Subject: Re: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question

From: Clyde Mclaughlin <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 15:04:10 -0500

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The mk11 chassic mount did not really come down enough, but better. I
fabricated a duplicate to the mk11 and welded it in place on the left side
frame, I cut the the bracket from the axle and repositioned it on the other
side and playing with the angles and positioning of the frame mount I was
able to get the rod very close to ideal.  I did have to work around the
brake line on the right side and also extended the length of the rod
slightly.  I have found that the car now transitions much more evenly on
turns in both directions especially with the power on with LSD.

On Thu, Dec 1, 2022, 12:08 PM Jim D'Amelio via Tigers <[email-masked]=
t>
wrote:

> Theo,
>
> Thanks for the response.  I understand how the difference was with the
> MKII and it can't be changed without the MKII parts and some modification=
s
> to make it more level.  Just needed to know the orientation of the bar.
>
> Jim D
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Theo Smit <[email-masked]>
> Date: 12/1/22 11:19 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Jim D'Amelio <[email-masked]>
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question
>
> The =E2=80=9Cwrong from the factory=E2=80=9D part is that the frame attac=
hment and the
> axle attachment should have been done on the opposite sides, which you
> cannot fix just by flipping the bar around. A second and more important
> issue is that the frame mounting arm should have been extended to positio=
n
> the panhard bar horizontally at normal ride height. But that requires mor=
e
> structure back there to support the lateral loads or things will just tea=
r
> apart over time (as they already do).
>
> Cheers,
> Theo
>
> On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:12 AM, Jim D'Amelio via Tigers <[email-masked]=
t>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> It's been so many years since I removed it, so I don't remember.   Does
> the adjuster end of the rod go into the frame bracket or the diff bracket=
?
> Does it really matter which end goes where? I've read all the different
> view on the rod being in the wrong position from the factory,  but can't
> find a picture of a stock bar mounted.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim D
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"auto">The mk11 chassic mount did not really co=
me down enough, but better. I fabricated a duplicate to the mk11 and welded=
 it in place on the left side frame, I cut the the bracket from the axle an=
d repositioned it on the other side and playing with the angles and positio=
ning of the frame mount I was able to get the rod very close to ideal.=C2=
=A0 I did have to work around the brake line on the right side and also ext=
ended the length of the rod slightly.=C2=A0 I have found that the car now t=
ransitions much more evenly on turns in both directions especially with the=
 power on with LSD. =C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 1, 2022, 12:08 PM Jim D&#39;Ame=
lio via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left=
-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">Theo,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Thanks for the response.=C2=A0 I understand how the difference wa=
s with the MKII and it can&#39;t be changed without the MKII parts and some=
 modifications to make it more level.=C2=A0 Just needed to know the orienta=
tion of the bar.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">J=
im D</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div id=3D"m_6898089465881761310m_1885758681907028189co=
mposer_signature" dir=3D"auto"><div style=3D"font-size:12px;color:rgb(87,87=
,87)" dir=3D"auto">Sent from my Galaxy</div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></d=
iv><div><br></div><div align=3D"left" dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-size:100%;=
color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: T=
heo Smit &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; </div><div>Date: 12/1/22  11:19 AM  (GMT-05:0=
0) </div><div>To: Jim D&#39;Amelio &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jimdamelio@verizon=
.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <=
/div><div>Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> </div><div>Subject: Re: [Tigers]=
 Panhard Rod Question </div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">The =E2=80=9Cwrong from the factory=E2=80=9D part is that the=
 frame attachment and the axle attachment should have been done on the oppo=
site sides, which you cannot fix just by flipping the bar around. A second =
and more important issue is that the frame mounting arm should have been ex=
tended to position the panhard bar horizontally at normal ride height. But =
that requires more structure back there to support the lateral loads or thi=
ngs will just tear apart over time (as they already do).=C2=A0</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Theo</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:12 AM=
, Jim D&#39;Amelio via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=
=BF<div dir=3D"auto">It&#39;s been so many years since I removed it, so I d=
on&#39;t remember.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Does the adjuster end of the rod go into the=
 frame bracket or the diff bracket?=C2=A0 Does it really matter which end g=
oes where? I&#39;ve read all the different view on the rod being in the wro=
ng position from the factory,=C2=A0 but can&#39;t find a picture of a stock=
 bar mounted.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks=C2=
=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Jim D</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div=
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On 12/1/2022 12:04 PM, Clyde Mclaughlin wrote:
> fabricated a duplicate to the mk11 and welded it in place on the left 
> side frame, I cut the the bracket from the axle and repositioned it on 
> the other side and playing with the angles and positioning of the 
> frame mount I was able to get the rod very close to ideal.  I did have 
> to work around the brake line on the right side and also extended the 
> length of the rod slightly.  I have found that the car now transitions 
> much more evenly on turns in both directions especially with the power 
> on with LSD.

