort and work involved.
Yahoo formatting again.=20
Test temp gauge and sender to ensure reading properly.  =20
   - Ensure radiator in good working order.
   - Change thermostat from 180 to 170 then 160.
   - Install horn block off plates, minimal cost and about 1 hour to instal=
l.
   - Fan shroud if you do not have one, 2-3 degrees improvement in my case,=
 custom made.=C2=A0 Possible making of the lower portion of the shroud as w=
ell, which I have not done.
   - Undersize water pump pulley and at same time, try a different mechanic=
al fan and ensure fan is 1=E2=80=9D from radiator.
   - Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680, 2-3 degrees improvement in my case
   - New Griffin radiator.=C2=A0 They sell a package for the Tiger with rad=
iator, electric fan and shroud.=C2=A0 Remember my radiator is a custom over=
size radiator install by previous owner and the stock Griffin radiator or p=
ackage would not work in my case but I have installed a new custom Griffin =
radiator.
   - Remove mechanical fan and install electric pusher fan that covers 70% =
of your radiator surface and moves 3,000 cfm=E2=80=99s as recommended for s=
mall block V-8 motors. Items 8 and 9 could be in reverse order and step 9 w=
ill not necessary if you purchase the Griffin Tiger package, your call.

=C2=A0So you see I have tried almost allrecommended suggestions except lowe=
r shroud addition and air dam to direct airflow and have finally met my goa=
l of keeping the temperature between 180 to 190degrees in all driving condi=
tions.=C2=A0 Ihope my trials and findings will help you moving forward.=C2=
=A0 Any questions, please ask.

=C2=A0Regards

Joel Martin
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=C2=A0 1. Re: Cooling Fan (LARRY PAULICK)
Joe, I did an article for Tigers United, that describes with photographs wh=
at I did for the full fans shroud.

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BTW, Tigers United has a lot of great articles covering the variety of subj=
ects. You might want to check it out.=C2=A0

On Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown <[email-masked]> wrote:
Thanks for all of the replies.=C2=A0 I have a mostly stock engine (with Ede=
lbrock intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator.=C2=A0 I have a temperature ga=
uge mounted on the intake and the engine seems to run a little over 200 at =
idle but I haven't had any problems while driving the car.=C2=A0 My problem=
 right now is that I took the car out one afternoon when the temperature wa=
s over 100 degrees and when I pulled into the garage and shut the engine of=
f it puked some water onto the floor.=C2=A0 The temp gauge was showing arou=
nd 250 degrees at that point.=C2=A0=C2=A0
I already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some horn op=
ening covers today.=C2=A0 I will also look at blocking off the area below t=
he radiator.=C2=A0 I have read all of the articles that people have referre=
d to and I believe I have an airflow problem at low speeds.=C2=A0 So I was =
just looking for pusher fan recommendations at this point.=C2=A0 =C2=A0
The best advice is to probably not drive in 100+ degree weather.
Thanks,Joe Brown
On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers <tigers@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:

I made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the stock tiger=
, fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air comes throu=
gh the radiator down towards the ground and circles back through the radiat=
or again. So essentially you're just recycling hot air from your own radiat=
or.=C2=A0 It works.=C2=A0

On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd <[email-masked]> wrote:
I think michael hit the nail on the head.=C2=A0 first need to know is it ov=
erheating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed?
a pusher fan will only help at very low speed or when stopped.=C2=A0 and sp=
al is the go to brand.=C2=A0 =C2=A0still need the horn holes and gap betwee=
n cross member and rad blocked.=C2=A0 cardboard and zip ties does the trick=
 quickly and can be replaced with a more permanent=C2=A0solution later if y=
ou want.=C2=A0 also need a fan shroud.
personally i've never needed the electric pusher fan because i have a small=
 13" flex fan on the water pump pulley.=C2=A0 that creates enough pull thro=
ugh the radiator at idle.
if its=C2=A0overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another problem enti=
rely and there are a variety=C2=A0of other things to check.
in my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain conditions=C2=A0(slow=
ing down after running fast in really high ambient temps above a particular=
 altitude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem.=C2=A0 there are a=
 bunch of things i could do there, most importantly a carb heat shield, but=
 i've=C2=A0only suffered from it once.
one thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling issues in the tiger =
over the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hose.=C2=A0 at =
least you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with thermosta=
t or water pump issues and if you're used to how it should look, even how b=
locked the radiator is.

On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers <[email-masked]=
.net> wrote:

I=E2=80=99ve been reading=C2=A0about cooling issues with tigers for more th=
at a decade (much less than some reading this) blocking horn holes, pusher =
fans, and shrouds etc etc. Entire studies have been done on=C2=A0this issue=
. Just check STOA, CAT or any club site. All good reads! I think the first =
place to start is=C2=A0knowing what the actual=C2=A0engine team really is. =
We all know that the original temp guage can be off. The other thing is: as=
 a dyed in the wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal engine temp. But, =
Ford engines can get to 195-200 degrees easily and that is not=C2=A0necessa=
rily a bad thing. Yes, I put a pusher in mine only because I had one. I=E2=
=80=99m not really sure is does=C2=A0anything. My=C2=A0original guage can s=
how 225-230 on =C2=A0a hot day (humidity plays a bitg role) but never has p=
ucked out fluid. The design of the should is an=C2=A0issue. It lets hot air=
 from the engine compartment to get under the radiator. Many, many, =E2=80=
=98fixes=E2=80=99 that can be=C2=A0done. However, on a hot low humidity day=
.. well good luck. JMO

On Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard <[email-masked]> wrote:
The article includes several suggestions.
One of them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan shroud at the b=
ottom.
A list member offered a piece he fabricated.
I obtained one and here are a couple of pictures. I hope to fit it later th=
is year.
Even a few degrees of cooling will be worth the effort.
Allan BallardMk1a Tiger

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 18, 2023, at 10:57 PM, Jay Laifman <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFHave you looked at this cooling suggestions? =C2=A0http://tigersun=
ited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanValance1.asp
It works great in Southern California heat.
On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:42=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

My Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in Texas.=C2=A0 I've re=
ad through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I will make some of =
the suggested modifications.=C2=A0 They listed two different pusher electri=
c fans in the article but both of them are no longer available.
So, has anybody recently installed a pusher fan?=C2=A0 If so, what part num=
bers?
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<p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Tiger Running hot =E2=80=93 Shotgun Appro=
ach after time of trying baby steps.</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">After about a year of struggling with car=
 running hot at idle with the
hood down, Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I took drastic steps.<span>&=
nbsp; </span>I have been driving the car during the last year
only on back roads with not much chance of traffic lights and traffic.<span=
>&nbsp; </span>I live in rural NC outside of Pinehurst.</span></font></p>

<div class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><font=
 size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">&nbsp=
;</span></font><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:12.0pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bloody yahoo mail formatting ruined=
 numbering copied from MS Word, so please ignore.&nbsp; <br></span></font><=
/div><div class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New=
 Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1. Purc=
hased and
     installed Sunbeam Specialties (SS) gloss black radiator overflow tank,
     missing from car.</span></font></div><div class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNorma=
l" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Rom=
an"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2=
. Purchased and
     installed overflow tank straps from <span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1dfrtlirt=
lidzssg">Alexander
     Washick</span><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf">&nbsp;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
om</a> which are powder
     coated</span>, missing from car.<span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf">=
</span></span></font></div><ol style=3D"margin-top:0in" type=3D"1" start=3D=
"1"><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf=
"><font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New R=
oman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Purchased and installed undersize wa=
ter pump
     pulley from </span></font></span><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1dfrtlirtlid=
zssg">Robert
     Straghan</span><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf">&nbsp;&lt;rgstrag=
[email-masked]&gt;
     scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black</span></li><li class=3D"y=
dpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"b=
ackground-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Purchased and installed horn hole block plates
     from </span></font></span><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1dfrtlirtlidzssg">D=
on Lutjen</span><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf">&nbsp;&lt;dlutjen55@g=
mail.com&gt; scuffed, primed and
     painted semi gloss black.</span></li><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal=
"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"background-color: in=
herit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt=
">Purchased and installed new taller custom
     aluminum cross flow side tank radiator from Griffin Radiator.</span></=
font></span></li><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68=
ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Purchased and install=
ed new Flow Kooler water
     pump BRA-1680 painted Ford dark blue to match engine replacing SS wate=
r
     pump, pressed hub to line up.</span></font></span></li><li class=3D"yd=
pc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"ba=
ckground-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Modified the mechanical fan spacer so that front
     of fan is 1=E2=80=9D from radiator.</span></font></span></li><li class=
=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=
=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Mechanical fan remains Flex-a-Lite 14=E2=80=9D ny=
lon 6
     blade fan.</span></font></span></li><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"=
><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"background-color: inh=
erit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"=
>Purchased and installed new SS lower radiator and
     overflow to radiator hoses.</span></font></span></li><li class=3D"ydpc=
0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"back=
ground-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"=
font-size:12.0pt">New top radiator hose from local source, as SS
     hose would not fit taller radiator.</span></font></span></li><li class=
=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=
=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.0pt">New fan belt.</span></font></span></li><li class=
=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=
=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Purchased and refurbished original Tiger fan
     shroud which would not fit as I did not want to cut a original shroud =
top
     mounting bracket to fit my taller radiator.<span>&nbsp; </span>Striped=
, primed and painted used shroud semi gloss black =E2=80=93
     sitting on shelf.</span></font></span></li><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1Mso=
Normal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"background-col=
or: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt">Installed 160 degree thermostat from 180.<span>&nbsp; </span>Could =
not find 170 degree.<span>&nbsp; </span>If anyone has a part number and
     supplier for a 170-degree thermostat, please forward.</span></font></s=
pan></li></ol>

<p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><fo=
nt style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">So at this point I do not have a fan shro=
ud =E2=80=93 unless
make up a custom.<span>&nbsp; </span>Other changes could
make is front air dam and block front cross member to bottom of radiator sp=
acing
but for now I am going to see how things play out this summer.</span></font=
></span></p>

<p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><fo=
nt style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">&nbsp;Ok after all the above I was still =
not satisfied with
watching the temperature gauge increase while at idle or in stop and go
traffic.<span>&nbsp; </span>Goal was to keep the
temperature at ALL times between 180 and 190 degrees whether driving or at
idle.</span></font></span></p>

<p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><fo=
nt style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">&nbsp;The following changes have been mad=
e since the above
changes 1-13 after trial period of 6 months or so.</span></font></span></p>

<p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><fo=
nt style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">&nbsp;</span></font></span><span class=3D=
"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"=
3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">The Flow Koole=
r water pump started leaking so I
     purchased the SS water pump and installed it and drove for a month or
     so.<span>&nbsp; </span>Install error on the Flow
     Kooler water pump gasket turned out to be the problem.<span>&nbsp; </s=
pan>The SS water pump actually raised idle
     temps 2-3 degrees so I would later reinstall the Flow Kooler with a ne=
w
     gasket.</span></font></span></p><ol style=3D"margin-top:0in" type=3D"1=
" start=3D"1"><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1=
uncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"T=
imes New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Installed a couple of 12=
=E2=80=9D electric pusher fans I
     had in the garage and wired a manual off/on switch under the dash with=
 a
     relay.<span>&nbsp; </span>Not much help or change in
     idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go traffic.</span></font>=
</span></li><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1un=
cz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Tim=
es New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Built and installed a custom=
 fan shroud.<span>&nbsp; </span>Remember I have an oversize Griffin
     radiator.<span>&nbsp; </span>This change resulted in
     idle temp. drop by maybe 2-3 degrees.<span>&nbsp;
     </span>Goal not achieve at this point but getting better.</span></font=
></span></li><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1u=
ncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Ti=
mes New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">I then discussed issue with=
 Flex-a-lite technical
     services hot line (multiple times) regarding their electric pusher fan
     line.</span></font></span></li><ol style=3D"margin-top:0in" type=3D"a"=
 start=3D"1"><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1u=
ncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Ti=
mes New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">The rule of thumb they reco=
mmend:<span>&nbsp; </span>Electric fans of either the pusher or
      puller type should be that the electric fan should cover 70% of the
      radiator surface.<span>&nbsp; </span>Mine came out
      to 69.5% coverage.</span></font></span></li><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1M=
soNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"background-c=
olor: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12.0pt">Small block V-8 engines recommendation is<span>&nbsp; </span>3,00=
0 CFM.</span></font></span></li><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span cl=
ass=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" si=
ze=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Flex - a=
- Lite had only 1 fan that met these
      specifications.</span></font></span></li></ol></ol>

<table style=3D"width:369.75pt; mso-cellspacing:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in=
 0in 0in" class=3D"yahoo-compose-table-card" width=3D"493" cellspacing=3D"0=
" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0">
 <tbody><tr>
  <td style=3D"width:2.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in" width=3D"3">
  <p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal">&nbsp;<font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"></span></font></p>
  </td>
  <td style=3D"width:367.25pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in" width=3D"490" valign=
=3D"top">
  <p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><b><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Arial" colo=
r=3D"black"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;fo=
nt-weight:bold"><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391" r=
el=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><font color=3D"black"><span style=3D"colo=
r:black">FLX-105391</span></font></a></span></font></b><font size=3D"1" fac=
e=3D"Arial" color=3D"black"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Aria=
l;  color:black"><br>
  Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, 16 in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm, Blac=
k,
  20 amps,<span>&nbsp; </span><br>
  (Mfr. #: 239) </span></font></p>
  </td>
 </tr>
</tbody></table>

<ol style=3D"margin-top:0in" type=3D"1" start=3D"4"><ol style=3D"margin-top=
:0in" type=3D"a" start=3D"4"><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=
=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=
=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Also purch=
ased temp probe and relay from Flex =E2=80=93
      a Lite which is adjustable so you can set when the fan comes on.<span=
>&nbsp; </span>Off is 10 degrees from on temp and is
      NOT adjustable.</span></font></span></li></ol></ol>

<table style=3D"width:6.25in; mso-cellspacing:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0=
in 0in" class=3D"yahoo-compose-table-card" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" =
cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0">
 <tbody><tr>
  <td style=3D"width:7.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in" width=3D"10">
  <p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roma=
n"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"><img data-inlineimagemanipulating=3D"tr=
ue" width=3D"10" height=3D"17" border=3D"0"></span></font></p>
  </td>
  <td style=3D"width:148.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in" width=3D"198" valign=
=3D"top">
  <p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><b><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Arial" colo=
r=3D"black"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;fo=
nt-weight:bold"><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-121281" r=
el=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><font color=3D"black"><span style=3D"colo=
r:black">FLX-121281</span></font></a></span></font></b><font size=3D"1" fac=
e=3D"Arial" color=3D"black"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Aria=
l;  color:black"><br>
  Fan Control, Compact, Adjustable, Thread-in Probe, Single Fan, Kit <br>
  (Mfr. #: 33095) </span></font></p>
  </td>
 </tr>
</tbody></table>

<div class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roma=
n"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; e. A</span></span></font></span><span class=3D"=
ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3=
" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">lso purchased t=
emperature probe adapter and
      installed in the upper radiator hose.</span></font></span></div>

<table style=3D"width:6.25in; mso-cellspacing:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0=
in 0in" class=3D"yahoo-compose-table-card" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" =
cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0">
 <tbody><tr>
  <td style=3D"width:7.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in" width=3D"10">
  <p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal">&nbsp;<font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"></span></font></p>
  </td>
  <td style=3D"width:148.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in" width=3D"198" valign=
=3D"top">
  <p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><b><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Arial" colo=
r=3D"black"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;fo=
nt-weight:bold"><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-107078" r=
el=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><font color=3D"black"><span style=3D"colo=
r:black">FLX-107078</span></font></a></span></font></b><font size=3D"1" fac=
e=3D"Arial" color=3D"black"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Aria=
l;  color:black"><br>
  Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2 in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in. NPT
  Ports, Includes One Plug, Each <br>
  (Mfr. #: 32082) </span></font></p>
  </td>
 </tr>
</tbody></table>

<p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.75in"><span class=
=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=
=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">The idea w=
as to
run the stock temp gauge probe<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>into
the adapter and keep my mechanical temperature gauge in place in the manifo=
ld
to verify stock gauge was pretty accurate.<span>&nbsp;
</span>The =C2=BC NPT port would not handle the stock probe and I could not=
 find 1/4
probe with the correct ohms for the stock gauge, so manual temp gauge is st=
ill
in place which I believe is accurate.</span></font></span></p>

<p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><fo=
nt style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;f.<span>&nbsp; </span>Goal still not a=
chieved</span></font></span></p>

<ol style=3D"margin-top:0in" type=3D"1" start=3D"5"><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac=
1MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:list .5i=
n"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"background-color: i=
nherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D"black"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext">Flex - a - Lite then offered the
     following advice =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9C</span></font></span>You typically=
 only need one or
     the other. If you have a mechanical fan and just want extra cooling in
     stop and go traffic, I suggest you use a much smaller electric fan. Bu=
t
     using both a mechanical and this bigger electric fan will probably cau=
se
     some disruption.=E2=80=9D<span>&nbsp; </span>The two smaller
     electric fans I used did not work in my case, so advice about smaller
     electric fan in conjunction with mechanical water pump fan did not wor=
k in
     my particular car.</li></ol>

<p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">&nbsp;</span></font><font size=3D"3" face=
=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D"black"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;      =
color:black">Plan =E2=80=A6. Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump with ne=
w
      gasket.</span></font></p><ol style=3D"margin-top:0in" type=3D"1" star=
t=3D"5"><ol style=3D"margin-top:0in" type=3D"a" start=3D"1"><li class=3D"yd=
pc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D"blac=
k"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;      color:black">Removed the mechanica=
l fan from the water pump and the 1=E2=80=9D
      spacer.<span>&nbsp; </span>Finally success!<span>&nbsp; </span>Temp s=
tays between 176 and 190 at ALL
      times regardless of ambient temperature and traffic conditions. So, i=
n my
      case, the mechanical fan in conjunction with the electric fan was cau=
sing
      air flow disruption.</span></font></li><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNor=
mal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D"black"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;      color:black"><span>&nbsp;</span>The temp at spee=
d
      above 35 mph, the car runs around 176 degrees with 160 degree thermos=
tat
      in temps 90 degrees and less.<span>&nbsp; About 183 in temperatures a=
bove 90, so not a issue. </span>I
      might try out the 180 degree thermostat at some point, 170 if I could
      find one might be optimum for my car.<span>&nbsp;
      </span>The only down side for me is the electric fan is noisy when
      running and volts on volt gauge drops around =C2=BD - =C2=BE- volt wh=
en the fan
      comes on.. The battery volts dropping are due to fan drawing 20 amps.=
 This
      has not been a issue with lights on or off. I have a alternator and n=
ot
      the generator so with generator cars, this might be an issue.<span>&n=
bsp; </span>Now I cannot hear the electric fan <b><span style=3D"font-weigh=
t:bold">at all</span></b> inside the car but outside, it
      is noisy when running.<span>&nbsp; </span>Headers,
      2.25" exhaust pipes with Flow Master series 40 mufflers.<span>&nbsp; =
</span>I wonder why I cannot hear fan
      running.</span></font></li></ol></ol>

<p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
 color=3D"black"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&nbsp;</span>=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">So you see I have tried almost all recomme=
nded
suggestions except lower shroud addition and air dam to direct airflow.</sp=
an></font></p>

<p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
 color=3D"black"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&nbsp;Every c=
ar reacts differently to changes
and you have to keep trying different approaches that might work for your c=
ar
and temperature\humidity of the area you reside.</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
 color=3D"black"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&nbsp;What ch=
anges I have made to me that had
the biggest result and what would I try again in what order to minimize cos=
t,
effort and work involved.</span></font></p>

<div class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><font=
 size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D"black"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:12.0pt;color:black">Yahoo formatting again. <br></span></font></div><div=
 class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" c=
olor=3D"black"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Test
     temp gauge and sender to ensure reading properly.</span></font></div><=
ol style=3D"margin-top:0in" type=3D"1" start=3D"1"><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1=
MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;tab-stops:list .5in=
"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D"black"><span style=3D"=
font-size:12.0pt">Ensure
     radiator in good working order.</span></font></li><li class=3D"ydpc0f6=
8ac1MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;tab-stops:list =
.5in"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D"black"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Change
     thermostat from 180 to 170 then 160.</span></font></li><li class=3D"yd=
pc0f68ac1MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;tab-stops:=
list .5in"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D"black"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Install
     horn block off plates, minimal cost and about 1 hour to install.</span=
></font></li><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-li=
st:l1 level1 lfo3;tab-stops:list .5in"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New R=
oman" color=3D"black"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Fan
     shroud if you do not have one, 2-3 degrees improvement in my case, cus=
tom
     made.<span>&nbsp; </span>Possible making of the lower
     portion of the shroud as well, which I have not done.</span></font></l=
i><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l1 level=
1 lfo3;tab-stops:list .5in"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font sty=
le=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" color=
=3D"black"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext">Undersize wate=
r pump pulley and
     at same time, try a different mechanical fan and ensure fan is 1=E2=80=
=9D from
     radiator.</span></font></span></li><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" =
style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;tab-stops:list .5in"><span cla=
ss=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" siz=
e=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D"black"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
2.0pt;color:windowtext">Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680,
     </span></font></span>2-3 degrees improvement in my case</li><li class=
=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;tab-=
stops:list .5in"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font style=3D"backg=
round-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D"black">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext">New Griffin radiator.<spa=
n>&nbsp; </span>They sell a package for the Tiger with
     radiator, electric fan and shroud.<span>&nbsp;
     </span>Remember my radiator is a custom oversize radiator install by
     previous owner and the stock Griffin radiator or package would not wor=
k in
     my case but I have installed a new custom Griffin radiator.</span></fo=
nt></span></li><li class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-=
list:l1 level1 lfo3;tab-stops:list .5in"><span class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrp=
vf"><font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New=
 Roman" color=3D"black"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext">R=
emove mechanical fan and
     install electric pusher fan that covers 70% of your radiator surface <=
b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">and </span></b>moves 3,000 cfm=E2=80=99s=
 as recommended
     for small block V-8 motors. Items 8 and 9 could be in reverse order an=
d
     step 9 will not necessary if you purchase the Griffin Tiger package, y=
our
     call.</span></font></span></li></ol>

<p class=3D"ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
 color=3D"black"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&nbsp;So you =
see I have tried almost all
recommended suggestions except lower shroud addition and air dam to direct =
air
flow and have finally met my goal of keeping the temperature between 180 to=
 190
degrees in all driving conditions.<span>&nbsp; </span>I
hope my trials and findings will help you moving forward.&nbsp; Any questio=
ns, please ask.<br></span></font></p>

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nt style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">&nbsp;Regards</span></font></span></p>

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nt style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
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sp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
div>On Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown &lt;[email-masked]&gt; w=
rote:</div><br class=3D"ydp13ded387yiv1795206936Apple-interchange-newline">=
<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for all of the replies.&nbsp; I have a mostly =
stock engine (with Edelbrock intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator.&nbsp; I=
 have a temperature gauge mounted on the intake and the engine seems to run=
 a little over 200 at idle but I haven't had any problems while driving the=
 car.&nbsp; My problem right now is that I took the car out one afternoon w=
hen the temperature was over 100 degrees and when I pulled into the garage =
and shut the engine off it puked some water onto the floor.&nbsp; The temp =
gauge was showing around 250 degrees at that point.&nbsp;&nbsp;<div><br></d=
iv><div>I already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some=
 horn opening covers today.&nbsp; I will also look at blocking off the area=
 below the radiator.&nbsp; I have read all of the articles that people have=
 referred to and I believe I have an airflow problem at low speeds.&nbsp; S=
o I was just looking for pusher fan recommendations at this point.&nbsp; &n=
bsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The best advice is to probably not drive in 1=
00+ degree weather.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Joe Brown</d=
iv></div><br><div class=3D"ydp13ded387yiv1795206936gmail_quote"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"ydp13ded387yiv1795206936gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at =
8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox=
.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydp13ded387yiv179520=
6936gmail_quote"><div>I made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exi=
st for the stock tiger, fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle a=
nd the air comes through the radiator down towards the ground and circles b=
ack through the radiator again. So essentially you're just recycling hot ai=
r from your own radiator.&nbsp; It works.&nbsp;<br><div><br><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><div>On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">owain.lloyd@g=
mail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family=
: Times-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; lette=
r-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: nor=
mal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-style: =
solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;">I think michael hit the nail o=
n the head.&nbsp; first need to know is it overheating when stationary / mo=
ving slowly or at speed?<div><br></div><div>a pusher fan will only help at =
very low speed or when stopped.&nbsp; and spal is the go to brand.&nbsp; &n=
bsp;still need the horn holes and gap between cross member and rad blocked.=
&nbsp; cardboard and zip ties does the trick quickly and can be replaced wi=
th a more permanent&nbsp;solution later if you want.&nbsp; also need a fan =
shroud.<div><br></div><div>personally i've never needed the electric pusher=
 fan because i have a small 13" flex fan on the water pump pulley.&nbsp; th=
at creates enough pull through the radiator at idle.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>if its&nbsp;overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another problem e=
ntirely and there are a variety&nbsp;of other things to check.</div></div><=
div><br></div><div>in my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain co=
nditions&nbsp;(slowing down after running fast in really high ambient temps=
 above a particular altitude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem=
.&nbsp; there are a bunch of things i could do there, most importantly a ca=
rb heat shield, but i've&nbsp;only suffered from it once.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>one thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling issues in th=
e tiger over the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hose.&n=
bsp; at least you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with t=
hermostat or water pump issues and if you're used to how it should look, ev=
en how blocked the radiator is.</div><div><br></div></div><br style=3D"font=
-family: Times-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400=
; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-spa=
ce: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-=
style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;"><div style=3D"font-fami=
ly: Times-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; let=
ter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: n=
ormal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-style=
: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;" class=3D"ydp13ded387yiv17952=
06936gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydp13ded387yiv1795206936gmail_a=
ttr">On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers=
@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=
=3D"ydp13ded387yiv1795206936gmail_quote"><div><font size=3D"4">I=E2=80=99ve=
 been reading&nbsp;about cooling issues with tigers for more that a decade =
(much less than some reading this) blocking horn holes, pusher fans, and sh=
rouds etc etc. Entire studies have been done on&nbsp;this issue. Just check=
 STOA, CAT or any club site. All good reads! I think the first place to sta=
rt is&nbsp;knowing what the actual&nbsp;engine team really is. We all know =
that the original temp guage can be off. The other thing is: as a dyed in t=
he wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal engine temp. But, Ford engines=
 can get to 195-200 degrees easily and that is not&nbsp;necessarily a bad t=
hing. Yes, I put a pusher in mine only because I had one. I=E2=80=99m not r=
eally sure is does&nbsp;anything. My&nbsp;original guage can show 225-230 o=
n &nbsp;a hot day (humidity plays a bitg role) but never has pucked out flu=
id. The design of the should is an&nbsp;issue. It lets hot air from the eng=
ine compartment to get under the radiator. Many, many, =E2=80=98fixes=E2=80=
=99 that can be&nbsp;done. However, on a hot low humidity day.. well good l=
uck. JMO</font><div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Jul 18, 2023=
, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" r=
el=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</di=
v><br><div><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-sty=
le: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; tex=
t-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-=
line: none; text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcol=
or; float: none; display: inline;">The article includes several suggestions=
.</span><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: =
normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-tr=
ansform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line=
: none; text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;"=
><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-styl=
e: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text=
-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-l=
ine: none; text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolo=
r;">One of them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan shroud at t=
he bottom.</div><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font=
-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px;=
 text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decorat=
ion-line: none; text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: curren=
tcolor;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; f=
ont-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0=
px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-deco=
ration-line: none; text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: cur=
rentcolor;">A list member offered a piece he fabricated.</div><div style=3D=
"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-weight: =
400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-=
space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decorati=
on-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;"><br></div><div style=
=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-weigh=
t: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; whi=
te-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decor=
ation-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;">I obtained one an=
d here are a couple of pictures. I hope to fit it later this year.</div><di=
v style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; fon=
t-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: no=
ne; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; tex=
t-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;"><br></div>=
<div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:=
 none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; =
text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;">Even a =
few degrees of cooling will be worth the effort.</div><div style=3D"font-fa=
mily: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; let=
ter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: n=
ormal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-style=
: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;"><br></div><div style=3D"font=
-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space=
: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-st=
yle: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;">Allan Ballard</div><div s=
tyle=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-w=
eight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;=
 white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-d=
ecoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;">Mk1a Tiger</d=
iv><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: norma=
l; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transfo=
rm: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: non=
e; text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;"><br>=
</div><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: no=
rmal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-tran=
sform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: =
none; text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;"><=
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b0811">&lt;image0.jpeg&gt;</span><span id=3D"ydp13ded387yiv1795206936m_8164=
983089506367030cid:1896cb123c143c689202">&lt;image1.jpeg&gt;</span><br><br>=
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type=3D"cite">On Jul 18, 2023, at 10:57 PM, Jay Laifman &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">jay.laifman@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">Have you looked at this cooling =
suggestions? &nbsp;<a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifman=
Valance/pt-SteveLaifmanValance1.asp" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanValance1.a=
sp</a><div><br></div><div>It works great in Southern California heat.</div>=
</div><br><div class=3D"ydp13ded387yiv1795206936gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"ydp13ded387yiv1795206936gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:4=
2=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"=
nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydp13ded387yiv1795206936gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">My Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in Texa=
s.&nbsp; I've read through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I wi=
ll make some of the suggested modifications.&nbsp; They listed two differen=
t pusher electric fans in the article but both of them are no longer availa=
ble.<div><br></div><div>So, has anybody recently installed a pusher fan?&nb=
sp; If so, what part numbers?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Jo=
e Brown</div></div>_______________________________________________<br><br><=
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As I was reading your "journey" when you got to the Flex-a-Lite fan 
(initial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people seem to 
have success with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a particular Derale 
fan.  I can see where a pusher fan might impede airflow of a mechanical 
puller fan but not the other way where a puller fan impedes the flow of 
a pusher fan. That said given the "Flex" aspect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I 
wonder if it creates a "wall of wind" and was causing the overheating 
issue. Without smoke to see the flow of air movement I'm always baffled 
by things that blow over - and those that don't, leaves that deposit in 
one area of the yard - and not another. So, whatever the flex fan was 
doing it seems germane to the itself as others have not had the same 
issue with the recommended fans and a pusher fan. I won't ask if the fan 
was installed backwards (you seen way smarter than that) but does the 
possibility exist that the fan design was for counter rotation? With 
serpentine belts in cars these days the rotation of the water pump is 
often opposite of earlier engines of the same design. The good news is 
that you found a solution to your problem. Enjoy the ride.

