Subject: [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information

From: Brian Glenn via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 04:58:24 +0000 (UTC)

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All,I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article What is a Sunbeam Tiger? listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazine.In it, he states "While about 80% of the original Tiger sales were located on the west coast, ownership opportunities now exist nationwide."While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I had never heard it quantified.Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retail outlet distribution.
Does anyone know from where this 80% figure was obtained?Does anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentation on ports of entry and retail distribution?Thanks in advance.CheersB
Brian Glenn
 P.O. Box 578
 Julian, CA 92036-0578
 714.345.9883
 
 B9470208LRXFE GT
 B9471101LRXFE 
 B9472615LRXFE 
 B382000846LRXFE 
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ked data on delivery ports and retail outlet distribution.</div><div dir=3D=
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From: steve wick via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 14:47:55 +0000

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I don't have definitive information, but the cars could have been all deliv=
ered to east coast ports, then transported from there. Where they would hav=
e been sold was just a function of where the dealers in the network were lo=
cated.

Steve

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igers <[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 9:58 PM
To: Tigers Den <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information

All,
I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article What is a Sunbeam Tiger? lis=
ted on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazine.
In it, he states "While about 80% of the original Tiger sales were located =
on the west coast, ownership opportunities now exist nationwide."
While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I had nev=
er heard it quantified.
Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retail outl=
et distribution.

Does anyone know from where this 80% figure was obtained?
Does anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentation on p=
orts of entry and retail distribution?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers
B

Brian Glenn
P.O. Box 578
Julian, CA 92036-0578
714.345.9883

B9470208LRXFE GT
B9471101LRXFE
B9472615LRXFE
B382000846LRXFE
B382001212LRXFE

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I don't have definitive information, but the cars could have been all deliv=
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e been sold was just a function of where the dealers in the network were lo=
cated.</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">All,</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article <i>What is =
a Sunbeam Tiger?</i> listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cob=
ra Magazine.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">In it, he states &quot;<span style=3D"color:rgb(10,10,10);=
 font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align:justify">While about 80=
% of the original Tiger sales were located on the west coast, ownership opp=
ortunities now exist nationwide.</span>&quot;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to Cali=
fornia, I had never heard it quantified.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery port=
s and retail outlet distribution.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Does anyone know from where this 80% figure was obtained?<=
/div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Does anyone have additional or contradictory information/d=
ocumentation on ports of entry and retail distribution?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks in advance.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">B</div>
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<div class=3D"x_ydp7d4816fsignature">Brian Glenn<br>
P.O. Box 578<br>
Julian, CA 92036-0578<br>
714.345.9883<br>
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I have this pic from Norm showing what he said is the first Tiger shipment
to long Beach Ca.  Don't have any other details other than that

Jim

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From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of steve wick via
Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2022 7:48 AM
To: Tigers Den <[email-masked]>; Brian Glenn <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information

I don't have definitive information, but the cars could have been all
delivered to east coast ports, then transported from there. Where they would
have been sold was just a function of where the dealers in the network were
located.

Steve

  _____  

From: Tigers <[email-masked]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 9:58 PM
Subject: [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information 

All,

I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article What is a Sunbeam Tiger?
listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazine.

In it, he states "While about 80% of the original Tiger sales were located
on the west coast, ownership opportunities now exist nationwide."

While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I had
never heard it quantified.

Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retail
outlet distribution.

Does anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentation on
ports of entry and retail distribution?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers

B

Brian Glenn
P.O. Box 578
Julian, CA 92036-0578
714.345.9883

B9470208LRXFE GT
B9471101LRXFE 
B9472615LRXFE 
B382000846LRXFE 
B382001212LRXFE

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>I have this =
pic from Norm showing what he said is the first Tiger shipment to long =
Beach Ca.&nbsp; Don&#8217;t have any other details other than =
that<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>B382000446LRXFE<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>steve wick via =
Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 23, 2022 7:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
Tigers Den &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Brian Glenn =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Original =
Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I don't have definitive =
information, but the cars could have been all delivered to east coast =
ports, then transported from there. Where they would have been sold was =
just a function of where the dealers in the network were =
located.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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size=3D2 width=3D"98%" align=3Dcenter></div><div id=3DdivRplyFwdMsg><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'color:black'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'color:black'> Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
et</a>&gt; on behalf of Brian Glenn via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b=
>Sent:</b> Monday, August 22, 2022 9:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tigers Den =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b=
>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales =
Information</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'>I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article <i>What is a =
Sunbeam Tiger?</i> listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from =
Cobra Magazine.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'>In it, he states &quot;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0A0A0A'>W=
hile about 80% of the original Tiger sales were located on the west =
coast, ownership opportunities now exist nationwide.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'>&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'>While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to =
California, I had never heard it =
quantified.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'>Our Tiger =
research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retail outlet =
distribution.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'>Does anyone know from where this 80% figure was =
obtained?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'>Does =
anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentation on =
ports of entry and retail =
distribution?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'>Thanks in =
advance.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'>B<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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<br>B9472615LRXFE <br>B382000846LRXFE =
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For sure they came into the port at LA(Long Beach?).

The 80% (I think) is just a number out of his A$$...
He was back east or Canada, he didn't get one new, just many years later (I think).
The hot rod scene was California and the weather definetly favors a convertible.

But he was right, most came to the west coast due to demand.  That is why you
see more MK2s back east, by the time they came out, everyone in the west already
had a MK1  with a 289 (info from the late Paul Reisentz).
Gary

>     On 08/23/2022 10:47 AM steve wick via Tigers <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> 
>     I don't have definitive information, but the cars could have been all delivered to east coast ports, then transported from there. Where they would have been sold was just a function of where the dealers in the network were located.
> 
>     Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------
>     From: Tigers <[email-masked]> on behalf of Brian Glenn via Tigers <[email-masked]>
>     I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article What is a Sunbeam Tiger? listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazine.
>     In it, he states "While about 80% of the original Tiger sales were located on the west coast, ownership opportunities now exist nationwide."
>     While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I had never heard it quantified.
>     Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retail outlet distribution.
> 
>     Does anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentation on ports of entry and retail distribution?
>     Thanks in advance.
>     Cheers
>     B
> 
>     Brian Glenn
>     P.O. Box 578
>     Julian, CA 92036-0578
>     714.345.9883
> 
>     B9470208LRXFE GT
>     B9471101LRXFE
>     B9472615LRXFE
>     B382000846LRXFE
>     B382001212LRXFE
>     Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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   For sure they came into the port at LA(Long Beach?).
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   The 80% (I think) is just a number out of his A$$...
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   He was back east or Canada, he didn't get one new, just many years later (I think).
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   The hot rod scene was California and the weather definetly favors a convertible.
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   But he was right, most came to the west coast due to demand.&nbsp; That is why you 
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   see more MK2s back east, by the time they came out, everyone in the west already
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   had a MK1&nbsp; with a 289 (info from the late Paul Reisentz).
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    <span style="font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><strong>From:</strong> Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Brian Glenn via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, August 22, 2022 9:58 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Tigers Den &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><strong>Subject:</strong> [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information</span>
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      I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article <em>What is a Sunbeam Tiger?</em> listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazine.
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      In it, he states "<span style="color: #0a0a0a; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;">While about 80% of the original Tiger sales were located on the west coast, ownership opportunities now exist nationwide.</span>"
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      While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I had never heard it quantified.
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      Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retail outlet distribution.
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      Does anyone know from where this 80% figure was obtained?
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      Does anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentation on ports of entry and retail distribution?
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From: "Ron Fraser" <[email-masked]>
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Brian

                Seems to me I saw something on that once =E2=80=93 if I =
can find it.

=20

Tiger by Mike Taylor has a sales chart on pg. 201 but does not break it =
down to East or West coast sales.

=20

Ron Fraser

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From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Brian Glenn =
via Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2022 12:58 AM
To: Tigers Den <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information

=20

All,

I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article What is a Sunbeam Tiger? =
listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazine.

In it, he states "While about 80% of the original Tiger sales were =
located on the west coast, ownership opportunities now exist =
nationwide."

While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I had =
never heard it quantified.

Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retail =
outlet distribution.

