Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clueless video

From: JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 17:53:04 -0400

I saw the video Tom Witt pointed out. That guy is beyond clueless; he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. And he comes on that he’s a expert. There are to be a law…
Jim Armstrong

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> Jim
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>                I took a look at the remnants of my original tool kit strap.
> 
> The witness marks indicate that the buckle was to the rear.
> 
> 
> 
> Ron Fraser  
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> From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of James Armstrong via Tigers
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> Subject: [Tigers] toll roll belt
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> 
> Hello all,
> 
> 
> 
> My trunk restoration is coming to a close
> 
> I have a question on the placement of the tool roll fixing belt
> 
> 
> When the toll roll is out, does the belt buckle lay towards the front of the car, or the rear
> 
> I have pictures that depict both ways.
> 
> 
> 
> And if a picture is available, I'd really like to see them.
> 
> 
> 
> Yours for the sport,
> 
> 
> 
> Jim Armstrong
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> Not giving a clue here. The obvious is apparent. 
> https://youtu.be/EqJH49jWD9w?t=90 This is cued to a relevant point but 
> I'm sure there are more to be found.
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If it's on the internet, it must be true, right?

On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 5:53 PM JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers <
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> I saw the video Tom Witt pointed out. That guy is beyond clueless; he
> doesn=E2=80=99t know what he=E2=80=99s talking about. And he comes on tha=
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> There are to be a law=E2=80=A6
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">If =
it&#39;s on the internet, it must be true, right?</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 16, 2022=
 at 5:53 PM JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I saw the video Tom Witt pointed out. That gu=
y is beyond clueless; he doesn=E2=80=99t know what he=E2=80=99s talking abo=
ut. And he comes on that he=E2=80=99s a expert. There are to be a law=E2=80=
=A6<br>
Jim Armstrong<br>
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&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A01. Re: toll roll belt (Ron Fraser)<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A02. The myth, and other urban legends continues (Tom Witt)<=
br>
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&gt; Message: 1<br>
&gt; Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:06:56 -0400<br>
&gt; From: &quot;Ron Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; To: &quot;&#39;James Armstrong&#39;&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rollri=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Cc: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">tig=
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&gt; Subject: Re: [Tigers] toll roll belt<br>
&gt; Message-ID: &lt;001901d838c1$5f908520$1eb18f60$@<a href=3D"http://blue=
frog.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">bluefrog.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D&quot;utf-8&quot;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Jim<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I took a look a=
t the remnants of my original tool kit strap.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; The witness marks indicate that the buckle was to the rear.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Ron Fraser=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; From: Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; On Behalf Of James Arms=
trong via Tigers<br>
&gt; Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 12:07 PM<br>
&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">tigers@=
autox.team.net</a><br>
&gt; Subject: [Tigers] toll roll belt<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Hello all,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; My trunk restoration is coming to a close<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I have a question on the placement of the tool roll fixing belt<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; When the toll roll is out, does the belt buckle lay towards the front =
of the car, or the rear<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I have pictures that depict both ways.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; And if a picture is available, I&#39;d really like to see them.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Yours for the sport,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Jim Armstrong<br>
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&gt; Not giving a clue here. The obvious is apparent. <br>
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get=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/EqJH49jWD9w?t=3D90</a> This is cued to a re=
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&gt; I&#39;m sure there are more to be found.<br>
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That car was on craigslist in western Mass all last fall for $750, for
quite some time I may add. Isn't the guy talking, the owner of Empire Auto
of TV fame? Some parts there but not much else.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 6:29 PM Stu via Tigers <[email-masked]>
wrote:

>> doesn=E2=80=99t know what he=E2=80=99s talking about. And he comes on th=
at he=E2=80=99s a expert.
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achment-0001.htm
>> > https://youtu.be/EqJH49jWD9w?t=3D90 This is cued to a relevant point b=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">That car was on craigslist in western Mass all last fall f=
or $750, for quite some time I may add. Isn&#39;t the guy talking, the owne=
r of Empire Auto of TV fame? Some parts there but not much else.</div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar=
 16, 2022 at 6:29 PM Stu via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-l=
eft-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">If it&#39=
;s on the internet, it must be true, right?</div></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 5:=
53 PM JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-wid=
th:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-l=
eft:1ex">I saw the video Tom Witt pointed out. That guy is beyond clueless;=
 he doesn=E2=80=99t know what he=E2=80=99s talking about. And he comes on t=
hat he=E2=80=99s a expert. There are to be a law=E2=80=A6<br>
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Jeff

                That was Steve Magnante of Roadkill Junkyard Gold.

