Subject: Re: [Tigers] Transmission paint color or bare metal??

From: "e.coiner e.coiner" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2023 20:48:57 -0700 (PDT)

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I have a very late Mk1a.  No sign of blue or any paint on case.

I have never known Ford to paint a manual trans case.  They are coated with a phospate dip and that's it.

I have seen a lot of blue Ford trans but its always the DPO.

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  <p>I have a very late Mk1a.&nbsp; No sign of blue or any paint on case.</p>
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  <p>I have seen a lot of blue Ford trans but its always the DPO.</p>
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I agree, no paint on a top-loader in the Tiger!
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   <p>I have a very late Mk1a.&nbsp; No sign of blue or any paint on case.</p> 
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The only aluminum case transmissions that I=E2=80=99ve seen painted were =
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iron was a different story.

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We have to remember that the Tiger engine is a Ford Export engine.   If =
Rootes wanted the transmission painted, Ford would paint it.

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I=E2=80=99m no expert on this subject, we need owner observations to =
clarify.

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I would think transmission painted would be called out somewhere in the =
order records for the engines.

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I have some pictures of painted transmissions but no context to explain =
original or painted by a previous owner.

1                     T15KL engine =E2=80=93 trans looks black to me but =
so does the bellhousing

2                     G13KA engine =E2=80=93 trans looks black =E2=80=93 =
engine looks untouched

3                     B19KC engine Fall build =E2=80=93 trans has some =
blue

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Export engine.=C2=A0=C2=A0 If Rootes wanted the transmission painted, =
Ford would paint it.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99m =
no expert on this subject, we need owner observations to =
clarify.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I would think transmission painted would be called out =
somewhere in the order records for the engines.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have some =
pictures of painted transmissions but no context to explain original or =
painted by a previous owner.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
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Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]>T15KL engine =E2=80=93 trans looks black to me =
but so does the bellhousing<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
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=E2=80=93 engine looks untouched<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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</span></span><![endif]>B19KC engine Fall build =E2=80=93 trans has some =
blue<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The only =
aluminum case transmissions that I=E2=80=99ve seen painted were done =
during a rebuild. Never seen one painted from the factory. Cast iron was =
a different story.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
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Mk1a.&nbsp; No sign of blue or any paint on case.<o:p></o:p></p><p>I =
have never known Ford to paint a manual trans case.&nbsp; They are =
coated with a phospate dip and that's it.<o:p></o:p></p><p>I have seen a =
lot of blue Ford trans but its always the DPO.<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On May 30, 2023 at 5:36 PM Clyde =
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