Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8

From: Warren Goodman via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 03:20:33 +0000 (UTC)

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The headers Brian is talking about are a new batch made by CAT as a replica=
 item.=C2=A0 One of the local members had an original set that was reverse =
engineered. The finish question is a good one given the inclusion of LAT op=
tions as written in our United judging guidelines. As I understand it repre=
sentatives of Sunbeam clubs got together and agreed on guidelines.=C2=A0 I =
have seen a set and was on the interest list for a set for one of my cars.=
=C2=A0A local MK2 has an original set installed but I've never got down low=
 enough to look.=C2=A0

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=C2=A0 1. Re: LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating (Will Seay)
=C2=A0 2. Re: LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating (Brian Glenn)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 18:26:53 -0500
From: Will Seay <[email-masked]>
To: michael king <[email-masked]>
Cc: Brian Glenn <[email-masked]>, Tigers Den
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CAMRx0hZ=3Dzy3yJ8zeCwsbhyEcKFdFTAG-RCrzOeLUg5hzHG1x2Q@m=
ail.gmail.com>

Brian,
I would question whether your authentic LAT headers are really authentic.
The original LAT headers, as you can see in the brochure picture, connected
the stock exhaust system via a tight right-angle fitting into the
collectors.=C2=A0 For track use you would remove the block-off plate from t=
he
end of the collector.=C2=A0 For street use the block off plate would stay o=
n and
the exhaust would have to go around the tight right-angle bend.=C2=A0 That =
setup
was good for the track but really lousy for the street.=C2=A0 I suspect tha=
t
your "authentic" headers don't incorporate the right-angle feature and
therefore would fail any authenticity test with flying colors.=C2=A0 As to =
the
color and finish on the LAT headers, I had LAT headers on my car for some
time and it's my recollection that they were satin black.=C2=A0 The origina=
l
color doesn't matter much, though, because the paint burnt off in no time.

Will - 382001570
[email-masked]

On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 2:42 AM michael king <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Brian,
>
> That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.
>
> 1.=C2=A0 My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it pro=
tects
> from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps
> heat in the exhaust ports..=C2=A0 It isnt stock... If you coat to appear
> original finish its up to the judges to spot...=C2=A0 If you have these c=
oated
> and another car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...
>
> 2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on
> them.. But its a B/W brochure..=C2=A0 And..=C2=A0 Maybe they painted them=
 for the
> sales images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating=
 a
> satin black Would be the first choice...
>
> Just my .02..
>
> Brochure Image attached.
>
> MK
>
>
>
> On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>> Happy New Year everyone,
>>
>> I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have the=
m
>> thermal coated.
>>
>> Two questions.
>> 1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?
>> 2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?
>>
>> I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely
>> feedback will be most appreciated.
>> Cheers
>> B
>>
>> Brian Glenn
>> P.O. Box 578
>> Julian, CA 92036-0578
>> 714.345.9883
>>
>> B9470208LRXFE GT
>> B9471101LRXFE
>> B9472615LRXFE
>> B382000846LRXFE
>> B382001212LRXFE
>>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Michael King
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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 00:25:34 +0000 (UTC)
From: Brian Glenn <[email-masked]>
To: Larry Mayfield <[email-masked]>, Owain Lloyd
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>,=C2=A0 D or G at sbc <orr4sale@s=
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Cc: Tigers Den <[email-masked]>,=C2=A0 michael king
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating

All,Thanks for all the great input regarding thermal coating and colors.
Another option I'm exploring is installing LAT 27 Tri-Y headers instead.The=
y were originally painted black and silver to distinguish which side to ins=
tall.Does anyone know how to distinguish them without the paint?How about t=
he down pipes; does anyone have a source or a jig?
The recent articles in the CAT Tiger Tales and TEAE newsletters discussing =
Port of Entry has a British American Imports sticker for B9471362 that list=
s eight LAT additions that were installed by Import Autos, Inc. of Jackson,=
 MI.
The Suggested Retail Price included only factory installed options and deli=
very/handling.?
The Adjusted Total included all options, including LAT.
Cheers,B
Brian Glenn
 P.O. Box 578
 Julian, CA 92036-0578
 714.345.9883
=20
 B9470208LRXFE GT
 B9471101LRXFE=20
 B9472615LRXFE=20
 B382000846LRXFE=20
 B382001212LRXFE=20