On 7/20/2023 7:47 AM, Joel Martin via Tigers wrote:
>
> Tiger Running hot – Shotgun Approach after time of trying baby steps.
>
> After about a year of struggling with car running hot at idle with the 
> hood down, Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I took drastic steps.I 
> have been driving the car during the last year only on back roads with 
> not much chance of traffic lights and traffic.I live in rural NC 
> outside of Pinehurst.
>
> Bloody yahoo mail formatting ruined numbering copied from MS Word, so 
> please ignore.
>        1. Purchased and installed Sunbeam Specialties (SS) gloss black 
> radiator overflow tank, missing from car.
>        2. Purchased and installed overflow tank straps from Alexander 
> [email-masked] which are powder coated, missing from car.
>
>  1. Purchased and installed undersize water pump pulley from Robert
>     Straghan<[email-masked]> scuffed, primed and painted semi
>     gloss black
>  2. Purchased and installed horn hole block plates from Don
>     Lutjen<[email-masked]> scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss
>     black.
>  3. Purchased and installed new taller custom aluminum cross flow side
>     tank radiator from Griffin Radiator.
>  4. Purchased and installed new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680
>     painted Ford dark blue to match engine replacing SS water pump,
>     pressed hub to line up.
>  5. Modified the mechanical fan spacer so that front of fan is 1” from
>     radiator.
>  6. Mechanical fan remains Flex-a-Lite 14” nylon 6 blade fan.
>  7. Purchased and installed new SS lower radiator and overflow to
>     radiator hoses.
>  8. New top radiator hose from local source, as SS hose would not fit
>     taller radiator.
>  9. New fan belt.
> 10. Purchased and refurbished original Tiger fan shroud which would
>     not fit as I did not want to cut a original shroud top mounting
>     bracket to fit my taller radiator.Striped, primed and painted used
>     shroud semi gloss black – sitting on shelf.
> 11. Installed 160 degree thermostat from 180.Could not find 170
>     degree.If anyone has a part number and supplier for a 170-degree
>     thermostat, please forward.
>
> So at this point I do not have a fan shroud – unless make up a 
> custom.Other changes could make is front air dam and block front cross 
> member to bottom of radiator spacing but for now I am going to see how 
> things play out this summer.
>
>  Ok after all the above I was still not satisfied with watching the 
> temperature gauge increase while at idle or in stop and go 
> traffic.Goal was to keep the temperature at ALL times between 180 and 
> 190 degrees whether driving or at idle.
>
>  The following changes have been made since the above changes 1-13 
> after trial period of 6 months or so.
>
> The Flow Kooler water pump started leaking so I purchased the SS water 
> pump and installed it and drove for a month or so.Install error on the 
> Flow Kooler water pump gasket turned out to be the problem.The SS 
> water pump actually raised idle temps 2-3 degrees so I would later 
> reinstall the Flow Kooler with a new gasket.
>
>  1. Installed a couple of 12” electric pusher fans I had in the garage
>     and wired a manual off/on switch under the dash with a relay.Not
>     much help or change in idle temperature while at stoplights or
>     stop\go traffic.
>  2. Built and installed a custom fan shroud.Remember I have an
>     oversize Griffin radiator.This change resulted in idle temp. drop
>     by maybe 2-3 degrees.Goal not achieve at this point but getting
>     better.
>  3. I then discussed issue with Flex-a-lite technical services hot
>     line (multiple times) regarding their electric pusher fan line.
>      1. The rule of thumb they recommend:Electric fans of either the
>         pusher or puller type should be that the electric fan should
>         cover 70% of the radiator surface.Mine came out to 69.5% coverage.
>      2. Small block V-8 engines recommendation is3,000 CFM.
>      3. Flex - a- Lite had only 1 fan that met these specifications.
>
> 	
>
> *FLX-105391 <https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391>*
> Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, 16 in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm, 
> Black, 20 amps,
> (Mfr. #: 239)
>
>      4. Also purchased temp probe and relay from Flex – a Lite which
>         is adjustable so you can set when the fan comes on.Off is 10
>         degrees from on temp and is NOT adjustable.
>
> 	
>
> *FLX-121281 <https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-121281>*
> Fan Control, Compact, Adjustable, Thread-in Probe, Single Fan, Kit
> (Mfr. #: 33095)
>
> e. Also purchased temperature probe adapter and installed in the upper 
> radiator hose.
>
> 	
>
> *FLX-107078 <https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-107078>*
> Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2 in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in. 
> NPT Ports, Includes One Plug, Each
> (Mfr. #: 32082)
>
> The idea was to run the stock temp gauge probeinto the adapter and 
> keep my mechanical temperature gauge in place in the manifold to 
> verify stock gauge was pretty accurate.The ¼ NPT port would not handle 
> the stock probe and I could not find 1/4 probe with the correct ohms 
> for the stock gauge, so manual temp gauge is still in place which I 
> believe is accurate.
>
>              f.Goal still not achieved
>
>  5. Flex - a - Lite then offered the following advice – “You typically
>     only need one or the other. If you have a mechanical fan and just
>     want extra cooling in stop and go traffic, I suggest you use a
>     much smaller electric fan. But using both a mechanical and this
>     bigger electric fan will probably cause some disruption.”The two
>     smaller electric fans I used did not work in my case, so advice
>     about smaller electric fan in conjunction with mechanical water
>     pump fan did not work in my particular car.
>
> Plan …. Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump with new gasket.
>
>      1. Removed the mechanical fan from the water pump and the 1”
>         spacer.Finally success!Temp stays between 176 and 190 at ALL
>         times regardless of ambient temperature and traffic
>         conditions. So, in my case, the mechanical fan in conjunction
>         with the electric fan was causing air flow disruption.
>      2. The temp at speed above 35 mph, the car runs around 176
>         degrees with 160 degree thermostat in temps 90 degrees and
>         less.  About 183 in temperatures above 90, so not a issue. I
>         might try out the 180 degree thermostat at some point, 170 if
>         I could find one might be optimum for my car.The only down
>         side for me is the electric fan is noisy when running and
>         volts on volt gauge drops around ½ - ¾- volt when the fan
>         comes on.. The battery volts dropping are due to fan drawing
>         20 amps. This has not been a issue with lights on or off. I
>         have a alternator and not the generator so with generator
>         cars, this might be an issue.Now I cannot hear the electric
>         fan *at all* inside the car but outside, it is noisy when
>         running.Headers, 2.25" exhaust pipes with Flow Master series
>         40 mufflers.I wonder why I cannot hear fan running.
>
> So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except 
> lower shroud addition and air dam to direct airflow.
>
>  Every car reacts differently to changes and you have to keep trying 
> different approaches that might work for your car and 
> temperature\humidity of the area you reside.
>
>  What changes I have made to me that had the biggest result and what 
> would I try again in what order to minimize cost, effort and work 
> involved.
>
> Yahoo formatting again.
> Test temp gauge and sender to ensure reading properly.
>
>  1. Ensure radiator in good working order.
>  2. Change thermostat from 180 to 170 then 160.
>  3. Install horn block off plates, minimal cost and about 1 hour to
>     install.
>  4. Fan shroud if you do not have one, 2-3 degrees improvement in my
>     case, custom made.Possible making of the lower portion of the
>     shroud as well, which I have not done.
>  5. Undersize water pump pulley and at same time, try a different
>     mechanical fan and ensure fan is 1” from radiator.
>  6. Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680, 2-3 degrees improvement in my case
>  7. New Griffin radiator.They sell a package for the Tiger with
>     radiator, electric fan and shroud.Remember my radiator is a custom
>     oversize radiator install by previous owner and the stock Griffin
>     radiator or package would not work in my case but I have installed
>     a new custom Griffin radiator.
>  8. Remove mechanical fan and install electric pusher fan that covers
>     70% of your radiator surface *and *moves 3,000 cfm’s as
>     recommended for small block V-8 motors. Items 8 and 9 could be in
>     reverse order and step 9 will not necessary if you purchase the
>     Griffin Tiger package, your call.
>
>  So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except 
> lower shroud addition and air dam to direct air flow and have finally 
> met my goal of keeping the temperature between 180 to 190 degrees in 
> all driving conditions.I hope my trials and findings will help you 
> moving forward.  Any questions, please ask.
>
>  Regards
>
> Joel Martin
>
> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 09:09:34 PM EDT, 
> [email-masked] <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> [email-masked]
>
> [email-masked]
>
>   1. Re: Cooling Fan (LARRY PAULICK)
> Joe, I did an article for Tigers United, that describes with 
> photographs what I did for the full fans shroud.
>
> TigersUnited.com 
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
> tigersunited.com 
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
> 	<http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> BTW, Tigers United has a lot of great articles covering the variety of 
> subjects. You might want to check it out.
>
>
>
>> Thanks for all of the replies. I have a mostly stock engine (with 
>> Edelbrock intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator.  I have a 
>> temperature gauge mounted on the intake and the engine seems to run a 
>> little over 200 at idle but I haven't had any problems while driving 
>> the car.  My problem right now is that I took the car out one 
>> afternoon when the temperature was over 100 degrees and when I pulled 
>> into the garage and shut the engine off it puked some water onto the 
>> floor.  The temp gauge was showing around 250 degrees at that point.
>>
>> I already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some 
>> horn opening covers today.  I will also look at blocking off the area 
>> below the radiator. I have read all of the articles that people have 
>> referred to and I believe I have an airflow problem at low speeds.  
>> So I was just looking for pusher fan recommendations at this point.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Joe Brown
>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33 AM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers 
>> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>>     I made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the
>>     stock tiger, fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle
>>     and the air comes through the radiator down towards the ground
>>     and circles back through the radiator again. So essentially
>>     you're just recycling hot air from your own radiator.  It works.
>>
>>>     I think michael hit the nail on the head.  first need to know is
>>>     it overheating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed?
>>>
>>>     a pusher fan will only help at very low speed or when stopped. 
>>>     and spal is the go to brand.   still need the horn holes and gap
>>>     between cross member and rad blocked. cardboard and zip ties
>>>     does the trick quickly and can be replaced with a more
>>>     permanent solution later if you want.  also need a fan shroud.
>>>
>>>     personally i've never needed the electric pusher fan because i
>>>     have a small 13" flex fan on the water pump pulley.  that
>>>     creates enough pull through the radiator at idle.
>>>
>>>     if its overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another
>>>     problem entirely and there are a variety of other things to check.
>>>
>>>     in my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain
>>>     conditions (slowing down after running fast in really high
>>>     ambient temps above a particular altitude) rather than coolant
>>>     temp which is the problem.  there are a bunch of things i could
>>>     do there, most importantly a carb heat shield, but i've only
>>>     suffered from it once.
>>>
>>>     one thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling issues in
>>>     the tiger over the years is having a glass gano filter in the
>>>     rad top hose. at least you can see how the coolant is
>>>     circulating which helps with thermostat or water pump issues and
>>>     if you're used to how it should look, even how blocked the
>>>     radiator is.
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41 AM Jim B via Tigers
>>>     <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>
>>>         I’ve been reading about cooling issues with tigers for more
>>>         that a decade (much less than some reading this) blocking
>>>         horn holes, pusher fans, and shrouds etc etc. Entire studies
>>>         have been done on this issue. Just check STOA, CAT or any
>>>         club site. All good reads! I think the first place to start
>>>         is knowing what the actual engine team really is. We all
>>>         know that the original temp guage can be off. The other
>>>         thing is: as a dyed in the wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the
>>>         optimal engine temp. But, Ford engines can get to 195-200
>>>         degrees easily and that is not necessarily a bad thing. Yes,
>>>         I put a pusher in mine only because I had one. I’m not
>>>         really sure is does anything. My original guage can show
>>>         225-230 on  a hot day (humidity plays a bitg role) but never
>>>         has pucked out fluid. The design of the should is an issue.
>>>         It lets hot air from the engine compartment to get under the
>>>         radiator. Many, many, ‘fixes’ that can be done. However, on
>>>         a hot low humidity day.. well good luck. JMO
>>>
>>>>         One of them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan
>>>>         shroud at the bottom.
>>>>
>>>>         I obtained one and here are a couple of pictures. I hope to
>>>>         fit it later this year.
>>>>
>>>>         Allan Ballard
>>>>         Mk1a Tiger
>>>>>         Have you looked at this cooling suggestions?
>>>>>         http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanValance1.asp
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:42 PM Joe Brown
>>>>>         <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>             My Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in
>>>>>             Texas. I've read through the article by Tiger Tom and
>>>>>             Chuck King and I will make some of the suggested
>>>>>             modifications. They listed two different pusher
>>>>>             electric fans in the article but both of them are no
>>>>>             longer available.
>>>>>
>>>>>             So, has anybody recently installed a pusher fan? If
>>>>>             so, what part numbers?
>>>>>
>>>>>             Thanks,
>>>>>             Joe Brown
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    <p>As I was reading your "journey" when you got to the Flex-a-Lite
      fan (initial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people
      seem to have success with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a
      particular Derale fan.  I can see where a pusher fan might impede
      airflow of a mechanical puller fan but not the other way where a
      puller fan impedes the flow of a pusher fan. That said given the
      "Flex" aspect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder if it creates a
      "wall of wind" and was causing the overheating issue. Without
      smoke to see the flow of air movement I'm always baffled by things
      that blow over - and those that don't, leaves that deposit in one
      area of the yard - and not another. So, whatever the flex fan was
      doing it seems germane to the itself as others have not had the
      same issue with the recommended fans and a pusher fan. I won't ask
      if the fan was installed backwards (you seen way smarter than
      that) but does the possibility exist that the fan design was for
      counter rotation? With serpentine belts in cars these days the
      rotation of the water pump is often opposite of earlier engines of
      the same design. The good news is that you found a solution to
      your problem. Enjoy the ride.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/20/2023 7:47 AM, Joel Martin via
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            <p class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times
                New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Tiger Running
                  hot – Shotgun Approach after time of trying baby
                  steps.</span></font></p>
            <p class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times
                New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">After about a
                  year of struggling with car running hot at idle with
                  the
                  hood down, Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I took
                  drastic steps.<span>  </span>I have been driving the
                  car during the last year
                  only on back roads with not much chance of traffic
                  lights and traffic.<span>  </span>I live in rural NC
                  outside of Pinehurst.</span></font></p>
            <div class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" dir="ltr"
              data-setdir="false"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font><font size="3"
                face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">    
                  Bloody yahoo mail formatting ruined numbering copied
                  from MS Word, so please ignore.  <br>
                </span></font></div>
            <div class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times
                New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">       1.
                  Purchased and installed Sunbeam Specialties (SS) gloss
                  black radiator overflow tank, missing from car.</span></font></div>
            <div class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" dir="ltr"
              data-setdir="false"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt">       2. Purchased and
                  installed overflow tank straps from <span
                    class="ydpc0f68ac1dfrtlirtlidzssg">Alexander Washick</span><span
                    class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"> <a
                      href="mailto:[email-masked]" rel="nofollow"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>
                    which are powder coated</span>, missing from car.<span
                    class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"></span></span></font></div>
            <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="1">
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">Purchased and installed
                      undersize water pump pulley from </span></font></span><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1dfrtlirtlidzssg">Robert Straghan</span><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
                  scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black</span></li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">Purchased and installed
                      horn hole block plates from </span></font></span><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1dfrtlirtlidzssg">Don Lutjen</span><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
                  scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black.</span></li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">Purchased and installed
                      new taller custom aluminum cross flow side tank
                      radiator from Griffin Radiator.</span></font></span></li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">Purchased and installed
                      new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painted Ford
                      dark blue to match engine replacing SS water pump,
                      pressed hub to line up.</span></font></span></li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">Modified the mechanical
                      fan spacer so that front of fan is 1” from
                      radiator.</span></font></span></li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">Mechanical fan remains
                      Flex-a-Lite 14” nylon 6 blade fan.</span></font></span></li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">Purchased and installed
                      new SS lower radiator and overflow to radiator
                      hoses.</span></font></span></li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">New top radiator hose
                      from local source, as SS hose would not fit taller
                      radiator.</span></font></span></li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">New fan belt.</span></font></span></li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">Purchased and refurbished
                      original Tiger fan shroud which would not fit as I
                      did not want to cut a original shroud top mounting
                      bracket to fit my taller radiator.<span>  </span>Striped,
                      primed and painted used shroud semi gloss black –
                      sitting on shelf.</span></font></span></li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">Installed 160 degree
                      thermostat from 180.<span>  </span>Could not find
                      170 degree.<span>  </span>If anyone has a part
                      number and supplier for a 170-degree thermostat,
                      please forward.</span></font></span></li>
            </ol>
            <p class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                  style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                  face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">So
                    at this point I do not have a fan shroud – unless
                    make up a custom.<span>  </span>Other changes could
                    make is front air dam and block front cross member
                    to bottom of radiator spacing
                    but for now I am going to see how things play out
                    this summer.</span></font></span></p>
            <p class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                  style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                  face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> Ok
                    after all the above I was still not satisfied with
                    watching the temperature gauge increase while at
                    idle or in stop and go
                    traffic.<span>  </span>Goal was to keep the
                    temperature at ALL times between 180 and 190 degrees
                    whether driving or at
                    idle.</span></font></span></p>
            <p class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                  style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                  face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> The
                    following changes have been made since the above
                    changes 1-13 after trial period of 6 months or so.</span></font></span></p>
            <p class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                  style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                  face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></span><span
                class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                  style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                  face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The
                    Flow Kooler water pump started leaking so I
                    purchased the SS water pump and installed it and
                    drove for a month or so.<span>  </span>Install
                    error on the Flow Kooler water pump gasket turned
                    out to be the problem.<span>  </span>The SS water
                    pump actually raised idle temps 2-3 degrees so I
                    would later reinstall the Flow Kooler with a new
                    gasket.</span></font></span></p>
            <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="1">
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">Installed a couple of 12”
                      electric pusher fans I had in the garage and wired
                      a manual off/on switch under the dash with a
                      relay.<span>  </span>Not much help or change in
                      idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go
                      traffic.</span></font></span></li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">Built and installed a
                      custom fan shroud.<span>  </span>Remember I have
                      an oversize Griffin radiator.<span>  </span>This
                      change resulted in idle temp. drop by maybe 2-3
                      degrees.<span>  </span>Goal not achieve at this
                      point but getting better.</span></font></span></li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">I then discussed issue
                      with Flex-a-lite technical services hot line
                      (multiple times) regarding their electric pusher
                      fan line.</span></font></span></li>
              <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="a" start="1">
                <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                    class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                      style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                      face="Times New Roman"><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt">The rule of thumb they
                        recommend:<span>  </span>Electric fans of
                        either the pusher or puller type should be that
                        the electric fan should cover 70% of the
                        radiator surface.<span>  </span>Mine came out
                        to 69.5% coverage.</span></font></span></li>
                <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                    class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                      style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                      face="Times New Roman"><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt">Small block V-8 engines
                        recommendation is<span>  </span>3,000 CFM.</span></font></span></li>
                <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                    class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                      style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                      face="Times New Roman"><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt">Flex - a- Lite had only
                        1 fan that met these specifications.</span></font></span></li>
              </ol>
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                    <p class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><b><font size="1"
                          face="Arial" color="black"><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold"><a
href="https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391" rel="nofollow"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><font
                                color="black"><span style="color:black">FLX-105391</span></font></a></span></font></b><font
                        size="1" face="Arial" color="black"><span
                          style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;
                          color:black"><br>
                          Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, 16
                          in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm, Black, 20 amps,<span> 
                          </span><br>
                          (Mfr. #: 239) </span></font></p>
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                <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                    class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                      style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                      face="Times New Roman"><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt">Also purchased temp
                        probe and relay from Flex – a Lite which is
                        adjustable so you can set when the fan comes on.<span> 
                        </span>Off is 10 degrees from on temp and is NOT
                        adjustable.</span></font></span></li>
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                          Fan Control, Compact, Adjustable, Thread-in
                          Probe, Single Fan, Kit <br>
                          (Mfr. #: 33095) </span></font></p>
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                  face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">lso
                    purchased temperature probe adapter and installed in
                    the upper radiator hose.</span></font></span></div>
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                          Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2
                          in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in. NPT Ports, Includes
                          One Plug, Each <br>
                          (Mfr. #: 32082) </span></font></p>
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            <p class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.75in"><span
                class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                  style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                  face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The
                    idea was to
                    run the stock temp gauge probe<span>     </span>into
                    the adapter and keep my mechanical temperature gauge
                    in place in the manifold
                    to verify stock gauge was pretty accurate.<span> 
                    </span>The ¼ NPT port would not handle the stock
                    probe and I could not find 1/4
                    probe with the correct ohms for the stock gauge, so
                    manual temp gauge is still
                    in place which I believe is accurate.</span></font></span></p>
            <p class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span
                class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                  style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                  face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">             f.<span> 
                    </span>Goal still not achieved</span></font></span></p>
            <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="5">
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"
                style="color:black;mso-list:l0 level1
                lfo2;tab-stops:list .5in"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman" color="black"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext">Flex - a
                      - Lite then offered the following advice – “</span></font></span>You
                typically only need one or the other. If you have a
                mechanical fan and just want extra cooling in stop and
                go traffic, I suggest you use a much smaller electric
                fan. But using both a mechanical and this bigger
                electric fan will probably cause some disruption.”<span> 
                </span>The two smaller electric fans I used did not work
                in my case, so advice about smaller electric fan in
                conjunction with mechanical water pump fan did not work
                in my particular car.</li>
            </ol>
            <p class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times
                New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font><font
                size="3" face="Times New Roman" color="black"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Plan ….
                  Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump with new
                  gasket.</span></font></p>
            <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="5">
              <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="a" start="1">
                <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman" color="black"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Removed the
                      mechanical fan from the water pump and the 1”
                      spacer.<span>  </span>Finally success!<span>  </span>Temp
                      stays between 176 and 190 at ALL times regardless
                      of ambient temperature and traffic conditions. So,
                      in my case, the mechanical fan in conjunction with
                      the electric fan was causing air flow disruption.</span></font></li>
                <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman" color="black"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black"><span> </span>The
                      temp at speed above 35 mph, the car runs around
                      176 degrees with 160 degree thermostat in temps 90
                      degrees and less.<span>  About 183 in temperatures
                        above 90, so not a issue. </span>I might try
                      out the 180 degree thermostat at some point, 170
                      if I could find one might be optimum for my car.<span> 
                      </span>The only down side for me is the electric
                      fan is noisy when running and volts on volt gauge
                      drops around ½ - ¾- volt when the fan comes on..
                      The battery volts dropping are due to fan drawing
                      20 amps. This has not been a issue with lights on
                      or off. I have a alternator and not the generator
                      so with generator cars, this might be an issue.<span> 
                      </span>Now I cannot hear the electric fan <b><span
                          style="font-weight:bold">at all</span></b>
                      inside the car but outside, it is noisy when
                      running.<span>  </span>Headers, 2.25" exhaust
                      pipes with Flow Master series 40 mufflers.<span> 
                      </span>I wonder why I cannot hear fan running.</span></font></li>
              </ol>
            </ol>
            <p class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times
                New Roman" color="black"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt">So you see I have tried
                  almost all recommended
                  suggestions except lower shroud addition and air dam
                  to direct airflow.</span></font></p>
            <p class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times
                New Roman" color="black"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> Every car reacts
                  differently to changes
                  and you have to keep trying different approaches that
                  might work for your car
                  and temperature\humidity of the area you reside.</span></font></p>
            <p class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times
                New Roman" color="black"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> What changes I
                  have made to me that had
                  the biggest result and what would I try again in what
                  order to minimize cost,
                  effort and work involved.</span></font></p>
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              data-setdir="false"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"
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                  formatting again. <br>
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            <div class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times
                New Roman" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Test
                  temp gauge and sender to ensure reading properly.</span></font></div>
            <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="1">
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"
                style="color:black;mso-list:l1 level1
                lfo3;tab-stops:list .5in"><font size="3" face="Times New
                  Roman" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Ensure
                    radiator in good working order.</span></font></li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"
                style="color:black;mso-list:l1 level1
                lfo3;tab-stops:list .5in"><font size="3" face="Times New
                  Roman" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Change
                    thermostat from 180 to 170 then 160.</span></font></li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"
                style="color:black;mso-list:l1 level1
                lfo3;tab-stops:list .5in"><font size="3" face="Times New
                  Roman" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Install
                    horn block off plates, minimal cost and about 1 hour
                    to install.</span></font></li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"
                style="color:black;mso-list:l1 level1
                lfo3;tab-stops:list .5in"><font size="3" face="Times New
                  Roman" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Fan
                    shroud if you do not have one, 2-3 degrees
                    improvement in my case, custom made.<span>  </span>Possible
                    making of the lower portion of the shroud as well,
                    which I have not done.</span></font></li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"
                style="color:black;mso-list:l1 level1
                lfo3;tab-stops:list .5in"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman" color="black"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext">Undersize
                      water pump pulley and at same time, try a
                      different mechanical fan and ensure fan is 1” from
                      radiator.</span></font></span></li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"
                style="color:black;mso-list:l1 level1
                lfo3;tab-stops:list .5in"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman" color="black"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext">Flow
                      Kooler water pump BRA-1680, </span></font></span>2-3
                degrees improvement in my case</li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"
                style="color:black;mso-list:l1 level1
                lfo3;tab-stops:list .5in"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman" color="black"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext">New
                      Griffin radiator.<span>  </span>They sell a
                      package for the Tiger with radiator, electric fan
                      and shroud.<span>  </span>Remember my radiator is
                      a custom oversize radiator install by previous
                      owner and the stock Griffin radiator or package
                      would not work in my case but I have installed a
                      new custom Griffin radiator.</span></font></span></li>
              <li class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"
                style="color:black;mso-list:l1 level1
                lfo3;tab-stops:list .5in"><span
                  class="ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><font
                    style="background-color: inherit;" size="3"
                    face="Times New Roman" color="black"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext">Remove
                      mechanical fan and install electric pusher fan
                      that covers 70% of your radiator surface <b><span
                          style="font-weight:bold">and </span></b>moves
                      3,000 cfm’s as recommended for small block V-8
                      motors. Items 8 and 9 could be in reverse order
                      and step 9 will not necessary if you purchase the
                      Griffin Tiger package, your call.</span></font></span></li>
            </ol>
            <p class="ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times
                New Roman" color="black"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> So you see I
                  have tried almost all
                  recommended suggestions except lower shroud addition
                  and air dam to direct air
                  flow and have finally met my goal of keeping the
                  temperature between 180 to 190
                  degrees in all driving conditions.<span>  </span>I
                  hope my trials and findings will help you moving
                  forward.  Any questions, please ask.<br>
                </span></font></p>
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              1. Re: Cooling Fan (LARRY PAULICK)<br>
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                <div>Joe, I did an article for Tigers United, that
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                    <div>BTW, Tigers United has a lot of great articles
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                        <div>On Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown
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                          <div dir="ltr">Thanks for all of the replies. 
                            I have a mostly stock engine (with Edelbrock
                            intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator.  I
                            have a temperature gauge mounted on the
                            intake and the engine seems to run a little
                            over 200 at idle but I haven't had any
                            problems while driving the car.  My problem
                            right now is that I took the car out one
                            afternoon when the temperature was over 100
                            degrees and when I pulled into the garage
                            and shut the engine off it puked some water
                            onto the floor.  The temp gauge was showing
                            around 250 degrees at that point.  
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                            <div>I already have the lower shroud on my
                              radiator and I am making some horn opening
                              covers today.  I will also look at
                              blocking off the area below the radiator. 
                              I have read all of the articles that
                              people have referred to and I believe I
                              have an airflow problem at low speeds.  So
                              I was just looking for pusher fan
                              recommendations at this point.   </div>
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                            <div>The best advice is to probably not
                              drive in 100+ degree weather.</div>
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                            <div>Thanks,</div>
                            <div>Joe Brown</div>
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                              class="ydp13ded387yiv1795206936gmail_attr">On
                              Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33 AM LARRY PAULICK
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                              <div>I made a custom lower fan shroud, as
                                one does not exist for the stock tiger,
                                fan shroud. I did smoke test with the
                                car at idle and the air comes through
                                the radiator down towards the ground and
                                circles back through the radiator again.
                                So essentially you're just recycling hot
                                air from your own radiator.  It works. <br>
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                                    <div>On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM,
                                      Owain Lloyd &lt;<a
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                                      <div dir="ltr" style="font-family:
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                                        text-decoration-style: solid;
                                        text-decoration-color:
                                        currentcolor;">I think michael
                                        hit the nail on the head.  first
                                        need to know is it overheating
                                        when stationary / moving slowly
                                        or at speed?
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                                        <div>a pusher fan will only help
                                          at very low speed or when
                                          stopped.  and spal is the go
                                          to brand.   still need the
                                          horn holes and gap between
                                          cross member and rad blocked. 
                                          cardboard and zip ties does
                                          the trick quickly and can be
                                          replaced with a more
                                          permanent solution later if
                                          you want.  also need a fan
                                          shroud.
                                          <div><br>
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                                          <div>personally i've never
                                            needed the electric pusher
                                            fan because i have a small
                                            13" flex fan on the water
                                            pump pulley.  that creates
                                            enough pull through the
                                            radiator at idle.</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>if its overheating at
                                            more than 30/40mph then its
                                            another problem entirely and
                                            there are a variety of other
                                            things to check.</div>
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                                        <div><br>
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                                        <div>in my case its fuel boiling
                                          in the carb under certain
                                          conditions (slowing down after
                                          running fast in really high
                                          ambient temps above a
                                          particular altitude) rather
                                          than coolant temp which is the
                                          problem.  there are a bunch of
                                          things i could do there, most
                                          importantly a carb heat
                                          shield, but i've only suffered
                                          from it once.</div>
                                        <div><br>
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                                        <div>one thing i've found very
                                          useful for debugging cooling
                                          issues in the tiger over the
                                          years is having a glass gano
                                          filter in the rad top hose. 
                                          at least you can see how the
                                          coolant is circulating which
                                          helps with thermostat or water
                                          pump issues and if you're used
                                          to how it should look, even
                                          how blocked the radiator is.</div>
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                                          Jim B via Tigers &lt;<a
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                                          <div><font size="4">I’ve been
                                              reading about cooling
                                              issues with tigers for
                                              more that a decade (much
                                              less than some reading
                                              this) blocking horn holes,
                                              pusher fans, and shrouds
                                              etc etc. Entire studies
                                              have been done on this
                                              issue. Just check STOA,
                                              CAT or any club site. All
                                              good reads! I think the
                                              first place to start
                                              is knowing what the
                                              actual engine team really
                                              is. We all know that the
                                              original temp guage can be
                                              off. The other thing is:
                                              as a dyed in the wool ford
                                              guy, 185 degrees is the
                                              optimal engine temp. But,
                                              Ford engines can get to
                                              195-200 degrees easily and
                                              that is not necessarily a
                                              bad thing. Yes, I put a
                                              pusher in mine only
                                              because I had one. I’m not
                                              really sure is
                                              does anything. My original
                                              guage can show 225-230 on
                                               a hot day (humidity plays
                                              a bitg role) but never has
                                              pucked out fluid. The
                                              design of the should is
                                              an issue. It lets hot air
                                              from the engine
                                              compartment to get under
                                              the radiator. Many, many,
                                              ‘fixes’ that can be done.
                                              However, on a hot low
                                              humidity day.. well good
                                              luck. JMO</font>
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                                                  <div>On Jul 18, 2023,
                                                    at 8:40 PM, Allan
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                                                      article includes
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                                                      of them is to seal
                                                      the missing
                                                      section of the
                                                      stock fan shroud
                                                      at the bottom.</div>
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                                                      list member
                                                      offered a piece he
                                                      fabricated.</div>
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                                                      obtained one and
                                                      here are a couple
                                                      of pictures. I
                                                      hope to fit it
                                                      later this year.</div>
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                                                      a few degrees of
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                                                        <blockquote
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                                                          Jul 18, 2023,
                                                          at 10:57 PM,
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">Have
                                                          you looked at
                                                          this cooling
                                                          suggestions?  <a
href="http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanValance1.asp"
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                                                          <div>It works
                                                          great in
                                                          Southern
                                                          California
                                                          heat.</div>
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                                                          3:42 PM Joe
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">My
                                                          Tiger can't
                                                          keep up with
                                                          this 100
                                                          degree weather
                                                          in Texas. 
                                                          I've read
                                                          through the
                                                          article by
                                                          Tiger Tom and
                                                          Chuck King and
                                                          I will make
                                                          some of the
                                                          suggested
                                                          modifications. 
                                                          They listed
                                                          two different
                                                          pusher
                                                          electric fans
                                                          in the article
                                                          but both of
                                                          them are no
                                                          longer
                                                          available.
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                                                          <div>So, has
                                                          anybody
                                                          recently
                                                          installed a
                                                          pusher fan? 
                                                          If so, what
                                                          part numbers?</div>
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                                                          <div>Thanks,</div>
                                                          <div>Joe Brown</div>
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From: M Lafayette via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2023 18:12:50 +0000 (UTC)

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In speaking to a rep. from a fan company years ago, he mentioned that a "pu=
ller" elect. fan would cool either 2 or 3 times (can't remember the number)=
 as well as a "pusher" elect. fan.=C2=A0 Makes sense since modern cars seem=
s to use puller elctric's.=C2=A0 Has anyone tried just one good elect. pull=
er on a Tiger?
Mark
In a message dated 7/20/2023 1:58:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tigers@autox=
.team.net writes:=C2=A0

As I was reading your "journey" when you got to the Flex-a-Lite fan (initia=
l item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people seem to have success =
with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a particular Derale fan.=C2=A0 I ca=
n see where a pusher fan might impede airflow of a mechanical puller fan bu=
t not the other way where a puller fan impedes the flow of a pusher fan. Th=
at said given the "Flex" aspect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder if it creat=
es a "wall of wind" and was causing the overheating issue. Without smoke to=
 see the flow of air movement I'm always baffled by things that blow over -=
 and those that don't, leaves that deposit in one area of the yard - and no=
t another. So, whatever the flex fan was doing it seems germane to the itse=
lf as others have not had the same issue with the recommended fans and a pu=
sher fan. I won't ask if the fan was installed backwards (you seen way smar=
ter than that) but does the possibility exist that the fan design was for c=
ounter rotation? With serpentine belts in cars these days the rotation of t=
he water pump is often opposite of earlier engines of the same design. The =
good news is that you found a solution to your problem. Enjoy the ride.
On 7/20/2023 7:47 AM, Joel Martin via Tigers wrote:

After about a year of struggling with car running hot at idle with the hood=
 down, Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I took drastic steps.=C2=A0 I ha=
ve been driving the car during the last year only on back roads with not mu=
ch chance of traffic lights and traffic.=C2=A0 I live in rural NC outside o=
f Pinehurst.

So at this point I do not have a fan shroud =E2=80=93 unless make up a cust=
om.=C2=A0 Other changes could make is front air dam and block front cross m=
ember to bottom of radiator spacing but for now I am going to see how thing=
s play out this summer.

=C2=A0Ok after all the above I was still not satisfied with watching the te=
mperature gauge increase while at idle or in stop and go traffic.=C2=A0 Goa=
l was to keep the temperature at ALL times between 180 and 190 degrees whet=
her driving or at idle.

=C2=A0The following changes have been made since the above changes 1-13 aft=
er trial period of 6 months or so.

|=20
=C2=A0
 |=20
FLX-105391
Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, 16 in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm, Black,=
 20 amps,=C2=A0=20
(Mfr. #: 239)=20
 |

  =20
  =20

|=20

 |=20
FLX-121281

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 e. Also purcha=
sed temperature probe adapter and installed in the upper radiator hose.
|=20
=C2=A0
 |=20
FLX-107078
Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2 in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in. NPT P=
orts, Includes One Plug, Each=20
(Mfr. #: 32082)=20
 |

The idea was to run the stock temp gauge probe=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 into=
 the adapter and keep my mechanical temperature gauge in place in the manif=
old to verify stock gauge was pretty accurate.=C2=A0 The =C2=BC NPT port wo=
uld not handle the stock probe and I could not find 1/4 probe with the corr=
ect ohms for the stock gauge, so manual temp gauge is still in place which =
I believe is accurate.

=C2=A0So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except low=
er shroud addition and air dam to direct airflow.

=C2=A0Every car reacts differently to changes and you have to keep trying d=
ifferent approaches that might work for your car and temperature\humidity o=
f the area you reside.

=C2=A0What changes I have made to me that had the biggest result and what w=
ould I try again in what order to minimize cost, effort and work involved.

=C2=A0So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except low=
er shroud addition and air dam to direct air flow and have finally met my g=
oal of keeping the temperature between 180 to 190 degrees in all driving co=
nditions.=C2=A0 I hope my trials and findings will help you moving forward.=
=C2=A0 Any questions, please ask.

