Subject: Re: [Tigers] Center grille badge

From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 19:38:47 -0400

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Andy

                I'm not familiar enough with the clips that hold the badge
to know your best option.

These days most badges are held on by double back foam tape.  I have used
foam tape to attach badges on newer cars, works well.

You need to decide your best option - modify so the clips work or use foam
tape.

I believe RTV is too messy and not reliable enough.   You need to completely
cover the surfaces, that way RTV creates a vacuum on the badge after hold
the badge firmly in place until the silicone volcanizes.   The problem I see
with this is vibration will loosen the silicon eventually and we have plenty
of vibrations.  

The foam tape has some compliance to vibration.   You just need to get both
surfaces clean for the tape to stick well.

As with all the badges and emblems on the Sunbeam, you need to check them.
I nearly lost the 2 rear fender badges because the stud started to give way.
Had to solder the studs back in place and I added a little foam tape to help
keep them on the fender.

Ron Fraser

From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Andy Walker
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2022 3:51 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Tigers] Center grille badge

Hey, everyone:

I went to replace my tired-looking center grille badge on my Mk1A with a
repro badge, but the repro badge doesn't have the inset side like the
original to accept the stock retaining clips.  If I remove the clips, the
repro badge fits perfectly into the hole but there is no means of retaining
it there.

For those of you out there who have replaced these, how did you affix the
repro badge?  I can see no way to attach it by using the stock clips without
first modifying the sides of the badge to accept the clips.  Are we left
with just using something like a silicone gasket product to hold it in
place?

Thanks for any suggestions,

Andy Walker

Edmond, OK

B382001600LRXFE

TAC #740

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class=3DMsoNormal>Andy<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I&#8217;m not familiar enough with =
the clips that hold the badge to know your best option.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>These days =
most badges are held on by double back foam tape.&nbsp; I have used foam =
tape to attach badges on newer cars, works well.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>You need to =
decide your best option &#8211; modify so the clips work or use foam =
tape.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I believe RTV is too messy and not reliable =
enough.&nbsp;&nbsp; You need to completely cover the surfaces, that way =
RTV creates a vacuum on the badge after hold the badge firmly in place =
until the silicone volcanizes.&nbsp;&nbsp; The problem I see with this =
is vibration will loosen the silicon eventually and we have plenty of =
vibrations.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The foam =
tape has some compliance to vibration.&nbsp;&nbsp; You just need to get =
both surfaces clean for the tape to stick well.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>As with all =
the badges and emblems on the Sunbeam, you need to check =
them.&nbsp;&nbsp; I nearly lost the 2 rear fender badges because the =
stud started to give way.&nbsp;&nbsp; Had to solder the studs back in =
place and I added a little foam tape to help keep them on the =
fender.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andy =
Walker<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 23, 2022 3:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Center grille =
badge<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hey, =
everyone:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I went to replace my tired-looking center grille badge =
on my Mk1A with a repro badge, but the repro badge doesn&#8217;t have =
the inset side like the original to accept the stock retaining =
clips.&nbsp; If I remove the clips, the repro badge fits perfectly into =
the hole but there is no means of retaining it there.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>For those of =
you out there who have replaced these, how did you affix the repro =
badge?&nbsp; I can see no way to attach it by using the stock clips =
without first modifying the sides of the badge to accept the =
clips.&nbsp; Are we left with just using something like a silicone =
gasket product to hold it in place?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks for =
any suggestions,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Andy =
Walker<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Edmond, OK<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>B382001600LRXFE<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>TAC =
#740<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>
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From: D or G at sbc via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2022 00:55:56 +0000 (UTC)

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 Don't cut the badge, the cuts will show up from the front. If you glue/sil=
icon it on, be careful what you use, some adhesives will mess up the badge =
paint. I would try a thin double-sided tape.
David

    On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 03:34:43 PM PDT, Andy Walker <awtiger@co=
x.net> wrote: =20
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Hey, everyone:

 =C2=A0

I went to replace my tired-looking center grille badge on my Mk1A with a re=
pro badge, but the repro badge doesn=E2=80=99t have the inset side like the=
 original to accept the stock retaining clips.=C2=A0 If I remove the clips,=
 the repro badge fits perfectly into the hole but there is no means of reta=
ining it there.

 =C2=A0

For those of you out there who have replaced these, how did you affix the r=
epro badge?=C2=A0 I can see no way to attach it by using the stock clips wi=
thout first modifying the sides of the badge to accept the clips.=C2=A0 Are=
 we left with just using something like a silicone gasket product to hold i=
t in place?