=20

Does anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentation =
on ports of entry and retail distribution?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers

B

=20

Brian Glenn
P.O. Box 578
Julian, CA 92036-0578
714.345.9883

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Mike Taylor has a sales chart on pg. 201 but does not break it down to =
East or West coast sales.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Glenn =
via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 23, 2022 12:58 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Tigers Den =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Original Tiger =
Port of Entry and Sales Information<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
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o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I was =
reviewing a well researched 1995 article <i>What is a Sunbeam Tiger?</i> =
listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra =
Magazine.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>In it, he =
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hile about 80% of the original Tiger sales were located on the west =
coast, ownership opportunities now exist nationwide.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>&quot;<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>While I =
knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I had never =
heard it quantified.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Our Tiger =
research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retail outlet =
distribution.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Does =
anyone know from where this 80% figure was =
obtained?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Does =
anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentation on =
ports of entry and retail =
distribution?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Thanks in =
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Thanks for this very interesting commentary.

I=E2=80=99ve always wondered how Sunbeam distribution across the country =
took place.  My Mk1a is
An Oklahoma car for example.

Here in Atlanta there were only a few Tigers on the streets in the =
60=E2=80=99s. I don=E2=80=99t know if there
Was a dealership or not. Used Tigers and Alpines were sold out of the =
Atlanta newspaper=E2=80=99s classified
ads for =E2=80=9CBritish cars.=E2=80=9D=20

That=E2=80=99s where I found my first Tiger, a Midnight Blue Mk1.

I recall reading about MkII=E2=80=99s but seeing just one. I=E2=80=99ve =
come to appreciate MkII styling
But back in the day the absence of side =E2=80=9Cstripe=E2=80=9D left me =
skeptical.

Allan Ballard
-Atlanta

> On Aug 23, 2022, at 2:07 PM, GARY WINBLAD <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>=20
> For sure they came into the port at LA(Long Beach?).=20
>=20
> The 80% (I think) is just a number out of his A$$...=20
> He was back east or Canada, he didn't get one new, just many years =
later (I think).=20
> The hot rod scene was California and the weather definetly favors a =
convertible.=20
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> But he was right, most came to the west coast due to demand.  That is =
why you=20
> see more MK2s back east, by the time they came out, everyone in the =
west already=20
> had a MK1  with a 289 (info from the late Paul Reisentz).=20
> Gary=20
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>> On 08/23/2022 10:47 AM steve wick via Tigers <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> I don't have definitive information, but the cars could have been all =
delivered to east coast ports, then transported from there. Where they =
would have been sold was just a function of where the dealers in the =
network were located.
>>=20
>> Steve
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> From: Tigers <[email-masked]> on behalf of Brian Glenn =
via Tigers <[email-masked]>
>> I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article What is a Sunbeam =
Tiger? listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra =
Magazine.
>> While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I =
had never heard it quantified.
>> Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery ports and =
retail outlet distribution.
>> Does anyone have additional or contradictory =
information/documentation on ports of entry and retail distribution?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Cheers
>> B
>>=20
>> Brian Glenn=20
>> P.O. Box 578=20
>> Julian, CA 92036-0578=20
>> 714.345.9883=20
>>=20
>> B9470208LRXFE GT=20
>> B9471101LRXFE=20
>> B9472615LRXFE=20
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class=3D"">Thanks for this very interesting commentary.<div class=3D""><br=
 class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve always wondered how =
Sunbeam distribution across the country took place. &nbsp;My Mk1a =
is</div><div class=3D"">An Oklahoma car for example.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Here in Atlanta there =
were only a few Tigers on the streets in the 60=E2=80=99s. I don=E2=80=99t=
 know if there</div><div class=3D"">Was a dealership or not. Used Tigers =
and Alpines were sold out of the Atlanta newspaper=E2=80=99s =
classified</div><div class=3D"">ads for =E2=80=9CBritish =
cars.=E2=80=9D&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">That=E2=80=99s where I found my first Tiger, a Midnight Blue =
Mk1.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I recall =
reading about MkII=E2=80=99s but seeing just one. I=E2=80=99ve come to =
appreciate MkII styling</div><div class=3D"">But back in the day the =
absence of side =E2=80=9Cstripe=E2=80=9D left me skeptical.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Allan Ballard</div><div =
class=3D"">-Atlanta</div><div class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Aug 23, 2022, at 2:07 PM, =
GARY WINBLAD &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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   The 80% (I think) is just a number out of his A$$...
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   He was back east or Canada, he didn't get one new, just many years =
later (I think).
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   The hot rod scene was California and the weather definetly favors a =
convertible.
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   But he was right, most came to the west coast due to demand.&nbsp; =
That is why you=20
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   see more MK2s back east, by the time they came out, everyone in the =
west already
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   had a MK1&nbsp; with a 289 (info from the late Paul Reisentz).
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   Gary
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    I don't have definitive information, but the cars could have been =
all delivered to east coast ports, then transported from there. Where =
they would have been sold was just a function of where the dealers in =
the network were located.
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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      All,
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      I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article <em class=3D"">What =
is a Sunbeam Tiger?</em> listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski =
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      In it, he states "<span style=3D"color: #0a0a0a; font-family: =
Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;" class=3D"">While about =
80% of the original Tiger sales were located on the west coast, =
ownership opportunities now exist nationwide.</span>"
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      While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to California, =
I had never heard it quantified.
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">
      Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery ports and =
retail outlet distribution.
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I thought Tigers were sent to the dealers who ordered them.=C2=A0 For insta=
nce, in little old Vermont there were very few dealers who sold foreign car=
s.=C2=A0 Yankees wanted US steel.=C2=A0 But, I believe there were at least =
2 Sunbeam dealers.=C2=A0 The larger one was in a city of 35,000 people. The=
 2nd was in a town of about 2,000.=C2=A0 Needless to say these places sold =
very few Sunbeams.=C2=A0 But, I know that the larger dealer did sell=C2=A0 =
a few. If these dealers weren't ordering Tigers, they wouldn't be shipping =
them to Vermont (or any other location that didn't have buyers).=C2=A0 Appa=
rently Calif. had buyers.
In a message dated 8/23/2022 4:34:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, garywinblad@=
comcast.net writes:=C2=A0
For sure they came into the port at LA(Long Beach?). =C2=A0The 80% (I think=
) is just a number out of his A$$... He was back east or Canada, he didn't =
get one new, just many years later (I think). The hot rod scene was Califor=
nia and the weather definetly favors a convertible. =C2=A0But he was right,=
 most came to the west coast due to demand.=C2=A0 That is why you see more =
MK2s back east, by the time they came out, everyone in the west already had=
 a MK1=C2=A0 with a 289 (info from the late Paul Reisentz). Gary =C2=A0
On 08/23/2022 10:47 AM steve wick via Tigers <[email-masked]> wrote:=
=C2=A0=C2=A0I don't have definitive information, but the cars could have be=
en all delivered to east coast ports, then transported from there. Where th=
ey would have been sold was just a function of where the dealers in the net=
work were located.=C2=A0Steve=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0From: Tigers <tigers-bounces=
@autox.team.net> on behalf of Brian Glenn via Tigers <[email-masked]=
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 9:58 PM
To: Tigers Den <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information=C2=A0A=
ll,I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article What is a Sunbeam Tiger? =
listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazine.In it, he=
 states "While about 80% of the original Tiger sales were located on the we=
st coast, ownership opportunities now exist nationwide."While I knew the ma=
jority of Tigers were delivered to California, I had never heard it quantif=
ied.Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retail =
outlet distribution.=C2=A0Does anyone know from where this 80% figure was o=
btained?Does anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentat=
ion on ports of entry and retail distribution?Thanks in advance.CheersB=C2=
=A0Brian Glenn=20
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<div class="userEdit" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;"><span style="color: #000000; font-style: normal; font-weight: bold;">I thought Tigers were sent to the dealers who ordered them.&nbsp; For instance, in little old Vermont there were very few dealers who sold foreign cars.&nbsp; Yankees wanted US steel.&nbsp; But, I believe there were at least 2 Sunbeam dealers.&nbsp; The larger one was in a city of 35,000 people. The 2nd was in a town of about 2,000.&nbsp; Needless to say these places sold very few Sunbeams.&nbsp; But, I know that the larger dealer did sell&nbsp; a few. If these dealers weren't ordering Tigers, they wouldn't be shipping them to Vermont (or any other location that didn't have buyers).&nbsp; Apparently Calif. had buyers.</span></div>
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<div>For sure they came into the port at LA(Long Beach?). </div>
<div class="yiv4189640217default-style">&nbsp;</div>
<div class="yiv4189640217default-style">The 80% (I think) is just a number out of his A$$... </div>
<div class="yiv4189640217default-style">He was back east or Canada, he didn't get one new, just many years later (I think). </div>
<div class="yiv4189640217default-style">The hot rod scene was California and the weather definetly favors a convertible. </div>
<div class="yiv4189640217default-style">&nbsp;</div>
<div class="yiv4189640217default-style">But he was right, most came to the west coast due to demand.&nbsp; That is why you </div>
<div class="yiv4189640217default-style">see more MK2s back east, by the time they came out, everyone in the west already </div>
<div class="yiv4189640217default-style">had a MK1&nbsp; with a 289 (info from the late Paul Reisentz). </div>
<div class="yiv4189640217default-style">Gary </div>
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<div class="yiv4189640217elementToProof" style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;">I don't have definitive information, but the cars could have been all delivered to east coast ports, then transported from there. Where they would have been sold was just a function of where the dealers in the network were located.</div>
<div class="yiv4189640217elementToProof" style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;">&nbsp;</div>
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<div id="yiv4189640217divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><strong>From:</strong> Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Brian Glenn via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear="none"><strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, August 22, 2022 9:58 PM<br clear="none"><strong>To:</strong> Tigers Den &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear="none"><strong>Subject:</strong> [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information</span>
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<div dir="ltr">I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article <em>What is a Sunbeam Tiger?</em> listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazine.</div>
<div dir="ltr">In it, he states "<span style="color: #0a0a0a; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-align: justify;">While about 80% of the original Tiger sales were located on the west coast, ownership opportunities now exist nationwide.</span>"</div>
<div dir="ltr">While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I had never heard it quantified.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retail outlet distribution.</div>
<div dir="ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr">Does anyone know from where this 80% figure was obtained?</div>
<div dir="ltr">Does anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentation on ports of entry and retail distribution?</div>
<div dir="ltr">Thanks in advance.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Cheers</div>
<div dir="ltr">B</div>
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According to TBON there were 2 Hillman and Sunbeam dealers a Service =
Dealer and a Singer dealer in Atlanta