=C2=A0Regards

Joel Martin
=C2=A0On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 09:09:34 PM EDT, tigers-request@autox.=
team.net <[email-masked]> wrote:=C2=A0=C2=A0Send Tigers mail=
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=C2=A0 1. Re: Cooling Fan (LARRY PAULICK)
Joe, I did an article for Tigers United, that describes with photographs wh=
at I did for the full fans shroud.=C2=A0
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BTW, Tigers United has a lot of great articles covering the variety of subj=
ects. You might want to check it out.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

On Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown <[email-masked]> wrote:
Thanks for all of the replies.=C2=A0 I have a mostly stock engine (with Ede=
lbrock intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator.=C2=A0 I have a temperature ga=
uge mounted on the intake and the engine seems to run a little over 200 at =
idle but I haven't had any problems while driving the car.=C2=A0 My problem=
 right now is that I took the car out one afternoon when the temperature wa=
s over 100 degrees and when I pulled into the garage and shut the engine of=
f it puked some water onto the floor.=C2=A0 The temp gauge was showing arou=
nd 250 degrees at that point.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I already have the lower shr=
oud on my radiator and I am making some horn opening covers today.=C2=A0 I =
will also look at blocking off the area below the radiator.=C2=A0 I have re=
ad all of the articles that people have referred to and I believe I have an=
 airflow problem at low speeds.=C2=A0 So I was just looking for pusher fan =
recommendations at this point.=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0The best advice is to prob=
ably not drive in 100+ degree weather.=C2=A0Thanks,Joe Brown
On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers <tigers@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:
I made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the stock tiger=
, fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air comes throu=
gh the radiator down towards the ground and circles back through the radiat=
or again. So essentially you're just recycling hot air from your own radiat=
or.=C2=A0 It works.=C2=A0

On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd <[email-masked]> wrote:
I think michael hit the nail on the head.=C2=A0 first need to know is it ov=
erheating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed?=C2=A0a pusher fan wi=
ll only help at very low speed or when stopped.=C2=A0 and spal is the go to=
 brand.=C2=A0 =C2=A0still need the horn holes and gap between cross member =
and rad blocked.=C2=A0 cardboard and zip ties does the trick quickly and ca=
n be replaced with a more permanent=C2=A0solution later if you want.=C2=A0 =
also need a fan shroud.=C2=A0personally i've never needed the electric push=
er fan because i have a small 13" flex fan on the water pump pulley.=C2=A0 =
that creates enough pull through the radiator at idle.=C2=A0if its=C2=A0ove=
rheating at more than 30/40mph then its another problem entirely and there =
are a variety=C2=A0of other things to check.=C2=A0in my case its fuel boili=
ng in the carb under certain conditions=C2=A0(slowing down after running fa=
st in really high ambient temps above a particular altitude) rather than co=
olant temp which is the problem.=C2=A0 there are a bunch of things i could =
do there, most importantly a carb heat shield, but i've=C2=A0only suffered =
from it once.=C2=A0one thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling i=
ssues in the tiger over the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad =
top hose.=C2=A0 at least you can see how the coolant is circulating which h=
elps with thermostat or water pump issues and if you're used to how it shou=
ld look, even how blocked the radiator is.=C2=A0
On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers <[email-masked]=
.net> wrote:
I=E2=80=99ve been reading=C2=A0about cooling issues with tigers for more th=
at a decade (much less than some reading this) blocking horn holes, pusher =
fans, and shrouds etc etc. Entire studies have been done on=C2=A0this issue=
. Just check STOA, CAT or any club site. All good reads! I think the first =
place to start is=C2=A0knowing what the actual=C2=A0engine team really is. =
We all know that the original temp guage can be off. The other thing is: as=
 a dyed in the wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal engine temp. But, =
Ford engines can get to 195-200 degrees easily and that is not=C2=A0necessa=
rily a bad thing. Yes, I put a pusher in mine only because I had one. I=E2=
=80=99m not really sure is does=C2=A0anything. My=C2=A0original guage can s=
how 225-230 on =C2=A0a hot day (humidity plays a bitg role) but never has p=
ucked out fluid. The design of the should is an=C2=A0issue. It lets hot air=
 from the engine compartment to get under the radiator. Many, many, =E2=80=
=98fixes=E2=80=99 that can be=C2=A0done. However, on a hot low humidity day=
.. well good luck. JMO

On Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard <[email-masked]> wrote:
The article includes several suggestions.=C2=A0One of them is to seal the m=
issing section of the stock fan shroud at the bottom.=C2=A0A list member of=
fered a piece he fabricated.=C2=A0I obtained one and here are a couple of p=
ictures. I hope to fit it later this year.=C2=A0Even a few degrees of cooli=
ng will be worth the effort.=C2=A0Allan BallardMk1a Tiger=C2=A0<image0.jpeg=

Sent from my iPhone

Have you looked at this cooling suggestions? =C2=A0http://tigersunited.com/=
techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanValance1.asp=C2=A0It works grea=
t in Southern California heat.
On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:42=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
My Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in Texas.=C2=A0 I've re=
ad through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I will make some of =
the suggested modifications.=C2=A0 They listed two different pusher electri=
c fans in the article but both of them are no longer available.=C2=A0So, ha=
s anybody recently installed a pusher fan?=C2=A0 If so, what part numbers?=
=C2=A0Thanks,Joe Brown_______________________________________________

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<div class=3D"userEdit" style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;=
 font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;"><span style=3D"color: #000000; font-styl=
e: normal; font-weight: bold;">In speaking to a rep. from a fan company yea=
rs ago, he mentioned that a "puller" elect. fan would cool either 2 or 3 ti=
mes (can't remember the number) as well as a "pusher" elect. fan.&nbsp; Mak=
es sense since modern cars seems to use puller elctric's.&nbsp; Has anyone =
tried just one good elect. puller on a Tiger?<br></span></div>
<div class=3D"userEdit" style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;=
 font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;"><span style=3D"color: #000000; font-styl=
e: normal; font-weight: bold;">Mark</span></div>
<br>In a message dated 7/20/2023 1:58:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tigers@a=
utox.team.net writes:
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<p>As I was reading your "journey" when you got to the Flex-a-Lite fan (ini=
tial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people seem to have succe=
ss with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a particular Derale fan.&nbsp; I=
 can see where a pusher fan might impede airflow of a mechanical puller fan=
 but not the other way where a puller fan impedes the flow of a pusher fan.=
 That said given the "Flex" aspect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder if it cr=
eates a "wall of wind" and was causing the overheating issue. Without smoke=
 to see the flow of air movement I'm always baffled by things that blow ove=
r - and those that don't, leaves that deposit in one area of the yard - and=
 not another. So, whatever the flex fan was doing it seems germane to the i=
tself as others have not had the same issue with the recommended fans and a=
 pusher fan. I won't ask if the fan was installed backwards (you seen way s=
marter than that) but does the possibility exist that the fan design was fo=
r counter rotation? With serpentine belts in cars these days the rotation o=
f the water pump is often opposite of earlier engines of the same design. T=
he good news is that you found a solution to your problem. Enjoy the ride.<=
/p>
<div class=3D"yiv1694449977moz-cite-prefix">On 7/20/2023 7:47 AM, Joel Mart=
in via Tigers wrote:</div>
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<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: =
Times                New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: 12.0pt;">Tiger Running hot &ndash; Shotgun Approach after time of trying=
 baby steps.</span></span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: =
Times                New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: 12.0pt;">After about a year of struggling with car running hot at idle w=
ith the hood down, Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I took drastic steps=
.&nbsp; I have been driving the car during the last year only on back roads=
 with not much chance of traffic lights and traffic.&nbsp; I live in rural =
NC outside of Pinehurst.</span></span></p>
<div class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D=
"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size=
: 12.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></span><span style=3D"font-family: Times New Roman;=
 font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; Bloody yahoo mail formatting ruined numbering copied from MS Word, so=
 please ignore.&nbsp; <br></span></span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family=
: Times                New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize: 12.0pt;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1. Purchased and installed Sunbeam=
 Specialties (SS) gloss black radiator overflow tank, missing from car.</sp=
an></span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D=
"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size=
: 12.0pt;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. Purchased and installed =
overflow tank straps from <span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1dfrtlirtli=
dzssg">Alexander Washick</span><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1=
vrpvf">&nbsp;<a class=3D"yiv1694449977moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">=
[email-masked]</a> which are powder coated</span>, missing from car.</sp=
an></span></div>
<ol style=3D"margin-top: 0in;" start=3D"1" type=3D"1">
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv169444997=
7ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-fami=
ly: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"=
>Purchased and installed undersize water pump pulley from </span></span></s=
pan><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1dfrtlirtlidzssg">Robert Straghan=
</span><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf">&nbsp;<a class=3D=
"yiv1694449977moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">&lt;[email-masked]=
a&gt;</a> scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black</span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv169444997=
7ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-fami=
ly: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"=
>Purchased and installed horn hole block plates from </span></span></span><=
span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1dfrtlirtlidzssg">Don Lutjen</span><sp=
an class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf">&nbsp;<a class=3D"yiv169444=
9977moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> =
scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black.</span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv169444997=
7ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-fami=
ly: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"=
>Purchased and installed new taller custom aluminum cross flow side tank ra=
diator from Griffin Radiator.</span></span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv169444997=
7ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-fami=
ly: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"=
>Purchased and installed new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painted Ford d=
ark blue to match engine replacing SS water pump, pressed hub to line up.</=
span></span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv169444997=
7ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-fami=
ly: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"=
>Modified the mechanical fan spacer so that front of fan is 1&rdquo; from r=
adiator.</span></span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv169444997=
7ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-fami=
ly: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"=
>Mechanical fan remains Flex-a-Lite 14&rdquo; nylon 6 blade fan.</span></sp=
an></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv169444997=
7ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-fami=
ly: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"=
>Purchased and installed new SS lower radiator and overflow to radiator hos=
es.</span></span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv169444997=
7ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-fami=
ly: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"=
>New top radiator hose from local source, as SS hose would not fit taller r=
adiator.</span></span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv169444997=
7ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-fami=
ly: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"=
>New fan belt.</span></span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv169444997=
7ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-fami=
ly: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"=
>Purchased and refurbished original Tiger fan shroud which would not fit as=
 I did not want to cut a original shroud top mounting bracket to fit my tal=
ler radiator.&nbsp; Striped, primed and painted used shroud semi gloss blac=
k &ndash; sitting on shelf.</span></span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv169444997=
7ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-fami=
ly: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"=
>Installed 160 degree thermostat from 180.&nbsp; Could not find 170 degree.=
&nbsp; If anyone has a part number and supplier for a 170-degree thermostat=
, please forward.</span></span></span></li>
</ol>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977=
ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-famil=
y: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;">=
So at this point I do not have a fan shroud &ndash; unless make up a custom=
.&nbsp; Other changes could make is front air dam and block front cross mem=
ber to bottom of radiator spacing but for now I am going to see how things =
play out this summer.</span></span></span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977=
ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-famil=
y: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;">=
&nbsp;Ok after all the above I was still not satisfied with watching the te=
mperature gauge increase while at idle or in stop and go traffic.&nbsp; Goa=
l was to keep the temperature at ALL times between 180 and 190 degrees whet=
her driving or at idle.</span></span></span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977=
ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-famil=
y: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;">=
&nbsp;The following changes have been made since the above changes 1-13 aft=
er trial period of 6 months or so.</span></span></span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977=
ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-famil=
y: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;">=
&nbsp;</span></span></span><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpv=
f"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-family: Times New Roman; =
font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;">The Flow Kooler wate=
r pump started leaking so I purchased the SS water pump and installed it an=
d drove for a month or so.&nbsp; Install error on the Flow Kooler water pum=
p gasket turned out to be the problem.&nbsp; The SS water pump actually rai=
sed idle temps 2-3 degrees so I would later reinstall the Flow Kooler with =
a new gasket.</span></span></span></p>
<ol style=3D"margin-top: 0in;" start=3D"1" type=3D"1">
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv169444997=
7ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-fami=
ly: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"=
>Installed a couple of 12&rdquo; electric pusher fans I had in the garage a=
nd wired a manual off/on switch under the dash with a relay.&nbsp; Not much=
 help or change in idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go traffic.=
</span></span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv169444997=
7ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-fami=
ly: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"=
>Built and installed a custom fan shroud.&nbsp; Remember I have an oversize=
 Griffin radiator.&nbsp; This change resulted in idle temp. drop by maybe 2=
-3 degrees.&nbsp; Goal not achieve at this point but getting better.</span>=
</span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv169444997=
7ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-fami=
ly: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"=
>I then discussed issue with Flex-a-lite technical services hot line (multi=
ple times) regarding their electric pusher fan line.</span></span></span></=
li>
<ol style=3D"margin-top: 0in;" start=3D"1" type=3D"a">
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv169444997=
7ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-fami=
ly: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"=
>The rule of thumb they recommend:&nbsp; Electric fans of either the pusher=
 or puller type should be that the electric fan should cover 70% of the rad=
iator surface.&nbsp; Mine came out to 69.5% coverage.</span></span></span><=
/li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv169444997=
7ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-fami=
ly: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"=
>Small block V-8 engines recommendation is&nbsp; 3,000 CFM.</span></span></=
span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv169444997=
7ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-fami=
ly: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"=
>Flex - a- Lite had only 1 fan that met these specifications.</span></span>=
</span></li>
</ol>
</ol>
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th=3D"490">
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"color=
: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: xx-small;"><span style=3D"font-size=
: 9.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; font-weight: bold;"><a href=3D"h=
ttps://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofo=
llow noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: black;"><span style=3D"colo=
r: black;">FLX-105391</span></span></a></span></span></strong><span style=
=3D"color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: xx-small;"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;"><br>Electric Fan, Push=
er, Flex-Wave, Single, 16 in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm, Black, 20 amps,&nbsp; <b=
r>(Mfr. #: 239) </span></span></p>
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<ol style=3D"margin-top: 0in;" start=3D"4" type=3D"1">
<ol style=3D"margin-top: 0in;" start=3D"4" type=3D"a">
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv169444997=
7ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-fami=
ly: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"=
>Also purchased temp probe and relay from Flex &ndash; a Lite which is adju=
stable so you can set when the fan comes on.&nbsp; Off is 10 degrees from o=
n temp and is NOT adjustable.</span></span></span></li>
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in;" border=3D"0" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">
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Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;"><im=
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h=3D"198">
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"color=
: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: xx-small;"><span style=3D"font-size=
: 9.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; font-weight: bold;"><a href=3D"h=
ttps://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-121281" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofo=
llow noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: black;"><span style=3D"colo=
r: black;">FLX-121281</span></span></a></span></span></strong><span style=
=3D"color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: xx-small;"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;"><br>Fan Control, Compa=
ct, Adjustable, Thread-in Probe, Single Fan, Kit <br>(Mfr. #: 33095) </span=
></span></p>
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ium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;">lso purchased temperature probe ad=
apter and installed in the upper radiator hose.</span></span></span></div>
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<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"color=
: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: xx-small;"><span style=3D"font-size=
: 9.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; font-weight: bold;"><a href=3D"h=
ttps://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-107078" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofo=
llow noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: black;"><span style=3D"colo=
r: black;">FLX-107078</span></span></a></span></span></strong><span style=
=3D"color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: xx-small;"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;"><br>Radiator Hose Adap=
ter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2 in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in. NPT Ports, Includes One=
 Plug, Each <br>(Mfr. #: 32082) </span></span></p>
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"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"backgro=
und-color: inherit; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;">The idea was to run the stock temp gauge prob=
e&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; into the adapter and keep my mechanical temperatu=
re gauge in place in the manifold to verify stock gauge was pretty accurate=
.&nbsp; The &frac14; NPT port would not handle the stock probe and I could =
not find 1/4 probe with the correct ohms for the stock gauge, so manual tem=
p gauge is still in place which I believe is accurate.</span></span></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977=
ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-color: inherit; font-famil=
y: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;">=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;f.&nbsp; Goal still not achieved</span></span></span></p>
<ol style=3D"margin-top: 0in;" start=3D"5" type=3D"1">
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" style=3D"color: black;"><sp=
an class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-c=
olor: inherit; color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: mediu=
m;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; color: windowtext;">Flex - a - Lite t=
hen offered the following advice &ndash; &ldquo;</span></span></span>You ty=
pically only need one or the other. If you have a mechanical fan and just w=
ant extra cooling in stop and go traffic, I suggest you use a much smaller =
electric fan. But using both a mechanical and this bigger electric fan will=
 probably cause some disruption.&rdquo;&nbsp; The two smaller electric fans=
 I used did not work in my case, so advice about smaller electric fan in co=
njunction with mechanical water pump fan did not work in my particular car.=
</li>
</ol>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: =
Times                New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: 12.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></span><span style=3D"color: black; font-family: T=
imes New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; color=
: black;">Plan &hellip;. Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump with new ga=
sket.</span></span></p>
<ol style=3D"margin-top: 0in;" start=3D"5" type=3D"1">
<ol style=3D"margin-top: 0in;" start=3D"1" type=3D"a">
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: black=
; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: 12.0pt; color: black;">Removed the mechanical fan from the water pump an=
d the 1&rdquo; spacer.&nbsp; Finally success!&nbsp; Temp stays between 176 =
and 190 at ALL times regardless of ambient temperature and traffic conditio=
ns. So, in my case, the mechanical fan in conjunction with the electric fan=
 was causing air flow disruption.</span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: black=
; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: 12.0pt; color: black;">&nbsp;The temp at speed above 35 mph, the car run=
s around 176 degrees with 160 degree thermostat in temps 90 degrees and les=
s.&nbsp; About 183 in temperatures above 90, so not a issue. I might try ou=
t the 180 degree thermostat at some point, 170 if I could find one might be=
 optimum for my car.&nbsp; The only down side for me is the electric fan is=
 noisy when running and volts on volt gauge drops around &frac12; - &frac34=
;- volt when the fan comes on.. The battery volts dropping are due to fan d=
rawing 20 amps. This has not been a issue with lights on or off. I have a a=
lternator and not the generator so with generator cars, this might be an is=
sue.&nbsp; Now I cannot hear the electric fan <strong><span style=3D"font-w=
eight: bold;">at all</span></strong> inside the car but outside, it is nois=
y when running.&nbsp; Headers, 2.25" exhaust pipes with Flow Master series =
40 mufflers.&nbsp; I wonder why I cannot hear fan running.</span></span></l=
i>
</ol>
</ol>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: black;=
 font-family: Times                New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; color: black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 12.0pt;">So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions exc=
ept lower shroud addition and air dam to direct airflow.</span></span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: black;=
 font-family: Times                New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; color: black;">&nbsp;Every car reacts differently =
to changes and you have to keep trying different approaches that might work=
 for your car and temperature\humidity of the area you reside.</span></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: black;=
 font-family: Times                New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; color: black;">&nbsp;What changes I have made to m=
e that had the biggest result and what would I try again in what order to m=
inimize cost, effort and work involved.</span></span></p>
<div class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D=
"color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; color: black;">Yahoo formatting again. <br></span><=
/span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: blac=
k; font-family: Times                New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;">Test temp gauge and sender to ensure reading pr=
operly.</span></span></div>
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<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" style=3D"color: black;"><sp=
an style=3D"color: black; font-family: Times New                  Roman; fo=
nt-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;">Ensure radiator in goo=
d working order.</span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" style=3D"color: black;"><sp=
an style=3D"color: black; font-family: Times New                  Roman; fo=
nt-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;">Change thermostat from=
 180 to 170 then 160.</span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" style=3D"color: black;"><sp=
an style=3D"color: black; font-family: Times New                  Roman; fo=
nt-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;">Install horn block off=
 plates, minimal cost and about 1 hour to install.</span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" style=3D"color: black;"><sp=
an style=3D"color: black; font-family: Times New                  Roman; fo=
nt-size: medium;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;">Fan shroud if you do n=
ot have one, 2-3 degrees improvement in my case, custom made.&nbsp; Possibl=
e making of the lower portion of the shroud as well, which I have not done.=
</span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" style=3D"color: black;"><sp=
an class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-c=
olor: inherit; color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: mediu=
m;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; color: windowtext;">Undersize water p=
ump pulley and at same time, try a different mechanical fan and ensure fan =
is 1&rdquo; from radiator.</span></span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" style=3D"color: black;"><sp=
an class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-c=
olor: inherit; color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: mediu=
m;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; color: windowtext;">Flow Kooler water=
 pump BRA-1680, </span></span></span>2-3 degrees improvement in my case</li=
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" style=3D"color: black;"><sp=
an class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-c=
olor: inherit; color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: mediu=
m;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; color: windowtext;">New Griffin radia=
tor.&nbsp; They sell a package for the Tiger with radiator, electric fan an=
d shroud.&nbsp; Remember my radiator is a custom oversize radiator install =
by previous owner and the stock Griffin radiator or package would not work =
in my case but I have installed a new custom Griffin radiator.</span></span=
></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal" style=3D"color: black;"><sp=
an class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"background-c=
olor: inherit; color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: mediu=
m;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; color: windowtext;">Remove mechanical=
 fan and install electric pusher fan that covers 70% of your radiator surfa=
ce <strong><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">and </span></strong>moves 3,0=
00 cfm&rsquo;s as recommended for small block V-8 motors. Items 8 and 9 cou=
ld be in reverse order and step 9 will not necessary if you purchase the Gr=
iffin Tiger package, your call.</span></span></span></li>
</ol>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: black;=
 font-family: Times                New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; color: black;">&nbsp;So you see I have tried almos=
t all recommended suggestions except lower shroud addition and air dam to d=
irect air flow and have finally met my goal of keeping the temperature betw=
een 180 to 190 degrees in all driving conditions.&nbsp; I hope my trials an=
d findings will help you moving forward.&nbsp; Any questions, please ask.<b=
r></span></span></p>
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<div>Joe, I did an article for Tigers United, that describes with photograp=
hs what I did for the full fans shroud.
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<div>On Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown <a class=3D"yiv1694449977moz-t=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for all of the replies.&nbsp; I have a mostly stock=
 engine (with Edelbrock intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator.&nbsp; I have=
 a temperature gauge mounted on the intake and the engine seems to run a li=
ttle over 200 at idle but I haven't had any problems while driving the car.=
&nbsp; My problem right now is that I took the car out one afternoon when t=
he temperature was over 100 degrees and when I pulled into the garage and s=
hut the engine off it puked some water onto the floor.&nbsp; The temp gauge=
 was showing around 250 degrees at that point.&nbsp;&nbsp;
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some ho=
rn opening covers today.&nbsp; I will also look at blocking off the area be=
low the radiator.&nbsp; I have read all of the articles that people have re=
ferred to and I believe I have an airflow problem at low speeds.&nbsp; So I=
 was just looking for pusher fan recommendations at this point.&nbsp; &nbsp=
;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The best advice is to probably not drive in 100+ degree weather.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Joe Brown</div>
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On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers &lt;<a cla=
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<div>I made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the stock =
tiger, fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air comes =
through the radiator down towards the ground and circles back through the r=
adiator again. So essentially you're just recycling hot air from your own r=
adiator.&nbsp; It works.&nbsp;<br>
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<div>On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd &lt;<a class=3D"yiv1694449977=
moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrot=
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<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: Times-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-s=
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ext-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoratio=
n-line: none; text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentc=
olor;">I think michael hit the nail on the head.&nbsp; first need to know i=
s it overheating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed?
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>a pusher fan will only help at very low speed or when stopped.&nbsp; a=
nd spal is the go to brand.&nbsp; &nbsp;still need the horn holes and gap b=
etween cross member and rad blocked.&nbsp; cardboard and zip ties does the =
trick quickly and can be replaced with a more permanent&nbsp;solution later=
 if you want.&nbsp; also need a fan shroud.
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>personally i've never needed the electric pusher fan because i have a =
small 13" flex fan on the water pump pulley.&nbsp; that creates enough pull=
 through the radiator at idle.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>if its&nbsp;overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another problem=
 entirely and there are a variety&nbsp;of other things to check.</div>
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>in my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain conditions&nbsp;=
(slowing down after running fast in really high ambient temps above a parti=
cular altitude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem.&nbsp; there =
are a bunch of things i could do there, most importantly a carb heat shield=
, but i've&nbsp;only suffered from it once.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>one thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling issues in the t=
iger over the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hose.&nbsp=
; at least you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with ther=
mostat or water pump issues and if you're used to how it should look, even =
how blocked the radiator is.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers &lt;<a class=3D"yi=
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<div><span style=3D"font-size: large;">I&rsquo;ve been reading&nbsp;about c=
ooling issues with tigers for more that a decade (much less than some readi=
ng this) blocking horn holes, pusher fans, and shrouds etc etc. Entire stud=
ies have been done on&nbsp;this issue. Just check STOA, CAT or any club sit=
e. All good reads! I think the first place to start is&nbsp;knowing what th=
e actual&nbsp;engine team really is. We all know that the original temp gua=
ge can be off. The other thing is: as a dyed in the wool ford guy, 185 degr=
ees is the optimal engine temp. But, Ford engines can get to 195-200 degree=
s easily and that is not&nbsp;necessarily a bad thing. Yes, I put a pusher =
in mine only because I had one. I&rsquo;m not really sure is does&nbsp;anyt=
hing. My&nbsp;original guage can show 225-230 on &nbsp;a hot day (humidity =
plays a bitg role) but never has pucked out fluid. The design of the should=
 is an&nbsp;issue. It lets hot air from the engine compartment to get under=
 the radiator. Many, many, &lsquo;fixes&rsquo; that can be&nbsp;done. Howev=
er, on a hot low humidity day.. well good luck. JMO</span>
<div>
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<div>On Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard &lt;<a class=3D"yiv16944499=
77moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
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<br>
<div><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: no=
rmal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-tran=
sform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: =
none; text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor; fl=
oat: none; display: inline;">The article includes several suggestions.</spa=
n>
<div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:=
 none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; =
text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;">&nbsp;<=
/div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:=
 none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; =
text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;">One of =
them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan shroud at the bottom.<=
/div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:=
 none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; =
text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;">&nbsp;<=
/div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:=
 none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; =
text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;">A list =
member offered a piece he fabricated.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:=
 none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; =
text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;">&nbsp;<=
/div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:=
 none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; =
text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;">I obtai=
ned one and here are a couple of pictures. I hope to fit it later this year=
.</div>
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font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:=
 none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; =
text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;">&nbsp;<=
/div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:=
 none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; =
text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;">Even a =
few degrees of cooling will be worth the effort.</div>
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font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:=
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text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;">&nbsp;<=
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text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor;"><span i=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Have you looked at this cooling suggestions? &nbsp;<a clas=
s=3D"yiv1694449977moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/te=
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<div>It works great in Southern California heat.</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">My Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in Tex=
as.&nbsp; I've read through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I w=
ill make some of the suggested modifications.&nbsp; They listed two differe=
nt pusher electric fans in the article but both of them are no longer avail=
able.
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>So, has anybody recently installed a pusher fan?&nbsp; If so, what par=
t numbers?</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Joe Brown</div>
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Never had a problem with a flex fan.  Much more efficient at high rpm.