=20

I believe some of the earliest Tiger proto types probably had some =
hammer work done to clear everything until the proper transmission =
tunnel was engineered.

=20

You can=E2=80=99t have a production line with a burly guy swinging a =
hammer, it would have taken a team of burly guys which is too costly and =
too imprecise.

=20

Jensen cut the Alpine tunnel out and welded in the Tiger tunnel, no =
burly guys, no big hammers.

=20

We know Steve got it wrong and I know others who get it wrong too; it is =
one of those legends that gets more wrong every year.

=20

The story was written down so it had to be factual.

=20

Ron Fraser

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That car was on craigslist in western Mass all last fall for $750, for =
quite some time I may add. Isn't the guy talking, the owner of Empire =
Auto of TV fame? Some parts there but not much else.

=20

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=20

On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 5:53 PM JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers =

I saw the video Tom Witt pointed out. That guy is beyond clueless; he =
doesn=E2=80=99t know what he=E2=80=99s talking about. And he comes on =
that he=E2=80=99s a expert. There are to be a law=E2=80=A6
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jeff<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 That was Steve Magnante of Roadkill =
Junkyard Gold.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I believe =
some of the earliest Tiger proto types probably had some hammer work =
done to clear everything until the proper transmission tunnel was =
engineered.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>You can=E2=80=99t have a production line with a burly =
guy swinging a hammer, it would have taken a team of burly guys which is =
too costly and too imprecise.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Jensen cut =
the Alpine tunnel out and welded in the Tiger tunnel, no burly guys, no =
big hammers.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>We know Steve got it wrong and I know others who get =
it wrong too; it is one of those legends that gets more wrong every =
year.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The story was written down so it had to be =
factual.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> =
Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeffery =
Randall via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 16, 2022 7:42 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Stu &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> JAMES =
ARMSTRONG &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Tiger Net =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Clueless =
video<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>That car was on craigslist in western Mass all last =
fall for $750, for quite some time I may add. Isn't the guy talking, the =
owner of Empire Auto of TV fame? Some parts there but not much =
else.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 6:29 PM Stu via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>If =
it's on the internet, it must be true, =
right?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 5:53 PM JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers &lt;<a =
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I saw the =
video Tom Witt pointed out. That guy is beyond clueless; he =
doesn=E2=80=99t know what he=E2=80=99s talking about. And he comes on =
that he=E2=80=99s a expert. There are to be a law=E2=80=A6<br>Jim =
Armstrong<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>&gt; On Mar 16, 2022, at =
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-0400<br>&gt; From: &quot;Ron Fraser&quot; &lt;<a =
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&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I took a look at the =
remnants of my original tool kit strap.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; The witness =
marks indicate that the buckle was to the rear.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; =
<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Ron Fraser&nbsp; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; =
From: Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; On Behalf Of =
James Armstrong via Tigers<br>&gt; Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 12:07 =
PM<br>&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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toll roll belt<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hello all,<br>&gt; =
<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; My trunk restoration is coming to a =
close<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I have a question on the placement of the tool =
roll fixing belt<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; When the toll roll is out, =
does the belt buckle lay towards the front of the car, or the =
rear<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I have pictures that depict both ways.<br>&gt; =
<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; And if a picture is available, I'd really =
like to see them.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Yours for the =
sport,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Jim Armstrong<br>&gt; <a =
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From: Tom Witt via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 17:59:11 -0700

I re-watched the whole video again today. There seems 8 things he got 
wrong to some degree (in order of appearance):

He addressed the Tiger badging but neglected to mention the distinctive 
side trim.

