Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners

From: Allan Ballard via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 15 May 2022 12:04:42 -0400

Thanks Ron and all 

We have a big  “All British” show this time of year.  I like to enter even though  a driver doesn’t stand a chance :)

These little details are important and I enjoy getting them right.

A photo record of each series would constitute an invaluable resource.

Allan Ballard
-Atlanta  

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 15, 2022, at 11:33 AM, Ron Fraser <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Mayf sent me this note and I wanted to make sure everyone on the List
> received it.
> 
> What I think we need is a photo record from any original owner with an
> original Tiger to send photos to the List.
> 
> Photos of each Tiger Series would be the goal - B947, B948, B382 and B3821.
> I also think photos of each Alpine Series would be helpful.
> 
> Ron Fraser
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Mayfield <[email-masked]> 
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 10:49 AM
> To: 'Ron Fraser' <[email-masked]>
> Subject: RE: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
> 
> Ron, mine are OEM. Round slot screws where they run on the weather seal and
> stud and nut other side through the deck and into the hinge.  None are
> painted.  And my car has been painted 3 times since I acquired it. Paint
> shops knew not to paint them. 
> 
> mayf
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Ron Fraser
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 4:56 AM
> To: 'Allan Ballard' <[email-masked]>
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
> 
> Allan
>    The photo evidence indicates that the Parts List is not correct.
> 
> The fasteners should be natural color, not painted.
> The trunk lid would be painted 1st, paint cured then installed.
> 
> The March 1963 shows this screw in the Series I & II section for the trunk
> hinge
> 2203571    Screw, 1/4" UNF. X 1/2" Special
> This screw is also listed for the Series III & IV trunk hinge but the word
> Special is not there.
> 
> This screw # does not show up in the ZY section of the Parts List.
> 
> Your pictures look like a large headed Round Screw much like a license plate
> screw.
> 
> I know my trunk hinge fasteners are not original so no help there.
> 
> Ron Fraser
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Allan Ballard via
> Tigers
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 1:39 AM
> To: Jay Laifman <[email-masked]>
> Cc: Tiger List List <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
> 
> These are going on my Forest
> Green Mk1a Tiger:
> 
> 
> 
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From: James Lindner via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 15 May 2022 12:39:33 -0400

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Along the lines of a photo library, I would direct you to the Tiger and Alpi=
ne Judging guides on the TEAE website. These documents took me years to put t=
ogether, and although the photos are often of restored cars, the information=
 contained within came from some of the most knowledgeable Tiger and Alpine p=
eople. I cannot swear it is absolutely 100% accurate, but it is pretty close=
.

The Tiger guide was my first effort and at 30+ pages it does not go too deep=
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https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/StockTigerQuickReferenc=
eV2-19.pdf

The Alpine guide however, is more comprehensive and runs to 130 pages.

https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Concours-Judging-Guide-=
Sunbeam-Alpines.pdf

These are living documents which I update occasionally. Soon I will be addin=
g the info about hinge fasteners, along with a couple other updates/correcti=
ons. OBTW=E2=80=A6I am going with unpainted hinge fasteners.

Jim Lindner

Sent from my iPad

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Along the lines of a photo library, I would=
 direct you to the Tiger and Alpine Judging guides on the TEAE website. Thes=
e documents took me years to put together, and although the photos are often=
 of restored cars, the information contained within came from some of the mo=
st knowledgeable Tiger and Alpine people. I cannot swear it is absolutely 10=
0% accurate, but it is pretty close.<div><br></div><div>The Tiger guide was m=
y first effort and at 30+ pages it does not go too deep.&nbsp;</div><div><br=
></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/=
StockTigerQuickReferenceV2-19.pdf">https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uplo=
ads/2019/08/StockTigerQuickReferenceV2-19.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div>T=
he Alpine guide however, is more comprehensive and runs to 130 pages.</div><=
div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2=
021/09/Concours-Judging-Guide-Sunbeam-Alpines.pdf">https://www.teae.org/cars=
/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Concours-Judging-Guide-Sunbeam-Alpines.pdf</a><b=
r><br>These are living documents which I update occasionally. Soon I will be=
 adding the info about hinge fasteners, along with a couple other updates/co=
rrections. OBTW=E2=80=A6I am going with unpainted hinge fasteners.</div><div=
><br></div><div>Jim Lindner</div><div><br></div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Se=
nt from my iPad</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 1=
5, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Ron Fraser &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br>=
</blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<span=
>Mayf sent me this note and I wanted to make sure everyone on the List</span=
><br><span>received it.</span><br><span></span><br><span>What I think we nee=
d is a photo record from any original owner with an</span><br><span>original=
 Tiger to send photos to the List.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Photos o=
f each Tiger Series would be the goal - B947, B948, B382 and B3821.</span><b=
r><span>I also think photos of each Alpine Series would be helpful.</span><b=
r><span></span><br><span>Ron Fraser</span><br><span></span><br><span>-----Or=
iginal Message-----</span><br><span>From: Larry Mayfield &lt;[email-masked]=
om&gt; </span><br><span>Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 10:49 AM</span><br><spa=
n>To: 'Ron Fraser' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</span><br><span>Subject: RE:=
 [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners</span><br><span></span><br><span>Ron=
, mine are OEM. Round slot screws where they run on the weather seal and</sp=
an><br><span>stud and nut other side through the deck and into the hinge. &n=
bsp;None are</span><br><span>painted. &nbsp;And my car has been painted 3 ti=
mes since I acquired it. Paint</span><br><span>shops knew not to paint them.=
 </span><br><span></span><br><span>mayf</span><br><span></span><br><span>---=
--Original Message-----</span><br><span>From: Tigers &lt;tigers-bounces@auto=
x.team.net&gt; On Behalf Of Ron Fraser</span><br><span>Sent: Saturday, May 1=
4, 2022 4:56 AM</span><br><span>To: 'Allan Ballard' &lt;[email-masked]=
om&gt;</span><br><span>Cc: [email-masked]</span><br><span>Subject: Re=
: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners</span><br><span></span><br><span>Al=
lan</span><br><span> &nbsp; &nbsp;The photo evidence indicates that the Part=
s List is not correct.</span><br><span></span><br><span>The fasteners should=
 be natural color, not painted.</span><br><span>The trunk lid would be paint=
ed 1st, paint cured then installed.</span><br><span></span><br><span>The Mar=
ch 1963 shows this screw in the Series I &amp; II section for the trunk</spa=
n><br><span>hinge</span><br><span>2203571 &nbsp; &nbsp;Screw, 1/4" UNF. X 1/=
2" Special</span><br><span>This screw is also listed for the Series III &amp=
; IV trunk hinge but the word</span><br><span>Special is not there.</span><b=
r><span></span><br><span>This screw # does not show up in the ZY section of t=
he Parts List.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Your pictures look like a la=
rge headed Round Screw much like a license plate</span><br><span>screw.</spa=
n><br><span></span><br><span>I know my trunk hinge fasteners are not origina=
l so no help there.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Ron Fraser</span><br><s=
pan></span><br><span></span><br><span>-----Original Message-----</span><br><=
span>From: Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt; On Behalf Of Allan B=
allard via</span><br><span>Tigers</span><br><span>Sent: Saturday, May 14, 20=
22 1:39 AM</span><br><span>To: Jay Laifman &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</sp=
an><br><span>Cc: Tiger List List &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</span><br><sp=
an>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners</span><br><span></spa=
n><br><span>These are going on my Forest</span><br><span>Green Mk1a Tiger:</=
span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>__________=
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