Import Motors Ltd

Lander Auto Parts Inc.

Buckhead Foreign Car Center Inc. =E2=80=93 Service Dealer

Southeastern Sports Car Center Inc. =E2=80=93 Singer Dealer

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West coast executive offices

LA and San Francisco

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I believe most of the MK IIs had to be shipped to Canada for some =
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class=3DMsoNormal>Allan<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>According to =
TBON there were 2 Hillman and Sunbeam dealers a Service Dealer and a =
Singer dealer in Atlanta<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Import =
Motors Ltd<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Lander Auto Parts =
Inc.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Buckhead Foreign Car Center Inc. =
=E2=80=93 Service Dealer<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Southeastern =
Sports Car Center Inc. =E2=80=93 Singer Dealer<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>West coast =
executive offices<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>LA and San =
Francisco<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>East coast offices<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Long Island City and New York City<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I believe =
most of the MK IIs had to be shipped to Canada for some technicality. =
(?)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan =
Ballard<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 23, 2022 5:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
GARY WINBLAD &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Tiger List List =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Original =
Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks for =
this very interesting commentary.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99ve always wondered how Sunbeam distribution =
across the country took place. &nbsp;My Mk1a =
is<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>An Oklahoma car for =
example.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Here in Atlanta there were only a few Tigers on the =
streets in the 60=E2=80=99s. I don=E2=80=99t know if =
there<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Was a dealership or =
not. Used Tigers and Alpines were sold out of the Atlanta =
newspaper=E2=80=99s classified<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>ads for =E2=80=9CBritish =
cars.=E2=80=9D&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>That=E2=80=99s where I found my first Tiger, a =
Midnight Blue Mk1.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
recall reading about MkII=E2=80=99s but seeing just one. I=E2=80=99ve =
come to appreciate MkII styling<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>But back in the day the absence of side =
=E2=80=9Cstripe=E2=80=9D left me skeptical.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Allan Ballard<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>-Atlanta<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>For sure they came into the port at LA(Long Beach?). =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The 80% (I think) is just a number out of his A$$... =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>He was back east or =
Canada, he didn't get one new, just many years later (I think). =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The hot rod scene was =
California and the weather definetly favors a convertible. =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>But he was right, most came to the west coast due to =
demand.&nbsp; That is why you <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>see more MK2s back east, by the time they came out, =
everyone in the west already <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>had a MK1&nbsp; with a 289 (info from the late Paul =
Reisentz). <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Gary =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 08/23/2022 10:47 AM steve wick via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I don't have =
definitive information, but the cars could have been all delivered to =
east coast ports, then transported from there. Where they would have =
been sold was just a function of where the dealers in the network were =
located. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Steve =
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[Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue"'>All, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>I was reviewing =
a well researched 1995 article <em><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue"'>What is a Sunbeam Tiger?</span></em> listed on the STOA website =
by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazine. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>In it, he states =
&quot;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0A0A0A'>W=
hile about 80% of the original Tiger sales were located on the west =
coast, ownership opportunities now exist nationwide.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>&quot; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>While I knew the =
majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I had never heard it =
quantified. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>Our Tiger =
research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retail outlet =
distribution. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>Does anyone know =
from where this 80% figure was obtained? =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>Does anyone have =
additional or contradictory information/documentation on ports of entry =
and retail distribution? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue"'>Thanks in advance. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue"'>Cheers <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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For Allan:  TBON lists 4 dealers in Atlanta, three of which allegedly
carried Sunbeam products.

In the list of dealers for Massachusetts, there is also a "Boston
Warehouse" mentioned.  The address is on a pier at the waterfront, what
today is the Black Falcon cruise terminal.  So it appears that Boston was
also a POE for Rootes products.  Odd, since I don't see any other mention
of a warehouse in other likely ports, NY, Baltimore, Savannah, Long Beach,
San Francisco, etc.

Also odd, there are three pages of dealer listings for California, but
almost 5 pages of dealer listings for the NY/NJ area.  Yet according to the
cited statistic, most of the Tigers went west.

Stu

> I=E2=80=99ve always wondered how Sunbeam distribution across the country =
took
> place.  My Mk1a is
> Here in Atlanta there were only a few Tigers on the streets in the 60=E2=
=80=99s. I
> don=E2=80=99t know if there
> Was a dealership or not. Used Tigers and Alpines were sold out of the
> ads for =E2=80=9CBritish cars.=E2=80=9D
>
> I recall reading about MkII=E2=80=99s but seeing just one. I=E2=80=99ve c=
ome to appreciate
> MkII styling
skeptical.
>
> Allan Ballard
> -Atlanta
>
> On Aug 23, 2022, at 2:07 PM, GARY WINBLAD <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
> delivered to east coast ports, then transported from there. Where they
> would have been sold was just a function of where the dealers in the
> network were located.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Tigers <[email-masked]> on behalf of Brian Glenn
> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2022 9:58 PM
> *To:* Tigers Den <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information
>
> All,
> I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article *What is a Sunbeam Tiger?*
> In it, he states "While about 80% of the original Tiger sales were
> located on the west coast, ownership opportunities now exist nationwide."
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">For=
 Allan:=C2=A0 TBON lists 4 dealers in Atlanta, three of which allegedly car=
ried Sunbeam products.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size=
:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">In=
 the list of dealers for Massachusetts, there is also a &quot;Boston Wareho=
use&quot; mentioned.=C2=A0 The address is on a pier at the waterfront, what=
 today is the Black Falcon cruise terminal.=C2=A0 So it appears that Boston=
 was also a POE for Rootes products.=C2=A0 Odd, since I don&#39;t see any o=
ther mention of a warehouse in other likely ports, NY, Baltimore, Savannah,=
 Long Beach, San Francisco, etc.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size=
:small">Also odd, there are three pages of dealer listings for California, =
but almost 5 pages of dealer listings for the NY/NJ area.=C2=A0 Yet accordi=
ng to the cited statistic, most of the Tigers went west.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Stu</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 23, 2022=
 at 8:41 PM Allan Ballard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">aba=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">Thanks for thi=
s very interesting commentary.<div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99ve always wonde=
red how Sunbeam distribution across the country took place.=C2=A0 My Mk1a i=
s</div><div>An Oklahoma car for example.</div><div><br></div><div>Here in A=
tlanta there were only a few Tigers on the streets in the 60=E2=80=99s. I d=
on=E2=80=99t know if there</div><div>Was a dealership or not. Used Tigers a=
nd Alpines were sold out of the Atlanta newspaper=E2=80=99s classified</div=
><div>ads for =E2=80=9CBritish cars.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><di=
v>That=E2=80=99s where I found my first Tiger, a Midnight Blue Mk1.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>I recall reading about MkII=E2=80=99s but seeing just one=
. I=E2=80=99ve come to appreciate MkII styling</div><div>But back in the da=
y the absence of side =E2=80=9Cstripe=E2=80=9D left me skeptical.</div><div=
><br></div><div>Allan Ballard</div><div>-Atlanta</div><div><div><br><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><div>On Aug 23, 2022, at 2:07 PM, GARY WINBLAD &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">garywinblad@comcast=
.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div>