He referred to the steering rack as "below the A-arms."  That is a term 
I have never heard and he failed to mention the rack was notched into 
the front/top of the crossmember.

The  firewall hammering issue was AGAIN brought up.

The Alpine/Tiger is not a body on frame car as he stated.

He stated the roll up windows were in the rear.

He stated the rear end was a Dana or Salisbury 45, not the 44 that it is.

He eluded that the  BW transmission was a only in the prototypes but the 
first 50 or so Tigers had them.

The last point I am not familiar with but he states the 1927 (he says 
1925) land speed Sunbeam was called the "Thunderbolt." The internet says 
Campbell called the car the Bluebird it was also nick named  "The Slug". 
I found no reference of it being called a Thunderbolt According Mike 
Taylor's book in the early 60's the (to be) Tiger was referred  to as a 
Thunderbolt but as Ford was using the name it was changed to Tiger. Too 
much to read at the moment to see what TBON has to say.

I actually met Magnante  at the Mopar Spring/Fall Fling. He is a very 
personable guy. For whatever reason other than the Barrett Jackson 
events his career seems to be in a holding pattern. He seems to be 
struggling to find his place in the internet world. Maybe accuracy has 
something to do with it. The day before he did a video on Studebaker and 
got a number of things wrong there too.

On 3/16/2022 2:53 PM, JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers wrote:
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From: "Ron Fraser" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 21:31:25 -0400

Tom

Sunbeam Thunderbolt was the code name for the 1963 Tiger concept.

Sunbeam Tiger was the 1925 race car driven by Major Henry O.D. Seagrave.

This is from Bill Carroll's book - pgs. 19 & 45 - also on pg.41 "the big bruiser of a man and the biggest mallet I've seen."

I'm sure in many cases Steve Magnante is researching the car he find on the internet on the spot and we know from experience most of that information is questionable.

My guess is Steve is trying to find a good way to earn a living.

Ron Fraser

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From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Tom Witt via Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 8:59 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clueless video

I re-watched the whole video again today. There seems 8 things he got wrong to some degree (in order of appearance):

He addressed the Tiger badging but neglected to mention the distinctive side trim.

He referred to the steering rack as "below the A-arms."  That is a term I have never heard and he failed to mention the rack was notched into the front/top of the crossmember.

He eluded that the  BW transmission was a only in the prototypes but the first 50 or so Tigers had them.

The last point I am not familiar with but he states the 1927 (he says
1925) land speed Sunbeam was called the "Thunderbolt." The internet says Campbell called the car the Bluebird it was also nick named  "The Slug". 
I found no reference of it being called a Thunderbolt According Mike Taylor's book in the early 60's the (to be) Tiger was referred  to as a Thunderbolt but as Ford was using the name it was changed to Tiger. Too much to read at the moment to see what TBON has to say.

I actually met Magnante  at the Mopar Spring/Fall Fling. He is a very personable guy. For whatever reason other than the Barrett Jackson events his career seems to be in a holding pattern. He seems to be struggling to find his place in the internet world. Maybe accuracy has something to do with it. The day before he did a video on Studebaker and got a number of things wrong there too.

On 3/16/2022 2:53 PM, JAMES ARMSTRONG via Tigers wrote:
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> expert. There are to be a law… Jim Armstrong
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From: Theo Smit via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 19:39:12 -0600

He also talked about there being a bulge in the trunk to clear the rear end on Tigers… but did not mention the relocated spare tire and battery. 

It’s tough for guys like him that review a lot of different cars and have to try to pick up points of interest on each one… they are always going to get massacred by the marque specialists.