As many of you already know, I manufacture a "Kit" that repairs and 
replaces the woefully weak OEM Panhard frame mount.  It is symmetrical 
so that it will mount on either side and has three vertical holes for 
elevation to locate the frame rod end for improved operational 
performance.  So it can be used with the OEM Rod as is, or to relocate 
the axle bracket as Clyde has done to improve left right transitions.  
It's a shame that the factory waited two + years to correct this 
seemingly minor design error that they discovered during Mk I prototype 
testing.  I've done several of these conversions over the years with 
good results.

>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2022, 12:08 PM Jim D'Amelio via Tigers 
> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>     Theo,
>
>     Thanks for the response.  I understand how the difference was with
>     the MKII and it can't be changed without the MKII parts and some
>     modifications to make it more level.  Just needed to know the
>     orientation of the bar.
>
>     Jim D
>
>
>
>     Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
>     The “wrong from the factory” part is that the frame attachment and
>     the axle attachment should have been done on the opposite sides,
>     which you cannot fix just by flipping the bar around. A second and
>     more important issue is that the frame mounting arm should have
>     been extended to position the panhard bar horizontally at normal
>     ride height. But that requires more structure back there to
>     support the lateral loads or things will just tear apart over time
>     (as they already do).
>
>     Cheers,
>     Theo
>
>>     On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:12 AM, Jim D'Amelio via Tigers
>>     <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>     It's been so many years since I removed it, so I don't remember. 
>>      Does the adjuster end of the rod go into the frame bracket or
>>     the diff bracket?  Does it really matter which end goes where?
>>     I've read all the different view on the rod being in the wrong
>>     position from the factory,  but can't find a picture of a stock
>>     bar mounted.
>>
>>     Thanks
>>
>>     Jim D
>>
>>
>>
>>     Sent from my Galaxy
>>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/1/2022 12:04 PM, Clyde Mclaughlin
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAF6p=0ARD+Bi=[email-masked]">
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        <div dir="auto">The mk11 chassic mount did not really come down
          enough, but better. I fabricated a duplicate to the mk11 and
          welded it in place on the left side frame, I cut the the
          bracket from the axle and repositioned it on the other side
          and playing with the angles and positioning of the frame mount
          I was able to get the rod very close to ideal.  I did have to
          work around the brake line on the right side and also extended
          the length of the rod slightly.  I have found that the car now
          transitions much more evenly on turns in both directions
          especially with the power on with LSD.  <br>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><font color="#800040">As many of you already know, I manufacture
        a "Kit" that repairs and replaces the woefully weak OEM Panhard
        frame mount.  It is symmetrical so that it will mount on either
        side and has three vertical holes for elevation to locate the
        frame rod end for improved operational performance.  So it can
        be used with the OEM Rod as is, or to relocate the axle bracket
        as Clyde has done to improve left right transitions.  It's a
        shame that the factory waited two + years to correct this
        seemingly minor design error that they discovered during Mk I
        prototype testing.  I've done several of these conversions over
        the years with good results.</font></p>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAF6p=0ARD+Bi=[email-masked]"><br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 1, 2022, 12:08 PM
          Jim D'Amelio via Tigers &lt;<a
            href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
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          <div dir="auto">
            <div dir="auto">Theo,</div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto">Thanks for the response.  I understand how
              the difference was with the MKII and it can't be changed
              without the MKII parts and some modifications to make it
              more level.  Just needed to know the orientation of the
              bar. </div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto">Jim D</div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
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              <div>-------- Original message --------</div>
              <div>From: Theo Smit &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
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              <div>To: Jim D'Amelio &lt;<a
                  href="mailto:[email-masked]" rel="noreferrer"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
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              <div>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question </div>
              <div><br>
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            <div dir="ltr">The “wrong from the factory” part is that the
              frame attachment and the axle attachment should have been
              done on the opposite sides, which you cannot fix just by
              flipping the bar around. A second and more important issue
              is that the frame mounting arm should have been extended
              to position the panhard bar horizontally at normal ride
              height. But that requires more structure back there to
              support the lateral loads or things will just tear apart
              over time (as they already do). </div>
            <div dir="ltr"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="ltr">Cheers,</div>
            <div dir="ltr">Theo</div>
            <div dir="ltr"><br>
              <blockquote type="cite">On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:12 AM, Jim
                D'Amelio via Tigers &lt;<a
                  href="mailto:[email-masked]" rel="noreferrer"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                wrote:<br>
                <br>
              </blockquote>
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              <div dir="ltr">
                <div dir="auto">It's been so many years since I removed
                  it, so I don't remember.   Does the adjuster end of
                  the rod go into the frame bracket or the diff
                  bracket?  Does it really matter which end goes where?
                  I've read all the different view on the rod being in
                  the wrong position from the factory,  but can't find a
                  picture of a stock bar mounted.</div>
                <div dir="auto"><br>
                </div>
                <div dir="auto">Thanks </div>
                <div dir="auto"><br>
                </div>
                <div dir="auto">Jim D</div>
                <div dir="auto"><br>
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Is the side the panhard rod attaches really matter?
I guess that maybe if it is at an angle (like on Tigers) it could help push=
 down the side that
tries to lift with engine torque but that's not really its purpose.
Gary