 =20
  =20
=20
 <div>
  <div>
   For sure they came into the port at LA(Long Beach?).
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   The 80% (I think) is just a number out of his A$$...
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   He was back east or Canada, he didn&#39;t get one new, just many years l=
ater (I think).
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   The hot rod scene was California and the weather definetly favors a conv=
ertible.
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   But he was right, most came to the west coast due to demand.=C2=A0 That =
is why you=20
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   see more MK2s back east, by the time they came out, everyone in the west=
 already
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   had a MK1=C2=A0 with a 289 (info from the late Paul Reisentz).
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   Gary
   <br>
  </div>
  <div>
   <br>
  </div>
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">
   <div>
    On 08/23/2022 10:47 AM steve wick via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tige=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
   </div>
   <div>
    <br>
   </div>
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    <br>
   </div>
   <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
    I don&#39;t have definitive information, but the cars could have been a=
ll delivered to east coast ports, then transported from there. Where they w=
ould have been sold was just a function of where the dealers in the network=
 were located.
   </div>
   <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
    <br>
   </div>
   <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
    Steve
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    <span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong>F=
rom:</strong> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of Brian G=
lenn via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, August =
22, 2022 9:58 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Tigers Den &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:t=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><s=
trong>Subject:</strong> [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Inf=
ormation</span>
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    <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:16px">
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      All,
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article <em>What is a Sunbeam =
Tiger?</em> listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazi=
ne.
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      In it, he states &quot;<span style=3D"color:rgb(10,10,10);font-family=
:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:justify">While about 80% of the orig=
inal Tiger sales were located on the west coast, ownership opportunities no=
w exist nationwide.</span>&quot;
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I h=
ad never heard it quantified.
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retai=
l outlet distribution.
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      <br>
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      Does anyone know from where this 80% figure was obtained?
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      Does anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentatio=
n on ports of entry and retail distribution?
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      Thanks in advance.
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      Cheers
     </div>
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      B
     </div>
     <div>
      <br>
     </div>
     <div>
      Brian Glenn
      <br>P.O. Box 578
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I've seen that picture too. Given I have  XXXX0101 I wondered if my car 
was in that picture. I believe I saw it on Norm's Rootes1 website. I 
went there (Rootes1.com) this morning and I couldn't get in. Still can't 
get in this evening. This is what I get, "www.classictiger.com refused 
to connect." Makes me realize how old most of the Tiger sites are..., 
and how old we are all getting.

On 8/23/2022 11:03 AM, jim via Tigers wrote:
>
> I have this pic from Norm showing what he said is the first Tiger 
> shipment to long Beach Ca.  Don’t have any other details other than that
>
> Jim
>
> B382000446LRXFE
>
> *From:* Tigers <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *steve 
> wick via Tigers
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2022 7:48 AM
> *To:* Tigers Den <[email-masked]>; Brian Glenn 
> <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*Tigers <[email-masked]> on behalf of Brian Glenn 
> I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article /What is a Sunbeam 
> Tiger?/ listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazine.
>
> Does anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentation 
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    <p>I've seen that picture too. Given I have  XXXX0101 I wondered if
      my car was in that picture. I believe I saw it on Norm's Rootes1
      website. I went there (Rootes1.com) this morning and I couldn't
      get in. Still can't get in this evening. This is what I get,
      "<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.classictiger.com">www.classictiger.com</a> refused to connect." Makes me realize how
      old most of the Tiger sites are..., and how old we are all
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/23/2022 11:03 AM, jim via Tigers
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">I have this pic from
            Norm showing what he said is the first Tiger shipment to
            long Beach Ca.  Don’t have any other details other than that<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">B382000446LRXFE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tigers
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>steve
              wick via Tigers<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 23, 2022 7:48 AM<br>
              <b>To:</b> Tigers Den <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>; Brian
              Glenn <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry
              and Sales Information<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I don't have
              definitive information, but the cars could have been all
              delivered to east coast ports, then transported from
              there. Where they would have been sold was just a function
              of where the dealers in the network were located.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span
              style="color:black"> Tigers &lt;<a
                href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              on behalf of Brian Glenn via Tigers &lt;<a
                href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 22, 2022 9:58 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> Tigers Den &lt;<a
                href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
              <b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and
              Sales Information</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                  Neue&quot;,serif">All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                  Neue&quot;,serif">I was reviewing a well researched
                  1995 article <i>What is a Sunbeam Tiger?</i> listed
                  on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra
                  Magazine.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                  Neue&quot;,serif">In it, he states "</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0A0A0A">While
                  about 80% of the original Tiger sales were located on
                  the west coast, ownership opportunities now exist
                  nationwide.</span><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                  Neue&quot;,serif">"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            </div>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                  Neue&quot;,serif">While I knew the majority of Tigers
                  were delivered to California, I had never heard it
                  quantified.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                  Neue&quot;,serif">Our Tiger research has always lacked
                  data on delivery ports and retail outlet distribution.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                  Neue&quot;,serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                  Neue&quot;,serif">Does anyone know from where this 80%
                  figure was obtained?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                  Neue&quot;,serif">Does anyone have additional or
                  contradictory information/documentation on ports of
                  entry and retail distribution?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                  Neue&quot;,serif">Thanks in advance.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            </div>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                  Neue&quot;,serif">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                  Neue&quot;,serif">B<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                  Neue&quot;,serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                  Neue&quot;,serif">Brian Glenn<br>
                  P.O. Box 578<br>
                  Julian, CA 92036-0578<br>
                  714.345.9883<br>
                  <br>
                  B9470208LRXFE GT<br>
                  B9471101LRXFE <br>
                  B9472615LRXFE <br>
                  B382000846LRXFE <br>
                  B382001212LRXFE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: Daniel Eiland via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2022 02:53:02 +0000 (UTC)