Theo

> On Mar 16, 2022, at 7:31 PM, Ron Fraser <[email-masked]> wrote:
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From: Jim B via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 21:50:28 -0700

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Well, he got the steering box right anyway! Hey, it=E2=80=99s all =
entertainment =E2=80=A6 right?=20
And, he stirred up the Tiger Community so, it=E2=80=99s not all bad. ;-)
Cheers,
Jim B

> On Mar 16, 2022, at 6:39 PM, Theo Smit via Tigers =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> He also talked about there being a bulge in the trunk to clear the =
rear end on Tigers=E2=80=A6 but did not mention the relocated spare tire =
and battery.=20
>=20
> It=E2=80=99s tough for guys like him that review a lot of different =
cars and have to try to pick up points of interest on each one=E2=80=A6 =
they are always going to get massacred by the marque specialists.
>> Sunbeam Tiger was the 1925 race car driven by Major Henry O.D. =
Seagrave.
>>=20
>> This is from Bill Carroll's book - pgs. 19 & 45 - also on pg.41 "the =
big bruiser of a man and the biggest mallet I've seen."
>>=20
>> I'm sure in many cases Steve Magnante is researching the car he find =
on the internet on the spot and we know from experience most of that =
information is questionable.
>> From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Tom Witt =
via Tigers
>> I re-watched the whole video again today. There seems 8 things he got =
wrong to some degree (in order of appearance):
>>=20
>> He addressed the Tiger badging but neglected to mention the =
distinctive side trim.
>>=20
>> He referred to the steering rack as "below the A-arms."  That is a =
term I have never heard and he failed to mention the rack was notched =
into the front/top of the crossmember.
>> He stated the rear end was a Dana or Salisbury 45, not the 44 that it =
is.
>>=20
>> He eluded that the  BW transmission was a only in the prototypes but =
the first 50 or so Tigers had them.
>> 1925) land speed Sunbeam was called the "Thunderbolt." The internet =
says Campbell called the car the Bluebird it was also nick named  "The =
Slug".=20
>> I found no reference of it being called a Thunderbolt According Mike =
Taylor's book in the early 60's the (to be) Tiger was referred  to as a =
Thunderbolt but as Ford was using the name it was changed to Tiger. Too =
much to read at the moment to see what TBON has to say.
>>=20
>> I actually met Magnante  at the Mopar Spring/Fall Fling. He is a very =
personable guy. For whatever reason other than the Barrett Jackson =
events his career seems to be in a holding pattern. He seems to be =
struggling to find his place in the internet world. Maybe accuracy has =
something to do with it. The day before he did a video on Studebaker and =
got a number of things wrong there too.
>>> I saw the video Tom Witt pointed out. That guy is beyond clueless; =
he=20
>>> doesn=E2=80=99t know what he=E2=80=99s talking about. And he comes =
on that he=E2=80=99s a=20
>>> expert. There are to be a law=E2=80=A6 Jim Armstrong
>>>=20
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>=20
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">Well, he got the steering box =
right anyway! Hey, it=E2=80=99s all entertainment&nbsp;=E2=80=A6 =
right?&nbsp;</span><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" =
class=3D"">And, he stirred up the Tiger&nbsp;Community so, it=E2=80=99s =
not all bad. ;-)</span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
14px;" class=3D"">Cheers,</span></div><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">Jim B</span></div><div =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Mar 16, 2022, at 6:39 PM, Theo Smit via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">He =
also talked about there being a bulge in the trunk to clear the rear end =
on Tigers=E2=80=A6 but did not mention the relocated spare tire and =
battery. <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">It=E2=80=99s tough for guys like =
him that review a lot of different cars and have to try to pick up =
points of interest on each one=E2=80=A6 they are always going to get =
massacred by the marque specialists.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Theo<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Mar =
16, 2022, at 7:31 PM, Ron Fraser &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Tom<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sunbeam Thunderbolt was the =
code name for the 1963 Tiger concept.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sunbeam=
 Tiger was the 1925 race car driven by Major Henry O.D. Seagrave.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">This is from Bill Carroll's book - pgs. 19 =
&amp; 45 - also on pg.41 "the big bruiser of a man and the biggest =
mallet I've seen."<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I'm sure in many cases =
Steve Magnante is researching the car he find on the internet on the =
spot and we know from experience most of that information is =
questionable.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">My guess is Steve is trying =
to find a good way to earn a living.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Ron =
Fraser<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br class=3D"">From: Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Tom Witt =
via Tigers<br class=3D"">Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 8:59 PM<br =
class=3D"">To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [Tigers] =
Clueless video<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I re-watched the whole video =
again today. There seems 8 things he got wrong to some degree (in order =
of appearance):<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">He addressed the Tiger =