On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 19:55, Tom Witt via Tigers <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> (initial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people seem to have
> success with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a particular Derale fan. =
 I
> can see where a pusher fan might impede airflow of a mechanical puller fa=
n
> but not the other way where a puller fan impedes the flow of a pusher fan=
.
> That said given the "Flex" aspect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder if it
> creates a "wall of wind" and was causing the overheating issue. Without
> smoke to see the flow of air movement I'm always baffled by things that
> blow over - and those that don't, leaves that deposit in one area of the
> yard - and not another. So, whatever the flex fan was doing it seems
> germane to the itself as others have not had the same issue with the
> recommended fans and a pusher fan. I won't ask if the fan was installed
> backwards (you seen way smarter than that) but does the possibility exist
> that the fan design was for counter rotation? With serpentine belts in ca=
rs
> these days the rotation of the water pump is often opposite of earlier
> engines of the same design. The good news is that you found a solution to
> your problem. Enjoy the ride.
> Tiger Running hot =E2=80=93 Shotgun Approach after time of trying baby st=
eps.
> hood down, Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I took drastic steps.  I
> have been driving the car during the last year only on back roads with no=
t
> much chance of traffic lights and traffic.  I live in rural NC outside of
> Pinehurst.
>       Bloody yahoo mail formatting ruined numbering copied from MS Word,
> so please ignore.
> Washick [email-masked] which are powder coated, missing from car.
>
>    Straghan <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> scuffed, primed
>    and painted semi gloss black
>    2. Purchased and installed horn hole block plates from Don Lutjen
>    <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> scuffed, primed and
>    painted semi gloss black.
>    4. Purchased and installed new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painted
>    Ford dark blue to match engine replacing SS water pump, pressed hub to=
 line
>    up.
>    5. Modified the mechanical fan spacer so that front of fan is 1=E2=80=
=9D from
>    radiator.
>    6. Mechanical fan remains Flex-a-Lite 14=E2=80=9D nylon 6 blade fan.
>    not fit as I did not want to cut a original shroud top mounting bracke=
t to
>    fit my taller radiator.  Striped, primed and painted used shroud semi
>    gloss black =E2=80=93 sitting on shelf.
>    11. Installed 160 degree thermostat from 180.  Could not find 170
>    degree.  If anyone has a part number and supplier for a 170-degree
> So at this point I do not have a fan shroud =E2=80=93 unless make up a cu=
stom.  Other
> changes could make is front air dam and block front cross member to botto=
m
> of radiator spacing but for now I am going to see how things play out thi=
s
> summer.
> temperature gauge increase while at idle or in stop and go traffic.  Goal
> was to keep the temperature at ALL times between 180 and 190 degrees
> whether driving or at idle.
>
>  The following changes have been made since the above changes 1-13 after
> trial period of 6 months or so.
>
> pump and installed it and drove for a month or so.  Install error on the
> Flow Kooler water pump gasket turned out to be the problem.  The SS water
> pump actually raised idle temps 2-3 degrees so I would later reinstall th=
e
> Flow Kooler with a new gasket.
>
>    1. Installed a couple of 12=E2=80=9D electric pusher fans I had in the=
 garage
>    and wired a manual off/on switch under the dash with a relay.  Not
>    much help or change in idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go
>    traffic.
>    2. Built and installed a custom fan shroud.  Remember I have an
>    oversize Griffin radiator.  This change resulted in idle temp. drop by
>    maybe 2-3 degrees.  Goal not achieve at this point but getting better.
>    3. I then discussed issue with Flex-a-lite technical services hot line
>    (multiple times) regarding their electric pusher fan line.
>       1. The rule of thumb they recommend:  Electric fans of either the
>       pusher or puller type should be that the electric fan should cover =
70% of
>       the radiator surface.  Mine came out to 69.5% coverage.
>       2. Small block V-8 engines recommendation is  3,000 CFM.
>    1. Also purchased temp probe and relay from Flex =E2=80=93 a Lite whic=
h is
>       adjustable so you can set when the fan comes on.  Off is 10 degrees
>            e. Also purchased temperature probe adapter and installed in
> the upper radiator hose.
>
>
>
> Ports, Includes One Plug, Each
> (Mfr. #: 32082)
>
> The idea was to run the stock temp gauge probe     into the adapter and
> keep my mechanical temperature gauge in place in the manifold to verify
> stock gauge was pretty accurate.  The =C2=BC NPT port would not handle th=
e
> stock probe and I could not find 1/4 probe with the correct ohms for the
> stock gauge, so manual temp gauge is still in place which I believe is
> accurate.
>
>              f.  Goal still not achieved
>
>    1. Flex - a - Lite then offered the following advice =E2=80=93 =E2=80=
=9CYou typically
>    only need one or the other. If you have a mechanical fan and just want
>    extra cooling in stop and go traffic, I suggest you use a much smaller
>    electric fan. But using both a mechanical and this bigger electric fan=
 will
>    probably cause some disruption.=E2=80=9D  The two smaller electric fan=
s I used
>    did not work in my case, so advice about smaller electric fan in
>    conjunction with mechanical water pump fan did not work in my particul=
ar
>    car.
>
>  Plan =E2=80=A6. Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump with new gasket.
>
>    1. Removed the mechanical fan from the water pump and the 1=E2=80=9D s=
pacer.  Finally
>       success!  Temp stays between 176 and 190 at ALL times regardless of
>       ambient temperature and traffic conditions. So, in my case, the mec=
hanical
>       fan in conjunction with the electric fan was causing air flow disru=
ption.
>       2.  The temp at speed above 35 mph, the car runs around 176 degrees
>       with 160 degree thermostat in temps 90 degrees and less.  About 183
>       in temperatures above 90, so not a issue. I might try out the 180
>       degree thermostat at some point, 170 if I could find one might be o=
ptimum
>       for my car.  The only down side for me is the electric fan is noisy
>       when running and volts on volt gauge drops around =C2=BD - =C2=BE- =
volt when the fan
>       comes on.. The battery volts dropping are due to fan drawing 20 amp=
s. This
>       has not been a issue with lights on or off. I have a alternator and=
 not the
>       generator so with generator cars, this might be an issue.  Now I
>       cannot hear the electric fan *at all* inside the car but outside,
>       it is noisy when running.  Headers, 2.25" exhaust pipes with Flow
>       Master series 40 mufflers.  I wonder why I cannot hear fan running.
>
>  So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except lower
> shroud addition and air dam to direct airflow.
>
> different approaches that might work for your car and temperature\humidit=
y
> of the area you reside.
>
>  What changes I have made to me that had the biggest result and what woul=
d
> I try again in what order to minimize cost, effort and work involved.
> Yahoo formatting again.
>    case, custom made.  Possible making of the lower portion of the shroud
>    as well, which I have not done.
>    mechanical fan and ensure fan is 1=E2=80=9D from radiator.
>    7. New Griffin radiator.  They sell a package for the Tiger with
>    radiator, electric fan and shroud.  Remember my radiator is a custom
>    oversize radiator install by previous owner and the stock Griffin radi=
ator
>    or package would not work in my case but I have installed a new custom
>    Griffin radiator.
>    70% of your radiator surface *and *moves 3,000 cfm=E2=80=99s as recomm=
ended
d
our
>    call.
>
>  So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except lower
> shroud addition and air dam to direct air flow and have finally met my go=
al
> of keeping the temperature between 180 to 190 degrees in all driving
> conditions.  I hope my trials and findings will help you moving forward.
> Any questions, please ask.
>
>  Regards
>
> Joel Martin
>
> [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Joe, I did an article for Tigers United, that describes with photographs
> what I did for the full fans shroud.
>
> TigersUnited.com
> On Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown <[email-masked]>
> Edelbrock intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator.  I have a temperature
> gauge mounted on the intake and the engine seems to run a little over 200
> at idle but I haven't had any problems while driving the car.  My problem
> right now is that I took the car out one afternoon when the temperature w=
as
> over 100 degrees and when I pulled into the garage and shut the engine of=
f
> it puked some water onto the floor.  The temp gauge was showing around 25=
0
> degrees at that point.
>
> I already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some horn
> opening covers today.  I will also look at blocking off the area below th=
e
> radiator.  I have read all of the articles that people have referred to a=
nd
> I believe I have an airflow problem at low speeds.  So I was just looking
> for pusher fan recommendations at this point.
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> I made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the stock
> tiger, fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air come=
s
> through the radiator down towards the ground and circles back through the
> radiator again. So essentially you're just recycling hot air from your ow=
n
> radiator.  It works.
> I think michael hit the nail on the head.  first need to know is it
> overheating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed?
>
> a pusher fan will only help at very low speed or when stopped.  and spal
> is the go to brand.   still need the horn holes and gap between cross
> member and rad blocked.  cardboard and zip ties does the trick quickly an=
d
> can be replaced with a more permanent solution later if you want.  also
> need a fan shroud.
>
> personally i've never needed the electric pusher fan because i have a
> small 13" flex fan on the water pump pulley.  that creates enough pull
> through the radiator at idle.
>
> if its overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another problem entirel=
y
> and there are a variety of other things to check.
>
> in my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain conditions (slowing
> down after running fast in really high ambient temps above a particular
> altitude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem.  there are a bun=
ch
> of things i could do there, most importantly a carb heat shield, but
> i've only suffered from it once.
>
> one thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling issues in the tige=
r
> over the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hose.  at lea=
st
> you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with thermostat or
> water pump issues and if you're used to how it should look, even how
> blocked the radiator is.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers <[email-masked]=
am.net>
> wrote:
>
> I=E2=80=99ve been reading about cooling issues with tigers for more that =
a decade
> (much less than some reading this) blocking horn holes, pusher fans, and
> shrouds etc etc. Entire studies have been done on this issue. Just check
> STOA, CAT or any club site. All good reads! I think the first place to
> start is knowing what the actual engine team really is. We all know that
> the original temp guage can be off. The other thing is: as a dyed in the
> wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal engine temp. But, Ford engines
> can get to 195-200 degrees easily and that is not necessarily a bad thing=
.
> Yes, I put a pusher in mine only because I had one. I=E2=80=99m not reall=
y sure is
> does anything. My original guage can show 225-230 on  a hot day (humidity
> plays a bitg role) but never has pucked out fluid. The design of the shou=
ld
> is an issue. It lets hot air from the engine compartment to get under the
> radiator. Many, many, =E2=80=98fixes=E2=80=99 that can be done. However, =
on a hot low
> humidity day.. well good luck. JMO
>
> On Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
> One of them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan shroud at the
> bottom.
>
> I obtained one and here are a couple of pictures. I hope to fit it later
> this year.
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanValan=
ce1.asp
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:42=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
>
> My Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in Texas.  I've read
> through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I will make some of t=
he
> suggested modifications.  They listed two different pusher electric fans =
in
> the article but both of them are no longer available.
>
> So, has anybody recently installed a pusher fan?  If so, what part number=
s?
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<div dir=3D"auto">Never had a problem with a flex fan.=C2=A0 Much more effi=
cient at high rpm.</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 19:55, Tom Witt via Tigers &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
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    <p>As I was reading your &quot;journey&quot; when you got to the Flex-a=
-Lite
      fan (initial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people
      seem to have success with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a
      particular Derale fan.=C2=A0 I can see where a pusher fan might imped=
e
      airflow of a mechanical puller fan but not the other way where a
      puller fan impedes the flow of a pusher fan. That said given the
      &quot;Flex&quot; aspect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder if it creates=
 a
      &quot;wall of wind&quot; and was causing the overheating issue. Witho=
ut
      smoke to see the flow of air movement I&#39;m always baffled by thing=
s
      that blow over - and those that don&#39;t, leaves that deposit in one
      area of the yard - and not another. So, whatever the flex fan was
      doing it seems germane to the itself as others have not had the
      same issue with the recommended fans and a pusher fan. I won&#39;t as=
k
      if the fan was installed backwards (you seen way smarter than
      that) but does the possibility exist that the fan design was for
      counter rotation? With serpentine belts in cars these days the
      rotation of the water pump is often opposite of earlier engines of
      the same design. The good news is that you found a solution to
      your problem. Enjoy the ride.<br>
    </p></div><div>
    <div>On 7/20/2023 7:47 AM, Joel Martin via
      Tigers wrote:<br>
    </div>
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e type=3D"cite">
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      <div style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif;f=
ont-size:16px">
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,times,serif">
          <div style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if">
            <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
                New Roman" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times Ne=
w Roman&quot;">Tiger Running
                  hot =E2=80=93 Shotgun Approach after time of trying baby
                  steps.</span></font></p>
            <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
                New Roman" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times Ne=
w Roman&quot;">After about a
                  year of struggling with car running hot at idle with
                  the
                  hood down, Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I took
                  drastic steps.<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>I have been driving the
                  car during the last year
                  only on back roads with not much chance of traffic
                  lights and traffic.<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times=
 New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>I live in rural NC
                  outside of Pinehurst.</span></font></p>
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uot;,times,serif"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0</span></font><font s=
ize=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Rom=
an&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;=
Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
                  Bloody yahoo mail formatting ruined numbering copied
                  from MS Word, so please ignore.=C2=A0 <br>
                </span></font></div>
            <div style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,s=
erif"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
                New Roman" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times Ne=
w Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 1.
                  Purchased and installed Sunbeam Specialties (SS) gloss
                  black radiator overflow tank, missing from car.</span></f=
ont></div>
            <div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&q=
uot;,times,serif"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 2. Purchased and
                  installed overflow tank straps from <span style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Alexander Washick</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:alw6464@gma=
il.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times=
 New Roman&quot;">[email-masked]</a>
                    which are powder coated</span>, missing from car.<span =
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"></span></span></font></di=
v>
            <ol style=3D"margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,&quot;new york=
&quot;,times,serif" type=3D"1" start=3D"1">
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Purchased and inst=
alled
                      undersize water pump pulley from </span></font></span=
><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif">Robe=
rt Straghan</span><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,=
times,serif">=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
 style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif">&lt;rgstra=
[email-masked]&gt;</a>
                  scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black</span></li>
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Purchased and inst=
alled
                      horn hole block plates from </span></font></span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif">Don Lutje=
n</span><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,seri=
f">=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"=
font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif">&lt;dlutjen55@gmail.=
com&gt;</a>
                  scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black.</span></li>
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Purchased and inst=
alled
                      new taller custom aluminum cross flow side tank
                      radiator from Griffin Radiator.</span></font></span><=
/li>
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Purchased and inst=
alled
                      new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painted Ford
                      dark blue to match engine replacing SS water pump,
                      pressed hub to line up.</span></font></span></li>
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Modified the mecha=
nical
                      fan spacer so that front of fan is 1=E2=80=9D from
                      radiator.</span></font></span></li>
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Mechanical fan rem=
ains
                      Flex-a-Lite 14=E2=80=9D nylon 6 blade fan.</span></fo=
nt></span></li>
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Purchased and inst=
alled
                      new SS lower radiator and overflow to radiator
                      hoses.</span></font></span></li>
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">New top radiator h=
ose
                      from local source, as SS hose would not fit taller
                      radiator.</span></font></span></li>
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">New fan belt.</spa=
n></font></span></li>
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Purchased and refu=
rbished
                      original Tiger fan shroud which would not fit as I
                      did not want to cut a original shroud top mounting
                      bracket to fit my taller radiator.<span style=3D"font=
-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>Striped,
                      primed and painted used shroud semi gloss black =E2=
=80=93
                      sitting on shelf.</span></font></span></li>
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Installed 160 degr=
ee
                      thermostat from 180.<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;=
Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>Could not find
                      170 degree.<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New=
 Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>If anyone has a part
                      number and supplier for a 170-degree thermostat,
                      please forward.</span></font></span></li>
            </ol>
            <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif"><=
font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:inhe=
rit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">So
                    at this point I do not have a fan shroud =E2=80=93 unle=
ss
                    make up a custom.<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times=
 New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>Other changes could
                    make is front air dam and block front cross member
                    to bottom of radiator spacing
                    but for now I am going to see how things play out
                    this summer.</span></font></span></p>
            <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif"><=
font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:inhe=
rit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0Ok
                    after all the above I was still not satisfied with
                    watching the temperature gauge increase while at
                    idle or in stop and go
                    traffic.<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roma=
n&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>Goal was to keep the
                    temperature at ALL times between 180 and 190 degrees
                    whether driving or at
                    idle.</span></font></span></p>
            <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif"><=
font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:inhe=
rit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0The
                    following changes have been made since the above
                    changes 1-13 after trial period of 6 months or so.</spa=
n></font></span></p>
            <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif"><=
font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:inhe=
rit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0</span></font><=
/span><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif"=
><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:in=
herit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"=
font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">The
                    Flow Kooler water pump started leaking so I
                    purchased the SS water pump and installed it and
                    drove for a month or so.<span style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>Install
                    error on the Flow Kooler water pump gasket turned
                    out to be the problem.<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;=
Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>The SS water
                    pump actually raised idle temps 2-3 degrees so I
                    would later reinstall the Flow Kooler with a new
                    gasket.</span></font></span></p>
            <ol style=3D"margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,&quot;new york=
&quot;,times,serif" type=3D"1" start=3D"1">
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Installed a couple=
 of 12=E2=80=9D
                      electric pusher fans I had in the garage and wired
                      a manual off/on switch under the dash with a
                      relay.<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roma=
n&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>Not much help or change in
                      idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go
                      traffic.</span></font></span></li>
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Built and installe=
d a
                      custom fan shroud.<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>Remember I have
                      an oversize Griffin radiator.<span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>This
                      change resulted in idle temp. drop by maybe 2-3
                      degrees.<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Ro=
man&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>Goal not achieve at this
                      point but getting better.</span></font></span></li>
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">I then discussed i=
ssue
                      with Flex-a-lite technical services hot line
                      (multiple times) regarding their electric pusher
                      fan line.</span></font></span></li>
              <ol style=3D"margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,&quot;new yo=
rk&quot;,times,serif" type=3D"a" start=3D"1">
                <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,time=
s,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color=
:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">The rule of thu=
mb they
                        recommend:<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times Ne=
w Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>Electric fans of
                        either the pusher or puller type should be that
                        the electric fan should cover 70% of the
                        radiator surface.<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>Mine came out
                        to 69.5% coverage.</span></font></span></li>
                <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,time=
s,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color=
:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Small block V-8=
 engines
                        recommendation is<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>3,000 CFM.</span></font></span></li>
                <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,time=
s,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color=
:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Flex - a- Lite =
had only
                        1 fan that met these specifications.</span></font><=
/span></li>
              </ol>
            </ol>
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                    <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,t=
imes,serif">=C2=A0<font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"></span></font></p>
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ond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif" width=3D"490" valign=3D"top">
                    <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,t=
imes,serif"><b style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Arial" style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,=
0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color=
:black"><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391" rel=3D"no=
follow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:Arial"><font style=3D"font-f=
amily:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:black"=
>FLX-105391</span></font></a></span></font></b><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Ari=
al" style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:9=
pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><br>
                          Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, 16
                          in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm, Black, 20 amps,<span sty=
le=3D"font-family:Arial">=C2=A0
                          </span><br>
                          (Mfr. #: 239) </span></font></p>
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            <ol style=3D"margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,&quot;new york=
&quot;,times,serif" type=3D"1" start=3D"4">
              <ol style=3D"margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,&quot;new yo=
rk&quot;,times,serif" type=3D"a" start=3D"4">
                <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,time=
s,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color=
:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Also purchased =
temp
                        probe and relay from Flex =E2=80=93 a Lite which is
                        adjustable so you can set when the fan comes on.<sp=
an style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0
                        </span>Off is 10 degrees from on temp and is NOT
                        adjustable.</span></font></span></li>
              </ol>
            </ol>
            <table style=3D"width:6.25in;font-family:garamond,&quot;new yor=
k&quot;,times,serif" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" bord=
er=3D"0">
              <tbody style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,tim=
es,serif">
                <tr style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,time=
s,serif">
                  <td style=3D"width:7.5pt;padding:0in;font-family:garamond=
,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif" width=3D"10">
                    <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,t=
imes,serif"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"font-family:=
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt=
;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"><img width=3D"10" height=3D"17" b=
order=3D"0" style=3D"font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"></span></fo=
nt></p>
                  </td>
                  <td style=3D"width:148.5pt;padding:0in;font-family:garamo=
nd,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif" width=3D"198" valign=3D"top">
                    <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,t=
imes,serif"><b style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Arial" style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,=
0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color=
:black"><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-121281" rel=3D"no=
follow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:Arial"><font style=3D"font-f=
amily:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:black"=
>FLX-121281</span></font></a></span></font></b><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Ari=
al" style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:9=
pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><br>
                          Fan Control, Compact, Adjustable, Thread-in
                          Probe, Single Fan, Kit <br>
                          (Mfr. #: 33095) </span></font></p>
                  </td>
                </tr>
              </tbody>
            </table>
            <div style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,s=
erif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif"=
><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:in=
herit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"=
font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"><span style=3D"font=
-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
                      e. A</span></span></font></span><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif"><font style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" siz=
e=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:=
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">lso
                    purchased temperature probe adapter and installed in
                    the upper radiator hose.</span></font></span></div>
            <table style=3D"width:6.25in;font-family:garamond,&quot;new yor=
k&quot;,times,serif" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" bord=
er=3D"0">
              <tbody style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,tim=
es,serif">
                <tr style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,time=
s,serif">
                  <td style=3D"width:7.5pt;padding:0in;font-family:garamond=
,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif" width=3D"10">
                    <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,t=
imes,serif">=C2=A0<font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"></span></font></p>
                  </td>
                  <td style=3D"width:148.5pt;padding:0in;font-family:garamo=
nd,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif" width=3D"198" valign=3D"top">
                    <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,t=
imes,serif"><b style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Arial" style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,=
0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color=
:black"><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-107078" rel=3D"no=
follow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:Arial"><font style=3D"font-f=
amily:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:black"=
>FLX-107078</span></font></a></span></font></b><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Ari=
al" style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:9=
pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><br>
                          Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2
                          in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in. NPT Ports, Includes
                          One Plug, Each <br>
                          (Mfr. #: 32082) </span></font></p>
                  </td>
                </tr>
              </tbody>
            </table>
            <p style=3D"margin-left:0.75in;font-family:garamond,&quot;new y=
ork&quot;,times,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&q=
uot;,times,serif"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;ba=
ckground-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman=
"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Th=
e
                    idea was to
                    run the stock temp gauge probe<span style=3D"font-famil=
y:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span>into
                    the adapter and keep my mechanical temperature gauge
                    in place in the manifold
                    to verify stock gauge was pretty accurate.<span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0
                    </span>The =C2=BC NPT port would not handle the stock
                    probe and I could not find 1/4
                    probe with the correct ohms for the stock gauge, so
                    manual temp gauge is still
                    in place which I believe is accurate.</span></font></sp=
an></p>
            <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif"><=
font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:inhe=
rit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0f.<span style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0
                    </span>Goal still not achieved</span></font></span></p>
            <ol style=3D"margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,&quot;new york=
&quot;,times,serif" type=3D"1" start=3D"5">
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif;color:black"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;=
,times,serif"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;backgr=
ound-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:w=
indowtext">Flex - a
                      - Lite then offered the following advice =E2=80=93 =
=E2=80=9C</span></font></span>You
                typically only need one or the other. If you have a
                mechanical fan and just want extra cooling in stop and
                go traffic, I suggest you use a much smaller electric
                fan. But using both a mechanical and this bigger
                electric fan will probably cause some disruption.=E2=80=9D<=
span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif">=C2=A0
                </span>The two smaller electric fans I used did not work
                in my case, so advice about smaller electric fan in
                conjunction with mechanical water pump fan did not work
                in my particular car.</li>
            </ol>
            <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
                New Roman" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times Ne=
w Roman&quot;">=C2=A0</span></font><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman=
" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:black=
">Plan =E2=80=A6.
                  Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump with new
                  gasket.</span></font></p>
            <ol style=3D"margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,&quot;new york=
&quot;,times,serif" type=3D"1" start=3D"5">
              <ol style=3D"margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,&quot;new yo=
rk&quot;,times,serif" type=3D"a" start=3D"1">
                <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,time=
s,serif"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:black">Removed the
                      mechanical fan from the water pump and the 1=E2=80=9D
                      spacer.<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Rom=
an&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>Finally success!<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>Temp
                      stays between 176 and 190 at ALL times regardless
                      of ambient temperature and traffic conditions. So,
                      in my case, the mechanical fan in conjunction with
                      the electric fan was causing air flow disruption.</sp=
an></font></li>
                <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,time=
s,serif"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:black"><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0</span>The
                      temp at speed above 35 mph, the car runs around
                      176 degrees with 160 degree thermostat in temps 90
                      degrees and less.<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tim=
es New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 About 183 in temperatures
                        above 90, so not a issue. </span>I might try
                      out the 180 degree thermostat at some point, 170
                      if I could find one might be optimum for my car.<span=
 style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0
                      </span>The only down side for me is the electric
                      fan is noisy when running and volts on volt gauge
                      drops around =C2=BD - =C2=BE- volt when the fan comes=
 on..
                      The battery volts dropping are due to fan drawing
                      20 amps. This has not been a issue with lights on
                      or off. I have a alternator and not the generator
                      so with generator cars, this might be an issue.<span =
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0
                      </span>Now I cannot hear the electric fan <b style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;f=
ont-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">at all</span></b>
                      inside the car but outside, it is noisy when
                      running.<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Ro=
man&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>Headers, 2.25&quot; exhaust
                      pipes with Flow Master series 40 mufflers.<span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0
                      </span>I wonder why I cannot hear fan running.</span>=
</font></li>
              </ol>
            </ol>
            <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
                New Roman" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times Ne=
w Roman&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-=
family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">So you see I have tried
                  almost all recommended
                  suggestions except lower shroud addition and air dam
                  to direct airflow.</span></font></p>
            <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
                New Roman" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times Ne=
w Roman&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0Every car reacts
                  differently to changes
                  and you have to keep trying different approaches that
                  might work for your car
                  and temperature\humidity of the area you reside.</span></=
font></p>
            <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
                New Roman" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times Ne=
w Roman&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0What changes I
                  have made to me that had
                  the biggest result and what would I try again in what
                  order to minimize cost,
                  effort and work involved.</span></font></p>
            <div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&q=
uot;,times,serif"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:black">Yahoo
                  formatting again. <br>
                </span></font></div>
            <div style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,s=
erif"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
                New Roman" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times Ne=
w Roman&quot;">Test
                  temp gauge and sender to ensure reading properly.</span><=
/font></div>
            <ol style=3D"margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,&quot;new york=
&quot;,times,serif" type=3D"1" start=3D"1">
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif;color:black"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New
                  Roman" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;">Ensure
                    radiator in good working order.</span></font></li>
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif;color:black"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New
                  Roman" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;">Change
                    thermostat from 180 to 170 then 160.</span></font></li>
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif;color:black"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New
                  Roman" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;">Install
                    horn block off plates, minimal cost and about 1 hour
                    to install.</span></font></li>
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif;color:black"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New
                  Roman" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;">Fan
                    shroud if you do not have one, 2-3 degrees
                    improvement in my case, custom made.<span style=3D"font=
-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>Possible
                    making of the lower portion of the shroud as well,
                    which I have not done.</span></font></li>
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif;color:black"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;=
,times,serif"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;backgr=
ound-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:w=
indowtext">Undersize
                      water pump pulley and at same time, try a
                      different mechanical fan and ensure fan is 1=E2=80=9D=
 from
                      radiator.</span></font></span></li>
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif;color:black"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;=
,times,serif"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;backgr=
ound-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:w=
indowtext">Flow
                      Kooler water pump BRA-1680, </span></font></span>2-3
                degrees improvement in my case</li>
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif;color:black"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;=
,times,serif"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;backgr=
ound-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:w=
indowtext">New
                      Griffin radiator.<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tim=
es New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>They sell a
                      package for the Tiger with radiator, electric fan
                      and shroud.<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New=
 Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>Remember my radiator is
                      a custom oversize radiator install by previous
                      owner and the stock Griffin radiator or package
                      would not work in my case but I have installed a
                      new custom Griffin radiator.</span></font></span></li=
              <li style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,=
serif;color:black"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;=
,times,serif"><font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;backgr=
ound-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:w=
indowtext">Remove
                      mechanical fan and install electric pusher fan
                      that covers 70% of your radiator surface <b style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">and </span></b>moves
                      3,000 cfm=E2=80=99s as recommended for small block V-=
8
                      motors. Items 8 and 9 could be in reverse order
                      and step 9 will not necessary if you purchase the
                      Griffin Tiger package, your call.</span></font></span=
></li>
            </ol>
            <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
                New Roman" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times Ne=
w Roman&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0So you see I
                  have tried almost all
                  recommended suggestions except lower shroud addition
                  and air dam to direct air
                  flow and have finally met my goal of keeping the
                  temperature between 180 to 190
                  degrees in all driving conditions.<span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span>I
                  hope my trials and findings will help you moving
                  forward.=C2=A0 Any questions, please ask.<br>
                </span></font></p>
            <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif"><=
font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:inhe=
rit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0Regards</span><=
/font></span></p>
            <p style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,ser=
if"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif"><=
font style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;background-color:inhe=
rit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">Joel
                    Martin</span></font></span></p>
            <div style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,s=
erif"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
                New Roman" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times Ne=
w Roman&quot;">=C2=A0</span></font></div>
            <div style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,s=
erif">On Wednesday, July 19,
              2023 at 09:09:34 PM EDT, <a href=3D"mailto:tigers-request@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york=
&quot;,times,serif">[email-masked]</a>
              <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank" style=3D"font-family:garamond,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif">&lt;t=
[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote: </div>
          </div>
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            =C2=A0 1. Re: Cooling Fan (LARRY PAULICK)<br>
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lvetica,Arial,sans-serif">BTW, Tigers United has a lot of great articles
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Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
                        <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot=
;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">On Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown
                          <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial=
,sans-serif">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote:</div>
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                          <div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helve=
tica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Thanks for all of the replies.=
=C2=A0
                            I have a mostly stock engine (with Edelbrock
                            intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator.=C2=A0 I
                            have a temperature gauge mounted on the
                            intake and the engine seems to run a little
                            over 200 at idle but I haven&#39;t had any
                            problems while driving the car.=C2=A0 My proble=
m
                            right now is that I took the car out one
                            afternoon when the temperature was over 100
                            degrees and when I pulled into the garage
                            and shut the engine off it puked some water
                            onto the floor.=C2=A0 The temp gauge was showin=
g
                            around 250 degrees at that point.=C2=A0=C2=A0
                            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&=
quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br>
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                            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&=
quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">I already have the lower shroud on my
                              radiator and I am making some horn opening
                              covers today.=C2=A0 I will also look at
                              blocking off the area below the radiator.=C2=
=A0
                              I have read all of the articles that
                              people have referred to and I believe I
                              have an airflow problem at low speeds.=C2=A0 =
So
                              I was just looking for pusher fan
                              recommendations at this point.=C2=A0 =C2=A0</=
div>
                            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&=
quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br>
                            </div>
                            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&=
quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">The best advice is to probably not
                              drive in 100+ degree weather.</div>
                            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&=
quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br>
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                            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&=
quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Thanks,</div>
                            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&=
quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Joe Brown</div>
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                          <br>
                          <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&qu=
ot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
                            <div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">On
                              Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PA=
ULICK
                              via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox=
.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
;
                              wrote:<br>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;font-family:&=
quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;border-left-color:rgb(=
204,204,204)">
                              <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neu=
e&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">I made a custom lower fan shroud, as
                                one does not exist for the stock tiger,
                                fan shroud. I did smoke test with the
                                car at idle and the air comes through
                                the radiator down towards the ground and
                                circles back through the radiator again.
                                So essentially you&#39;re just recycling ho=
t
                                air from your own radiator.=C2=A0 It works.=
=C2=A0<br>
                                <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica N=
eue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br>
                                  <blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
                                    <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helveti=
ca Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM,
                                      Owain Lloyd &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:owa=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">[email-masked]=
om</a>&gt;
                                      wrote:</div>
                                    <br>
                                    <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helveti=
ca Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
                                      <div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family=
:Times-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacin=
g:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
g:0px;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-colo=
r:currentcolor">I think michael
                                        hit the nail on the head.=C2=A0 fir=
st
                                        need to know is it overheating
                                        when stationary / moving slowly
                                        or at speed?
                                        <div style=3D"font-family:Times-Rom=
an"><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div style=3D"font-family:Times-Rom=
an">a pusher fan will only help
                                          at very low speed or when
                                          stopped.=C2=A0 and spal is the go
                                          to brand.=C2=A0 =C2=A0still need =
the
                                          horn holes and gap between
                                          cross member and rad blocked.=C2=
=A0
                                          cardboard and zip ties does
                                          the trick quickly and can be
                                          replaced with a more
                                          permanent=C2=A0solution later if
                                          you want.=C2=A0 also need a fan
                                          shroud.
                                          <div style=3D"font-family:Times-R=
oman"><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div style=3D"font-family:Times-R=
oman">personally i&#39;ve never
                                            needed the electric pusher
                                            fan because i have a small
                                            13&quot; flex fan on the water
                                            pump pulley.=C2=A0 that creates
                                            enough pull through the
                                            radiator at idle.</div>
                                          <div style=3D"font-family:Times-R=
oman"><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div style=3D"font-family:Times-R=
oman">if its=C2=A0overheating at
                                            more than 30/40mph then its
                                            another problem entirely and
                                            there are a variety=C2=A0of oth=
er
                                            things to check.</div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div style=3D"font-family:Times-Rom=
an"><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div style=3D"font-family:Times-Rom=
an">in my case its fuel boiling
                                          in the carb under certain
                                          conditions=C2=A0(slowing down aft=
er
                                          running fast in really high
                                          ambient temps above a
                                          particular altitude) rather
                                          than coolant temp which is the
                                          problem.=C2=A0 there are a bunch =
of
                                          things i could do there, most
                                          importantly a carb heat
                                          shield, but i&#39;ve=C2=A0only su=
ffered
                                          from it once.</div>
                                        <div style=3D"font-family:Times-Rom=
an"><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div style=3D"font-family:Times-Rom=
an">one thing i&#39;ve found very
                                          useful for debugging cooling
                                          issues in the tiger over the
                                          years is having a glass gano
                                          filter in the rad top hose.=C2=A0
                                          at least you can see how the
                                          coolant is circulating which
                                          helps with thermostat or water
                                          pump issues and if you&#39;re use=
d
                                          to how it should look, even
                                          how blocked the radiator is.</div=
                                        <div style=3D"font-family:Times-Rom=
an"><br>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <br style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman;=
font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text=
-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-de=
coration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:curren=
tcolor">
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;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;tex=
t-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-d=
ecoration:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcol=
or">
                                        <div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Times-Roman">On
                                          Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=
=AFAM
                                          Jim B via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:Times-Roman">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                                          wrote:<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;f=
ont-family:Times-Roman;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
                                          <div style=3D"font-family:Times-R=
oman"><font size=3D"4" style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
">I=E2=80=99ve been
                                              reading=C2=A0about cooling
                                              issues with tigers for
                                              more that a decade (much
                                              less than some reading
                                              this) blocking horn holes,
                                              pusher fans, and shrouds
                                              etc etc. Entire studies
                                              have been done on=C2=A0this
                                              issue. Just check STOA,
                                              CAT or any club site. All
                                              good reads! I think the
                                              first place to start
                                              is=C2=A0knowing what the
                                              actual=C2=A0engine team reall=
y
                                              is. We all know that the
                                              original temp guage can be
                                              off. The other thing is:
                                              as a dyed in the wool ford
                                              guy, 185 degrees is the
                                              optimal engine temp. But,
                                              Ford engines can get to
                                              195-200 degrees easily and
                                              that is not=C2=A0necessarily =
a
                                              bad thing. Yes, I put a
                                              pusher in mine only
                                              because I had one. I=E2=80=99=
m not
                                              really sure is
                                              does=C2=A0anything. My=C2=A0o=
riginal
                                              guage can show 225-230 on
                                              =C2=A0a hot day (humidity pla=
ys
                                              a bitg role) but never has
                                              pucked out fluid. The
                                              design of the should is
                                              an=C2=A0issue. It lets hot ai=
r
                                              from the engine
                                              compartment to get under
                                              the radiator. Many, many,
                                              =E2=80=98fixes=E2=80=99 that =
can be=C2=A0done.
                                              However, on a hot low
                                              humidity day.. well good
                                              luck. JMO</font>
                                            <div style=3D"font-family:Times=
-Roman">
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es-Roman"><br>
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tyle=3D"font-family:Times-Roman">
                                                  <div style=3D"font-family=
:Times-Roman">On Jul 18, 2023,
                                                    at 8:40 PM, Allan
                                                    Ballard &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"=
font-family:Times-Roman">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <div style=3D"font-family=
:Times-Roman"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-styl=
e:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transfo=
rm:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;text-decor=
ation-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;float:none;display:inl=
ine">The
                                                      article includes
                                                      several
                                                      suggestions.</span>
                                                    <div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacin=
g:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
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r:currentcolor"><br>
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ly:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacin=
g:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
g:0px;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-colo=
r:currentcolor">One
                                                      of them is to seal
                                                      the missing
                                                      section of the
                                                      stock fan shroud
                                                      at the bottom.</div>
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ly:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacin=
g:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
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r:currentcolor"><br>
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                                                      list member
                                                      offered a piece he
                                                      fabricated.</div>
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r:currentcolor">I
                                                      obtained one and
                                                      here are a couple
                                                      of pictures. I
                                                      hope to fit it
                                                      later this year.</div=
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r:currentcolor">Even
                                                      a few degrees of
                                                      cooling will be
                                                      worth the effort.</di=
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"cite" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica">On
                                                          Jul 18, 2023,
                                                          at 10:57 PM,
                                                          Jay Laifman
                                                          &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
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                                                        <div dir=3D"ltr" st=
yle=3D"font-family:Helvetica">=EF=BB=BF
                                                          <div dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica">Have
                                                          you looked at
                                                          this cooling
                                                          suggestions? =C2=
=A0<a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-Steve=
LaifmanValance1.asp" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-famil=
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t-family:Helvetica"><br>
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                                                          <div style=3D"fon=
t-family:Helvetica">It works
                                                          great in
                                                          Southern
                                                          California
                                                          heat.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div style=3D"fon=
t-family:Helvetica">
                                                          <div dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica">On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at
                                                          3:42=E2=80=AFPM J=
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                                                          Brown &lt;<a href=
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                                                          <div dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica">My
                                                          Tiger can&#39;t
                                                          keep up with
                                                          this 100
                                                          degree weather
                                                          in Texas.=C2=A0
                                                          I&#39;ve read
                                                          through the
                                                          article by
                                                          Tiger Tom and
                                                          Chuck King and
                                                          I will make
                                                          some of the
                                                          suggested
                                                          modifications.=C2=
=A0
                                                          They listed
                                                          two different
                                                          pusher
                                                          electric fans
                                                          in the article
                                                          but both of
                                                          them are no
                                                          longer
                                                          available.
                                                          <div style=3D"fon=
t-family:Helvetica"><br>
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                                                          <div style=3D"fon=
t-family:Helvetica">So, has
                                                          anybody
                                                          recently
                                                          installed a
                                                          pusher fan?=C2=A0
                                                          If so, what
                                                          part numbers?</di=
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Lynn, Stock radiator? And, what fan?

In a message dated 7/20/2023 5:37:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cars@wt-inc.=
com writes:=C2=A0

With a proper full shroud it would work well.=C2=A0 Probably be enough with=
 Horn block offs.

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I am running a 347 stroker, 565 ish HP and full air conditioning and never =
get over 185-195 degrees with A/C in 100 degree heat.=C2=A0 Can do it all d=
ay.

=C2=A0

Lynn

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From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of M Lafayette via T=
igers
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2023 12:13 PM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 143

=C2=A0

Mark

In a message dated 7/20/2023 1:58:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  tigers@auto=
x.team.net writes:

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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 1. Purchased and installed Sunbeam Specialties (=
SS) gloss black radiator overflow tank, missing from car.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2. Purchased and installed overflow ta=
nk straps from Alexander Washick=C2=[email-masked] which are powder co=
ated, missing from car.
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of your radiator surface and  moves 3,000 cfm=E2=80=99s as recommended for =
small block V-8 motors. Items 8 and 9 could be in reverse order and step 9 =
will not necessary if you purchase the Griffin Tiger package, your call.

=C2=A0Regards

Joel Martin

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et <[email-masked]> wrote:

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Today's Topics:

Joe, I did an article for Tigers United, that describes with photographs wh=
at I did for the full fans shroud.=20

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nd 250 degrees at that point.=C2=A0=C2=A0=20

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Joe Brown

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I think michael hit the nail on the head.=C2=A0 first need to know is it ov=
erheating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed?=20

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ou want.=C2=A0 also need a fan shroud.=20

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.. well good luck. JMO=20

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The article includes several suggestions.=20

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Allan Ballard

Mk1a Tiger

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Sent from my iPhone

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Have you looked at this cooling suggestions? =C2=A0http://tigersunited.com/=
techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanValance1.asp=20

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My Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in Texas.=C2=A0 I've re=
ad through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I will make some of =
the suggested modifications.=C2=A0 They listed two different pusher electri=
c fans in the article but both of them are no longer available.=20