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With the talk about Tigers and Ports of Entry, I was wondering if anyone ha=
s ever put together a list of the Sunbeam car dealer network?
I know that some cars I've owned you could trace which dealer originally so=
ld the car through the original paperwork. Without the original paperwork I=
'm not sure how you would know.
Was there ever a list of dealers?
I know in 1966-1967 my father bought a brand new Sunbeam Alpine GT. Car cam=
e with a hardtop but there was no soft top. The dealer had their own Alpine=
 they used for racing and I can remember trying to talk my dad into buying =
a Sunbeam Tiger which the dealer had in stock.
The dealer was close to the military bases which was probably where most of=
 their buyers were from.
I don't recall the name of the dealership, but I remember they were on Dyer=
 Street in El Paso, Texas.=C2=A0
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ox.team.net> To: "Tigers Den" <[email-masked]> Cc:  Sent: Mon, Aug 2=
2, 2022 at 11:47 PM Subject: [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sale=
s Information  All,I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article What is a=
 Sunbeam Tiger? listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Ma=
gazine.In it, he states "While about 80% of the original Tiger sales were l=
ocated on the west coast, ownership opportunities now exist nationwide."Whi=
le I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I had never =
heard it quantified.Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery p=
orts and retail outlet distribution.
Does anyone know from where this 80% figure was obtained?Does anyone have a=
dditional or contradictory information/documentation on ports of entry and =
retail distribution?Thanks in advance.CheersB
Brian Glenn
 P.O. Box 578
 Julian, CA 92036-0578
 714.345.9883
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 B9471101LRXFE=20
 B9472615LRXFE=20
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<div id=3D"yiv4443714577"><div><div id=3D"yiv4443714577"><div><div id=3D"yi=
v4443714577"></div></div><div><div>With the talk about Tigers and Ports of =
Entry, I was wondering if anyone has ever put together a list of the Sunbea=
m car dealer network?</div><div><br></div><div>I know that some cars I've o=
wned you could trace which dealer originally sold the car through the origi=
nal paperwork. Without the original paperwork I'm not sure how you would kn=
ow.</div><div><br></div><div>Was there ever a list of dealers?</div><div><b=
r></div><div>I know in 1966-1967 my father bought a brand new Sunbeam Alpin=
e GT. Car came with a hardtop but there was no soft top. The dealer had the=
ir own Alpine they used for racing and I can remember trying to talk my dad=
 into buying a Sunbeam Tiger which the dealer had in stock.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>The dealer was close to the military bases which was probably whe=
re most of their buyers were from.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't recall =
the name of the dealership, but I remember they were on Dyer Street in El P=
aso, Texas.&nbsp;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"yiv4443714577ymai=
l_android_signature"><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect"=
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rowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&amp;af_wl=3Dym&amp;af_sub1=3DInternal&a=
mp;af_sub2=3DGlobal_YGrowth&amp;af_sub3=3DEmailSignature&amp;af_web_dp=3Dht=
tps://more.att.com/currently/imap">Sent from AT&amp;T Yahoo Mail on Android=
</a></div> <br clear=3D"none"> <blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 20px 0;"> <d=
iv style=3D"padding:10px 0 0 20px;margin:10px 0 0 0;border-left:1px solid #=
6D00F6;"> <div style=3D"font-family:Roboto, sans-serif;color:#6D00F6;">  <d=
iv>----- Forwarded Message -----</div> <div><b>From:</b> "Brian Glenn via T=
igers" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</div> <div><b>To:</b> "Tigers Den" &lt=
;[email-masked]&gt;</div> <div style=3D"display:none;"><b>Cc:</b> </=
div> <div id=3D"yiv4443714577yqt27572" class=3D"yiv4443714577yqt5419182129"=
><div id=3D"yiv4443714577yqt92038" class=3D"yiv4443714577yqt8962035885"><di=
v id=3D"yiv4443714577yqt69599" class=3D"yiv4443714577yqt9194229255"><div><b=
>Sent:</b> Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 11:47 PM</div> <div><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers=
] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information</div></div></div></div=
>  </div>  <div id=3D"yiv4443714577yqt20430" class=3D"yiv4443714577yqt54191=
82129"><div id=3D"yiv4443714577yqt43690" class=3D"yiv4443714577yqt896203588=
5"><div id=3D"yiv4443714577yqt81310" class=3D"yiv4443714577yqt9194229255"><=
div id=3D"yiv4443714577"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Hel=
vetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=3D"yiv4443714577ydp7d4816f=
yahoo-style-wrap"><div dir=3D"ltr">All,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">I was reviewi=
ng a well researched 1995 article <i>What is a Sunbeam Tiger?</i> listed on=
 the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazine.</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">In it, he states "<span style=3D"color:rgb(10, 10, 10);font-family:Ari=
al, Helvetica, sans-serif;text-align:justify;">While about 80% of the origi=
nal Tiger sales were located on the west coast, ownership opportunities now=
 exist nationwide.</span>"</div><div dir=3D"ltr">While I knew the majority =
of Tigers were delivered to California, I had never heard it quantified.</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery p=
orts and retail outlet distribution.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Does anyone know from where this 80% figure was o=
btained?</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Does anyone have additional or contradictory=
 information/documentation on ports of entry and retail distribution?</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks in advance.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">B</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv444371457=
7ydp7d4816fsignature">Brian Glenn<br clear=3D"none"> P.O. Box 578<br clear=
=3D"none"> Julian, CA 92036-0578<br clear=3D"none"> 714.345.9883<br clear=
=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> B9470208LRXFE GT<br clear=3D"none"> B9471101=
LRXFE <br clear=3D"none"> B9472615LRXFE <br clear=3D"none"> B382000846LRXFE=
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Tom,

Norms site has been down since he had his stroke, I dont think anyone else
was maintaining it so it's been offline for the best part of 2 years now. I
know some people have had some contact with Norm, but assume he is still
recovering to some extent, hope he will be back to full engagement soon,

On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 at 14:19, Tom Witt via Tigers <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> was in that picture. I believe I saw it on Norm's Rootes1 website. I went
> there (Rootes1.com) this morning and I couldn't get in. Still can't get i=
n
> this evening. This is what I get, "www.classictiger.com refused to
> connect." Makes me realize how old most of the Tiger sites are..., and ho=
w
> old we are all getting.
> I have this pic from Norm showing what he said is the first Tiger shipmen=
t
> to long Beach Ca.  Don=E2=80=99t have any other details other than that
>
>
>
> Jim
>
> B382000446LRXFE
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <[email-masked]>
> <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *steve wick via Tigers
> *To:* Tigers Den <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>; Brian
> Glenn <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Informatio=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Tom,<div><br></div><div>Norms site has been down since he =
had his stroke, I dont think=C2=A0anyone else was maintaining=C2=A0it so it=
&#39;s been offline for the best part of 2=C2=A0years now. I know some peop=
le have had some contact with Norm, but assume he is still recovering to so=
me extent, hope he will be back to full engagement soon,</div><div><br></di=
v><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 at 14:19=
, Tom Witt via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tigers@a=
utox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex">
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   =20
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  <div>
    <p>I&#39;ve seen that picture too. Given I have=C2=A0 XXXX0101 I wonder=
ed if
      my car was in that picture. I believe I saw it on Norm&#39;s Rootes1
      website. I went there (Rootes1.com) this morning and I couldn&#39;t
      get in. Still can&#39;t get in this evening. This is what I get,
      &quot;<a href=3D"http://www.classictiger.com" target=3D"_blank">www.c=
lassictiger.com</a> refused to connect.&quot; Makes me realize how
      old most of the Tiger sites are..., and how old we are all
      getting.<span style=3D"color:rgb(143,143,143);font-family:&quot;Segoe=
 UI&quot;,Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-l=
igatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:nor=
mal;text-align:center;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:norma=
l;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);text-decoration-style:=
initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"></span></p=
    <div>On 8/23/2022 11:03 AM, jim via Tigers
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
     =20
     =20
     =20
      <div>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I have this pic from
            Norm showing what he said is the first Tiger shipment to
            long Beach Ca.=C2=A0 Don=E2=80=99t have any other details other=
 than that<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></s=
pan></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Jim<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">B382000446LRXFE<u></u><=
u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></s=
pan></p>
        <div>
          <div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:no=
ne;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tigers
              <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>steve
              wick via Tigers<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 23, 2022 7:48 AM<br>
              <b>To:</b> Tigers Den <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>; Brian
              Glenn <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry
              and Sales Information<u></u><u></u></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black"=
>I don&#39;t have
              definitive information, but the cars could have been all
              delivered to east coast ports, then transported from
              there. Where they would have been sold was just a function
              of where the dealers in the network were located.<u></u><u></=
u></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black"=
>Steve<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:center" align=3D"cente=
r">
          <hr width=3D"98%" size=3D"2" align=3D"center"></div>
        <div id=3D"gmail-m_-7316851202774077957divRplyFwdMsg">
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:black">From:</span=
></b><span style=3D"color:black"> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounc=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              on behalf of Brian Glenn via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tig=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 22, 2022 9:58 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> Tigers Den &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
              <b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and
              Sales Information</span> <u></u><u></u></p>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <div>
          <div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>All,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>I was reviewing a well researche=
d
                  1995 article <i>What is a Sunbeam Tiger?</i> listed
                  on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra
                  Magazine.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>In it, he states &quot;</span><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(10,10,10=
)">While
                  about 80% of the original Tiger sales were located on
                  the west coast, ownership opportunities now exist
                  nationwide.</span><span>&quot;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>While I knew the majority of Tig=
ers
                  were delivered to California, I had never heard it
                  quantified.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Our Tiger research has always la=
cked
                  data on delivery ports and retail outlet distribution.<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Does anyone know from where this=
 80%
                  figure was obtained?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Does anyone have additional or
                  contradictory information/documentation on ports of
                  entry and retail distribution?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Thanks in advance.<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Cheers<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>B<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Brian Glenn<br>
                  P.O. Box 578<br>
                  Julian, CA 92036-0578<br>
                  714.345.9883<br>
                  <br>
                  B9470208LRXFE GT<br>
                  B9471101LRXFE <br>
                  B9472615LRXFE <br>
                  B382000846LRXFE <br>
                  B382001212LRXFE<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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 Some original Tiger sales literature have the dealer info stamped on them,=
 so these could ID dealers.
David