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 03:16:04 PM PST, D or G at sbc =
<[email-masked]> wrote:=C2=A0=20
=20
=C2=A0 If you don't allow (taking off points) LAT headers in concours, then=
 all LAT options shouldn't be allowed, aluminum valve covers, oil pans, whe=
els, hood, etc. No Tiger came from England with any LAT options, they would=
 all be dealer installed, which wouldn't be seen very often. Maybe "High Pe=
rformance Motors?" etc. might have installed headers etc. before selling a =
car. Rootes had problems getting the LAT options for SCCA homologation. Any=
one have a dealer invoice showing LAT options on it when sold?

David

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 01:26:46 PM PST, Owain Lloyd <o=
[email-masked]> wrote:=C2=A0=20
=20
 None except the works race cars. ?Agree - headers shouldn?t be concours.? =
That said - I personally would enjoy a nice stock looking car with headers =
without worrying too much about concours points.? And on that topic - white=
 ceramic coatings look awesome and are most effective.? Also period correct=
 for race car headers.?
Happy new year Larry and all tiger members.? Let?s make 23 is better than 2=
2 (please!)
On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 at 19:30, Larry Mayfield <[email-masked]> wrote:

If judging a car, then my first requirement would always be:? Did it leave =
the factory in England with the headers or other whatcha ma call it?? Other=
wise it might be a dealer installed option but mostly I think headers were =
installed by the owners after homologation for SCCA racing or because they =
just helped the power output a smidge? Does anyone have stats on how many l=
eft the factory completion with headers as we are talking about?

?

mayf

?

From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of D or G at sbc via=
 Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 8:24 AM
To: Brian Glenn <[email-masked]>; michael king <[email-masked]=
om>
Cc: Tigers Den <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating

?

Don't know about the LAT 73 headers, but "other" headers of the period were=
 usually satin black/semi gloss black from the manufacturer.

?

David

?

On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 11:49:59 PM PST, michael king <michael.s.king=
@gmail.com> wrote:=20

?

?

Brian,

?

That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.

?

1.? My personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects f=
rom rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps hea=
t in the exhaust ports..? It isnt stock... If you coat to appear original f=
inish its up to the judges to spot...? If you have these coated and another=
 car has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...??

?

2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on them..=
 But its a B/W brochure..? And..? Maybe they painted them for the sales ima=
ges .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a satin bl=
ack Would be the first choice...

?

Just my .02..

?

Brochure Image attached.

?

MK

?

On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian Glenn via Tigers <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

Happy New Year everyone,

?

I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them t=
hermal coated.

?

Two questions.

1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?

2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?

?

I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely feed=
back will be most appreciated.

Cheers

B

?