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Joe Brown

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<div class=3D"userEdit" style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;=
 font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;"><span style=3D"color: #000000; font-styl=
e: normal; font-weight: bold;">Lynn, Stock radiator? And, what fan?<br></sp=
an></div>
<br>In a message dated 7/20/2023 5:37:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cars@wt-=
inc.com writes:
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv2557846792WordSection1">
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal">With a proper full shroud it would work=
 well.&nbsp; Probably be enough with Horn block offs.</p>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal">I am running a 347 stroker, 565 ish HP =
and full air conditioning and never get over 185-195 degrees with A/C in 10=
0 degree heat.&nbsp; Can do it all day.</p>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal">Lynn</p>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt=
 0in 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Tigers &lt;tiger=
[email-masked]&gt; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>M Lafayette via =
Tigers<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, July 20, 2023 12:13 PM<br><stron=
g>To:</strong> [email-masked]; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer">[email-masked]</a=
><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 14=
3</p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 14.0p=
t; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;">In speaking to a rep. from a fan=
 company years ago, he mentioned that a "puller" elect. fan would cool eith=
er 2 or 3 times (can't remember the number) as well as a "pusher" elect. fa=
n.&nbsp; Makes sense since modern cars seems to use puller elctric's.&nbsp;=
 Has anyone tried just one good elect. puller on a Tiger?</span></strong></=
p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 14.0p=
t; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;">Mark</span></strong></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><br>In a message dated 7/20/2023 1:58:2=
9 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer"> [email-masked]</a>=
 writes:</p>
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0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left: 3.75pt; margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5=
.0pt;">
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<p>As I was reading your "journey" when you got to the Flex-a-Lite fan (ini=
tial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people seem to have succe=
ss with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a particular Derale fan.&nbsp; I=
 can see where a pusher fan might impede airflow of a mechanical puller fan=
 but not the other way where a puller fan impedes the flow of a pusher fan.=
 That said given the "Flex" aspect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder if it cr=
eates a "wall of wind" and was causing the overheating issue. Without smoke=
 to see the flow of air movement I'm always baffled by things that blow ove=
r - and those that don't, leaves that deposit in one area of the yard - and=
 not another. So, whatever the flex fan was doing it seems germane to the i=
tself as others have not had the same issue with the recommended fans and a=
 pusher fan. I won't ask if the fan was installed backwards (you seen way s=
marter than that) but does the possibility exist that the fan design was fo=
r counter rotation? With serpentine belts in cars these days the rotation o=
f the water pump is often opposite of earlier engines of the same design. T=
he good news is that you found a solution to your problem. Enjoy the ride.<=
/p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal">On 7/20/2023 7:47 AM, Joel Martin via T=
igers wrote:</p>
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<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12=
.0pt; font-family: New serif;">Tiger Running hot &ndash; Shotgun Approach a=
fter time of trying baby steps.</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12=
.0pt; font-family: New serif;">After about a year of struggling with car ru=
nning hot at idle with the hood down, Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I=
 took drastic steps.&nbsp; I have been driving the car during the last year=
 only on back roads with not much chance of traffic lights and traffic.&nbs=
p; I live in rural NC outside of Pinehurst.</span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: New serif;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bloody yahoo mail format=
ting ruined numbering copied from MS Word, so please ignore.&nbsp; </span><=
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: New serif;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1. Purchased and installed S=
unbeam Specialties (SS) gloss black radiator overflow tank, missing from ca=
r.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: New serif;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. Purchased and i=
nstalled overflow tank straps from <span class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1d=
frtlirtlidzssg">Alexander Washick</span><span class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f6=
8ac1uncz1vrpvf">&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">[email-masked]</a> which are powd=
er coated</span>, missing from car.</span></p>
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2ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New =
serif;">Purchased and installed undersize water pump pulley from </span></s=
pan><span class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1dfrtlirtlidzssg"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: serif;">Robert Straghan</span></span><span =
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t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">&lt;[email-masked]&g=
t;</a> scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black</span></span></li>
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2ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New =
serif;">Purchased and installed horn hole block plates from </span></span><=
span class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1dfrtlirtlidzssg"><span style=3D"font-=
size: 12.0pt; font-family: serif;">Don Lutjen</span></span><span class=3D"y=
iv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-f=
amily: serif;">&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> scu=
ffed, primed and painted semi gloss black.</span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv255784679=
2ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New =
serif;">Purchased and installed new taller custom aluminum cross flow side =
tank radiator from Griffin Radiator.</span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv255784679=
2ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New =
serif;">Purchased and installed new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painted=
 Ford dark blue to match engine replacing SS water pump, pressed hub to lin=
e up.</span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv255784679=
2ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New =
serif;">Modified the mechanical fan spacer so that front of fan is 1&rdquo;=
 from radiator.</span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv255784679=
2ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New =
serif;">Mechanical fan remains Flex-a-Lite 14&rdquo; nylon 6 blade fan.</sp=
an></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv255784679=
2ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New =
serif;">Purchased and installed new SS lower radiator and overflow to radia=
tor hoses.</span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv255784679=
2ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New =
serif;">New top radiator hose from local source, as SS hose would not fit t=
aller radiator.</span></span></li>
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2ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New =
serif;">New fan belt.</span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv255784679=
2ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New =
serif;">Purchased and refurbished original Tiger fan shroud which would not=
 fit as I did not want to cut a original shroud top mounting bracket to fit=
 my taller radiator.&nbsp; Striped, primed and painted used shroud semi glo=
ss black &ndash; sitting on shelf.</span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv255784679=
2ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New =
serif;">Installed 160 degree thermostat from 180.&nbsp; Could not find 170 =
degree.&nbsp; If anyone has a part number and supplier for a 170-degree the=
rmostat, please forward.</span></span></li>
</ol>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv2557846792=
ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New s=
erif;">So at this point I do not have a fan shroud &ndash; unless make up a=
 custom.&nbsp; Other changes could make is front air dam and block front cr=
oss member to bottom of radiator spacing but for now I am going to see how =
things play out this summer.</span></span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv2557846792=
ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New s=
erif;">&nbsp;Ok after all the above I was still not satisfied with watching=
 the temperature gauge increase while at idle or in stop and go traffic.&nb=
sp; Goal was to keep the temperature at ALL times between 180 and 190 degre=
es whether driving or at idle.</span></span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv2557846792=
ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New s=
erif;">&nbsp;The following changes have been made since the above changes 1=
-13 after trial period of 6 months or so.</span></span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv2557846792=
ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New s=
erif;">&nbsp;The Flow Kooler water pump started leaking so I purchased the =
SS water pump and installed it and drove for a month or so.&nbsp; Install e=
rror on the Flow Kooler water pump gasket turned out to be the problem.&nbs=
p; The SS water pump actually raised idle temps 2-3 degrees so I would late=
r reinstall the Flow Kooler with a new gasket.</span></span></p>
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"1">
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv255784679=
2ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New =
serif;">Installed a couple of 12&rdquo; electric pusher fans I had in the g=
arage and wired a manual off/on switch under the dash with a relay.&nbsp; N=
ot much help or change in idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go t=
raffic.</span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv255784679=
2ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New =
serif;">Built and installed a custom fan shroud.&nbsp; Remember I have an o=
versize Griffin radiator.&nbsp; This change resulted in idle temp. drop by =
maybe 2-3 degrees.&nbsp; Goal not achieve at this point but getting better.=
</span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv255784679=
2ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New =
serif;">I then discussed issue with Flex-a-lite technical services hot line=
 (multiple times) regarding their electric pusher fan line.</span></span></=
li>
</ol>
<ol start=3D"3" type=3D"1">
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"a">
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv255784679=
2ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New =
serif;">The rule of thumb they recommend:&nbsp; Electric fans of either the=
 pusher or puller type should be that the electric fan should cover 70% of =
the radiator surface.&nbsp; Mine came out to 69.5% coverage.</span></span><=
/li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv255784679=
2ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New =
serif;">Small block V-8 engines recommendation is&nbsp; 3,000 CFM.</span></=
span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv255784679=
2ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New =
serif;">Flex - a- Lite had only 1 fan that met these specifications.</span>=
</span></li>
</ol>
</ol>
<table class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormalTable" style=3D"width: 369.75pt;" bor=
der=3D"0" width=3D"493" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style=3D"width: 2.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" width=3D"3">
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal">&nbsp;</p>
</td>
<td style=3D"width: 367.25pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" valign=3D"top" wid=
th=3D"490">
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-=
size: 9.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;"><a href=3D"https://www=
.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noope=
ner noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: black;">FLX-105391</span></a></span><=
/strong><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: bl=
ack;"><br>Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, 16 in. Diameter, 3,000 c=
fm, Black, 20 amps,&nbsp; <br>(Mfr. #: 239) </span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<ol start=3D"4" type=3D"1">
<ol start=3D"4" type=3D"a">
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv255784679=
2ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New =
serif;">Also purchased temp probe and relay from Flex &ndash; a Lite which =
is adjustable so you can set when the fan comes on.&nbsp; Off is 10 degrees=
 from on temp and is NOT adjustable.</span></span></li>
</ol>
</ol>
<table class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormalTable" style=3D"width: 6.25in;" borde=
r=3D"0" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style=3D"width: 7.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" width=3D"10">
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal">&nbsp;</p>
</td>
<td style=3D"width: 148.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" valign=3D"top" widt=
h=3D"198">
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-=
size: 9.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;"><a href=3D"https://www=
.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-121281" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noope=
ner noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: black;">FLX-121281</span></a></span><=
/strong><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: bl=
ack;"><br>Fan Control, Compact, Adjustable, Thread-in Probe, Single Fan, Ki=
t <br>(Mfr. #: 33095) </span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1=
uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New serif;">&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; e. Also purchased =
temperature probe adapter and installed in the upper radiator hose.</span><=
/span></p>
</div>
<table class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormalTable" style=3D"width: 6.25in;" borde=
r=3D"0" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style=3D"width: 7.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" width=3D"10">
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal">&nbsp;</p>
</td>
<td style=3D"width: 148.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" valign=3D"top" widt=
h=3D"198">
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-=
size: 9.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;"><a href=3D"https://www=
.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-107078" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noope=
ner noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: black;">FLX-107078</span></a></span><=
/strong><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: bl=
ack;"><br>Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2 in. Hose, Has Two 1/4=
 in. NPT Ports, Includes One Plug, Each <br>(Mfr. #: 32082) </span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"margin-left: .75in;=
"><span class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 12.0pt; font-family: New serif;">The idea was to run the stock temp gau=
ge probe&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; into the adapter and keep my mechanical te=
mperature gauge in place in the manifold to verify stock gauge was pretty a=
ccurate.&nbsp; The &frac14; NPT port would not handle the stock probe and I=
 could not find 1/4 probe with the correct ohms for the stock gauge, so man=
ual temp gauge is still in place which I believe is accurate.</span></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv2557846792=
ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New s=
erif;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;f.&nbsp; Goal still not achieved</span></span></p>
<ol start=3D"5" type=3D"1">
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"color: black;"><sp=
an class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 1=
2.0pt; font-family: New serif; color: windowtext;">Flex - a - Lite then off=
ered the following advice &ndash; &ldquo;</span></span><span style=3D"font-=
size: 12.0pt; font-family: serif;">You typically only need one or the other=
. If you have a mechanical fan and just want extra cooling in stop and go t=
raffic, I suggest you use a much smaller electric fan. But using both a mec=
hanical and this bigger electric fan will probably cause some disruption.&r=
dquo;&nbsp; The two smaller electric fans I used did not work in my case, s=
o advice about smaller electric fan in conjunction with mechanical water pu=
mp fan did not work in my particular car.</span></li>
</ol>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12=
.0pt; font-family: New serif;">&nbsp;<span style=3D"color: black;">Plan &he=
llip;. Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump with new gasket.</span></span=
></p>
<ol start=3D"5" type=3D"1">
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"a">
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 1=
2.0pt; font-family: New serif; color: black;">Removed the mechanical fan fr=
om the water pump and the 1&rdquo; spacer.&nbsp; Finally success!&nbsp; Tem=
p stays between 176 and 190 at ALL times regardless of ambient temperature =
and traffic conditions. So, in my case, the mechanical fan in conjunction w=
ith the electric fan was causing air flow disruption.</span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 1=
2.0pt; font-family: New serif; color: black;">&nbsp;The temp at speed above=
 35 mph, the car runs around 176 degrees with 160 degree thermostat in temp=
s 90 degrees and less.&nbsp; About 183 in temperatures above 90, so not a i=
ssue. I might try out the 180 degree thermostat at some point, 170 if I cou=
ld find one might be optimum for my car.&nbsp; The only down side for me is=
 the electric fan is noisy when running and volts on volt gauge drops aroun=
d &frac12; - &frac34;- volt when the fan comes on.. The battery volts dropp=
ing are due to fan drawing 20 amps. This has not been a issue with lights o=
n or off. I have a alternator and not the generator so with generator cars,=
 this might be an issue.&nbsp; Now I cannot hear the electric fan <strong>a=
t all</strong> inside the car but outside, it is noisy when running.&nbsp; =
Headers, 2.25" exhaust pipes with Flow Master series 40 mufflers.&nbsp; I w=
onder why I cannot hear fan running.</span></li>
</ol>
</ol>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12=
.0pt; font-family: New serif; color: black;">&nbsp;So you see I have tried =
almost all recommended suggestions except lower shroud addition and air dam=
 to direct airflow.</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12=
.0pt; font-family: New serif; color: black;">&nbsp;Every car reacts differe=
ntly to changes and you have to keep trying different approaches that might=
 work for your car and temperature\humidity of the area you reside.</span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12=
.0pt; font-family: New serif; color: black;">&nbsp;What changes I have made=
 to me that had the biggest result and what would I try again in what order=
 to minimize cost, effort and work involved.</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: New serif; color: black;">Yahoo formatting again. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: New serif; color: black;">Test temp gauge and sender to ensure read=
ing properly.</span></p>
</div>
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"1">
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"color: black;"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New serif;">Ensure radiator in =
good working order.</span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"color: black;"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New serif;">Change thermostat f=
rom 180 to 170 then 160.</span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"color: black;"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New serif;">Install horn block =
off plates, minimal cost and about 1 hour to install.</span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"color: black;"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New serif;">Fan shroud if you d=
o not have one, 2-3 degrees improvement in my case, custom made.&nbsp; Poss=
ible making of the lower portion of the shroud as well, which I have not do=
ne.</span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"color: black;"><sp=
an class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 1=
2.0pt; font-family: New serif; color: windowtext;">Undersize water pump pul=
ley and at same time, try a different mechanical fan and ensure fan is 1&rd=
quo; from radiator.</span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"color: black;"><sp=
an class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 1=
2.0pt; font-family: New serif; color: windowtext;">Flow Kooler water pump B=
RA-1680, </span></span><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: serif=
;">2-3 degrees improvement in my case</span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"color: black;"><sp=
an class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 1=
2.0pt; font-family: New serif; color: windowtext;">New Griffin radiator.&nb=
sp; They sell a package for the Tiger with radiator, electric fan and shrou=
d.&nbsp; Remember my radiator is a custom oversize radiator install by prev=
ious owner and the stock Griffin radiator or package would not work in my c=
ase but I have installed a new custom Griffin radiator.</span></span></li>
<li class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"color: black;"><sp=
an class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 1=
2.0pt; font-family: New serif; color: windowtext;">Remove mechanical fan an=
d install electric pusher fan that covers 70% of your radiator surface </sp=
an></span><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; color: windowtext;">and=
 </span> </strong><span class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New serif; color: windowtext;">mov=
es 3,000 cfm&rsquo;s as recommended for small block V-8 motors. Items 8 and=
 9 could be in reverse order and step 9 will not necessary if you purchase =
the Griffin Tiger package, your call.</span></span></li>
</ol>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12=
.0pt; font-family: New serif; color: black;">&nbsp;So you see I have tried =
almost all recommended suggestions except lower shroud addition and air dam=
 to direct air flow and have finally met my goal of keeping the temperature=
 between 180 to 190 degrees in all driving conditions.&nbsp; I hope my tria=
ls and findings will help you moving forward.&nbsp; Any questions, please a=
sk.</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv2557846792=
ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New s=
erif;">&nbsp;Regards</span></span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv2557846792=
ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: New s=
erif;">Joel Martin</span></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tec=
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 noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;=
">On Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown <u><span style=3D"color: blue;">&=
lt;[email-masked]&gt;</span></u> wrote:</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tec=
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tec=
htips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow=
 noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;=
">Thanks for all of the replies.&nbsp; I have a mostly stock engine (with E=
delbrock intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator.&nbsp; I have a temperature =
gauge mounted on the intake and the engine seems to run a little over 200 a=
t idle but I haven't had any problems while driving the car.&nbsp; My probl=
em right now is that I took the car out one afternoon when the temperature =
was over 100 degrees and when I pulled into the garage and shut the engine =
off it puked some water onto the floor.&nbsp; The temp gauge was showing ar=
ound 250 degrees at that point.&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></a></span></p>
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family: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tec=
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">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tec=
htips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow=
 noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;=
">I already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some horn =
opening covers today.&nbsp; I will also look at blocking off the area below=
 the radiator.&nbsp; I have read all of the articles that people have refer=
red to and I believe I have an airflow problem at low speeds.&nbsp; So I wa=
s just looking for pusher fan recommendations at this point.&nbsp; &nbsp;</=
span></a></span></p>
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">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tec=
htips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow=
 noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;=
">The best advice is to probably not drive in 100+ degree weather.</span></=
a></span></p>
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family: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tec=
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tec=
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">Thanks,</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tec=
htips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow=
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">Joe Brown</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tec=
htips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow=
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"> &nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tec=
htips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow=
 noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;=
">On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers &lt;<u><=
span style=3D"color: blue;">[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</sp=
an></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tec=
htips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow=
 noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;=
">I made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the stock tig=
er, fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air comes thr=
ough the radiator down towards the ground and circles back through the radi=
ator again. So essentially you're just recycling hot air from your own radi=
ator.&nbsp; It works.&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tec=
htips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow=
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tec=
htips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow=
 noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;=
">On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd &lt;<u><span style=3D"color: blu=
e;">[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span></p>
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family: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tec=
htips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow=
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"> &nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-=
family: serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">I t=
hink michael hit the nail on the head.&nbsp; first need to know is it overh=
eating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed? </span></a></span></p>
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family: serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">&nb=
sp;</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-=
family: serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">a p=
usher fan will only help at very low speed or when stopped.&nbsp; and spal =
is the go to brand.&nbsp; &nbsp;still need the horn holes and gap between c=
ross member and rad blocked.&nbsp; cardboard and zip ties does the trick qu=
ickly and can be replaced with a more permanent&nbsp;solution later if you =
want.&nbsp; also need a fan shroud. </span></a></span></p>
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family: serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">&nb=
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family: serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">per=
sonally i've never needed the electric pusher fan because i have a small 13=
" flex fan on the water pump pulley.&nbsp; that creates enough pull through=
 the radiator at idle.</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-=
family: serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">&nb=
sp;</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-=
family: serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">if =
its&nbsp;overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another problem entirel=
y and there are a variety&nbsp;of other things to check.</span></a></span><=
/p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-=
family: serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">&nb=
sp;</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-=
family: serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">in =
my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain conditions&nbsp;(slowing=
 down after running fast in really high ambient temps above a particular al=
titude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem.&nbsp; there are a bu=
nch of things i could do there, most importantly a carb heat shield, but i'=
ve&nbsp;only suffered from it once.</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-=
family: serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">&nb=
sp;</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-=
family: serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">one=
 thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling issues in the tiger ove=
r the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hose.&nbsp; at lea=
st you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with thermostat o=
r water pump issues and if you're used to how it should look, even how bloc=
ked the radiator is.</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-=
family: serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">&nb=
sp;</span></a></span></p>
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family: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tec=
htips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow=
 noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;=
"> &nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-=
family: serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">On =
Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers &lt;<u><span style=3D=
"color: blue;">[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span=
></p>
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g: 0in 0in 0in 6.0pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;">
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 18.0pt; font-=
family: serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">I&r=
squo;ve been reading&nbsp;about cooling issues with tigers for more that a =
decade (much less than some reading this) blocking horn holes, pusher fans,=
 and shrouds etc etc. Entire studies have been done on&nbsp;this issue. Jus=
t check STOA, CAT or any club site. All good reads! I think the first place=
 to start is&nbsp;knowing what the actual&nbsp;engine team really is. We al=
l know that the original temp guage can be off. The other thing is: as a dy=
ed in the wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal engine temp. But, Ford =
engines can get to 195-200 degrees easily and that is not&nbsp;necessarily =
a bad thing. Yes, I put a pusher in mine only because I had one. I&rsquo;m =
not really sure is does&nbsp;anything. My&nbsp;original guage can show 225-=
230 on &nbsp;a hot day (humidity plays a bitg role) but never has pucked ou=
t fluid. The design of the should is an&nbsp;issue. It lets hot air from th=
e engine compartment to get under the radiator. Many, many, &lsquo;fixes&rs=
quo; that can be&nbsp;done. However, on a hot low humidity day.. well good =
luck. JMO</span> </a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-=
family: serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"> &n=
bsp;</span></a></span></p>
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family: serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">On =
Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard &lt;<u><span style=3D"color: blue;"=
>[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span></p>
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family: serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"> &n=
bsp;</span></a></span></p>
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amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>The article includes several suggestions.</span> </a></span></p>
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amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-f=
amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>One of them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan shroud at the =
bottom.</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-f=
amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-f=
amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>A list member offered a piece he fabricated.</span></a></span></p>
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amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-f=
amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>I obtained one and here are a couple of pictures. I hope to fit it later t=
his year.</span></a></span></p>
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amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-f=
amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>Even a few degrees of cooling will be worth the effort.</span></a></span><=
/p>
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amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-f=
amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>Allan Ballard</span></a></span></p>
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amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>Mk1a Tiger</span></a></span></p>
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amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
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style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a hre=
f=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color:=
 #26282a; text-decoration: none;">&lt;image0.jpeg&gt;&lt;image1.jpeg&gt;</s=
pan></a></span></p>
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amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>Sent from my iPhone</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-f=
amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
> &nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;">
<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a hre=
f=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color:=
 #26282a; text-decoration: none;">On Jul 18, 2023, at 10:57 PM, Jay Laifman=
 &lt;<u><span style=3D"color: blue;">[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; w=
rote:</span></a></span></p>
</blockquote>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-f=
amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>Have you looked at this cooling suggestions? &nbsp;<u><span style=3D"color=
: blue;">http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifm=
anValance1.asp</span></u> </span></a></span></p>
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amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-f=
amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>It works great in Southern California heat.</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-f=
amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
> &nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-f=
amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:42=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown &lt;<u><span style=3D"co=
lor: blue;">[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span></=
p>
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<p class=3D"yiv2557846792MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-f=
amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>My Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in Texas.&nbsp; I've r=
ead through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I will make some of=
 the suggested modifications.&nbsp; They listed two different pusher electr=
ic fans in the article but both of them are no longer available. </span></a=
></span></p>
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amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
tips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
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amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
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noopener noreferrer"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>So, has anybody recently installed a pusher fan?&nbsp; If so, what part nu=
mbers?</span></a></span></p>
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amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
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amily: sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/tech=
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>Thanks,</span></a></span></p>
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>Joe Brown</span></a></span></p>
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Wow Lynn!  565HP AND AC, wow.
Tell us more about your AC setup.
TIA,
Gary
=20