    On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 12:09:45 AM PDT, Daniel Eiland via Tig=
ers <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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 With the talk about Tigers and Ports of Entry, I was wondering if anyone h=
as ever put together a list of the Sunbeam car dealer network?

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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydpb2ecb3b3yahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Some original Tiger sales li=
terature have the dealer info stamped on them, so these could ID dealers.</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-=
setdir=3D"false">David<br></div><div><br></div>
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6809ecyahoo_quoted">
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                <div>
                    On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 12:09:45 AM PDT, Danie=
l Eiland via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp346809ecyiv4732520198"><div><div id=3D"y=
dp346809ecyiv4732520198"><div><div id=3D"ydp346809ecyiv4732520198"><div><di=
v id=3D"ydp346809ecyiv4732520198"></div></div><div><div>With the talk about=
 Tigers and Ports of Entry, I was wondering if anyone has ever put together=
 a list of the Sunbeam car dealer network?</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div>I know that some cars I've owned you could trace which dealer origi=
nally sold the car through the original paperwork. Without the original pap=
erwork I'm not sure how you would know.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div>Was there ever a list of dealers?</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div>I know in 1966-1967 my father bought a brand new Sunbeam Alpine GT. Car=
 came with a hardtop but there was no soft top. The dealer had their own Al=
pine they used for racing and I can remember trying to talk my dad into buy=
ing a Sunbeam Tiger which the dealer had in stock.</div><div><br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div>The dealer was close to the military bases which was probab=
ly where most of their buyers were from.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div>I don't recall the name of the dealership, but I remember they were o=
n Dyer Street in El Paso, Texas.&nbsp;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"><div id=
=3D"ydp346809ecyiv4732520198ymail_android_signature"><a shape=3D"rect" id=
=3D"ydp346809ecyiv4732520198ymail_android_signature_link" href=3D"https://g=
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oidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&amp;af_wl=3Dym&amp;af_sub1=3DInternal&amp;af_sub2=
=3DGlobal_YGrowth&amp;af_sub3=3DEmailSignature&amp;af_web_dp=3Dhttps://more=
.att.com/currently/imap" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">Sent from AT&am=
p;T Yahoo Mail on Android</a></div> <br clear=3D"none"> <blockquote style=
=3D"margin:0 0 20px 0;"> <div style=3D"padding:10px 0 0 20px;margin:10px 0 =
0 0;border-left:1px solid #6D00F6;"> <div style=3D"font-family:Roboto, sans=
-serif;color:#6D00F6;">  <div>----- Forwarded Message -----</div> <div><b>F=
rom:</b> "Brian Glenn via Tigers" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</div> <div>=
<b>To:</b> "Tigers Den" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</div> <div style=3D"d=
isplay:none;"><b>Cc:</b> </div> <div id=3D"ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt59736=
" class=3D"ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt3969304255"><div id=3D"ydp346809ecyiv=
4732520198yqt27572" class=3D"ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt5419182129"><div id=
=3D"ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt92038" class=3D"ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt8=
962035885"><div id=3D"ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt69599" class=3D"ydp346809e=
cyiv4732520198yqt9194229255"><div><b>Sent:</b> Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 11:47 P=
M</div> <div><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sale=
s Information</div></div></div></div></div>  </div>  <div id=3D"ydp346809ec=
yiv4732520198yqt74795" class=3D"ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt3969304255"><div=
 id=3D"ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt20430" class=3D"ydp346809ecyiv4732520198y=
qt5419182129"><div id=3D"ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt43690" class=3D"ydp3468=
09ecyiv4732520198yqt8962035885"><div id=3D"ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt81310=
" class=3D"ydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt9194229255"><div id=3D"ydp346809ecyiv=
4732520198"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial=
, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=3D"ydp346809ecyiv4732520198ydp7d4816fya=
hoo-style-wrap"><div dir=3D"ltr">All,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">I was reviewing=
 a well researched 1995 article <i>What is a Sunbeam Tiger?</i> listed on t=
he STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazine.</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">In it, he states "<span style=3D"color:rgb(10, 10, 10);font-family:Arial=
, Helvetica, sans-serif;text-align:justify;">While about 80% of the origina=
l Tiger sales were located on the west coast, ownership opportunities now e=
xist nationwide.</span>"</div><div dir=3D"ltr">While I knew the majority of=
 Tigers were delivered to California, I had never heard it quantified.</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery por=
ts and retail outlet distribution.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Does anyone know from where this 80% figure was obt=
ained?</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Does anyone have additional or contradictory i=
nformation/documentation on ports of entry and retail distribution?</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Thanks in advance.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">B</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"ydp346809ecyiv=
4732520198ydp7d4816fsignature">Brian Glenn<br clear=3D"none"> P.O. Box 578<=
br clear=3D"none"> Julian, CA 92036-0578<br clear=3D"none"> 714.345.9883<br=
 clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> B9470208LRXFE GT<br clear=3D"none"> B9=
471101LRXFE <br clear=3D"none"> B9472615LRXFE <br clear=3D"none"> B38200084=
6LRXFE <br clear=3D"none"> B382001212LRXFE</div></div></div></div></div></d=
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I bought my Tiger from Diehl Motors -Waynesboro/Staunton VA in 1967.  Diehl
Motors was a Chrysler dealer.  My car was one of two cars that they had on
the lot.  The title for my 1A read 1966/67.  Back then it was customary for
a dealer to give foreign cars the benefit of the doubt as to whether they
were the current or the next-year model.  Obviously the dealer didn't know
that the 1967 tiger, the MKII, represented a significant model change.
I'm pretty sure that POE for my car was Baltimore, and judging from the
odometer reading on my (new) Tiger, it looks like it was driven
from Baltimore to the dealership.