Brian Glenn
P.O. Box 578
Julian, CA 92036-0578
714.345.9883

B9470208LRXFE GT
B9471101LRXFE=20
B9472615LRXFE=20
B382000846LRXFE=20
B382001212LRXFE

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Michael King

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The headers Brian is talking about are a new batch made by CAT as a replica=
 item.&nbsp; One of the local members had an original set that was reverse =
engineered. The finish question is a good one given the inclusion of LAT op=
tions as written in our United judging guidelines. As I understand it repre=
sentatives of Sunbeam clubs got together and agreed on guidelines.&nbsp; I =
have seen a set and was on the interest list for a set for one of my cars.&=
nbsp;<div>A local MK2 has an original set installed but I've never got down=
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r"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Today's Topics:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  1. Re: LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating (Will =
Seay)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  2. Re: LAT 73 Header Thermal Coatin=
g (Brian Glenn)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
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----------------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Messa=
ge: 1<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2023 18:26:53 -0500<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Will Seay &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqm=
ail.com" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: michael king &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:micha=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">michael.s.kin=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: Brian Glenn &lt;<a ymailt=
o=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ora_ar=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;, Tigers Den<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:tigers@a=
utox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subj=
ect: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">M=
essage-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CAMRx0hZ=3D<a y=
mailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Brian,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I w=
ould question whether your authentic LAT headers are really authentic.<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">The original LAT headers, as you can see in the broch=
ure picture, connected<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the stock exhaust system v=
ia a tight right-angle fitting into the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">collector=
s.&nbsp; For track use you would remove the block-off plate from the<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">end of the collector.&nbsp; For street use the block of=
f plate would stay on and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the exhaust would have =
to go around the tight right-angle bend.&nbsp; That setup<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">was good for the track but really lousy for the street.&nbsp; I su=
spect that<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">your "authentic" headers don't incorpo=
rate the right-angle feature and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">therefore would =
fail any authenticity test with flying colors.&nbsp; As to the<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">color and finish on the LAT headers, I had LAT headers on my =
car for some<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">time and it's my recollection that t=
hey were satin black.&nbsp; The original<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">color do=
esn't matter much, though, because the paint burnt off in no time.<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Will - 382001570<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:Tig=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 2=
:42 AM michael king &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt; Brian,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt; That is really a " refer to the judging guidelines" question.<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; 1.&nbsp; My personal =
opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; from rust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temp=
s and keeps<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; heat in the exhaust ports..&nbsp=
; It isnt stock... If you coat to appear<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ori=
ginal finish its up to the judges to spot...&nbsp; If you have these coated=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; and another car has them painted .. I'd pin=
 you the point...<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt; 2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; them.. But its a B/W brochure..&nbsp; And..&n=
bsp; Maybe they painted them for the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; sales i=
mages .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; satin black Would be the first choice...<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Just my .02..<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Brochure Image attach=
ed.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; MK<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On Monday, 2 January 2023, Bri=
an Glenn via Tigers &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt;&gt; Happy New Year everyone,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I'm purchasing a set of reproduction LAT=
 73 headers and want to have them<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; therma=
l coated.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
&gt; Two questions.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; 1. Will I get dinged=
 at concours (stock class) for coating the headers?<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt;&gt; 2. If not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I have to po=
ny up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so timely<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; feedback will be most appreciated.<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt;&gt; Cheers<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; B<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Brian Glenn<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; P.O. Box 578<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Ju=
lian, CA 92036-0578<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; 714.345.9883<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; B9470208LRXF=
E GT<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; B9471101LRXFE<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt;&gt; B9472615LRXFE<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; B382000846LR=
XFE<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; B382001212LRXFE<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; --<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Regards<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Michael King<=
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)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Brian Glenn &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:ora_=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Larry Mayfield &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;, Owain Lloyd<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a ymail=
to=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">o=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;,&nbsp; D or G at sbc &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">orr4sale@sbc=