> On 07/20/2023 2:36 PM PDT Cars via Tigers <[email-masked]> wrote:
> =20
> =20
>=20
> With a proper full shroud it would work well.  Probably be enough with Ho=
rn block offs.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> I am running a 347 stroker, 565 ish HP and full air conditioning and neve=
r get over 185-195 degrees with A/C in 100 degree heat.  Can do it all day.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Lynn
>=20
> =20
>=20
> From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of M Lafayette via=
 Tigers
> In speaking to a rep. from a fan company years ago, he mentioned that a "=
puller" elect. fan would cool either 2 or 3 times (can't remember the numbe=
r) as well as a "pusher" elect. fan.  Makes sense since modern cars seems t=
o use puller elctric's.  Has anyone tried just one good elect. puller on a =
Tiger?
>=20
> Mark
>=20
>=20
> In a message dated 7/20/2023 1:58:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tigers@aut=
ox.team.net mailto:[email-masked] writes:
>=20
> =20
>=20
> >=20
> > As I was reading your "journey" when you got to the Flex-a-Lite fan (in=
itial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people seem to have succ=
ess with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a particular Derale fan.  I can=
 see where a pusher fan might impede airflow of a mechanical puller fan but=
 not the other way where a puller fan impedes the flow of a pusher fan. Tha=
t said given the "Flex" aspect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder if it create=
s a "wall of wind" and was causing the overheating issue. Without smoke to =
see the flow of air movement I'm always baffled by things that blow over - =
and those that don't, leaves that deposit in one area of the yard - and not=
 another. So, whatever the flex fan was doing it seems germane to the itsel=
f as others have not had the same issue with the recommended fans and a pus=
her fan. I won't ask if the fan was installed backwards (you seen way smart=
er than that) but does the possibility exist that the fan design was for co=
unter rotation? With serpentine belts in cars these days the rotation of th=
e water pump is often opposite of earlier engines of the same design. The g=
ood news is that you found a solution to your problem. Enjoy the ride.
> > > Tiger Running hot =E2=80=93 Shotgun Approach after time of trying bab=
y steps.
> > >=20
> > > After about a year of struggling with car running hot at idle with th=
e hood down, Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I took drastic steps.  I h=
ave been driving the car during the last year only on back roads with not m=
uch chance of traffic lights and traffic.  I live in rural NC outside of Pi=
nehurst.
> > >=20
> > >       Bloody yahoo mail formatting ruined numbering copied from MS Wo=
rd, so please ignore.=20
> > >=20
> > >        1. Purchased and installed Sunbeam Specialties (SS) gloss blac=
k radiator overflow tank, missing from car.
> > >=20
> > >        2. Purchased and installed overflow tank straps from Alexander=
 Washick [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] which are powder coated=
, missing from car.
> > >=20
> > > 1. Purchased and installed undersize water pump pulley from Robert St=
raghan <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked] scuffed, primed and=
 painted semi gloss black
> > > 2. Purchased and installed horn hole block plates from Don Lutjen <dl=
[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked] scuffed, primed and painted s=
emi gloss black.
> > > 3. Purchased and installed new taller custom aluminum cross flow side=
> > > 4. Purchased and installed new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painte=
d Ford dark blue to match engine replacing SS water pump, pressed hub to li=
ne up.
> > > 5. Modified the mechanical fan spacer so that front of fan is 1=E2=80=
=9D from radiator.
> > > 7. Purchased and installed new SS lower radiator and overflow to radi=
ator hoses.
> > > 8. New top radiator hose from local source, as SS hose would not fit =
taller radiator.
> > > 9. New fan belt.
> > > 10. Purchased and refurbished original Tiger fan shroud which would n=
ot fit as I did not want to cut a original shroud top mounting bracket to f=
it my taller radiator.  Striped, primed and painted used shroud semi gloss =
black =E2=80=93 sitting on shelf.
> > > 11. Installed 160 degree thermostat from 180.  Could not find 170 deg=
ree.  If anyone has a part number and supplier for a 170-degree thermostat,=
 please forward.
> > >=20
> > > So at this point I do not have a fan shroud =E2=80=93 unless make up =
a custom.  Other changes could make is front air dam and block front cross =
member to bottom of radiator spacing but for now I am going to see how thin=
gs play out this summer.
> > >=20
> > >  Ok after all the above I was still not satisfied with watching the t=
emperature gauge increase while at idle or in stop and go traffic.  Goal wa=
s to keep the temperature at ALL times between 180 and 190 degrees whether =
driving or at idle.
> > >=20
> > >  The following changes have been made since the above changes 1-13 af=
ter trial period of 6 months or so.
> > >=20
> > >  The Flow Kooler water pump started leaking so I purchased the SS wat=
er pump and installed it and drove for a month or so.  Install error on the=
 Flow Kooler water pump gasket turned out to be the problem.  The SS water =
pump actually raised idle temps 2-3 degrees so I would later reinstall the =
Flow Kooler with a new gasket.
> > >=20
> > > 1. Installed a couple of 12=E2=80=9D electric pusher fans I had in th=
e garage and wired a manual off/on switch under the dash with a relay.  Not=
 much help or change in idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go tra=
ffic.
> > > 2. Built and installed a custom fan shroud.  Remember I have an overs=
ize Griffin radiator.  This change resulted in idle temp. drop by maybe 2-3=
 degrees.  Goal not achieve at this point but getting better.
> > > 3. I then discussed issue with Flex-a-lite technical services hot lin=
e (multiple times) regarding their electric pusher fan line.
> > > 1. The rule of thumb they recommend:  Electric fans of either the pus=
her or puller type should be that the electric fan should cover 70% of the =
radiator surface.  Mine came out to 69.5% coverage.
> > > FLX-105391 https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391
> > > Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, 16 in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm, =
Black, 20 amps,=20
> > > (Mfr. #: 239)
> > >=20
> > > 1. Also purchased temp probe and relay from Flex =E2=80=93 a Lite whi=
ch is adjustable so you can set when the fan comes on.  Off is 10 degrees f=
rom on temp and is NOT adjustable.
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > FLX-121281 https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-121281
> > >            e. Also purchased temperature probe adapter and installed =
in the upper radiator hose.
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > FLX-107078 https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-107078
> > > Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2 in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in.=
> > > (Mfr. #: 32082)
> > >=20
> > > The idea was to run the stock temp gauge probe     into the adapter a=
nd keep my mechanical temperature gauge in place in the manifold to verify =
stock gauge was pretty accurate.  The =C2=BC NPT port would not handle the =
stock probe and I could not find 1/4 probe with the correct ohms for the st=
ock gauge, so manual temp gauge is still in place which I believe is accura=
te.
> > > 1. Flex - a - Lite then offered the following advice =E2=80=93 =E2=80=
=9CYou typically only need one or the other. If you have a mechanical fan a=
nd just want extra cooling in stop and go traffic, I suggest you use a much=
 smaller electric fan. But using both a mechanical and this bigger electric=
 fan will probably cause some disruption.=E2=80=9D  The two smaller electri=
c fans I used did not work in my case, so advice about smaller electric fan=
 in conjunction with mechanical water pump fan did not work in my particula=
r car.
> > >=20
> > >  Plan =E2=80=A6. Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump with new gask=
et.
> > >=20
> > > 1. Removed the mechanical fan from the water pump and the 1=E2=80=9D =
spacer.  Finally success!  Temp stays between 176 and 190 at ALL times rega=
rdless of ambient temperature and traffic conditions. So, in my case, the m=
echanical fan in conjunction with the electric fan was causing air flow dis=
ruption.
> > > 2.  The temp at speed above 35 mph, the car runs around 176 degrees w=
ith 160 degree thermostat in temps 90 degrees and less.  About 183 in tempe=
ratures above 90, so not a issue. I might try out the 180 degree thermostat=
 at some point, 170 if I could find one might be optimum for my car.  The o=
nly down side for me is the electric fan is noisy when running and volts on=
 volt gauge drops around =C2=BD - =C2=BE- volt when the fan comes on.. The =
battery volts dropping are due to fan drawing 20 amps. This has not been a =
issue with lights on or off. I have a alternator and not the generator so w=
ith generator cars, this might be an issue.  Now I cannot hear the electric=
 fan at all inside the car but outside, it is noisy when running.  Headers,=
 2.25" exhaust pipes with Flow Master series 40 mufflers.  I wonder why I c=
annot hear fan running.
> > >=20
> > >  So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except lo=
wer shroud addition and air dam to direct airflow.
> > >=20
> > >  Every car reacts differently to changes and you have to keep trying =
different approaches that might work for your car and temperature\humidity =
of the area you reside.
> > >=20
> > >  What changes I have made to me that had the biggest result and what =
would I try again in what order to minimize cost, effort and work involved.
> > > 3. Install horn block off plates, minimal cost and about 1 hour to in=
stall.
> > > 4. Fan shroud if you do not have one, 2-3 degrees improvement in my c=
ase, custom made.  Possible making of the lower portion of the shroud as we=
ll, which I have not done.
> > > 5. Undersize water pump pulley and at same time, try a different mech=
anical fan and ensure fan is 1=E2=80=9D from radiator.
> > > 6. Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680, 2-3 degrees improvement in my cas=
e
> > > 7. New Griffin radiator.  They sell a package for the Tiger with radi=
ator, electric fan and shroud.  Remember my radiator is a custom oversize r=
adiator install by previous owner and the stock Griffin radiator or package=
 would not work in my case but I have installed a new custom Griffin radiat=
or.
> > > 8. Remove mechanical fan and install electric pusher fan that covers =
70% of your radiator surface and moves 3,000 cfm=E2=80=99s as recommended f=
or small block V-8 motors. Items 8 and 9 could be in reverse order and step=
 9 will not necessary if you purchase the Griffin Tiger package, your call.
> > >=20
> > >  So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except lo=
wer shroud addition and air dam to direct air flow and have finally met my =
goal of keeping the temperature between 180 to 190 degrees in all driving c=
onditions.  I hope my trials and findings will help you moving forward.  An=
y questions, please ask.
> > >=20
> > >  Regards
> > >=20
> > > Joel Martin
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 09:09:34 PM EDT, tigers-request@autox.=
team.net mailto:[email-masked] <[email-masked]=
t> mailto:[email-masked] wrote:
> > >     [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > >     [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]=
t
> > >     [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > Joe, I did an article for Tigers United, that describes with photogra=
phs what I did for the full fans shroud.
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > TigersUnited.com http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Pa=
ulickShroud.asp
> > >=20
> > > tigersunited.com http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Pa=
ulickShroud.asp
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > >=20
> > > BTW, Tigers United has a lot of great articles covering the variety o=
f subjects. You might want to check it out.  http://tigersunited.com/techti=
ps/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > >=20
> > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > >=20
> > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > >=20
> > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > On Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown <[email-masked]> wro=
te: http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > >=20
> > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp
> > > >=20
> > > > Thanks for all of the replies.  I have a mostly stock engine (with =
Edelbrock intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator.  I have a temperature gaug=
e mounted on the intake and the engine seems to run a little over 200 at id=
le but I haven't had any problems while driving the car.  My problem right =
now is that I took the car out one afternoon when the temperature was over =
100 degrees and when I pulled into the garage and shut the engine off it pu=
ked some water onto the floor.  The temp gauge was showing around 250 degre=
es at that point.   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Pauli=
ckShroud.asp
> > > >=20
> > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp
> > > >=20
> > > > I already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some=
 horn opening covers today.  I will also look at blocking off the area belo=
w the radiator.  I have read all of the articles that people have referred =
to and I believe I have an airflow problem at low speeds.  So I was just lo=
oking for pusher fan recommendations at this point.    http://tigersunited.=
com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > >=20
> > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp
> > > >=20
> > > > The best advice is to probably not drive in 100+ degree weather. ht=
tp://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > >=20
> > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp
> > > >=20
> > > > Thanks, http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickSh=
roud.asp
> > > >=20
> > > > Joe Brown http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Paulick=
Shroud.asp
> > > >=20
> > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp
> > > >=20
> > > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers <t=
[email-masked]> wrote: http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud=
/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > >=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > > I made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the s=
tock tiger, fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air c=
omes through the radiator down towards the ground and circles back through =
the radiator again. So essentially you're just recycling hot air from your =
own radiator.  It works.  http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt=
-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > >=20
> > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp
> > > > >=20
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd <[email-masked]=
> wrote: http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.as=
p
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShro=
ud.asp
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > I think michael hit the nail on the head.  first need to know i=
s it overheating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed? http://tigers=
united.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShro=
ud.asp
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > a pusher fan will only help at very low speed or when stopped. =
 and spal is the go to brand.   still need the horn holes and gap between c=
ross member and rad blocked.  cardboard and zip ties does the trick quickly=
 and can be replaced with a more permanent solution later if you want.  als=
o need a fan shroud. http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Paul=
ickShroud.asp
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShro=
ud.asp
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > personally i've never needed the electric pusher fan because i =
have a small 13" flex fan on the water pump pulley.  that creates enough pu=
ll through the radiator at idle. http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickSh=
roud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShro=
ud.asp
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > if its overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another probl=
em entirely and there are a variety of other things to check. http://tigers=
united.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShro=
ud.asp
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > in my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain condition=
s (slowing down after running fast in really high ambient temps above a par=
ticular altitude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem.  there are=
 a bunch of things i could do there, most importantly a carb heat shield, b=
ut i've only suffered from it once. http://tigersunited.com/techtips/Paulic=
kShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShro=
ud.asp
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > one thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling issues i=
n the tiger over the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hos=
e.  at least you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with th=
ermostat or water pump issues and if you're used to how it should look, eve=
n how blocked the radiator is. http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShro=
ud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShro=
ud.asp
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShro=
ud.asp
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers <tiger=
[email-masked]> wrote: http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-=
PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > I=E2=80=99ve been reading about cooling issues with tigers fo=
r more that a decade (much less than some reading this) blocking horn holes=
, pusher fans, and shrouds etc etc. Entire studies have been done on this i=
ssue. Just check STOA, CAT or any club site. All good reads! I think the fi=
rst place to start is knowing what the actual engine team really is. We all=
 know that the original temp guage can be off. The other thing is: as a dye=
d in the wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal engine temp. But, Ford e=
ngines can get to 195-200 degrees easily and that is not necessarily a bad =
thing. Yes, I put a pusher in mine only because I had one. I=E2=80=99m not =
really sure is does anything. My original guage can show 225-230 on  a hot =
day (humidity plays a bitg role) but never has pucked out fluid. The design=
 of the should is an issue. It lets hot air from the engine compartment to =
get under the radiator. Many, many, =E2=80=98fixes=E2=80=99 that can be don=
e. However, on a hot low humidity day.. well good luck. JMO http://tigersun=
ited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickSh=
roud.asp
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > On Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard <[email-masked]=
com.com> wrote: http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickSh=
roud.asp
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Paulick=
Shroud.asp
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > The article includes several suggestions. http://tigersunit=
ed.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Paulick=
Shroud.asp
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > One of them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan=
 shroud at the bottom. http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Pa=
ulickShroud.asp
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Paulick=
Shroud.asp
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > A list member offered a piece he fabricated. http://tigersu=
nited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Paulick=
Shroud.asp
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > I obtained one and here are a couple of pictures. I hope to=
 fit it later this year. http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-=
PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Paulick=
Shroud.asp
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > Even a few degrees of cooling will be worth the effort. htt=
p://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Paulick=
Shroud.asp
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > Allan Ballard http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShrou=
d/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > Mk1a Tiger http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/p=
t-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Paulick=
Shroud.asp
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > >  http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone http://tigersunited.com/techtips/Paulic=
kShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Paulick=
Shroud.asp
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 18, 2023, at 10:57 PM, Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gm=
ail.com> wrote: http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickSh=
roud.asp
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > Have you looked at this cooling suggestions?  http://tige=
rsunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanValance1.asp http:=
//tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Pauli=
ckShroud.asp
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > It works great in Southern California heat. http://tigers=
united.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Pauli=
ckShroud.asp
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:42=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown <jbbrow=
[email-masked]> wrote: http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-P=
aulickShroud.asp
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > My Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in =
Texas.  I've read through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I wil=
l make some of the suggested modifications.  They listed two different push=
er electric fans in the article but both of them are no longer available. h=
ttp://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Pau=
lickShroud.asp
> > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > So, has anybody recently installed a pusher fan?  If so=
, what part numbers? http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Paul=
ickShroud.asp
> > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > >   http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-Pau=
lickShroud.asp
> > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks, http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/=
pt-PaulickShroud.asp
> > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > Joe Brown http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShrou=
d/pt-PaulickShroud.asp
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   Wow Lynn!&nbsp; 565HP AND AC, wow.
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   Tell us more about your AC setup.
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    On 07/20/2023 2:36 PM PDT Cars via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt;=
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    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">With a proper full shroud it would work well.&nb=
sp; Probably be enough with Horn block offs.</p>=20
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I am running a 347 stroker, 565 ish HP and full =
air conditioning and never get over 185-195 degrees with A/C in 100 degree =
heat.&nbsp; Can do it all day.</p>=20
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    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Lynn</p>=20
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     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Tigers &lt;tigers-bounce=
[email-masked]&gt; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>M Lafayette via Tigers<b=
r><strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, July 20, 2023 12:13 PM<br><strong>To:</s=
trong> [email-masked]; [email-masked]<br><strong>Subject:</s=
trong> Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 143</p>=20
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      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 14.0pt; font=
-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">In speaking to a rep. from a fa=
n company years ago, he mentioned that a "puller" elect. fan would cool eit=
her 2 or 3 times (can't remember the number) as well as a "pusher" elect. f=
an.&nbsp; Makes sense since modern cars seems to use puller elctric's.&nbsp=
; Has anyone tried just one good elect. puller on a Tiger?</span></strong><=
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         <p>As I was reading your "journey" when you got to the Flex-a-Lite=
 fan (initial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people seem to h=
ave success with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a particular Derale fan=
.&nbsp; I can see where a pusher fan might impede airflow of a mechanical p=
uller fan but not the other way where a puller fan impedes the flow of a pu=
sher fan. That said given the "Flex" aspect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder=
 if it creates a "wall of wind" and was causing the overheating issue. With=
out smoke to see the flow of air movement I'm always baffled by things that=
 blow over - and those that don't, leaves that deposit in one area of the y=
ard - and not another. So, whatever the flex fan was doing it seems germane=
 to the itself as others have not had the same issue with the recommended f=
ans and a pusher fan. I won't ask if the fan was installed backwards (you s=
een way smarter than that) but does the possibility exist that the fan desi=
gn was for counter rotation? With serpentine belts in cars these days the r=
otation of the water pump is often opposite of earlier engines of the same =
design. The good news is that you found a solution to your problem. Enjoy t=
he ride.</p>=20
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 =E2=80=93 Shotgun Approach after time of trying baby steps.</span></p>=20
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r of struggling with car running hot at idle with the hood down, Hot to me =
is 195 degrees and above. I took drastic steps.&nbsp; I have been driving t=
he car during the last year only on back roads with not much chance of traf=
fic lights and traffic.&nbsp; I live in rural NC outside of Pinehurst.</spa=
n></p>=20
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span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Pur=
chased and installed horn hole block plates from </span></span><span class=
=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1dfrtlirtlidzssg"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0=
pt; font-family: 'Garamond',serif;">Don Lutjen</span></span><span class=3D"=
yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: 'Garamond',serif;">&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> scuffed, pr=
imed and painted semi gloss black.</span></span></li>=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-=
list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Pur=
chased and installed new taller custom aluminum cross flow side tank radiat=
or from Griffin Radiator.</span></span></li>=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-=
list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Pur=
chased and installed new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painted Ford dark =
blue to match engine replacing SS water pump, pressed hub to line up.</span=
></span></li>=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-=
list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Mod=
ified the mechanical fan spacer so that front of fan is 1=E2=80=9D from rad=
iator.</span></span></li>=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-=
list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Mec=
hanical fan remains Flex-a-Lite 14=E2=80=9D nylon 6 blade fan.</span></span=
></li>=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-=
list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Pur=
chased and installed new SS lower radiator and overflow to radiator hoses.<=
/span></span></li>=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-=
list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">New=
 top radiator hose from local source, as SS hose would not fit taller radia=
tor.</span></span></li>=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-=
list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">New=
 fan belt.</span></span></li>=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-=
list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Pur=
chased and refurbished original Tiger fan shroud which would not fit as I d=
id not want to cut a original shroud top mounting bracket to fit my taller =
radiator.&nbsp; Striped, primed and painted used shroud semi gloss black =
=E2=80=93 sitting on shelf.</span></span></li>=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-=
list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Ins=
talled 160 degree thermostat from 180.&nbsp; Could not find 170 degree.&nbs=
p; If anyone has a part number and supplier for a 170-degree thermostat, pl=
ease forward.</span></span></li>=20
             </ol>=20
             <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"=
yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">So at this point I do not have a fan shro=
ud =E2=80=93 unless make up a custom.&nbsp; Other changes could make is fro=
nt air dam and block front cross member to bottom of radiator spacing but f=
or now I am going to see how things play out this summer.</span></span></p>=
=20
             <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"=
yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">&nbsp;Ok after all the above I was still =
not satisfied with watching the temperature gauge increase while at idle or=
 in stop and go traffic.&nbsp; Goal was to keep the temperature at ALL time=
s between 180 and 190 degrees whether driving or at idle.</span></span></p>=
=20
             <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"=
yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">&nbsp;The following changes have been mad=
e since the above changes 1-13 after trial period of 6 months or so.</span>=
</span></p>=20
             <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"=
yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">&nbsp;The Flow Kooler water pump started =
leaking so I purchased the SS water pump and installed it and drove for a m=
onth or so.&nbsp; Install error on the Flow Kooler water pump gasket turned=
 out to be the problem.&nbsp; The SS water pump actually raised idle temps =
2-3 degrees so I would later reinstall the Flow Kooler with a new gasket.</=
span></span></p>=20
             <ol start=3D"1" type=3D"1">=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-=
list: l3 level1 lfo2;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Ins=
talled a couple of 12=E2=80=9D electric pusher fans I had in the garage and=
 wired a manual off/on switch under the dash with a relay.&nbsp; Not much h=
elp or change in idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go traffic.</=
span></span></li>=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-=
list: l3 level1 lfo2;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Bui=
lt and installed a custom fan shroud.&nbsp; Remember I have an oversize Gri=
ffin radiator.&nbsp; This change resulted in idle temp. drop by maybe 2-3 d=
egrees.&nbsp; Goal not achieve at this point but getting better.</span></sp=
an></li>=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-=
list: l3 level1 lfo2;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">I t=
hen discussed issue with Flex-a-lite technical services hot line (multiple =
times) regarding their electric pusher fan line.</span></span></li>=20
             </ol>=20
             <ol start=3D"3" type=3D"1">=20
              <ol start=3D"1" type=3D"a">=20
               <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso=
-list: l3 level2 lfo2;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf">=
<span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Th=
e rule of thumb they recommend:&nbsp; Electric fans of either the pusher or=
 puller type should be that the electric fan should cover 70% of the radiat=
or surface.&nbsp; Mine came out to 69.5% coverage.</span></span></li>=20
               <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso=
-list: l3 level2 lfo2;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf">=
<span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Sm=
all block V-8 engines recommendation is&nbsp; 3,000 CFM.</span></span></li>=
=20
               <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso=
-list: l3 level2 lfo2;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf">=
<span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Fl=
ex - a- Lite had only 1 fan that met these specifications.</span></span></l=
i>=20
              </ol>=20
             </ol>=20
             <table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" style=3D"width: 369.75pt;" bor=
der=3D"0" width=3D"493" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">=20
              <tbody>=20
               <tr>=20
                <td style=3D"width: 2.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" width=
=3D"3"> <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal">&nbsp;</p> </td>=20
                <td style=3D"width: 367.25pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" va=
lign=3D"top" width=3D"490"> <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal">=
<strong><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; c=
olor: black;"><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391" tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: black;">FLX-105391</s=
pan></a></span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Aria=
l',sans-serif; color: black;"><br>Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, =
16 in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm, Black, 20 amps,&nbsp; <br>(Mfr. #: 239) </span>=
</p> </td>=20
               </tr>=20
              </tbody>=20
             </table>=20
             <ol start=3D"4" type=3D"1">=20
              <ol start=3D"4" type=3D"a">=20
               <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso=
-list: l0 level2 lfo3;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf">=
<span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Al=
so purchased temp probe and relay from Flex =E2=80=93 a Lite which is adjus=
table so you can set when the fan comes on.&nbsp; Off is 10 degrees from on=
 temp and is NOT adjustable.</span></span></li>=20
              </ol>=20
             </ol>=20
             <table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" style=3D"width: 6.25in;" borde=
r=3D"0" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">=20
              <tbody>=20
               <tr>=20
                <td style=3D"width: 7.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" width=
=3D"10"> <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal">&nbsp;</p> </td>=20
                <td style=3D"width: 148.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" val=
ign=3D"top" width=3D"198"> <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><=
strong><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; co=
lor: black;"><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-121281" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: black;">FLX-121281</sp=
an></a></span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial=
',sans-serif; color: black;"><br>Fan Control, Compact, Adjustable, Thread-i=
n Probe, Single Fan, Kit <br>(Mfr. #: 33095) </span></p> </td>=20
               </tr>=20
              </tbody>=20
             </table>=20
             <div>=20
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac=
1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roma=
n',serif;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; e. =
Also purchased temperature probe adapter and installed in the upper radiato=
r hose.</span></span></p>=20
             </div>=20
             <table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" style=3D"width: 6.25in;" borde=
r=3D"0" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">=20
              <tbody>=20
               <tr>=20
                <td style=3D"width: 7.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" width=
=3D"10"> <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal">&nbsp;</p> </td>=20
                <td style=3D"width: 148.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" val=
ign=3D"top" width=3D"198"> <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><=
strong><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; co=
lor: black;"><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-107078" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: black;">FLX-107078</sp=
an></a></span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial=
',sans-serif; color: black;"><br>Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/=
2 in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in. NPT Ports, Includes One Plug, Each <br>(Mfr. #:=
 32082) </span></p> </td>=20
               </tr>=20
              </tbody>=20
             </table>=20
             <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"margin=
-left: .75in;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">The idea wa=
s to run the stock temp gauge probe&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; into the adapte=
r and keep my mechanical temperature gauge in place in the manifold to veri=
fy stock gauge was pretty accurate.&nbsp; The =C2=BC NPT port would not han=
dle the stock probe and I could not find 1/4 probe with the correct ohms fo=
r the stock gauge, so manual temp gauge is still in place which I believe i=
s accurate.</span></span></p>=20
             <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"=
yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;f.&nbsp; Goal still not achieved</span=
></span></p>=20
             <ol start=3D"5" type=3D"1">=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"colo=
r: black; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo4;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac=
1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roma=
n',serif; color: windowtext;">Flex - a - Lite then offered the following ad=
vice =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9C</span></span><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; fon=
t-family: 'Garamond',serif;">You typically only need one or the other. If y=
ou have a mechanical fan and just want extra cooling in stop and go traffic=
, I suggest you use a much smaller electric fan. But using both a mechanica=
l and this bigger electric fan will probably cause some disruption.=E2=80=
=9D&nbsp; The two smaller electric fans I used did not work in my case, so =
advice about smaller electric fan in conjunction with mechanical water pump=
 fan did not work in my particular car.</span></li>=20
             </ol>=20
             <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">&nbsp;<span style=
=3D"color: black;">Plan =E2=80=A6. Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump w=
ith new gasket.</span></span></p>=20
             <ol start=3D"5" type=3D"1">=20
              <ol start=3D"1" type=3D"a">=20
               <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso=
-list: l2 level2 lfo5;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Tim=
es New Roman',serif; color: black;">Removed the mechanical fan from the wat=
er pump and the 1=E2=80=9D spacer.&nbsp; Finally success!&nbsp; Temp stays =
between 176 and 190 at ALL times regardless of ambient temperature and traf=
fic conditions. So, in my case, the mechanical fan in conjunction with the =
electric fan was causing air flow disruption.</span></li>=20
               <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso=
-list: l2 level2 lfo5;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Tim=
es New Roman',serif; color: black;">&nbsp;The temp at speed above 35 mph, t=
he car runs around 176 degrees with 160 degree thermostat in temps 90 degre=
es and less.&nbsp; About 183 in temperatures above 90, so not a issue. I mi=
ght try out the 180 degree thermostat at some point, 170 if I could find on=
e might be optimum for my car.&nbsp; The only down side for me is the elect=
ric fan is noisy when running and volts on volt gauge drops around =C2=BD -=
 =C2=BE- volt when the fan comes on.. The battery volts dropping are due to=
 fan drawing 20 amps. This has not been a issue with lights on or off. I ha=
ve a alternator and not the generator so with generator cars, this might be=
 an issue.&nbsp; Now I cannot hear the electric fan <strong>at all</strong>=
 inside the car but outside, it is noisy when running.&nbsp; Headers, 2.25"=
 exhaust pipes with Flow Master series 40 mufflers.&nbsp; I wonder why I ca=
nnot hear fan running.</span></li>=20
              </ol>=20
             </ol>=20
             <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">&nb=
sp;So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except lower =
shroud addition and air dam to direct airflow.</span></p>=20
             <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">&nb=
sp;Every car reacts differently to changes and you have to keep trying diff=
erent approaches that might work for your car and temperature\humidity of t=
he area you reside.</span></p>=20
             <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">&nb=
sp;What changes I have made to me that had the biggest result and what woul=
d I try again in what order to minimize cost, effort and work involved.</sp=
an></p>=20
             <div>=20
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font=
-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">Yahoo formatting again. </=
span></p>=20
             </div>=20
             <div>=20
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font=
-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">Test temp gauge and sender=
 to ensure reading properly.</span></p>=20
             </div>=20
             <ol start=3D"1" type=3D"1">=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"colo=
r: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font=
-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Ensure radiator in good working order.</=
span></li>=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"colo=
r: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font=
-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Change thermostat from 180 to 170 then 1=
60.</span></li>=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"colo=
r: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font=
-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Install horn block off plates, minimal c=
ost and about 1 hour to install.</span></li>=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"colo=
r: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font=
-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Fan shroud if you do not have one, 2-3 d=
egrees improvement in my case, custom made.&nbsp; Possible making of the lo=
wer portion of the shroud as well, which I have not done.</span></li>=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"colo=
r: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac=
1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roma=
n',serif; color: windowtext;">Undersize water pump pulley and at same time,=
 try a different mechanical fan and ensure fan is 1=E2=80=9D from radiator.=
</span></span></li>=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"colo=
r: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac=
1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roma=
n',serif; color: windowtext;">Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680, </span></spa=
n><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Garamond',serif;">2-3 deg=
rees improvement in my case</span></li>=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"colo=
r: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac=
1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roma=
n',serif; color: windowtext;">New Griffin radiator.&nbsp; They sell a packa=
ge for the Tiger with radiator, electric fan and shroud.&nbsp; Remember my =
radiator is a custom oversize radiator install by previous owner and the st=
ock Griffin radiator or package would not work in my case but I have instal=
led a new custom Griffin radiator.</span></span></li>=20
              <li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"colo=
r: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac=
1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roma=
n',serif; color: windowtext;">Remove mechanical fan and install electric pu=
sher fan that covers 70% of your radiator surface </span></span><strong><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; color: windowtext;">and </span> </strong><sp=
an class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 1=
2.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: windowtext;">moves 3,00=
0 cfm=E2=80=99s as recommended for small block V-8 motors. Items 8 and 9 co=
uld be in reverse order and step 9 will not necessary if you purchase the G=
riffin Tiger package, your call.</span></span></li>=20
             </ol>=20
             <p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">&nb=
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shroud addition and air dam to direct air flow and have finally met my goal=
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tions.&nbsp; I hope my trials and findings will help you moving forward.&nb=
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                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt=
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nk" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>On Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown <u><span style=3D"color: blue;">&l=
t;[email-masked]&gt;</span></u> wrote:</span></a></span></p>=20
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 font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://ti=
gersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">=
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                     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0p=
t; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://=
tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;=
">Thanks for all of the replies.&nbsp; I have a mostly stock engine (with E=
delbrock intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator.&nbsp; I have a temperature =
gauge mounted on the intake and the engine seems to run a little over 200 a=
t idle but I haven't had any problems while driving the car.&nbsp; My probl=
em right now is that I took the car out one afternoon when the temperature =
was over 100 degrees and when I pulled into the garage and shut the engine =
off it puked some water onto the floor.&nbsp; The temp gauge was showing ar=
ound 250 degrees at that point.&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></a></span></p>=20
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pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http:/=
/tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none=
;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0=
pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http:/=
/tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none=
;">I already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some horn=
 opening covers today.&nbsp; I will also look at blocking off the area belo=
w the radiator.&nbsp; I have read all of the articles that people have refe=
rred to and I believe I have an airflow problem at low speeds.&nbsp; So I w=
as just looking for pusher fan recommendations at this point.&nbsp; &nbsp;<=
/span></a></span></p>=20
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pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http:/=
/tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none=
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pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http:/=
/tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none=
;">The best advice is to probably not drive in 100+ degree weather.</span><=
/a></span></p>=20
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pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http:/=
/tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none=
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pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http:/=
/tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none=
;">Thanks,</span></a></span></p>=20
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pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http:/=
/tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none=
;">Joe Brown</span></a></span></p>=20
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                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt=
; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://t=
igersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;"=
>&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0=
pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http:/=
/tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none=
;">On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers &lt;<u>=
<span style=3D"color: blue;">[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</s=
pan></a></span></p>=20
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                       <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.=
0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http:=
//tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: non=
e;">I made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the stock t=
iger, fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air comes t=
hrough the radiator down towards the ground and circles back through the ra=
diator again. So essentially you're just recycling hot air from your own ra=
diator.&nbsp; It works.&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http=
://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"=
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10.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"ht=
tp://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration=
: none;">On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd &lt;<u><span style=3D"col=
or: blue;">[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span></p=
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0.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"htt=
p://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: n=
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                           <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http=
://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: no=
ne;">I think michael hit the nail on the head.&nbsp; first need to know is =
it overheating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed? </span></a></sp=
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: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"htt=
p://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: n=
one;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"htt=
p://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: n=
one;">a pusher fan will only help at very low speed or when stopped.&nbsp; =
and spal is the go to brand.&nbsp; &nbsp;still need the horn holes and gap =
between cross member and rad blocked.&nbsp; cardboard and zip ties does the=
 trick quickly and can be replaced with a more permanent&nbsp;solution late=
r if you want.&nbsp; also need a fan shroud. </span></a></span></p>=20
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e: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"ht=
tp://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration=
: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                             <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"ht=
tp://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration=
: none;">personally i've never needed the electric pusher fan because i hav=
e a small 13" flex fan on the water pump pulley.&nbsp; that creates enough =
pull through the radiator at idle.</span></a></span></p>=20
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=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration=
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e: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"ht=
tp://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration=
: none;">if its&nbsp;overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another pro=
blem entirely and there are a variety&nbsp;of other things to check.</span>=
</a></span></p>=20
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                            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"htt=
p://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: n=
one;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"htt=
p://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: n=
one;">in my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain conditions&nbsp=
;(slowing down after running fast in really high ambient temps above a part=
icular altitude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem.&nbsp; there=
 are a bunch of things i could do there, most importantly a carb heat shiel=
d, but i've&nbsp;only suffered from it once.</span></a></span></p>=20
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                            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"htt=
p://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: n=
one;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                           <div>=20
                            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"htt=
p://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: n=
one;">one thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling issues in the =
tiger over the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hose.&nbs=
p; at least you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with the=
rmostat or water pump issues and if you're used to how it should look, even=
 how blocked the radiator is.</span></a></span></p>=20
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                            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"htt=
p://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: n=
one;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: =
10.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"ht=
tp://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration=
: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                           <div>=20
                            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"htt=
p://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: n=
one;">On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers &lt;<u><span=
 style=3D"color: blue;">[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span><=
/a></span></p>=20
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                             <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: 18.0pt; font-family: 'Times-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"ht=
tp://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration=
: none;">I=E2=80=99ve been reading&nbsp;about cooling issues with tigers fo=
r more that a decade (much less than some reading this) blocking horn holes=
, pusher fans, and shrouds etc etc. Entire studies have been done on&nbsp;t=
his issue. Just check STOA, CAT or any club site. All good reads! I think t=
he first place to start is&nbsp;knowing what the actual&nbsp;engine team re=
ally is. We all know that the original temp guage can be off. The other thi=
ng is: as a dyed in the wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal engine te=
mp. But, Ford engines can get to 195-200 degrees easily and that is not&nbs=
p;necessarily a bad thing. Yes, I put a pusher in mine only because I had o=
ne. I=E2=80=99m not really sure is does&nbsp;anything. My&nbsp;original gua=
ge can show 225-230 on &nbsp;a hot day (humidity plays a bitg role) but nev=
er has pucked out fluid. The design of the should is an&nbsp;issue. It lets=
 hot air from the engine compartment to get under the radiator. Many, many,=
 =E2=80=98fixes=E2=80=99 that can be&nbsp;done. However, on a hot low humid=
ity day.. well good luck. JMO</span> </a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"h=
ttp://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration=
: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"h=
ttp://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration=
: none;">On Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard &lt;<u><span style=3D"c=
olor: blue;">[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span>=
</p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"h=
ttp://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration=
: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">The article includes several suggestions.</span> </a></span></p>=
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">One of them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan shrou=
d at the bottom.</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">A list member offered a piece he fabricated.</span></a></span></p=
                              </div>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <div>=20
                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">I obtained one and here are a couple of pictures. I hope to fit i=
t later this year.</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <div>=20
                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">Even a few degrees of cooling will be worth the effort.</span></a=
></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">Allan Ballard</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">Mk1a Tiger</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom=
: 12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-s=
erif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickS=
hroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=
=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">&lt;image0.jpeg&gt;&lt;image1.j=
peg&gt;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">Sent from my iPhone</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom=
: 12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-s=
erif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickS=
hroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=
=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">On Jul 18, 2023, at 10:57 PM, J=
ay Laifman &lt;<u><span style=3D"color: blue;">[email-masked]</span>=
</u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <div>=20
                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">Have you looked at this cooling suggestions? &nbsp;<u><span style=
=3D"color: blue;">http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-S=
teveLaifmanValance1.asp</span></u> </span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">It works great in Southern California heat.</span></a></span></p>=
=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <div>=20
                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:42=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown &lt;<u><span st=
yle=3D"color: blue;">[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a>=
</span></p>=20
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                              <div>=20
                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">My Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in Texas.&nbs=
p; I've read through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I will mak=
e some of the suggested modifications.&nbsp; They listed two different push=
er electric fans in the article but both of them are no longer available. <=
/span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">So, has anybody recently installed a pusher fan?&nbsp; If so, wha=
t part numbers?</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">Thanks,</span></a></span></p>=20
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                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoratio=
n: none;">Joe Brown</span></a></span></p>=20
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: 12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-s=
erif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickS=
hroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=
=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">_______________________________=
________________<br><br><u><span style=3D"color: blue;">[email-masked]=
et</span></u><br><br>Donate:&nbsp;<u><span style=3D"color: blue;">http://ww=
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 blue;">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers</span></u>&nbsp;<u><span style=
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be:&nbsp;<u><span style=3D"color: blue;">http://autox.team.net/mailman/opti=
ons/tigers/[email-masked]</span></u><br><br></span></a></span></p>=
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: 12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-s=
erif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickS=
hroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=
=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">_______________________________=
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agreed about the brass.  i ran my tiger for years with the brass rad with
no cooling issues and about 350hp / 7000rpm engine at the time.   i
repaired the rad myself many times with solder but eventually it just seems
to be too old and fatigued and kept springing leaks in different places.
 I put an aluminium rad in with the new 500hp engine and that lasted less
than 1000 miles before it sprung a leak in the middle and needed to be
trashed and replaced.  i have about another 1000 miles on the new one - no
issues yet.

i don't think it needs much from the radiator as long as the coolant is
flowing ok.  all the issues are about controlling airflow and after that
heat soak.

i never run much pressure in the cooling system as i don't use water.

On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 10:00=E2=80=AFAM Cars via Tigers <[email-masked]=
.net>
wrote:

> Fluidyne radiator and the fan came with the front runner system. Electric=
.
> Ran by the engine management system.  However the most important part is
> that it is fitted and mounted into a custom FULL shroud
>
> However my first tiger 465 hp stroked 331 had a flex fan with a Ron Davis
> radiator. Everything else stock. I made a new shroud that was complete an=
d
> fit well. No problem with heat at all. LAT hood with functioning rear
> vents. The hood needs to be modified to make the vents functional.
>
> Just did one for a customer. Warmed up 289 stock radiator tanks but the
> rest modified by Tom Hall. Complete shroud. Ran as cool as can be.
>
> The key, in my opinion, is the shroud. Until that is addressed (and horn
> block offs). Everything else is guess and prayer
>
> Studies have show. That the thermal efficiency/weight advantages of
> aluminum are marginal. Basically brass is just as good. Aluminum is flash=
y.
> But you will struggle getting it repaired. They are pretty much disposabl=
e.
> In many instances the end tanks are epoxied on.
>
> Having said that, I have aluminum in every car but my my mini, model A an=
d
> mustang.
>
> My 2 cents
> Lynn
>
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> On Jul 20, 2023, at 5:11 PM, M Lafayette <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> In a message dated 7/20/2023 5:37:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [email-masked] writes:
>
>
> With a proper full shroud it would work well.  Probably be enough with
> Horn block offs.
>
>
>
r
> get over 185-195 degrees with A/C in 100 degree heat.  Can do it all day.
>
>
>
> Lynn
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *M Lafayette
> via Tigers
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2023 12:13 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 143
>
>
>
> *In speaking to a rep. from a fan company years ago, he mentioned that a
> "puller" elect. fan would cool either 2 or 3 times (can't remember the
> number) as well as a "pusher" elect. fan.  Makes sense since modern cars
> seems to use puller elctric's.  Has anyone tried just one good elect.
> puller on a Tiger?*
>
> *Mark*
>
>
> In a message dated 7/20/2023 1:58:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [email-masked] writes:
>
>
>
 I
n
.
rs
eps.
t
 line
=9D from
t to
>    fit my taller radiator.  Striped, primed and painted used shroud semi =
gloss
> So at this point I do not have a fan shroud =E2=80=93 unless make up a cu=
stom.
> Other changes could make is front air dam and block front cross member to
> bottom of radiator spacing but for now I am going to see how things play
> out this summer.
>
e
 garage
>    and wired a manual off/on switch under the dash with a relay.  Not muc=
h
>    help or change in idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go traf=
fic.
70% of
h is
>       adjustable so you can set when the fan comes on.  Off is 10 degrees=
 from on
>       temp and is NOT adjustable.
>
>
>
e stock
> probe and I could not find 1/4 probe with the correct ohms for the stock
> gauge, so manual temp gauge is still in place which I believe is accurate=
.
=9CYou typically
 will
>    probably cause some disruption.=E2=80=9D  The two smaller electric fan=
s I used did
>    not work in my case, so advice about smaller electric fan in conjuncti=
on
>    with mechanical water pump fan did not work in my particular car.
>
pacer.
>       Finally success!  Temp stays between 176 and 190 at ALL times regar=
dless of
hanical
ption.
>       with 160 degree thermostat in temps 90 degrees and less.  About 183=
 in
>       temperatures above 90, so not a issue. I might try out the 180 degr=
ee
>       thermostat at some point, 170 if I could find one might be optimum =
for my
>       car.  The only down side for me is the electric fan is noisy when r=
unning
>       and volts on volt gauge drops around =C2=BD - =C2=BE- volt when the=
 fan comes on..
>       The battery volts dropping are due to fan drawing 20 amps. This has=
 not
>       been a issue with lights on or off. I have a alternator and not the
>       generator so with generator cars, this might be an issue.  Now I ca=
nnot
>       hear the electric fan *at all* inside the car but outside, it is
>       noisy when running.  Headers, 2.25" exhaust pipes with Flow Master =
series
>       40 mufflers.  I wonder why I cannot hear fan running.
>
y
d
>    case, custom made.  Possible making of the lower portion of the shroud=
 as
>    well, which I have not done.
ator
ended
d
our
al
> On Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown *<[email-masked]>* wrote:
as
f
0
e
nd
> [email-masked]*> wrote:
s
n
> On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd <[email-masked]*> wrote:
d
y
ch
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st
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers <[email-masked]=
eam.net*>
a decade
.
y sure is
ld
on a hot low
> On Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard <[email-masked]*>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">agreed about the brass.=C2=A0 i ran my tiger for years wit=
h the brass rad with no cooling issues and about 350hp / 7000rpm engine at =
the time.=C2=A0 =C2=A0i repaired the rad myself many times with solder but =
eventually it just seems to be too old and fatigued and kept springing leak=
s in different=C2=A0places.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I put an aluminium rad in with the =
new 500hp engine and that lasted less than 1000 miles before it sprung a le=
ak in the middle and needed to be trashed and replaced.=C2=A0 i have about =
another 1000 miles on the new one - no issues yet.<div><br></div><div>i don=
&#39;t think it needs much from the radiator as long as the coolant is flow=
ing ok.=C2=A0 all the issues are about controlling airflow and after that h=
eat soak.<br><div><br></div><div>i never run much pressure=C2=A0in the cool=
ing system as i don&#39;t use water.</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 10:=
00=E2=80=AFAM Cars via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"auto">
Fluidyne radiator and the fan came with the front runner system. Electric. =
Ran by the engine management system.=C2=A0 However the most important part =
is that it is fitted and mounted into a custom FULL shroud
<div><br>
</div>
<div>However my first tiger 465 hp stroked 331 had a flex fan with a Ron Da=
vis radiator. Everything else stock. I made a new shroud that was complete =
and fit well. No problem with heat at all. LAT hood with functioning rear v=
ents. The hood needs to be modified
 to make the vents functional.=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Just did one for a customer. Warmed up 289 stock radiator tanks but th=
e rest modified by Tom Hall. Complete shroud. Ran as cool as can be.=C2=A0<=
/div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The key, in my opinion, is the shroud. Until that is addressed (and ho=
rn block offs). Everything else is guess and prayer</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Studies have show. That the thermal efficiency/weight advantages of al=
uminum are marginal. Basically brass is just as good. Aluminum is flashy. B=
ut you will struggle getting it repaired. They are pretty much disposable. =
In many instances the end tanks
 are epoxied on.=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Having said that, I have aluminum in every car but my my mini, model A=
 and mustang.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My 2 cents</div>
<div>Lynn<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my mobile device</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 20, 2023, at 5:11 PM, M Lafayette &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14pt;color:r=
gb(0,0,0)">
<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-weight:bold">Lynn, S=
tock radiator? And, what fan?<br>
</span></div>
<br>
In a message dated 7/20/2023 5:37:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> writes:
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:2px solid=
 blue">
<div id=3D"m_-2026923930358604809yiv2557846792">
<div>
<div>
<p>With a proper full shroud it would work well.=C2=A0 Probably be enough w=
ith Horn block offs.</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>I am running a 347 stroker, 565 ish HP and full air conditioning and nev=
er get over 185-195 degrees with A/C in 100 degree heat.=C2=A0 Can do it al=
l day.</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>Lynn</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p><strong>From:</strong> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox=
.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
<strong>On Behalf Of </strong>M Lafayette via Tigers<br>
<strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, July 20, 2023 12:13 PM<br>
<strong>To:</strong> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">
[email-masked]</a><br>
<strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 143</p>
</div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<div>
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black=
">In speaking to a rep. from a fan company years ago, he mentioned that a &=
quot;puller&quot; elect. fan would cool either 2 or 3 times (can&#39;t reme=
mber the
 number) as well as a &quot;pusher&quot; elect. fan.=C2=A0 Makes sense sinc=
e modern cars seems to use puller elctric&#39;s.=C2=A0 Has anyone tried jus=
t one good elect. puller on a Tiger?</span></strong></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black=
">Mark</span></strong></p>
</div>
<p><br>
In a message dated 7/20/2023 1:58:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D=
"_blank">
[email-masked]</a> writes:</p>
<div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1.5pt solid blue;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt;margin-left:3.75pt;marg=
in-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div id=3D"m_-2026923930358604809yiv2557846792">
<div>
<p>As I was reading your &quot;journey&quot; when you got to the Flex-a-Lit=
e fan (initial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people seem to =
have success with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a particular Derale fa=
n.=C2=A0 I can see where a pusher fan might impede
 airflow of a mechanical puller fan but not the other way where a puller fa=
n impedes the flow of a pusher fan. That said given the &quot;Flex&quot; as=
pect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder if it creates a &quot;wall of wind&quo=
t; and was causing the overheating issue. Without smoke
 to see the flow of air movement I&#39;m always baffled by things that blow=
 over - and those that don&#39;t, leaves that deposit in one area of the ya=
rd - and not another. So, whatever the flex fan was doing it seems germane =
to the itself as others have not had the
 same issue with the recommended fans and a pusher fan. I won&#39;t ask if =
the fan was installed backwards (you seen way smarter than that) but does t=
he possibility exist that the fan design was for counter rotation? With ser=
pentine belts in cars these days the
 rotation of the water pump is often opposite of earlier engines of the sam=
e design. The good news is that you found a solution to your problem. Enjoy=
 the ride.</p>
<div>
<p>On 7/20/2023 7:47 AM, Joel Martin via Tigers wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">Tiger R=
unning hot =E2=80=93 Shotgun Approach after time of trying baby steps.</spa=
n></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">After a=
bout a year of struggling with car running hot at idle with the hood down, =
Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I took drastic steps.=C2=A0 I have been=
 driving
 the car during the last year only on back roads with not much chance of tr=
affic lights and traffic.=C2=A0 I live in rural NC outside of Pinehurst.</s=
pan></p>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Bloody yahoo mail formatting ruined numbering copi=
ed from MS Word, so please ignore.=C2=A0
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 1. Purchased and installed Sunbeam Specialties (SS) glo=
ss black radiator overflow tank, missing from car.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2. Purchased and installed overflow tank str=
aps from
<span>Alexander Washick</span><span>=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
m</a> which are powder coated</span>,
 missing from car.</span></p>
</div>
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"1">
<li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">=
Purchased and installed undersize water pump pulley from
</span></span><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:serif">Robert=
 Straghan</span></span><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:seri=
f">=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow noopener no=
referrer" target=3D"_blank">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
 scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black</span></span></li><li><span><=
span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">Purchased a=
nd installed horn hole block plates from
</span></span><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:serif">Don Lu=
tjen</span></span><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:serif">=
=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
 scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black.</span></span></li><li><span>=
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">Purchased =
and installed new taller custom aluminum cross flow side tank radiator from=
 Griffin Radiator.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">Purchased and installed new Flow Koole=
r water pump BRA-1680 painted Ford dark blue to match engine replacing
 SS water pump, pressed hub to line up.</span></span></li><li><span><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">Modified the mech=
anical fan spacer so that front of fan is 1=E2=80=9D from radiator.</span><=
/span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New se=
rif&quot;">Mechanical fan remains Flex-a-Lite 14=E2=80=9D nylon 6 blade fan=
.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;New serif&quot;">Purchased and installed new SS lower radiator and overf=
low to radiator hoses.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">New top radiator hose from local s=
ource, as SS hose would not fit taller radiator.</span></span></li><li><spa=
n><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">New fan =
belt.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family=
:&quot;New serif&quot;">Purchased and refurbished original Tiger fan shroud=
 which would not fit as I did not want to cut a original
 shroud top mounting bracket to fit my taller radiator.=C2=A0 Striped, prim=
ed and painted used shroud semi gloss black =E2=80=93 sitting on shelf.</sp=
an></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Ne=
w serif&quot;">Installed 160 degree thermostat from 180.=C2=A0 Could not fi=
nd 170 degree.=C2=A0 If anyone has a part number and supplier
 for a 170-degree thermostat, please forward.</span></span></li></ol>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">S=
o at this point I do not have a fan shroud =E2=80=93 unless make up a custo=
m.=C2=A0 Other changes could make is front
 air dam and block front cross member to bottom of radiator spacing but for=
 now I am going to see how things play out this summer.</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">=
=C2=A0Ok after all the above I was still not satisfied with watching the te=
mperature gauge increase while at idle
 or in stop and go traffic.=C2=A0 Goal was to keep the temperature at ALL t=
imes between 180 and 190 degrees whether driving or at idle.</span></span><=
/p>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">=
=C2=A0The following changes have been made since the above changes 1-13 aft=
er trial period of 6 months or so.</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">=
=C2=A0The Flow Kooler water pump started leaking so I purchased the SS wate=
r pump and installed it and drove for
 a month or so.=C2=A0 Install error on the Flow Kooler water pump gasket tu=
rned out to be the problem.=C2=A0 The SS water pump actually raised idle te=
mps 2-3 degrees so I would later reinstall the Flow Kooler with a new gaske=
t.</span></span></p>
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"1">
<li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">=
Installed a couple of 12=E2=80=9D electric pusher fans I had in the garage =
and wired a manual off/on switch under
 the dash with a relay.=C2=A0 Not much help or change in idle temperature w=
hile at stoplights or stop\go traffic.</span></span></li><li><span><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">Built and installe=
d a custom fan shroud.=C2=A0 Remember I have an oversize Griffin radiator.=
=C2=A0 This change resulted
 in idle temp. drop by maybe 2-3 degrees.=C2=A0 Goal not achieve at this po=
int but getting better.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">I then discussed issue with Flex-=
a-lite technical services hot line (multiple times) regarding their electri=
c
 pusher fan line.</span></span></li></ol>
<ol start=3D"3" type=3D"1">
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"a">
<li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">=
The rule of thumb they recommend:=C2=A0 Electric fans of either the pusher =
or puller type should be that the electric
 fan should cover 70% of the radiator surface.=C2=A0 Mine came out to 69.5%=
 coverage.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;New serif&quot;">Small block V-8 engines recommendation is=C2=
=A0 3,000 CFM.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">Flex - a- Lite had only 1 fan that met the=
se specifications.</span></span></li></ol>
</ol>
<table style=3D"width:369.75pt" border=3D"0" width=3D"493" cellspacing=3D"0=
" cellpadding=3D"0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style=3D"width:2.5pt;padding:0in" width=3D"3">
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</td>
<td style=3D"width:367.25pt;padding:0in" valign=3D"top" width=3D"490">
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black"=
><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:black">FLX-1053=
91</span></a></span></strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-=
serif;color:black"><br>
Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, 16 in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm, Black,=
 20 amps,=C2=A0
<br>
(Mfr. #: 239) </span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<ol start=3D"4" type=3D"1">
<ol start=3D"4" type=3D"a">
<li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">=
Also purchased temp probe and relay from Flex =E2=80=93 a Lite which is adj=
ustable so you can set when the fan comes
 on.=C2=A0 Off is 10 degrees from on temp and is NOT adjustable.</span></sp=
an></li></ol>
</ol>
<table style=3D"width:6.25in" border=3D"0" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" =
cellpadding=3D"0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style=3D"width:7.5pt;padding:0in" width=3D"10">
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</td>
<td style=3D"width:148.5pt;padding:0in" valign=3D"top" width=3D"198">
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black"=
><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-121281" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:black">FLX-1212=
81</span></a></span></strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-=
serif;color:black"><br>
Fan Control, Compact, Adjustable, Thread-in Probe, Single Fan, Kit <br>
(Mfr. #: 33095) </span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<div>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 e. Also purcha=
sed temperature probe adapter and installed in the upper radiator hose.</sp=
an></span></p>
</div>
<table style=3D"width:6.25in" border=3D"0" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" =
cellpadding=3D"0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style=3D"width:7.5pt;padding:0in" width=3D"10">
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</td>
<td style=3D"width:148.5pt;padding:0in" valign=3D"top" width=3D"198">
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black"=
><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-107078" rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:black">FLX-1070=
78</span></a></span></strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-=
serif;color:black"><br>
Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2 in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in. NPT P=
orts, Includes One Plug, Each
<br>
(Mfr. #: 32082) </span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p style=3D"margin-left:0.75in"><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;New serif&quot;">The idea was to run the stock temp gauge probe=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 into the adapter and keep my
 mechanical temperature gauge in place in the manifold to verify stock gaug=
e was pretty accurate.=C2=A0 The =C2=BC NPT port would not handle the stock=
 probe and I could not find 1/4 probe with the correct ohms for the stock g=
auge, so manual temp gauge is still in place
 which I believe is accurate.</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0f.=C2=A0 Goal still not achieved</span></span></p>
<ol start=3D"5" type=3D"1">
<li style=3D"color:black"><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&=
quot;New serif&quot;;color:windowtext">Flex - a - Lite then offered the fol=
lowing advice =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9C</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;font-family:serif">You
 typically only need one or the other. If you have a mechanical fan and jus=
t want extra cooling in stop and go traffic, I suggest you use a much small=
er electric fan. But using both a mechanical and this bigger electric fan w=
ill probably cause some disruption.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0
 The two smaller electric fans I used did not work in my case, so advice ab=
out smaller electric fan in conjunction with mechanical water pump fan did =
not work in my particular car.</span></li></ol>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">=C2=A0<=
span style=3D"color:black">Plan =E2=80=A6. Reinstalled the Flow Kooler wate=
r pump with new gasket.</span></span></p>
<ol start=3D"5" type=3D"1">
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"a">
<li><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;;color:b=
lack">Removed the mechanical fan from the water pump and the 1=E2=80=9D spa=
cer.=C2=A0 Finally success!=C2=A0 Temp stays between 176 and 190 at ALL tim=
es regardless
 of ambient temperature and traffic conditions. So, in my case, the mechani=
cal fan in conjunction with the electric fan was causing air flow disruptio=
n.</span></li><li><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif=
&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0The temp at speed above 35 mph, the car runs arou=
nd 176 degrees with 160 degree thermostat in temps 90 degrees and less.=C2=
=A0 About 183 in temperatures
 above 90, so not a issue. I might try out the 180 degree thermostat at som=
e point, 170 if I could find one might be optimum for my car.=C2=A0 The onl=
y down side for me is the electric fan is noisy when running and volts on v=
olt gauge drops around =C2=BD - =C2=BE- volt when
 the fan comes on.. The battery volts dropping are due to fan drawing 20 am=
ps. This has not been a issue with lights on or off. I have a alternator an=
d not the generator so with generator cars, this might be an issue.=C2=A0 N=
ow I cannot hear the electric fan
<strong>at all</strong> inside the car but outside, it is noisy when runnin=
g.=C2=A0 Headers, 2.25&quot; exhaust pipes with Flow Master series 40 muffl=
ers.=C2=A0 I wonder why I cannot hear fan running.</span></li></ol>
</ol>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;;color:bl=
ack">=C2=A0So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions excep=
t lower shroud addition and air dam to direct airflow.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;;color:bl=
ack">=C2=A0Every car reacts differently to changes and you have to keep try=
ing different approaches that might work for your car and temperature\humid=
ity
 of the area you reside.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;;color:bl=
ack">=C2=A0What changes I have made to me that had the biggest result and w=
hat would I try again in what order to minimize cost, effort and work invol=
ved.</span></p>
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<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;;color:bl=
ack">Yahoo formatting again.
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<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;;color:bl=
ack">Test temp gauge and sender to ensure reading properly.</span></p>
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<li style=3D"color:black"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;N=
ew serif&quot;">Ensure radiator in good working order.</span></li><li style=
=3D"color:black"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&=
quot;">Change thermostat from 180 to 170 then 160.</span></li><li style=3D"=
color:black"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot=
;">Install horn block off plates, minimal cost and about 1 hour to install.=
</span></li><li style=3D"color:black"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;New serif&quot;">Fan shroud if you do not have one, 2-3 degrees =
improvement in my case, custom made.=C2=A0 Possible making of the lower por=
tion of the shroud
 as well, which I have not done.</span></li><li style=3D"color:black"><span=
><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;;color:wind=
owtext">Undersize water pump pulley and at same time, try a different mecha=
nical
 fan and ensure fan is 1=E2=80=9D from radiator.</span></span></li><li styl=
e=3D"color:black"><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New=
 serif&quot;;color:windowtext">Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680,
</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:serif">2-3 degrees =
improvement in my case</span></li><li style=3D"color:black"><span><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;;color:windowtext">Ne=
w Griffin radiator.=C2=A0 They sell a package for the Tiger with radiator,
 electric fan and shroud.=C2=A0 Remember my radiator is a custom oversize r=
adiator install by previous owner and the stock Griffin radiator or package=
 would not work in my case but I have installed a new custom Griffin radiat=
or.</span></span></li><li style=3D"color:black"><span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;;color:windowtext">Remove mechani=
cal fan and install electric pusher fan that covers
 70% of your radiator surface </span></span><strong><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;color:windowtext">and
</span></strong><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New s=
erif&quot;;color:windowtext">moves 3,000 cfm=E2=80=99s as recommended for s=
mall block V-8 motors. Items 8 and 9 could be in reverse order and step 9 w=
ill
 not necessary if you purchase the Griffin Tiger package, your call.</span>=
</span></li></ol>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;;color:bl=
ack">=C2=A0So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions excep=
t lower shroud addition and air dam to direct air flow and have finally met
 my goal of keeping the temperature between 180 to 190 degrees in all drivi=
ng conditions.=C2=A0 I hope my trials and findings will help you moving for=
ward.=C2=A0 Any questions, please ask.</span></p>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">=
=C2=A0Regards</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;New serif&quot;">J=
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=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">On
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<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Thanks
 for all of the replies.=C2=A0 I have a mostly stock engine (with Edelbrock=
 intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator.=C2=A0 I have a temperature gauge mo=
unted on the intake and the engine seems to run a little over 200 at idle b=
ut I haven&#39;t had any problems while driving
 the car.=C2=A0 My problem right now is that I took the car out one afterno=
on when the temperature was over 100 degrees and when I pulled into the gar=
age and shut the engine off it puked some water onto the floor.=C2=A0 The t=
emp gauge was showing around 250 degrees at
 that point.=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></a></span></p>
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=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
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"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">I
 already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some horn ope=
ning covers today.=C2=A0 I will also look at blocking off the area below th=
e radiator.=C2=A0 I have read all of the articles that people have referred=
 to and I believe I have an airflow problem
 at low speeds.=C2=A0 So I was just looking for pusher fan recommendations =
at this point.=C2=A0 =C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
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d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">The
 best advice is to probably not drive in 100+ degree weather.</span></a></s=
pan></p>
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=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Thanks,</span></a></span></p>
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"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Joe
 Brown</span></a></span></p>
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"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
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=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
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<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">On
 Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers &lt;<u><span=
 style=3D"color:blue">[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a=
></span></p>
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order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
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"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">I
 made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the stock tiger,=
 fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air comes throug=
h the radiator down towards the ground and circles back through the radiato=
r again. So essentially you&#39;re just
 recycling hot air from your own radiator.=C2=A0 It works.=C2=A0</span></a>=
</span></p>
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"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
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"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">On
 Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd &lt;<u><span style=3D"color:blue">ow=
[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span></p>
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"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
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a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">I
 think michael hit the nail on the head.=C2=A0 first need to know is it ove=
rheating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed?
</span></a></span></p>
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a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
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a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">a
 pusher fan will only help at very low speed or when stopped.=C2=A0 and spa=
l is the go to brand.=C2=A0 =C2=A0still need the horn holes and gap between=
 cross member and rad blocked.=C2=A0 cardboard and zip ties does the trick =
quickly and can be replaced with a more permanent=C2=A0solution
 later if you want.=C2=A0 also need a fan shroud. </span></a></span></p>
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olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">personally
 i&#39;ve never needed the electric pusher fan because i have a small 13&qu=
ot; flex fan on the water pump pulley.=C2=A0 that creates enough pull throu=
gh the radiator at idle.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">if
 its=C2=A0overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another problem entire=
ly and there are a variety=C2=A0of other things to check.</span></a></span>=
</p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">in
 my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain conditions=C2=A0(slowin=
g down after running fast in really high ambient temps above a particular a=
ltitude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem.=C2=A0 there are a b=
unch of things i could do there, most importantly
 a carb heat shield, but i&#39;ve=C2=A0only suffered from it once.</span></=
a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">one
 thing i&#39;ve found very useful for debugging cooling issues in the tiger=
 over the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hose.=C2=A0 at=
 least you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with thermost=
at or water pump issues and if you&#39;re used
 to how it should look, even how blocked the radiator is.</span></a></span>=
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">On
 Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers &lt;<u><span style=
=3D"color:blue">[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></spa=
n></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:18pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a =
href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp=
" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"col=
or:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">I=E2=80=99ve
 been reading=C2=A0about cooling issues with tigers for more that a decade =
(much less than some reading this) blocking horn holes, pusher fans, and sh=
rouds etc etc. Entire studies have been done on=C2=A0this issue. Just check=
 STOA, CAT or any club site. All good reads!
 I think the first place to start is=C2=A0knowing what the actual=C2=A0engi=
ne team really is. We all know that the original temp guage can be off. The=
 other thing is: as a dyed in the wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal=
 engine temp. But, Ford engines can get to
 195-200 degrees easily and that is not=C2=A0necessarily a bad thing. Yes, =
I put a pusher in mine only because I had one. I=E2=80=99m not really sure =
is does=C2=A0anything. My=C2=A0original guage can show 225-230 on =C2=A0a h=
ot day (humidity plays a bitg role) but never has pucked out
 fluid. The design of the should is an=C2=A0issue. It lets hot air from the=
 engine compartment to get under the radiator. Many, many, =E2=80=98fixes=
=E2=80=99 that can be=C2=A0done. However, on a hot low humidity day.. well =
good luck. JMO</span>
</a></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">On
 Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard &lt;<u><span style=3D"color:blue">=
[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">The
 article includes several suggestions.</span> </a></span></p>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">One
 of them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan shroud at the bott=
om.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">A
 list member offered a piece he fabricated.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">I
 obtained one and here are a couple of pictures. I hope to fit it later thi=
s year.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Even
 a few degrees of cooling will be worth the effort.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Allan
 Ballard</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Mk1a
 Tiger</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/P=
aulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" tar=
get=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">&lt=
;image0.jpeg&gt;&lt;image1.jpeg&gt;</span></a></span></p>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Sent
 from my iPhone</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/P=
aulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" tar=
get=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">On
 Jul 18, 2023, at 10:57 PM, Jay Laifman &lt;<u><span style=3D"color:blue">j=
[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span></p>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Have
 you looked at this cooling suggestions? =C2=A0<u><span style=3D"color:blue=
">http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanValan=
ce1.asp</span></u>
</span></a></span></p>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">It
 works great in Southern California heat.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">On
 Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:42=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown &lt;<u><span style=3D"color=
:blue">[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">My
 Tiger can&#39;t keep up with this 100 degree weather in Texas.=C2=A0 I&#39=
;ve read through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I will make so=
me of the suggested modifications.=C2=A0 They listed two different pusher e=
lectric fans in the article but both of them are no
 longer available. </span></a></span></p>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">So,
 has anybody recently installed a pusher fan?=C2=A0 If so, what part number=
s?</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Thanks,</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Joe
 Brown</span></a></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/P=
aulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" tar=
get=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">___=
____________________________________________<br>
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I see, thanks Lynn. &nbsp;Sounds really imp=
ressive.<div>Gary&nbsp;</div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPho=
ne</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 21, 2023, at 1=
0:53 AM, Cars &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">