Will - 382001570
[email-masked]

On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 9:34 PM Stu <[email-masked]> wrote:

> of a warehouse in other likely ports, NY, Baltimore, Savannah, Long Beach=
,
> almost 5 pages of dealer listings for the NY/NJ area.  Yet according to t=
he
>> I=E2=80=99ve always wondered how Sunbeam distribution across the country=
 took
>> Here in Atlanta there were only a few Tigers on the streets in the 60=E2=
=80=99s.
>> I don=E2=80=99t know if there
come to
>> appreciate MkII styling
>> But back in the day the absence of side =E2=80=9Cstripe=E2=80=9D left me=
 skeptical.
>>
>> Allan Ballard
>> -Atlanta
>>
>> On Aug 23, 2022, at 2:07 PM, GARY WINBLAD <[email-masked]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> But he was right, most came to the west coast due to demand.  That is wh=
y
>> you
>> I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article *What is a Sunbeam Tiger?=
*
>> located on the west coast, ownership opportunities now exist nationwide.=
"
>> Does anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentation o=
n
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I b=
ought my Tiger from Diehl Motors -Waynesboro/Staunton VA in 1967.=C2=A0 Die=
hl Motors was a Chrysler dealer.=C2=A0 My car was one of two cars that they=
 had on the lot.=C2=A0 The title for my 1A read 1966/67.=C2=A0 Back then it=
 was customary for a dealer to give foreign cars the benefit of the doubt a=
s to whether they were the current or the next-year model.=C2=A0 Obviously =
the dealer didn&#39;t know that the 1967 tiger, the MKII, represented=C2=A0=
a significant=C2=A0model change.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-size:small">I&#39;m pretty sure that POE for my car was Baltimore, an=
d judging from the odometer reading on my (new) Tiger, it looks like it was=
 driven from=C2=A0Baltimore to the dealership.</div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gm=
ail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Will - 3=
82001570 <br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Tig=
[email-masked]</a></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 9:34 PM=
 Stu &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">For Allan:=
=C2=A0 TBON lists 4 dealers in Atlanta, three of which allegedly carried Su=
nbeam products.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"=
><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">In the li=
st of dealers for Massachusetts, there is also a &quot;Boston Warehouse&quo=
t; mentioned.=C2=A0 The address is on a pier at the waterfront, what today =
is the Black Falcon cruise terminal.=C2=A0 So it appears that Boston was al=
so a POE for Rootes products.=C2=A0 Odd, since I don&#39;t see any other me=
ntion of a warehouse in other likely ports, NY, Baltimore, Savannah, Long B=
each, San Francisco, etc.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-s=
ize:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"=
>Also odd, there are three pages of dealer listings for California, but alm=
ost 5 pages of dealer listings for the NY/NJ area.=C2=A0 Yet according to t=
he cited statistic, most of the Tigers went west.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Stu</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 8:41 =
PM Allan Ballard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Thanks for this very interesting commentar=
y.<div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99ve always wondered how Sunbeam distribution=
 across the country took place.=C2=A0 My Mk1a is</div><div>An Oklahoma car =
for example.</div><div><br></div><div>Here in Atlanta there were only a few=
 Tigers on the streets in the 60=E2=80=99s. I don=E2=80=99t know if there</=
div><div>Was a dealership or not. Used Tigers and Alpines were sold out of =
the Atlanta newspaper=E2=80=99s classified</div><div>ads for =E2=80=9CBriti=
sh cars.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>That=E2=80=99s where I fou=
nd my first Tiger, a Midnight Blue Mk1.</div><div><br></div><div>I recall r=
eading about MkII=E2=80=99s but seeing just one. I=E2=80=99ve come to appre=
ciate MkII styling</div><div>But back in the day the absence of side =E2=80=
=9Cstripe=E2=80=9D left me skeptical.</div><div><br></div><div>Allan Ballar=
d</div><div>-Atlanta</div><div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On A=
ug 23, 2022, at 2:07 PM, GARY WINBLAD &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:garywinblad@com=
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Don=E2=80=99t know if this will attach to the list, but here=E2=80=99s =
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Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2022 7:53 AM
To: Stu <[email-masked]>
Cc: Tiger List List <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information

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I bought my Tiger from Diehl Motors -Waynesboro/Staunton VA in 1967.  =
Diehl Motors was a Chrysler dealer.  My car was one of two cars that =
they had on the lot.  The title for my 1A read 1966/67.  Back then it =
was customary for a dealer to give foreign cars the benefit of the doubt =
as to whether they were the current or the next-year model.  Obviously =
the dealer didn't know that the 1967 tiger, the MKII, represented a =
significant model change.

I'm pretty sure that POE for my car was Baltimore, and judging from the =
odometer reading on my (new) Tiger, it looks like it was driven from =
Baltimore to the dealership.

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For Allan:  TBON lists 4 dealers in Atlanta, three of which allegedly =
carried Sunbeam products.

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In the list of dealers for Massachusetts, there is also a "Boston =
Warehouse" mentioned.  The address is on a pier at the waterfront, what =
today is the Black Falcon cruise terminal.  So it appears that Boston =
was also a POE for Rootes products.  Odd, since I don't see any other =
mention of a warehouse in other likely ports, NY, Baltimore, Savannah, =
Long Beach, San Francisco, etc.

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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Don=E2=80=99t know if this =
will attach to the list, but here=E2=80=99s the dealer list for 1966. =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Kirk<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Will Seay via =
Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 24, 2022 7:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
Stu &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Tiger List List =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Original =
Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I bought my Tiger =
from Diehl Motors -Waynesboro/Staunton VA in 1967.&nbsp; Diehl Motors =
was a Chrysler dealer.&nbsp; My car was one of two cars that they had on =
the lot.&nbsp; The title for my 1A read 1966/67.&nbsp; Back then it was =
customary for a dealer to give foreign cars the benefit of the doubt as =
to whether they were the current or the next-year model.&nbsp; Obviously =
the dealer didn't know that the 1967 tiger, the MKII, represented&nbsp;a =
significant&nbsp;model change.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I'm pretty sure that =
POE for my car was Baltimore, and judging from the odometer reading on =
my (new) Tiger, it looks like it was driven from&nbsp;Baltimore to the =
dealership.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal>Will - 382001570 <br><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 9:34 PM Stu &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>For Allan:&nbsp; TBON lists 4 dealers in =
Atlanta, three of which allegedly carried Sunbeam =
products.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>In the list of =
dealers for Massachusetts, there is also a &quot;Boston Warehouse&quot; =
mentioned.&nbsp; The address is on a pier at the waterfront, what today =
is the Black Falcon cruise terminal.&nbsp; So it appears that Boston was =
also a POE for Rootes products.&nbsp; Odd, since I don't see any other =
mention of a warehouse in other likely ports, NY, Baltimore, Savannah, =
Long Beach, San Francisco, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Also odd, there are =
three pages of dealer listings for California, but almost 5 pages of =
dealer listings for the NY/NJ area.&nbsp; Yet according to the cited =
statistic, most of the Tigers went =
west.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Stu<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 8:41 PM Allan Ballard &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks for this very interesting =
commentary.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99ve always wondered how Sunbeam distribution =
across the country took place.&nbsp; My Mk1a =
is<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>An Oklahoma car for =
example.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Here in Atlanta there were only a few Tigers on the =
streets in the 60=E2=80=99s. I don=E2=80=99t know if =
there<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Was a dealership or =
not. Used Tigers and Alpines were sold out of the Atlanta =
newspaper=E2=80=99s classified<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>ads for =E2=80=9CBritish =
cars.=E2=80=9D&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>That=E2=80=99s where I found my first Tiger, a =
Midnight Blue Mk1.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
recall reading about MkII=E2=80=99s but seeing just one. I=E2=80=99ve =
come to appreciate MkII styling<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>But back in the day the absence of side =
=E2=80=9Cstripe=E2=80=9D left me skeptical.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Allan Ballard<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>-Atlanta<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Aug 23, 2022, at 2:07 PM, GARY WINBLAD &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>For sure they came into the port at LA(Long Beach?). =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The 80% (I think) is just a number out of his A$$... =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>He was back east or =
Canada, he didn't get one new, just many years later (I think). =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The hot rod scene was =
California and the weather definetly favors a convertible. =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>But he was right, most came to the west coast due to =
demand.&nbsp; That is why you <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>see more MK2s back east, by the time they came out, =
everyone in the west already <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>had a MK1&nbsp; with a 289 (info from the late Paul =
Reisentz). <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Gary =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 08/23/2022 10:47 AM steve wick via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I don't have =
definitive information, but the cars could have been all delivered to =
east coast ports, then transported from there. Where they would have =
been sold was just a function of where the dealers in the network were =
located. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Steve =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_-5974597630672792798gmail-m_-2311419682885749726signature_b=
ookmark"><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_-5974597630672792798gmail-m_-2311419682885749726appendonsen=
d"><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div =
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size=3D2 width=3D"98%" align=3Dcenter></div><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_-5974597630672792798gmail-m_-2311419682885749726divRplyFwdM=
sg"><p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></strong> Tigers =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of =
Brian Glenn via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></strong> Monday, =
August 22, 2022 9:58 PM<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>To:</span></strong> Tigers =
Den &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></strong> =
[Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>All, =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I was =
reviewing a well researched 1995 article <em><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>What is a Sunbeam =
Tiger?</span></em> listed on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from =
Cobra Magazine. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>In it, he =
states &quot;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0A0A0A'>W=
hile about 80% of the original Tiger sales were located on the west =
coast, ownership opportunities now exist nationwide.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>&quot; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>While I =
knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I had never =
heard it quantified. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Our Tiger =
research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retail outlet =
distribution. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Does =
anyone know from where this 80% figure was obtained? =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Does =
anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentation on =
ports of entry and retail distribution? =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Hey, everyone:

=20

This is an interesting discussion thread.  The question was asked =
earlier in the thread by, I believe, Dan Eiland, if there had ever been =
a list of Rootes dealers available.  I happen to have in my possession =
just such an animal;  it is the =E2=80=9CUnited States Dealer =
List=E2=80=9D for =E2=80=9CSunbeam=E2=80=A6A Rootes Product.=E2=80=9D  =
It is a list of all the U.S.-based Rootes dealers in 1965, the year that =
the list was printed.  It says on the back cover, =E2=80=9CFor Further =
Information, Contact British American Imports, Inc., 24-16 Bridge Plaza =
South, Long Island City, New York, 11101.=E2=80=9D

=20

If I remember correctly (and this was at least 35 years ago), an old =
friend of mine at the time (as well as a Tiger owner) gave me this =
publication.  He had several of them due to the fact that his =
brother-in-law was the Sunbeam dealer in the Oklahoma City, OK, area =
(Vern Collins of Vern Collins Motor Co., U.S. 66 at North Redmond, =
Bethany, OK) and my friend had purchased his Tiger from him. =20

=20

I have taken a look at this publication and have tried to find some of =
the dealerships that the participants in this thread have mentioned, but =
have only been able to find one (Nick Graffeo Motors, 1809 3rd Ave., =
Birmingham, AL).  Since this list was published/printed sometime in =
1965, this leads me to believe that the dealer network for Rootes cars =
in the U.S. may have been a bit transitory in nature.  Since Rootes =
dealers would have still been around for several years after this =
brochure was printed, it is reasonable to assume that there were more =
dealers added and/or some dealers dropped out of the network. =20

=20

Andy Walker

Edmond, OK

B382001600LRXFE

TAC #740

=20

From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of D or G =
at sbc via Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2022 9:50 AM
To: Tiger List <[email-masked]>; Daniel Eiland <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fw: Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales =
Information

=20

Some original Tiger sales literature have the dealer info stamped on =
them, so these could ID dealers.

=20

David

=20

On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 12:09:45 AM PDT, Daniel Eiland via =

=20

=20

With the talk about Tigers and Ports of Entry, I was wondering if anyone =
has ever put together a list of the Sunbeam car dealer network?

=20

I know that some cars I've owned you could trace which dealer originally =
sold the car through the original paperwork. Without the original =
paperwork I'm not sure how you would know.

=20

=20

I know in 1966-1967 my father bought a brand new Sunbeam Alpine GT. Car =
came with a hardtop but there was no soft top. The dealer had their own =
Alpine they used for racing and I can remember trying to talk my dad =
into buying a Sunbeam Tiger which the dealer had in stock.

=20

The dealer was close to the military bases which was probably where most =
of their buyers were from.

=20

I don't recall the name of the dealership, but I remember they were on =
Dyer Street in El Paso, Texas.=20

=20

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Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 11:47 PM

All,

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Thanks in advance.

Cheers

B

=20

Brian Glenn
P.O. Box 578
Julian, CA 92036-0578
714.345.9883

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Hey, everyone:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>This is an interesting discussion thread.=C2=A0 The question was asked =
earlier in the thread by, I believe, Dan Eiland, if there had ever been =
a list of Rootes dealers available.=C2=A0 I happen to have in my =
possession just such an animal;=C2=A0 it is the =E2=80=9CUnited States =
Dealer List=E2=80=9D for =E2=80=9CSunbeam=E2=80=A6A Rootes =
Product.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0 It is a list of all the U.S.-based Rootes =
dealers in 1965, the year that the list was printed.=C2=A0 It says on =
the back cover, =E2=80=9CFor Further Information, Contact British =
American Imports, Inc., 24-16 Bridge Plaza South, Long Island City, New =
York, 11101.=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>If I remember correctly (and this was at least 35 years ago), an old =
friend of mine at the time (as well as a Tiger owner) gave me this =
publication.=C2=A0 He had several of them due to the fact that his =
brother-in-law was the Sunbeam dealer in the Oklahoma City, OK, area =
(Vern Collins of Vern Collins Motor Co., U.S. 66 at North Redmond, =
Bethany, OK) and my friend had purchased his Tiger from him.=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>I have taken a look at this publication and have tried to find some of =
the dealerships that the participants in this thread have mentioned, but =
have only been able to find one (Nick Graffeo Motors, 1809 =
3<sup>rd</sup> Ave., Birmingham, AL).=C2=A0 Since this list was =
published/printed sometime in 1965, this leads me to believe that the =
dealer network for Rootes cars in the U.S. may have been a bit =
transitory in nature.=C2=A0 Since Rootes dealers would have still been =
around for several years after this brochure was printed, it is =
reasonable to assume that there were more dealers added and/or some =
dealers dropped out of the network.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Andy Walker<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Edmond, OK<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>B382001600LRXFE<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>TAC #740<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>D or G =
at sbc via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 24, 2022 9:50 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger List &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Daniel Eiland =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Fw: Original =
Tiger Port of Entry and Sales =
Information<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>Some =
original Tiger sales literature have the dealer info stamped on them, so =
these could ID dealers.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue"'>David<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"ydp346809ecyahoo_quoted_1903596763"><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 12:09:45 AM PDT, =
Daniel Eiland via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3Dydp346809ecyiv4732520198><div><div =
id=3Dydp346809ecyiv4732520198><div><div =
id=3Dydp346809ecyiv4732520198><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>With the talk about Tigers and Ports of Entry, I =
was wondering if anyone has ever put together a list of the Sunbeam car =
dealer network?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>I know that some cars I've owned you could trace =
which dealer originally sold the car through the original paperwork. =
Without the original paperwork I'm not sure how you would =
know.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>Was there ever a list of =
dealers?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>I know in 1966-1967 my father bought a brand new =
Sunbeam Alpine GT. Car came with a hardtop but there was no soft top. =
The dealer had their own Alpine they used for racing and I can remember =
trying to talk my dad into buying a Sunbeam Tiger which the dealer had =
in stock.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>The dealer was close to the military bases which =
was probably where most of their buyers were =
from.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
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Neue";color:#26282A'>I don't recall the name of the dealership, but I =
remember they were on Dyer Street in El Paso, =
Texas.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'>C=
c:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3Dydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt59736><div =
id=3Dydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt27572><div =
id=3Dydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt92038><div =
id=3Dydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt69599><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'>S=
ent:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'> =
Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 11:47 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'>S=
ubject:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6D00F6'> =
[Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales =
Information<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div=
 id=3Dydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt74795><div =
id=3Dydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt20430><div =
id=3Dydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt43690><div =
id=3Dydp346809ecyiv4732520198yqt81310><div =
id=3Dydp346809ecyiv4732520198><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article =
<i>What is a Sunbeam Tiger?</i> listed on the STOA website by Von =
Levandowski from Cobra Magazine.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>In it, he states &quot;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0A0A0A'>While about 80% =
of the original Tiger sales were located on the west coast, ownership =
opportunities now exist nationwide.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered =
to California, I had never heard it =
quantified.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Our Tiger research =
has always lacked data on delivery ports and retail outlet =
distribution.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>Does anyone know from where this 80% figure was =
obtained?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A'>Does anyone have =
additional or contradictory information/documentation on ports of entry =
and retail distribution?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>Thanks in =
advance.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>B<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue";color:#26282A'>Brian Glenn<br>P.O. Box 578<br>Julian, CA =
92036-0578<br>714.345.9883<br><br>B9470208LRXFE GT<br>B9471101LRXFE =
<br>B9472615LRXFE <br>B382000846LRXFE =
<br>B382001212LRXFE<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></=
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