 =C2=A0

Andy Walker

Edmond, OK

B382001600LRXFE

TAC #740

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Don't cut the badge, the cut=
s will show up from the front. If you glue/silicon it on, be careful what y=
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                    On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 03:34:43 PM PDT, Andy Wa=
lker &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydpb62ecdc6yiv0700493799"><div><div class=
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799MsoNormal">Hey, everyone:</p><p class=3D"ydpb62ecdc6yiv0700493799MsoNorm=
al"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpb62ecdc6yiv0700493799MsoNormal">I went to rep=
lace my tired-looking center grille badge on my Mk1A with a repro badge, bu=
t the repro badge doesn=E2=80=99t have the inset side like the original to =
accept the stock retaining clips.&nbsp; If I remove the clips, the repro ba=
dge fits perfectly into the hole but there is no means of retaining it ther=
e.</p><p class=3D"ydpb62ecdc6yiv0700493799MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D=
"ydpb62ecdc6yiv0700493799MsoNormal">For those of you out there who have rep=
laced these, how did you affix the repro badge?&nbsp; I can see no way to a=
ttach it by using the stock clips without first modifying the sides of the =
badge to accept the clips.&nbsp; Are we left with just using something like=
 a silicone gasket product to hold it in place?</p><p class=3D"ydpb62ecdc6y=
iv0700493799MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpb62ecdc6yiv0700493799MsoNo=
rmal">Thanks for any suggestions,</p><p class=3D"ydpb62ecdc6yiv0700493799Ms=
oNormal">Andy Walker</p><p class=3D"ydpb62ecdc6yiv0700493799MsoNormal">Edmo=
nd, OK</p><p class=3D"ydpb62ecdc6yiv0700493799MsoNormal">B382001600LRXFE</p=
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From: "Andy Walker" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2022 22:40:57 -0500

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Hey, guys:

=20

Thanks a million for the suggestion regarding my center grille badge.  I =
used some clear double-sided foam Gorilla tape.  I=E2=80=99ll bet =
it=E2=80=99ll stay in place with that stuff!!!!

=20

Andy Walker

=20

From: D or G at sbc [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2022 7:56 PM
To: [email-masked]; Andy Walker <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Center grille badge

=20

Don't cut the badge, the cuts will show up from the front. If you =
glue/silicon it on, be careful what you use, some adhesives will mess up =
the badge paint. I would try a thin double-sided tape.

=20

David

=20

On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 03:34:43 PM PDT, Andy Walker =

=20

=20

Hey, everyone:

=20

I went to replace my tired-looking center grille badge on my Mk1A with a =
repro badge, but the repro badge doesn=E2=80=99t have the inset side =
like the original to accept the stock retaining clips.  If I remove the =
clips, the repro badge fits perfectly into the hole but there is no =
means of retaining it there.

=20

For those of you out there who have replaced these, how did you affix =
the repro badge?  I can see no way to attach it by using the stock clips =
without first modifying the sides of the badge to accept the clips.  Are =
we left with just using something like a silicone gasket product to hold =
it in place?

=20

Andy Walker

Edmond, OK

B382001600LRXFE

TAC #740

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>Hey, guys:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Thanks a million for the suggestion regarding my center grille =
badge.=C2=A0 I used some clear double-sided foam Gorilla tape.=C2=A0 =
I=E2=80=99ll bet it=E2=80=99ll stay in place with that =
stuff!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Andy Walker<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> D =
or G at sbc [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, =
August 23, 2022 7:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; Andy Walker =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Center grille =
badge<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>Don't cut =
the badge, the cuts will show up from the front. If you glue/silicon it =
on, be careful what you use, some adhesives will mess up the badge =
paint. I would try a thin double-sided =
tape.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue"'>David<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"ydpb62ecdc6yahoo_quoted_1530446385"><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 03:34:43 PM PDT, =
Andy Walker &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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class=3Dydpb62ecdc6yiv0700493799msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>Hey, everyone:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydpb62ecdc6yiv0700493799msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydpb62ecdc6yiv0700493799msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>I =
went to replace my tired-looking center grille badge on my Mk1A with a =
repro badge, but the repro badge doesn=E2=80=99t have the inset side =
like the original to accept the stock retaining clips.&nbsp; If I remove =
the clips, the repro badge fits perfectly into the hole but there is no =
means of retaining it there.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydpb62ecdc6yiv0700493799msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydpb62ecdc6yiv0700493799msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>For those of you out there who have replaced these, =
how did you affix the repro badge?&nbsp; I can see no way to attach it =
by using the stock clips without first modifying the sides of the badge =
to accept the clips.&nbsp; Are we left with just using something like a =
silicone gasket product to hold it in place?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
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class=3Dydpb62ecdc6yiv0700493799msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>Thanks for any suggestions,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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Neue";color:#26282A'>B382001600LRXFE<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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Neue";color:#26282A'>TAC #740<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p =
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