Well first of all let me say that the original design, inspiration and insta=
llation on my car was done by Dale A. And it is very impressive. Not for the=
 faint of heart or wallet. The system is a vintage air. But this literally t=
ouches every part of your build
 requiring the dash to be moved toward the driver. A new &nbsp;radiator core=
 support built and moved forward. A dales front end to get the steering rack=
 out of the way. A new dash with relocated ignition switch, smaller glove bo=
x, a/c controls ets. , etc. &nbsp;everywhere
 you look something is affected. Even all the leaks of air into the trunk ne=
ed to be solved and the top needs to be well fitted.&nbsp;
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My brother took my car and copied it for an installation in his car. He=
 made several really great improvements. Again, very invasive, and pretty da=
ng expensive. It blows cold and keeps the occupants very comfortable. Even w=
ith the top down it keeps you
 pretty cool by blowing on your legs.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Neither my brother or Dale say they will do another. It really needs to=
 be done when the car is in bare steel.&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My brother has a parts list for those that think they can take it on.&n=
bsp;</div>
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<div>Lynn<br>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 20, 2023, at 9:12 PM, GARY WINBLAD &lt;gary=
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<div>Wow Lynn!&nbsp; 565HP AND AC, wow. </div>
<div class=3D"default-style">Tell us more about your AC setup. </div>
<div class=3D"default-style">TIA, </div>
<div class=3D"default-style">Gary </div>
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<div>On 07/20/2023 2:36 PM PDT Cars via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt;=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">With a proper full shroud it would work well.&nbsp; P=
robably be enough with Horn block offs.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I am running a 347 stroker, 565 ish HP and full air c=
onditioning and never get over 185-195 degrees with A/C in 100 degree heat.&=
nbsp; Can do it all day.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Lynn</p>
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<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0=
in 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Tigers &lt;tigers-bounces@auto=
x.team.net&gt;
<strong>On Behalf Of </strong>M Lafayette via Tigers<br>
<strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, July 20, 2023 12:13 PM<br>
<strong>To:</strong> [email-masked]; [email-masked]<br>
<strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 143</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 14.0pt; font-family=
: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">In speaking to a rep. from a fan compan=
y years ago, he mentioned that a "puller" elect. fan would cool either 2 or 3=
 times (can't remember the number)
 as well as a "pusher" elect. fan.&nbsp; Makes sense since modern cars seems=
 to use puller elctric's.&nbsp; Has anyone tried just one good elect. puller=
 on a Tiger?</span></strong></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 14.0pt; font-family=
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In a message dated 7/20/2023 1:58:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]">
[email-masked]</a> writes:</p>
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<p>As I was reading your "journey" when you got to the Flex-a-Lite fan (init=
ial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people seem to have success=
 with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a particular Derale fan.&nbsp; I ca=
n see where a pusher fan might impede
 airflow of a mechanical puller fan but not the other way where a puller fan=
 impedes the flow of a pusher fan. That said given the "Flex" aspect of the =
Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder if it creates a "wall of wind" and was causing the o=
verheating issue. Without smoke
 to see the flow of air movement I'm always baffled by things that blow over=
 - and those that don't, leaves that deposit in one area of the yard - and n=
ot another. So, whatever the flex fan was doing it seems germane to the itse=
lf as others have not had the
 same issue with the recommended fans and a pusher fan. I won't ask if the f=
an was installed backwards (you seen way smarter than that) but does the pos=
sibility exist that the fan design was for counter rotation? With serpentine=
 belts in cars these days the
 rotation of the water pump is often opposite of earlier engines of the same=
 design. The good news is that you found a solution to your problem. Enjoy t=
he ride.</p>
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<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.=
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gun Approach after time of trying baby steps.</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.=
0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">After about a year of struggling=
 with car running hot at idle with the hood down, Hot to me is 195 degrees a=
nd above. I took drastic steps.&nbsp;
 I have been driving the car during the last year only on back roads with no=
t much chance of traffic lights and traffic.&nbsp; I live in rural NC outsid=
e of Pinehurst.</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times=
 New Roman',serif;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1. Purchased and installed Su=
nbeam Specialties (SS) gloss black radiator overflow tank, missing from car.=
</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times=
 New Roman',serif;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. Purchased and in=
stalled overflow tank straps from
<span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1dfrtlirtlidzssg">Alexander Washick</s=
pan><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf">&nbsp;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</=
a> which are powder coated</span>, missing from
 car.</span></p>
</div>
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"1">
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-list: l5 level1=
 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Purchased and instal=
led undersize water pump pulley from
</span></span><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1dfrtlirtlidzssg"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Garamond',serif;">Robert Straghan</=
span></span><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Garamond',serif;">&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">&lt;rgstraghan@yahoo=
.ca&gt;</a>
 scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black</span></span></li><li class=3D=
"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><spa=
n class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.=
0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Purchased and installed horn hol=
e block plates from
</span></span><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1dfrtlirtlidzssg"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Garamond',serif;">Don Lutjen</span>=
</span><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Garamond',serif;">&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:dlut=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">&lt;[email-masked]&=
gt;</a>
 scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black.</span></span></li><li class=3D=
"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><spa=
n class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.=
0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Purchased and installed new tall=
er custom aluminum cross
 flow side tank radiator from Griffin Radiator.</span></span></li><li class=3D=
"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><spa=
n class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.=
0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Purchased and installed new Flow=
 Kooler water pump BRA-1680
 painted Ford dark blue to match engine replacing SS water pump, pressed hub=
 to line up.</span></span></li><li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonorma=
l" style=3D"mso-list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68a=
c1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roma=
n',serif;">Modified the mechanical fan spacer so that front of fan is
 1=E2=80=9D from radiator.</span></span></li><li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0=
f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv16944=
49977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: '=
Times New Roman',serif;">Mechanical fan remains Flex-a-Lite 14=E2=80=9D nylo=
n 6 blade fan.</span></span></li><li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonor=
mal" style=3D"mso-list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f6=
8ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Ro=
man',serif;">Purchased and installed new SS lower radiator and overflow
 to radiator hoses.</span></span></li><li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1m=
sonormal" style=3D"mso-list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977yd=
pc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times N=
ew Roman',serif;">New top radiator hose from local source, as SS hose would
 not fit taller radiator.</span></span></li><li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f=
68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D"yiv169444=
9977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'T=
imes New Roman',serif;">New fan belt.</span></span></li><li class=3D"yiv1694=
449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span class=3D=
"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Purchased and refurbished original Tiger f=
an shroud which
 would not fit as I did not want to cut a original shroud top mounting brack=
et to fit my taller radiator.&nbsp; Striped, primed and painted used shroud s=
emi gloss black =E2=80=93 sitting on shelf.</span></span></li><li class=3D"y=
iv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-list: l5 level1 lfo1;"><span c=
lass=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt=
; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Installed 160 degree thermostat fro=
m 180.&nbsp; Could not find
 170 degree.&nbsp; If anyone has a part number and supplier for a 170-degree=
 thermostat, please forward.</span></span></li></ol>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977y=
dpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times N=
ew Roman',serif;">So at this point I do not have a fan shroud =E2=80=93 unle=
ss make up a custom.&nbsp; Other changes could
 make is front air dam and block front cross member to bottom of radiator sp=
acing but for now I am going to see how things play out this summer.</span><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977y=
dpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times N=
ew Roman',serif;">&nbsp;Ok after all the above I was still not satisfied wit=
h watching the temperature gauge increase
 while at idle or in stop and go traffic.&nbsp; Goal was to keep the tempera=
ture at ALL times between 180 and 190 degrees whether driving or at idle.</s=
pan></span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977y=
dpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times N=
ew Roman',serif;">&nbsp;The following changes have been made since the above=
 changes 1-13 after trial period of 6 months
 or so.</span></span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977y=
dpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times N=
ew Roman',serif;">&nbsp;The Flow Kooler water pump started leaking so I purc=
hased the SS water pump and installed it
 and drove for a month or so.&nbsp; Install error on the Flow Kooler water p=
ump gasket turned out to be the problem.&nbsp; The SS water pump actually ra=
ised idle temps 2-3 degrees so I would later reinstall the Flow Kooler with a=
 new gasket.</span></span></p>
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"1">
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-list: l3 level1=
 lfo2;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Installed a couple o=
f 12=E2=80=9D electric pusher fans I had in the
 garage and wired a manual off/on switch under the dash with a relay.&nbsp; N=
ot much help or change in idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go tr=
affic.</span></span></li><li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" sty=
le=3D"mso-list: l3 level1 lfo2;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz=
1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',ser=
if;">Built and installed a custom fan shroud.&nbsp; Remember I have
 an oversize Griffin radiator.&nbsp; This change resulted in idle temp. drop=
 by maybe 2-3 degrees.&nbsp; Goal not achieve at this point but getting bett=
er.</span></span></li><li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D=
"mso-list: l3 level1 lfo2;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpv=
f"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">=
I then discussed issue with Flex-a-lite technical services
 hot line (multiple times) regarding their electric pusher fan line.</span><=
/span></li></ol>
<ol start=3D"3" type=3D"1">
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"a">
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-list: l3 level2=
 lfo2;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">The rule of thumb th=
ey recommend:&nbsp; Electric fans of either
 the pusher or puller type should be that the electric fan should cover 70% o=
f the radiator surface.&nbsp; Mine came out to 69.5% coverage.</span></span>=
</li><li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-list: l3 l=
evel2 lfo2;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Small block V-8 e=
ngines recommendation is&nbsp; 3,000 CFM.</span></span></li><li class=3D"yiv=
1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-list: l3 level2 lfo2;"><span cl=
ass=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;=
 font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Flex - a- Lite had only 1 fan that m=
et these specifications.</span></span></li></ol>
</ol>
<table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" style=3D"width: 369.75pt;" border=3D"0" widt=
h=3D"493" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style=3D"width: 2.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" width=3D"3">
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal">&nbsp;</p>
</td>
<td style=3D"width: 367.25pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" valign=3D"top" widt=
h=3D"490">
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-s=
ize: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"><a href=3D"https=
://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391" originalsrc=3D"https://www.summitr=
acing.com/parts/FLX-105391" shash=3D"jmt9sQiZ0B/I+c98d+546F1ljltP8egyoYH7+t7=
8LU6t6vHkSUl5Y+4Pn4xQiqXe14vS4/0YDxfbrLhjZLbZNAZPPzTFUkAW+Vy5wqf4PCmorhluuai=
K182LkNN7HiXQokXj4t4IlFGVswljeueC6BANFnIAkS616wbhJZXDqXQ=3D" target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: black;">FLX-105391</span></a></spa=
n></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;=
 color: black;"><br>
Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, 16 in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm, Black, 2=
0 amps,&nbsp;
<br>
(Mfr. #: 239) </span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<ol start=3D"4" type=3D"1">
<ol start=3D"4" type=3D"a">
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-list: l0 level2=
 lfo3;"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Also purchased temp p=
robe and relay from Flex =E2=80=93 a Lite which
 is adjustable so you can set when the fan comes on.&nbsp; Off is 10 degrees=
 from on temp and is NOT adjustable.</span></span></li></ol>
</ol>
<table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" style=3D"width: 6.25in;" border=3D"0" width=3D=
"600" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style=3D"width: 7.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" width=3D"10">
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal">&nbsp;</p>
</td>
<td style=3D"width: 148.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" valign=3D"top" width=
=3D"198">
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-s=
ize: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"><a href=3D"https=
://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-121281" originalsrc=3D"https://www.summitr=
acing.com/parts/FLX-121281" shash=3D"cot+GKyd4CtHrEkKAOAR8gLtCznZnz2cfsR2Kzx=
foH5nwc7GG7pcf6IQzbC3oxtR7qpjrqeF0JWl0UjoGVwq3XI+Ax2YrbGUSkf11wPFV4DKZRPxYhx=
I9niGysS/R40Cp3z1+zm9kvYzOes3Y9xED+W0ZVc8c7vyoPqRLzLRPbQ=3D" target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: black;">FLX-121281</span></a></spa=
n></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;=
 color: black;"><br>
Fan Control, Compact, Adjustable, Thread-in Probe, Single Fan, Kit <br>
(Mfr. #: 33095) </span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; e. Also purchased te=
mperature probe adapter and installed in the upper radiator hose.</span></sp=
an></p>
</div>
<table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" style=3D"width: 6.25in;" border=3D"0" width=3D=
"600" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style=3D"width: 7.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" width=3D"10">
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal">&nbsp;</p>
</td>
<td style=3D"width: 148.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" valign=3D"top" width=
=3D"198">
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-s=
ize: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"><a href=3D"https=
://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-107078" originalsrc=3D"https://www.summitr=
acing.com/parts/FLX-107078" shash=3D"YZ6kItvP5stzTPVfXn5ij2f2srRWkr/VGQ7DKT2=
jOBJQHFmRfimjRTpnILZU0F3SsH5ZR4EdIEwRwADnudXkRj2mqq+/k0k9IUpcp66IMXVt/VLXiX/=
lzpK1ghVkqo8AnhrRssBLIeiM0e2O/4vnapJ2cf1lis6729worbXxLFM=3D" target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: black;">FLX-107078</span></a></spa=
n></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;=
 color: black;"><br>
Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2 in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in. NPT Po=
rts, Includes One Plug, Each
<br>
(Mfr. #: 32082) </span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"margin-left: .75in;"=
><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size=
: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">The idea was to run the sto=
ck temp gauge probe&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; into the adapter
 and keep my mechanical temperature gauge in place in the manifold to verify=
 stock gauge was pretty accurate.&nbsp; The =C2=BC NPT port would not handle=
 the stock probe and I could not find 1/4 probe with the correct ohms for th=
e stock gauge, so manual temp gauge is
 still in place which I believe is accurate.</span></span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span class=3D"yiv1694449977y=
dpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times N=
ew Roman',serif;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;f.&nbsp; Goal still not achieved</span></span></p>
<ol start=3D"5" type=3D"1">
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"color: black; mso-l=
ist: l1 level1 lfo4;">
<span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size:=
 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: windowtext;">Flex - a -=
 Lite then offered the following advice =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9C</span></span><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Garamond',serif;">You
 typically only need one or the other. If you have a mechanical fan and just=
 want extra cooling in stop and go traffic, I suggest you use a much smaller=
 electric fan. But using both a mechanical and this bigger electric fan will=
 probably cause some disruption.=E2=80=9D&nbsp;
 The two smaller electric fans I used did not work in my case, so advice abo=
ut smaller electric fan in conjunction with mechanical water pump fan did no=
t work in my particular car.</span></li></ol>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.=
0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">&nbsp;<span style=3D"color: blac=
k;">Plan =E2=80=A6. Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump with new gasket.<=
/span></span></p>
<ol start=3D"5" type=3D"1">
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"a">
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-list: l2 level2=
 lfo5;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',ser=
if; color: black;">Removed the mechanical fan from the water pump and the 1=E2=
=80=9D spacer.&nbsp; Finally success!&nbsp; Temp stays
 between 176 and 190 at ALL times regardless of ambient temperature and traf=
fic conditions. So, in my case, the mechanical fan in conjunction with the e=
lectric fan was causing air flow disruption.</span></li><li class=3D"yiv1694=
449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"mso-list: l2 level2 lfo5;"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">&nb=
sp;The temp at speed above 35 mph, the car runs around 176 degrees with 160 d=
egree thermostat
 in temps 90 degrees and less.&nbsp; About 183 in temperatures above 90, so n=
ot a issue. I might try out the 180 degree thermostat at some point, 170 if I=
 could find one might be optimum for my car.&nbsp; The only down side for me=
 is the electric fan is noisy when running
 and volts on volt gauge drops around =C2=BD - =C2=BE- volt when the fan com=
es on.. The battery volts dropping are due to fan drawing 20 amps. This has n=
ot been a issue with lights on or off. I have a alternator and not the gener=
ator so with generator cars, this might
 be an issue.&nbsp; Now I cannot hear the electric fan <strong>at all</stron=
g> inside the car but outside, it is noisy when running.&nbsp; Headers, 2.25=
" exhaust pipes with Flow Master series 40 mufflers.&nbsp; I wonder why I ca=
nnot hear fan running.</span></li></ol>
</ol>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.=
0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">&nbsp;So you see I=
 have tried almost all recommended suggestions except lower shroud addition a=
nd air dam to direct airflow.</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.=
0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">&nbsp;Every car re=
acts differently to changes and you have to keep trying different approaches=
 that might work for your car and temperature\humidity
 of the area you reside.</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.=
0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">&nbsp;What changes=
 I have made to me that had the biggest result and what would I try again in=
 what order to minimize cost, effort and
 work involved.</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times=
 New Roman',serif; color: black;">Yahoo formatting again.
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times=
 New Roman',serif; color: black;">Test temp gauge and sender to ensure readi=
ng properly.</span></p>
</div>
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"1">
<li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"color: black; mso-l=
ist: l4 level1 lfo6;">
<span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Ens=
ure radiator in good working order.</span></li><li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydp=
c0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"color: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;">
<span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Cha=
nge thermostat from 180 to 170 then 160.</span></li><li class=3D"yiv16944499=
77ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"color: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;">
<span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Ins=
tall horn block off plates, minimal cost and about 1 hour to install.</span>=
</li><li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"color: black; m=
so-list: l4 level1 lfo6;">
<span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Fan=
 shroud if you do not have one, 2-3 degrees improvement in my case, custom m=
ade.&nbsp; Possible making of the lower portion of the shroud as well, which=
 I have not done.</span></li><li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"=
 style=3D"color: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;">
<span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size:=
 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: windowtext;">Undersize=
 water pump pulley and at same time, try a different mechanical fan and ensu=
re fan is 1=E2=80=9D from radiator.</span></span></li><li class=3D"yiv169444=
9977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"color: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;">=