>     On 12/01/2022 3:04 PM Clyde Mclaughlin <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
>=20
>=20
>     The mk11 chassic mount did not really come down enough, but better. I=
 fabricated a duplicate to the mk11 and welded it in place on the left side=
 frame, I cut the the bracket from the axle and repositioned it on the othe=
r side and playing with the angles and positioning of the frame mount I was=
 able to get the rod very close to ideal.  I did have to work around the br=
ake line on the right side and also extended the length of the rod slightly=
.  I have found that the car now transitions much more evenly on turns in b=
oth directions especially with the power on with LSD. =20
>=20
>     On Thu, Dec 1, 2022, 12:08 PM Jim D'Amelio via Tigers <[email-masked]=
eam.net mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
>=20
>         > >         Theo,
> >=20
> >         Thanks for the response.  I understand how the difference was w=
ith the MKII and it can't be changed without the MKII parts and some modifi=
cations to make it more level.  Just needed to know the orientation of the =
bar.=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >         From: Theo Smit <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] >
> >         To: Jim D'Amelio <[email-masked] mailto:jimdamelio@veri=
zon.net >
> >         Cc: [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
> >=20
> >=20
> >         The =E2=80=9Cwrong from the factory=E2=80=9D part is that the f=
rame attachment and the axle attachment should have been done on the opposi=
te sides, which you cannot fix just by flipping the bar around. A second an=
d more important issue is that the frame mounting arm should have been exte=
nded to position the panhard bar horizontally at normal ride height. But th=
at requires more structure back there to support the lateral loads or thing=
s will just tear apart over time (as they already do).=20
> >=20
> >         Cheers,
> >         Theo
> >=20
> >=20
> >             > > > On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:12 AM, Jim D'Amelio via Tigers <=
[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >         > >=20
> >             > > >             It's been so many years since I removed i=
t, so I don't remember.   Does the adjuster end of the rod go into the fram=
e bracket or the diff bracket?  Does it really matter which end goes where?=
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   Is the side the panhard rod attaches really matter?
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   I guess that maybe if it is at an angle (like on Tigers) it could help p=
ush down the side that
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   tries to lift with engine torque but that's not really its purpose.
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   Gary
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    On 12/01/2022 3:04 PM Clyde Mclaughlin &lt;[email-masked]=
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     The mk11 chassic mount did not really come down enough, but better. I =
fabricated a duplicate to the mk11 and welded it in place on the left side =
frame, I cut the the bracket from the axle and repositioned it on the other=
 side and playing with the angles and positioning of the frame mount I was =
able to get the rod very close to ideal.&nbsp; I did have to work around th=
e brake line on the right side and also extended the length of the rod slig=
htly.&nbsp; I have found that the car now transitions much more evenly on t=
urns in both directions especially with the power on with LSD. &nbsp;
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     On Thu, Dec 1, 2022, 12:08 PM Jim D'Amelio via Tigers &lt;<a target=3D=
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       Theo,
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       Thanks for the response.&nbsp; I understand how the difference was w=
ith the MKII and it can't be changed without the MKII parts and some modifi=
cations to make it more level.&nbsp; Just needed to know the orientation of=
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       Jim D
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        Sent from my Galaxy
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        Date: 12/1/22 11:19 AM (GMT-05:00)
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        Subject: Re: [Tigers] Panhard Rod Question
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       The =E2=80=9Cwrong from the factory=E2=80=9D part is that the frame =
attachment and the axle attachment should have been done on the opposite si=
des, which you cannot fix just by flipping the bar around. A second and mor=
e important issue is that the frame mounting arm should have been extended =
to position the panhard bar horizontally at normal ride height. But that re=
quires more structure back there to support the lateral loads or things wil=
l just tear apart over time (as they already do).&nbsp;
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        On Dec 1, 2022, at 9:12 AM, Jim D'Amelio via Tigers &lt;<a target=
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         It's been so many years since I removed it, so I don't remember.&n=
bsp; &nbsp;Does the adjuster end of the rod go into the frame bracket or th=
e diff bracket?&nbsp; Does it really matter which end goes where? I've read=
 all the different view on the rod being in the wrong position from the fac=
tory,&nbsp; but can't find a picture of a stock bar mounted.
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         Thanks&nbsp;
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