badging but neglected to mention the distinctive side trim.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">He referred to the steering rack as "below the =
A-arms." &nbsp;That is a term I have never heard and he failed to =
mention the rack was notched into the front/top of the crossmember.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">The &nbsp;firewall hammering issue was AGAIN =
brought up.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The Alpine/Tiger is not a body =
on frame car as he stated.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">He stated the =
roll up windows were in the rear.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">He stated =
the rear end was a Dana or Salisbury 45, not the 44 that it is.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">He eluded that the &nbsp;BW transmission was a =
only in the prototypes but the first 50 or so Tigers had them.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">The last point I am not familiar with but he =
states the 1927 (he says<br class=3D"">1925) land speed Sunbeam was =
called the "Thunderbolt." The internet says Campbell called the car the =
Bluebird it was also nick named &nbsp;"The Slug". <br class=3D"">I found =
no reference of it being called a Thunderbolt According Mike Taylor's =
book in the early 60's the (to be) Tiger was referred &nbsp;to as a =
Thunderbolt but as Ford was using the name it was changed to Tiger. Too =
much to read at the moment to see what TBON has to say.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I actually met Magnante &nbsp;at the Mopar Spring/Fall Fling. =
He is a very personable guy. For whatever reason other than the Barrett =
Jackson events his career seems to be in a holding pattern. He seems to =
be struggling to find his place in the internet world. Maybe accuracy =
has something to do with it. The day before he did a video on Studebaker =
and got a number of things wrong there too.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On 3/16/2022 2:53 PM, JAMES =
ARMSTRONG via Tigers wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">I saw the video Tom Witt pointed out. That guy is beyond =
clueless; he <br class=3D"">doesn=E2=80=99t know what he=E2=80=99s =
talking about. And he comes on that he=E2=80=99s a <br class=3D"">expert. =
There are to be a law=E2=80=A6 Jim Armstrong<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Sent from my iPhone<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Mar 16, 2022, at 2:01 PM, <a =
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 class=3D""> &nbsp;1. Re: toll roll belt (Ron Fraser)<br class=3D""> =
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------<br class=3D"">-<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Message: 1<br =
class=3D"">Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:06:56 -0400<br class=3D"">From: =
"Ron Fraser" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">To: "'James =
Armstrong'" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: =
[Tigers] toll roll belt<br class=3D"">Message-ID: &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br =
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class=3D"">Jim<br class=3D""><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;I took a look at the remnants of my original tool kit =
strap.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The witness marks indicate that the =
buckle was to the rear.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Ron Fraser<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">From: Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; On Behalf Of James <br =
class=3D"">Armstrong via Tigers<br class=3D"">Sent: Tuesday, March 15, =
2022 12:07 PM<br class=3D"">To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D"">Subject: [Tigers] =
toll roll belt<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Hello all,<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">My trunk restoration is coming to a close<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I have a question on the placement of the tool roll fixing =
belt<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">When the toll roll is =
out, does the belt buckle lay towards the front <br class=3D"">of the =
car, or the rear<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I have pictures that =
depict both ways.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">And if a picture is available, I'd really like to see =
them.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Yours =
for the sport,<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Jim Armstrong<br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a> =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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-0700<br class=3D"">From: Tom Witt &lt;<a =
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class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">To: "<a =
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class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>" &lt;<a =
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class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: [Tigers] =
The myth, and other urban legends continues<br class=3D"">Message-ID: =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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class=3D""><br class=3D"">Not giving a clue here. The obvious is =
apparent.<br class=3D""><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/EqJH49jWD9w?t=3D90" =
class=3D"">https://youtu.be/EqJH49jWD9w?t=3D90</a> This is cued to a =
relevant point <br class=3D"">but I'm sure there are more to be =
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