<span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size:=
 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: windowtext;">Flow Kool=
er water pump BRA-1680,
</span></span><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Garamond',seri=
f;">2-3 degrees improvement in my case</span></li><li class=3D"yiv1694449977=
ydpc0f68ac1msonormal" style=3D"color: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;">
<span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size:=
 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: windowtext;">New Griff=
in radiator.&nbsp; They sell a package for the Tiger with radiator, electric=
 fan and shroud.&nbsp; Remember my radiator
 is a custom oversize radiator install by previous owner and the stock Griff=
in radiator or package would not work in my case but I have installed a new c=
ustom Griffin radiator.</span></span></li><li class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68=
ac1msonormal" style=3D"color: black; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo6;">
<span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"font-size:=
 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: windowtext;">Remove me=
chanical fan and install electric pusher fan that covers 70% of your radiato=
r surface
</span></span><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; color: windowtext;">=
and </span>
</strong><span class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1uncz1vrpvf"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: windowtext;">=
moves 3,000 cfm=E2=80=99s as recommended for small block V-8 motors. Items 8=
 and 9 could be in reverse order and step
 9 will not necessary if you purchase the Griffin Tiger package, your call.<=
/span></span></li></ol>
<p class=3D"yiv1694449977ydpc0f68ac1msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.=
0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">&nbsp;So you see I=
 have tried almost all recommended suggestions except lower shroud addition a=
nd air dam to direct air flow and have
 finally met my goal of keeping the temperature between 180 to 190 degrees i=
n all driving conditions.&nbsp; I hope my trials and findings will help you m=
oving forward.&nbsp; Any questions, please ask.</span></p>
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 Tigers United has a lot of great articles covering the variety of subjects.=
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tica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techti=
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m/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"tC9q+meB7j6Nm85sCPew=
vf9yUO3M5OoJacjsdmT1rFokLUn8MO+e8CcGGGnCSfFz4yTfxqvXcNzd7er1gAWJ7DLgeZebX2tV=
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" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">On
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[email-masked]&gt;</span></u> wrote:</span></a></span></p>
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oration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
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tica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techti=
ps/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.co=
m/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"tC9q+meB7j6Nm85sCPew=
vf9yUO3M5OoJacjsdmT1rFokLUn8MO+e8CcGGGnCSfFz4yTfxqvXcNzd7er1gAWJ7DLgeZebX2tV=
h+pspCbS6QA1DONIfUHp2WB2064ocD8gRXsixkVQp0RFUIgUTGW0WNdeB5OH9r3F6ksG2AP5ITI=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">Thanks
 for all of the replies.&nbsp; I have a mostly stock engine (with Edelbrock i=
ntake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator.&nbsp; I have a temperature gauge mount=
ed on the intake and the engine seems to run a little over 200 at idle but I=
 haven't had any problems while driving
 the car.&nbsp; My problem right now is that I took the car out one afternoo=
n when the temperature was over 100 degrees and when I pulled into the garag=
e and shut the engine off it puked some water onto the floor.&nbsp; The temp=
 gauge was showing around 250 degrees at
 that point.&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></a></span></p>
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m/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh=
2IO6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxo=
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tica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techti=
ps/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.co=
m/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh=
2IO6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxo=
Yr5+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">I
 already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some horn open=
ing covers today.&nbsp; I will also look at blocking off the area below the r=
adiator.&nbsp; I have read all of the articles that people have referred to a=
nd I believe I have an airflow problem
 at low speeds.&nbsp; So I was just looking for pusher fan recommendations a=
t this point.&nbsp; &nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
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m/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh=
2IO6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxo=
Yr5+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helve=
tica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techti=
ps/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.co=
m/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh=
2IO6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxo=
Yr5+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">The
 best advice is to probably not drive in 100+ degree weather.</span></a></sp=
an></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helve=
tica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techti=
ps/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.co=
m/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh=
2IO6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxo=
Yr5+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helve=
tica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techti=
ps/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.co=
m/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh=
2IO6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxo=
Yr5+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">Thanks,</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helve=
tica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techti=
ps/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.co=
m/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh=
2IO6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxo=
Yr5+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">Joe
 Brown</span></a></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helve=
tica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techti=
ps/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.co=
m/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh=
2IO6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxo=
Yr5+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helve=
tica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techti=
ps/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.co=
m/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh=
2IO6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxo=
Yr5+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">On
 Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers &lt;<u><span s=
tyle=3D"color: blue;">[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a>=
</span></p>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helve=
tica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techti=
ps/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.co=
m/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh=
2IO6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxo=
Yr5+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">I
 made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the stock tiger, f=
an shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air comes through t=
he radiator down towards the ground and circles back through the radiator ag=
ain. So essentially you're just
 recycling hot air from your own radiator.&nbsp; It works.&nbsp;</span></a><=
/span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helve=
tica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techti=
ps/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.co=
m/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh=
2IO6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxo=
Yr5+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
<blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helve=
tica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techti=
ps/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.co=
m/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh=
2IO6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxo=
Yr5+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">On
 Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd &lt;<u><span style=3D"color: blue;">o=
[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helve=
tica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techti=
ps/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.co=
m/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh=
2IO6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxo=
Yr5+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times=
-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/t=
echtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh2IO=
6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxoYr5=
+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-deco=
ration: none;">I
 think michael hit the nail on the head.&nbsp; first need to know is it over=
heating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed?
</span></a></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times=
-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/t=
echtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh2IO=
6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxoYr5=
+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-deco=
ration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times=
-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/t=
echtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh2IO=
6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxoYr5=
+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-deco=
ration: none;">a
 pusher fan will only help at very low speed or when stopped.&nbsp; and spal=
 is the go to brand.&nbsp; &nbsp;still need the horn holes and gap between c=
ross member and rad blocked.&nbsp; cardboard and zip ties does the trick qui=
ckly and can be replaced with a more permanent&nbsp;solution
 later if you want.&nbsp; also need a fan shroud. </span></a></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times=
-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/t=
echtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh2IO=
6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxoYr5=
+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-deco=
ration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times=
-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/t=
echtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh2IO=
6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxoYr5=
+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-deco=
ration: none;">personally
 i've never needed the electric pusher fan because i have a small 13" flex f=
an on the water pump pulley.&nbsp; that creates enough pull through the radi=
ator at idle.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times=
-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/t=
echtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh2IO=
6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxoYr5=
+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-deco=
ration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times=
-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/t=
echtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"rYLefGz3IKyHCJtY+UDh2IO=
6OZLWposWSlHkBVgo+E7Kx6JX9MvQP6DDL4dnJV1mQ4ENx1bB62T6oWYvQlrhVMZlw+JAwdxoYr5=
+6VjgLZH9FoUCWMcsPEE853UDGd3i7VrqgQjv12sI1wigIDbs9Q8c6Fp3OioxAB1hoBX+3hw=3D"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-deco=
ration: none;">if
 its&nbsp;overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another problem entirel=
y and there are a variety&nbsp;of other things to check.</span></a></span></=
p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times=
-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/t=
echtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VYShJ=
8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZrSDo=
LOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-deco=
ration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times=
-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/t=
echtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VYShJ=
8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZrSDo=
LOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-deco=
ration: none;">in
 my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain conditions&nbsp;(slowing=
 down after running fast in really high ambient temps above a particular alt=
itude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem.&nbsp; there are a bunc=
h of things i could do there, most importantly
 a carb heat shield, but i've&nbsp;only suffered from it once.</span></a></s=
pan></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times=
-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/t=
echtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VYShJ=
8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZrSDo=
LOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-deco=
ration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times=
-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/t=
echtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VYShJ=
8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZrSDo=
LOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-deco=
ration: none;">one
 thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling issues in the tiger over=
 the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hose.&nbsp; at least=
 you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with thermostat or w=
ater pump issues and if you're used
 to how it should look, even how blocked the radiator is.</span></a></span><=
/p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times=
-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/t=
echtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VYShJ=
8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZrSDo=
LOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-deco=
ration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helve=
tica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techti=
ps/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.co=
m/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VY=
ShJ8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZr=
SDoLOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times=
-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/t=
echtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VYShJ=
8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZrSDo=
LOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-deco=
ration: none;">On
 Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers &lt;<u><span style=3D=
"color: blue;">[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span>=
</p>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 18.0pt; font-family: 'Times=
-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/t=
echtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VYShJ=
8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZrSDo=
LOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-deco=
ration: none;">I=E2=80=99ve
 been reading&nbsp;about cooling issues with tigers for more that a decade (=
much less than some reading this) blocking horn holes, pusher fans, and shro=
uds etc etc. Entire studies have been done on&nbsp;this issue. Just check ST=
OA, CAT or any club site. All good reads!
 I think the first place to start is&nbsp;knowing what the actual&nbsp;engin=
e team really is. We all know that the original temp guage can be off. The o=
ther thing is: as a dyed in the wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal en=
gine temp. But, Ford engines can get to
 195-200 degrees easily and that is not&nbsp;necessarily a bad thing. Yes, I=
 put a pusher in mine only because I had one. I=E2=80=99m not really sure is=
 does&nbsp;anything. My&nbsp;original guage can show 225-230 on &nbsp;a hot d=
ay (humidity plays a bitg role) but never has pucked out
 fluid. The design of the should is an&nbsp;issue. It lets hot air from the e=
ngine compartment to get under the radiator. Many, many, =E2=80=98fixes=E2=80=
=99 that can be&nbsp;done. However, on a hot low humidity day.. well good lu=
ck. JMO</span>
</a></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times=
-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/t=
echtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VYShJ=
8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZrSDo=
LOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-deco=
ration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
<blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times=
-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/t=
echtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VYShJ=
8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZrSDo=
LOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-deco=
ration: none;">On
 Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard &lt;<u><span style=3D"color: blue;"=
>[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times=
-Roman',serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/t=
echtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VYShJ=
8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZrSDo=
LOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-deco=
ration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VYS=
hJ8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZrS=
DoLOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">The
 article includes several suggestions.</span> </a></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VYS=
hJ8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZrS=
DoLOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VYS=
hJ8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZrS=
DoLOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">One
 of them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan shroud at the botto=
m.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VYS=
hJ8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZrS=
DoLOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VYS=
hJ8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZrS=
DoLOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">A
 list member offered a piece he fabricated.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VYS=
hJ8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZrS=
DoLOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VYS=
hJ8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZrS=
DoLOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">I
 obtained one and here are a couple of pictures. I hope to fit it later this=
 year.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"bDouNFao9z7RiUlV32VYS=
hJ8XXd85m2QMAj6+8GYC8He+TFBfwNfR/x7PTsC4w40LIrdo1AfABTu8kWlzTfawZiHck20MyZrS=
DoLOTbfQ58K4zyoA2mCZZevDkRuh0ps2eXbiTlpsFfKWikGX4KgAFBLp45XPWY5EaQlMGMBS3k=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJ=
txqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQssFRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015g=
aMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">Even
 a few degrees of cooling will be worth the effort.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJ=
txqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQssFRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015g=
aMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJ=
txqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQssFRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015g=
aMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">Allan
 Ballard</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJ=
txqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQssFRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015g=
aMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">Mk1a
 Tiger</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJ=
txqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQssFRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015g=
aMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-=
size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" origin=
alsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp=
" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJtxqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQss=
FRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015gaMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16=
d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span s=
tyle=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">&lt;image0.jpeg&gt;&lt;image=
1.jpeg&gt;</span></a></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJ=
txqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQssFRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015g=
aMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">Sent
 from my iPhone</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJ=
txqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQssFRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015g=
aMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
<blockquote>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-=
size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D=
"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" origin=
alsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp=
" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJtxqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQss=
FRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015gaMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16=
d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span s=
tyle=3D"color: #26282a; text-decoration: none;">On
 Jul 18, 2023, at 10:57 PM, Jay Laifman &lt;<u><span style=3D"color: blue;">=
[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span></p>
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<blockquote>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJ=
txqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQssFRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015g=
aMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">Have
 you looked at this cooling suggestions? &nbsp;<u><span style=3D"color: blue=
;">http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanValan=
ce1.asp</span></u>
</span></a></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJ=
txqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQssFRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015g=
aMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJ=
txqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQssFRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015g=
aMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">It
 works great in Southern California heat.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJ=
txqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQssFRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015g=
aMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
<div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJ=
txqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQssFRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015g=
aMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">On
 Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:42=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown &lt;<u><span style=3D"color:=
 blue;">[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJ=
txqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQssFRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015g=
aMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">My
 Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in Texas.&nbsp; I've read t=
hrough the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I will make some of the s=
uggested modifications.&nbsp; They listed two different pusher electric fans=
 in the article but both of them are no
 longer available. </span></a></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJ=
txqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQssFRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015g=
aMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Helvet=
ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJ=
txqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQssFRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015g=
aMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">So,
 has anybody recently installed a pusher fan?&nbsp; If so, what part numbers=
?</span></a></span></p>
</div>
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ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJ=
txqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQssFRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015g=
aMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">&nbsp;</span></a></span></p>
</div>
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ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJ=
txqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQssFRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015g=
aMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">Thanks,</span></a></span></p>
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ica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtip=
s/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" originalsrc=3D"http://tigersunited.com=
/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" shash=3D"GFUJk/t+o0nUwiP7MznBJ=
txqHs1ot6lN5h0agnOcDAcJeqiHen47GMfrlomksCQssFRYYt2ocRMH/WqS3n+RVKouv3BFy015g=
aMbQLojrebG4y0ZEFEe4uzxPSEv8YiSdhkdC5H6Eeu16d/z8spy5XfpMQKzYdwn5taV+FZlmNo=3D=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #26282a; text-dec=
oration: none;">Joe
 Brown</span></a></span></p>
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YXTQ2AcEjMSXodJqiBt115Khpmg5Z3COvuDhqd2FHUjiezONTcJ7IlO+jQBNRoXkXXmlYMUF5hIc=
5Jod0HACOkA1/RqfjrrTuOphQZ+o3U=3D" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"><span s=
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Stock shroud amended to become a full circle shroud.

I=E2=80=99ve misplaced the guy=E2=80=99s name who fabricated these but =
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=E2=80=94Allan Ballard
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guy=E2=80=99s name who fabricated these but do remember that he=E2=80=99s =
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Wow!  You must really like it cool! =F0=9F=98=8E

On Fri, 21 Jul 2023 at 22:03, Cars via Tigers <[email-masked]> wrote=
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> Well first of all let me say that the original design, inspiration and
> installation on my car was done by Dale A. And it is very impressive. Not
> for the faint of heart or wallet. The system is a vintage air. But this
> literally touches every part of your build requiring the dash to be moved
> toward the driver. A new  radiator core support built and moved forward. =
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> relocated ignition switch, smaller glove box, a/c controls ets. , etc.
>  everywhere you look something is affected. Even all the leaks of air int=
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> the trunk need to be solved and the top needs to be well fitted.
>
> My brother took my car and copied it for an installation in his car. He
> made several really great improvements. Again, very invasive, and pretty
> dang expensive. It blows cold and keeps the occupants very comfortable.
> Even with the top down it keeps you pretty cool by blowing on your legs.
>
> Neither my brother or Dale say they will do another. It really needs to b=
e
> done when the car is in bare steel.
>
> My brother has a parts list for those that think they can take it on.
>
> Lynn
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Wow!=C2=A0 You must really like it cool! =F0=9F=98=8E</di=
v><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"=
>On Fri, 21 Jul 2023 at 22:03, Cars via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers=
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class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1=
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04)">

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Well first of all let me say that the original design, inspiration and inst=
allation on my car was done by Dale A. And it is very impressive. Not for t=
he faint of heart or wallet. The system is a vintage air. But this literall=
y touches every part of your build
 requiring the dash to be moved toward the driver. A new =C2=A0radiator cor=
e support built and moved forward. A dales front end to get the steering ra=
ck out of the way. A new dash with relocated ignition switch, smaller glove=
 box, a/c controls ets. , etc. =C2=A0everywhere
 you look something is affected. Even all the leaks of air into the trunk n=
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<div><br>
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<div>My brother took my car and copied it for an installation in his car. H=
e made several really great improvements. Again, very invasive, and pretty =
dang expensive. It blows cold and keeps the occupants very comfortable. Eve=
n with the top down it keeps you
 pretty cool by blowing on your legs.</div>
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<div>Neither my brother or Dale say they will do another. It really needs t=
o be done when the car is in bare steel.=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
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<div>My brother has a parts list for those that think they can take it on.=
=C2=A0</div>
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<br>
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<div>Tell us more about your AC setup. </div>
<div>TIA, </div>
<div>Gary </div>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>On 07/20/2023 2:36 PM PDT Cars via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers=
@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: </d=
iv>
<div>=C2=A0 </div>
<div>=C2=A0 </div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">With a proper full shroud it would work well.=C2=A0 =
Probably be enough with Horn block offs.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I am running a 347 stroker, 565 ish HP and full air =
conditioning and never get over 185-195 degrees with A/C in 100 degree heat=
.=C2=A0 Can do it all day.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Lynn</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
<div style=3D"border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;p=
adding:3pt 0in 0in;border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor"=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked].=
net</a>&gt;
<strong>On Behalf Of </strong>M Lafayette via Tigers<br>
<strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, July 20, 2023 12:13 PM<br>
<strong>To:</strong> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>
<strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 143</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,sans-serif;color:black">In speaking to a rep. from a fan company years =
ago, he mentioned that a &quot;puller&quot; elect. fan would cool either 2 =
or 3 times (can&#39;t remember the number)
 as well as a &quot;pusher&quot; elect. fan.=C2=A0 Makes sense since modern=
 cars seems to use puller elctric&#39;s.=C2=A0 Has anyone tried just one go=
od elect. puller on a Tiger?</span></strong></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,sans-serif;color:black">Mark</span></strong></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
In a message dated 7/20/2023 1:58:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">
[email-masked]</a> writes:</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<blockquote>
<div id=3D"m_11758778754032719yiv1694449977">
<div>
<p>As I was reading your &quot;journey&quot; when you got to the Flex-a-Lit=
e fan (initial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people seem to =
have success with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a particular Derale fa=
n.=C2=A0 I can see where a pusher fan might impede
 airflow of a mechanical puller fan but not the other way where a puller fa=
n impedes the flow of a pusher fan. That said given the &quot;Flex&quot; as=
pect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder if it creates a &quot;wall of wind&quo=
t; and was causing the overheating issue. Without smoke
 to see the flow of air movement I&#39;m always baffled by things that blow=
 over - and those that don&#39;t, leaves that deposit in one area of the ya=
rd - and not another. So, whatever the flex fan was doing it seems germane =
to the itself as others have not had the
 same issue with the recommended fans and a pusher fan. I won&#39;t ask if =
the fan was installed backwards (you seen way smarter than that) but does t=
he possibility exist that the fan design was for counter rotation? With ser=
pentine belts in cars these days the
 rotation of the water pump is often opposite of earlier engines of the sam=
e design. The good news is that you found a solution to your problem. Enjoy=
 the ride.</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 7/20/2023 7:47 AM, Joel Martin via Tigers wrote:<=
/p>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,se=
rif">Tiger Running hot =E2=80=93 Shotgun Approach after time of trying baby=
 steps.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,se=
rif">After about a year of struggling with car running hot at idle with the=
 hood down, Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I took drastic steps.=C2=A0
 I have been driving the car during the last year only on back roads with n=
ot much chance of traffic lights and traffic.=C2=A0 I live in rural NC outs=
ide of Pinehurst.</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Time=
s New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Bloody yahoo mail f=
ormatting ruined numbering copied from MS Word, so please ignore.=C2=A0
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Time=
s New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 1. Purchased and instal=
led Sunbeam Specialties (SS) gloss black radiator overflow tank, missing fr=
om car.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Time=
s New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2. Purchased =
and installed overflow tank straps from
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">Alexander Was=
hick</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=
=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blan=
k" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">[email-masked]=
m</a> which are powder coated</span>, missing from
 car.</span></p>
</div>
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"1">
<li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&q=
uot;,serif">Purchased and installed undersize water pump pulley from
</span></span><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,seri=
f">Robert Straghan</span></span><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fa=
mily:Garamond,serif">=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"no=
opener" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:Garamond,serif">&lt;rgstragh=
[email-masked]&gt;</a>
 scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black</span></span></li><li><span><=
span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif"=
>Purchased and installed horn hole block plates from
</span></span><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,seri=
f">Don Lutjen</span></span><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:=
Garamond,serif">=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopene=
r" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:Garamond,serif">&lt;dlutjen55@gma=
il.com&gt;</a>
 scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black.</span></span></li><li><span>=
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif=
">Purchased and installed new taller custom aluminum cross
 flow side tank radiator from Griffin Radiator.</span></span></li><li><span=
><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,seri=
f">Purchased and installed new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680
 painted Ford dark blue to match engine replacing SS water pump, pressed hu=
b to line up.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">Modified the mechanical fan spa=
cer so that front of fan is
 1=E2=80=9D from radiator.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-=
size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">Mechanical fan rem=
ains Flex-a-Lite 14=E2=80=9D nylon 6 blade fan.</span></span></li><li><span=
><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,seri=
f">Purchased and installed new SS lower radiator and overflow
 to radiator hoses.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12=
pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">New top radiator hose fro=
m local source, as SS hose would
 not fit taller radiator.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">New fan belt.</span=
></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Time=
s New Roman&quot;,serif">Purchased and refurbished original Tiger fan shrou=
d which
 would not fit as I did not want to cut a original shroud top mounting brac=
ket to fit my taller radiator.=C2=A0 Striped, primed and painted used shrou=
d semi gloss black =E2=80=93 sitting on shelf.</span></span></li><li><span>=
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif=
">Installed 160 degree thermostat from 180.=C2=A0 Could not find
 170 degree.=C2=A0 If anyone has a part number and supplier for a 170-degre=
e thermostat, please forward.</span></span></li></ol>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;,serif">So at this point I do not have a fan shroud =E2=80=93 unless mak=
e up a custom.=C2=A0 Other changes could
 make is front air dam and block front cross member to bottom of radiator s=
pacing but for now I am going to see how things play out this summer.</span=
></span></p>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;,serif">=C2=A0Ok after all the above I was still not satisfied with watc=
hing the temperature gauge increase
 while at idle or in stop and go traffic.=C2=A0 Goal was to keep the temper=
ature at ALL times between 180 and 190 degrees whether driving or at idle.<=
/span></span></p>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;,serif">=C2=A0The following changes have been made since the above chang=
es 1-13 after trial period of 6 months
 or so.</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;,serif">=C2=A0The Flow Kooler water pump started leaking so I purchased =
the SS water pump and installed it
 and drove for a month or so.=C2=A0 Install error on the Flow Kooler water =
pump gasket turned out to be the problem.=C2=A0 The SS water pump actually =
raised idle temps 2-3 degrees so I would later reinstall the Flow Kooler wi=
th a new gasket.</span></span></p>
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"1">
<li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&q=
uot;,serif">Installed a couple of 12=E2=80=9D electric pusher fans I had in=
 the
 garage and wired a manual off/on switch under the dash with a relay.=C2=A0=
 Not much help or change in idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go=
 traffic.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">Built and installed a custom fan sh=
roud.=C2=A0 Remember I have
 an oversize Griffin radiator.=C2=A0 This change resulted in idle temp. dro=
p by maybe 2-3 degrees.=C2=A0 Goal not achieve at this point but getting be=
tter.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family=
:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">I then discussed issue with Flex-a-lite=
 technical services
 hot line (multiple times) regarding their electric pusher fan line.</span>=
</span></li></ol>
<ol start=3D"3" type=3D"1">
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"a">
<li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&q=
uot;,serif">The rule of thumb they recommend:=C2=A0 Electric fans of either
 the pusher or puller type should be that the electric fan should cover 70%=
 of the radiator surface.=C2=A0 Mine came out to 69.5% coverage.</span></sp=
an></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New=
 Roman&quot;,serif">Small block V-8 engines recommendation is=C2=A0 3,000 C=
FM.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&=
quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">Flex - a- Lite had only 1 fan that met th=
ese specifications.</span></span></li></ol>
</ol>
<table style=3D"width:369.75pt" border=3D"0" width=3D"493" cellspacing=3D"0=
" cellpadding=3D"0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style=3D"width:2.5pt;padding:0in" width=3D"3">
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</td>
<td style=3D"width:367.25pt;padding:0in" valign=3D"top" width=3D"490">
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:=
black"><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391" rel=3D"noo=
pener" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style=
=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">FLX-105391</span></a></span><=
/strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:bla=
ck"><br>
Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, 16 in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm, Black,=
 20 amps,=C2=A0
<br>
(Mfr. #: 239) </span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<ol start=3D"4" type=3D"1">
<ol start=3D"4" type=3D"a">
<li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&q=
uot;,serif">Also purchased temp probe and relay from Flex =E2=80=93 a Lite =
which
 is adjustable so you can set when the fan comes on.=C2=A0 Off is 10 degree=
s from on temp and is NOT adjustable.</span></span></li></ol>
</ol>
<table style=3D"width:6.25in" border=3D"0" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" =
cellpadding=3D"0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style=3D"width:7.5pt;padding:0in" width=3D"10">
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</td>
<td style=3D"width:148.5pt;padding:0in" valign=3D"top" width=3D"198">
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:=
black"><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-121281" rel=3D"noo=
pener" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style=
=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">FLX-121281</span></a></span><=
/strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:bla=
ck"><br>
Fan Control, Compact, Adjustable, Thread-in Probe, Single Fan, Kit <br>
(Mfr. #: 33095) </span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 e. Also purchased temperature probe adapter and installe=
d in the upper radiator hose.</span></span></p>
</div>
<table style=3D"width:6.25in" border=3D"0" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" =
cellpadding=3D"0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style=3D"width:7.5pt;padding:0in" width=3D"10">
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</td>
<td style=3D"width:148.5pt;padding:0in" valign=3D"top" width=3D"198">
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:=
black"><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-107078" rel=3D"noo=
pener" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style=
=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">FLX-107078</span></a></span><=
/strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:bla=
ck"><br>
Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2 in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in. NPT P=
orts, Includes One Plug, Each
<br>
(Mfr. #: 32082) </span></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p style=3D"margin-left:0.75in"><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">The idea was to run the stock temp =
gauge probe=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 into the adapter
 and keep my mechanical temperature gauge in place in the manifold to verif=
y stock gauge was pretty accurate.=C2=A0 The =C2=BC NPT port would not hand=
le the stock probe and I could not find 1/4 probe with the correct ohms for=
 the stock gauge, so manual temp gauge is
 still in place which I believe is accurate.</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;,serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0f.=C2=A0 Goal still not achieved</span></span></p>
<ol start=3D"5" type=3D"1">
<li style=3D"color:black">
<span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
,serif;color:windowtext">Flex - a - Lite then offered the following advice =
=E2=80=93 =E2=80=9C</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:=
Garamond,serif">You
 typically only need one or the other. If you have a mechanical fan and jus=
t want extra cooling in stop and go traffic, I suggest you use a much small=
er electric fan. But using both a mechanical and this bigger electric fan w=
ill probably cause some disruption.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0
 The two smaller electric fans I used did not work in my case, so advice ab=
out smaller electric fan in conjunction with mechanical water pump fan did =
not work in my particular car.</span></li></ol>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,se=
rif">=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;col=
or:black">Plan =E2=80=A6. Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump with new g=
asket.</span></span></p>
<ol start=3D"5" type=3D"1">
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"a">
<li><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,s=
erif;color:black">Removed the mechanical fan from the water pump and the 1=
=E2=80=9D spacer.=C2=A0 Finally success!=C2=A0 Temp stays
 between 176 and 190 at ALL times regardless of ambient temperature and tra=
ffic conditions. So, in my case, the mechanical fan in conjunction with the=
 electric fan was causing air flow disruption.</span></li><li><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:blac=
k">=C2=A0The temp at speed above 35 mph, the car runs around 176 degrees wi=
th 160 degree thermostat
 in temps 90 degrees and less.=C2=A0 About 183 in temperatures above 90, so=
 not a issue. I might try out the 180 degree thermostat at some point, 170 =
if I could find one might be optimum for my car.=C2=A0 The only down side f=
or me is the electric fan is noisy when running
 and volts on volt gauge drops around =C2=BD - =C2=BE- volt when the fan co=
mes on.. The battery volts dropping are due to fan drawing 20 amps. This ha=
s not been a issue with lights on or off. I have a alternator and not the g=
enerator so with generator cars, this might
 be an issue.=C2=A0 Now I cannot hear the electric fan <strong style=3D"fon=
t-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">at all</strong> inside the car =
but outside, it is noisy when running.=C2=A0 Headers, 2.25&quot; exhaust pi=
pes with Flow Master series 40 mufflers.=C2=A0 I wonder why I cannot hear f=
an running.</span></li></ol>
</ol>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,se=
rif;color:black">=C2=A0So you see I have tried almost all recommended sugge=
stions except lower shroud addition and air dam to direct airflow.</span></=
p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,se=
rif;color:black">=C2=A0Every car reacts differently to changes and you have=
 to keep trying different approaches that might work for your car and tempe=
rature\humidity
 of the area you reside.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,se=
rif;color:black">=C2=A0What changes I have made to me that had the biggest =
result and what would I try again in what order to minimize cost, effort an=
d
 work involved.</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Time=
s New Roman&quot;,serif;color:black">Yahoo formatting again.
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Time=
s New Roman&quot;,serif;color:black">Test temp gauge and sender to ensure r=
eading properly.</span></p>
</div>
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"1">
<li style=3D"color:black">
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif=
">Ensure radiator in good working order.</span></li><li style=3D"color:blac=
k">
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif=
">Change thermostat from 180 to 170 then 160.</span></li><li style=3D"color=
:black">
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif=
">Install horn block off plates, minimal cost and about 1 hour to install.<=
/span></li><li style=3D"color:black">
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif=
">Fan shroud if you do not have one, 2-3 degrees improvement in my case, cu=
stom made.=C2=A0 Possible making of the lower portion of the shroud as well=
, which I have not done.</span></li><li style=3D"color:black">
<span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
,serif;color:windowtext">Undersize water pump pulley and at same time, try =
a different mechanical fan and ensure fan is 1=E2=80=9D from radiator.</spa=
n></span></li><li style=3D"color:black">
<span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
,serif;color:windowtext">Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680,
</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Garamond,serif">2-3=
 degrees improvement in my case</span></li><li style=3D"color:black">
<span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
,serif;color:windowtext">New Griffin radiator.=C2=A0 They sell a package fo=
r the Tiger with radiator, electric fan and shroud.=C2=A0 Remember my radia=
tor
 is a custom oversize radiator install by previous owner and the stock Grif=
fin radiator or package would not work in my case but I have installed a ne=
w custom Griffin radiator.</span></span></li><li style=3D"color:black">
<span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
,serif;color:windowtext">Remove mechanical fan and install electric pusher =
fan that covers 70% of your radiator surface
</span></span><strong><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:windowtext">and <=
/span>
</strong><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Ro=
man&quot;,serif;color:windowtext">moves 3,000 cfm=E2=80=99s as recommended =
for small block V-8 motors. Items 8 and 9 could be in reverse order and ste=
p
 9 will not necessary if you purchase the Griffin Tiger package, your call.=
</span></span></li></ol>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,se=
rif;color:black">=C2=A0So you see I have tried almost all recommended sugge=
stions except lower shroud addition and air dam to direct air flow and have
 finally met my goal of keeping the temperature between 180 to 190 degrees =
in all driving conditions.=C2=A0 I hope my trials and findings will help yo=
u moving forward.=C2=A0 Any questions, please ask.</span></p>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;,serif">=C2=A0Regards</span></span></p>
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sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" sty=
le=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none=
;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On
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s-serif"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:blue">&lt;jb=
[email-masked]&gt;</span></u> wrote:</span></a></span></p>
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sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" sty=
le=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none=
;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></s=
pan></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" sty=
le=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none=
;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Thanks
 for all of the replies.=C2=A0 I have a mostly stock engine (with Edelbrock=
 intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator.=C2=A0 I have a temperature gauge mo=
unted on the intake and the engine seems to run a little over 200 at idle b=
ut I haven&#39;t had any problems while driving
 the car.=C2=A0 My problem right now is that I took the car out one afterno=
on when the temperature was over 100 degrees and when I pulled into the gar=
age and shut the engine off it puked some water onto the floor.=C2=A0 The t=
emp gauge was showing around 250 degrees at
 that point.=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></a></span></p>
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sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" sty=
le=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none=
;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></s=
pan></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" sty=
le=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none=
;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">I
 already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some horn ope=
ning covers today.=C2=A0 I will also look at blocking off the area below th=
e radiator.=C2=A0 I have read all of the articles that people have referred=
 to and I believe I have an airflow problem
 at low speeds.=C2=A0 So I was just looking for pusher fan recommendations =
at this point.=C2=A0 =C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
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le=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none=
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pan></p>
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sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" sty=
le=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none=
;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">The
 best advice is to probably not drive in 100+ degree weather.</span></a></s=
pan></p>
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sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" sty=
le=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none=
;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Thanks,</span></a></=
span></p>
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sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" sty=
le=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none=
;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Joe
 Brown</span></a></span></p>
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sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" sty=
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sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" sty=
le=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none=
;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On
 Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers &lt;<u style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,=
sans-serif;color:blue">[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></=
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sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" sty=
le=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none=
;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">I
 made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the stock tiger,=
 fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air comes throug=
h the radiator down towards the ground and circles back through the radiato=
r again. So essentially you&#39;re just
 recycling hot air from your own radiator.=C2=A0 It works.=C2=A0</span></a>=
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sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" sty=
le=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none=
;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></s=
pan></p>
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sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" sty=
le=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none=
;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On
 Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd &lt;<u style=3D"font-family:Helvetic=
a,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:blue">o=
[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span></p>
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sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" sty=
le=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none=
;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></s=
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man,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;fon=
t-family:Times-Roman,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">I
 think michael hit the nail on the head.=C2=A0 first need to know is it ove=
rheating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed?
</span></a></span></p>
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man,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;fon=
t-family:Times-Roman,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p=
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Ro=
man,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;fon=
t-family:Times-Roman,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">a
 pusher fan will only help at very low speed or when stopped.=C2=A0 and spa=
l is the go to brand.=C2=A0 =C2=A0still need the horn holes and gap between=
 cross member and rad blocked.=C2=A0 cardboard and zip ties does the trick =
quickly and can be replaced with a more permanent=C2=A0solution
 later if you want.=C2=A0 also need a fan shroud. </span></a></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Ro=
man,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;fon=
t-family:Times-Roman,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p=
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Ro=
man,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;fon=
t-family:Times-Roman,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">personally
 i&#39;ve never needed the electric pusher fan because i have a small 13&qu=
ot; flex fan on the water pump pulley.=C2=A0 that creates enough pull throu=
gh the radiator at idle.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Ro=
man,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;fon=
t-family:Times-Roman,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p=
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Ro=
man,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;fon=
t-family:Times-Roman,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">if
 its=C2=A0overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another problem entire=
ly and there are a variety=C2=A0of other things to check.</span></a></span>=
</p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Ro=
man,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;fon=
t-family:Times-Roman,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p=
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Ro=
man,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;fon=
t-family:Times-Roman,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">in
 my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain conditions=C2=A0(slowin=
g down after running fast in really high ambient temps above a particular a=
ltitude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem.=C2=A0 there are a b=
unch of things i could do there, most importantly
 a carb heat shield, but i&#39;ve=C2=A0only suffered from it once.</span></=
a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Ro=
man,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;fon=
t-family:Times-Roman,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p=
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Ro=
man,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;fon=
t-family:Times-Roman,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">one
 thing i&#39;ve found very useful for debugging cooling issues in the tiger=
 over the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hose.=C2=A0 at=
 least you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with thermost=
at or water pump issues and if you&#39;re used
 to how it should look, even how blocked the radiator is.</span></a></span>=
</p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Ro=
man,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;fon=
t-family:Times-Roman,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p=
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips=
/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" sty=
le=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none=
;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></s=
pan></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Ro=
man,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;fon=
t-family:Times-Roman,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On
 Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers &lt;<u style=3D"font=
-family:Times-Roman,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif;col=
or:blue">[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18pt;font-family:Times-Roma=
n,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/Pa=
ulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" style=
=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;font=
-family:Times-Roman,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">I=E2=80=99ve
 been reading=C2=A0about cooling issues with tigers for more that a decade =
(much less than some reading this) blocking horn holes, pusher fans, and sh=
rouds etc etc. Entire studies have been done on=C2=A0this issue. Just check=
 STOA, CAT or any club site. All good reads!
 I think the first place to start is=C2=A0knowing what the actual=C2=A0engi=
ne team really is. We all know that the original temp guage can be off. The=
 other thing is: as a dyed in the wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal=
 engine temp. But, Ford engines can get to
 195-200 degrees easily and that is not=C2=A0necessarily a bad thing. Yes, =
I put a pusher in mine only because I had one. I=E2=80=99m not really sure =
is does=C2=A0anything. My=C2=A0original guage can show 225-230 on =C2=A0a h=
ot day (humidity plays a bitg role) but never has pucked out
 fluid. The design of the should is an=C2=A0issue. It lets hot air from the=
 engine compartment to get under the radiator. Many, many, =E2=80=98fixes=
=E2=80=99 that can be=C2=A0done. However, on a hot low humidity day.. well =
good luck. JMO</span>
</a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Ro=
man,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;fon=
t-family:Times-Roman,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p=
<blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Ro=
man,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;fon=
t-family:Times-Roman,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On
 Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard &lt;<u style=3D"font-family:Times-=
Roman,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif;color:blue">aball=
[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Ro=
man,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;fon=
t-family:Times-Roman,serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p=
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">The
 article includes several suggestions.</span> </a></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></sp=
an></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">One
 of them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan shroud at the bott=
om.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></sp=
an></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">A
 list member offered a piece he fabricated.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></sp=
an></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">I
 obtained one and here are a couple of pictures. I hope to fit it later thi=
s year.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></sp=
an></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Even
 a few degrees of cooling will be worth the effort.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></sp=
an></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Allan
 Ballard</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Mk1a
 Tiger</span></a></span></p>
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ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></sp=
an></p>
</div>
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e:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http=
://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noo=
pener" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span s=
tyle=3D"text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,=
40,42)">&lt;image0.jpeg&gt;&lt;image1.jpeg&gt;</span></a></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Sent
 from my iPhone</span></a></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></sp=
an></p>
<blockquote>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http=
://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noo=
pener" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span s=
tyle=3D"text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,=
40,42)">On
 Jul 18, 2023, at 10:57 PM, Jay Laifman &lt;<u style=3D"font-family:Helveti=
ca,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:blue">=
[email-masked]</span></u>&gt; wrote:</span></a></span></p>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Have
 you looked at this cooling suggestions? =C2=A0<u style=3D"font-family:Helv=
etica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:blu=
e">http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanVala=
nce1.asp</span></u>
</span></a></span></p>
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ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0</span></a></sp=
an></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">It
 works great in Southern California heat.</span></a></span></p>
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ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
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an></p>
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ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
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e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On
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:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;colo=
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ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
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e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">My
 Tiger can&#39;t keep up with this 100 degree weather in Texas.=C2=A0 I&#39=
;ve read through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I will make so=
me of the suggested modifications.=C2=A0 They listed two different pusher e=
lectric fans in the article but both of them are no
 longer available. </span></a></span></p>
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ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
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ans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/=
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e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">So,
 has anybody recently installed a pusher fan?=C2=A0 If so, what part number=
s?</span></a></span></p>
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From: Owain Lloyd <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 00:19:49 +0200

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Nice.  I do think a lot of the benefit of the lower shroud can be had in
about 5 minutes by zip tying a strip of cardboard between the cross member
and the bottom of the road though.

On Sat, 22 Jul 2023 at 00:03, Allan Ballard <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I=E2=80=99ve misplaced the guy=E2=80=99s name who fabricated these but do=
 remember that
> he=E2=80=99s a Canadian member.
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> =E2=80=94Allan Ballard
> Atlanta, GA
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> On Jul 21, 2023, at 4:11 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <[email-masked]=
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<div dir=3D"auto">Nice.=C2=A0 I do think a lot of the benefit of the lower =
shroud can be had in about 5 minutes by zip tying a strip of cardboard betw=
een the cross member and the bottom of the road though.</div><div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, 22 Jul =
2023 at 00:03, Allan Ballard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-s=
tyle:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div style=
=3D"line-break:after-white-space"><div><br></div>Stock shroud amended to be=
come a full circle shroud.<div><div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99ve misplaced t=
he guy=E2=80=99s name who fabricated these but do remember that he=E2=80=99=
s a Canadian member.</div><div><br></div><div>=E2=80=94Allan Ballard</div><=
div>Atlanta, GA</div><div><img src=3D"cid:1897a88154fd74733ce1" alt=3D"SHRO=
ULD2.jpg" style=3D"width:750px;max-width:100%"></div><div><br><div><img src=
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-width:100%"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Jul 21, 2023, at 4:11 AM=
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