global.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: Tigers Den &lt;<a ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tig=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;,&nbsp; michael king<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header Thermal Coating<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:1532369226.636154=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:1532369226.6361540.167270553=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">All,Thanks for all the gr=
eat input regarding thermal coating and colors.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">A=
nother option I'm exploring is installing LAT 27 Tri-Y headers instead.They=
 were originally painted black and silver to distinguish which side to inst=
all.Does anyone know how to distinguish them without the paint?How about th=
e down pipes; does anyone have a source or a jig?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>The recent articles in the CAT Tiger Tales and TEAE newsletters discussing=
 Port of Entry has a British American Imports sticker for B9471362 that lis=
ts eight LAT additions that were installed by Import Autos, Inc. of Jackson=
, MI.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The Suggested Retail Price included only fa=
ctory installed options and delivery/handling.?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">T=
he Adjusted Total included all options, including LAT.<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Cheers,B<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Brian Glenn<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"> P.O. Box 578<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> Julian, CA 92036-0578<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"> 714.345.9883<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"> B9470208LRXFE GT<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> B9471101LRXFE <br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"> B9472615LRXFE <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> B382000846=
LRXFE <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> B382001212LRXFE <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 03=
:16:04 PM PST, D or G at sbc &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; If=
 you don't allow (taking off points) LAT headers in concours, then all LAT =
options shouldn't be allowed, aluminum valve covers, oil pans, wheels, hood=
, etc. No Tiger came from England with any LAT options, they would all be d=
ealer installed, which wouldn't be seen very often. Maybe "High Performance=
 Motors?" etc. might have installed headers etc. before selling a car. Root=
es had problems getting the LAT options for SCCA homologation. Anyone have =
a dealer invoice showing LAT options on it when sold?<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">David<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 01:26:46 PM PST=
, Owain Lloyd &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:&nbsp; <br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> None except the works race=
 cars. ?Agree - headers shouldn?t be concours.? That said - I personally wo=
uld enjoy a nice stock looking car with headers without worrying too much a=
bout concours points.? And on that topic - white ceramic coatings look awes=
ome and are most effective.? Also period correct for race car headers.?<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Happy new year Larry and all tiger members.? Let?s m=
ake 23 is better than 22 (please!)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, 2 Jan =
2023 at 19:30, Larry Mayfield &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">If j=
udging a car, then my first requirement would always be:? Did it leave the =
factory in England with the headers or other whatcha ma call it?? Otherwise=
 it might be a dealer installed option but mostly I think headers were inst=
alled by the owners after homologation for SCCA racing or because they just=
 helped the power output a smidge? Does anyone have stats on how many left =
the factory completion with headers as we are talking about?<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">mayf<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Tigers &lt;<=
a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:tigers-bo=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; On Behalf Of D =
or G at sbc via Tigers<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Monday, January 2, 2=
023 8:24 AM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Brian Glenn &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ora_archy@yaho=
o.com</a>&gt;; michael king &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: Tigers Den &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers=
@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
t</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 73 Header The=
rmal Coating<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Don't know about the LAT 73 h=
eaders, but "other" headers of the period were usually satin black/semi glo=
ss black from the manufacturer.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">David<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 11:49:59 PM PST,=
 michael king &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: <br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Brian,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">That is really a " refer =
to the judging guidelines" question.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">1.? M=
y personal opinion is while the coating is preferable as it protects from r=
ust and can offer advantages of reduced engine bay temps and keeps heat in =
the exhaust ports..? It isnt stock... If you coat to appear original finish=
 its up to the judges to spot...? If you have these coated and another car =
has them painted .. I'd pin you the point...??<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">2. The LAT brochure shows what appears to be a satin black finish on t=
hem.. But its a B/W brochure..? And..? Maybe they painted them for the sale=
s images .... So take that for what its worth.. So if ceramic coating a sat=
in black Would be the first choice...<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Just=
 my .02..<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Brochure Image attached.<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">MK<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Monday, 2 January 2023, Brian=
 Glenn via Tigers &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Happ=
y New Year everyone,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I'm purchasing a set =
of reproduction LAT 73 headers and want to have them thermal coated.<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Two questions.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">1. Will I get dinged at concours (stock class) for coat=
ing the headers?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">2. If=
 not, what color were the original LAT 73 headers?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">I have to pony up the cash for the headers and coating soon, so ti=
mely feedback will be most appreciated.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">B<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Brian Glenn<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>P.O. Box 578<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Julian, CA 92036-0578<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">714.345.9883<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">B9470208LRXFE GT<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">B9471101LRXFE <br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">B9472615LRXFE <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">B382000846LRXFE <br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">B382001212LRXFE<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">-- <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Regards<br></div><div d=
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