Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 132

From: Warren Goodman via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 17:47:18 +0000 (UTC)

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The replacement Sunbeam Specialties sells is heavier and likely better on t=
he side covers.=C2=A0The stock cores are thin tubes that are easily damaged=
 when rodding them out. While apart drop in another core, my .20 cents :)

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=C2=A0 1. Heater control valve (Joel Martin)
=C2=A0 2. Re: Heater control valve (Theo Smit)
=C2=A0 3. Re: Heater control valve (michael king)
=C2=A0 4. Re: Heater control valve (LARRY PAULICK)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 00:17:10 +0000 (UTC)
From: Joel Martin <[email-masked]>
To: Tiger List Serve <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Tigers] Heater control valve

Hello All
With a aluminum radiator, what should the pounds of the cap should be on th=
e overflow tank?? I have had a 13 pound cap on the overflow tank and have g=
one through 3? heater control values in 5700 miles and they all leak.
So now I am thinking about a 90 degrees manual valve with a very short hand=
le that would fit in the stock location as the heater control valve utilizi=
ng the bracket of the heater control valve that? would allow me to bleed al=
l air from the motor at the highest point, which I believe is the heater co=
re,. The idea is try and and retain as close to possible the stock correct =
look, be able to bleed any air when refilling the radiator and have the abi=
lity to manually turn on the heater once to twice a year as I live in a ver=
y moderate environment and drive the car year round.
Any ideas as to a part number or manufacture that would meet these requirem=
ents or any other ideas?
Thanks
Joel Martin
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 18:57:26 -0600 (MDT)
From: Theo Smit <[email-masked]>
To: Joel Martin <[email-masked]>
Cc: tigers <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Heater control valve

The main worry, as regards cooling system pressure, is the end tanks on the=
 heater core. Your radiator will be more than happy at anything the rest of=
 the system can handle.=20

Griffin recommends a 16 to 18 pound cap maximum.=20

Cheers,=20
Theo=20

From: "tigers" <[email-masked]>=20
To: "tigers" <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2022 6:17:10 PM=20
Subject: [Tigers] Heater control valve=20

Hello All=20

With a aluminum radiator, what should the pounds of the cap should be on th=
e overflow tank? I have had a 13 pound cap on the overflow tank and have go=
ne through 3 heater control values in 5700 miles and they all leak.=20

So now I am thinking about a 90 degrees manual valve with a very short hand=
le that would fit in the stock location as the heater control valve utilizi=
ng the bracket of the heater control valve that would allow me to bleed all=
 air from the motor at the highest point, which I believe is the heater cor=
e,. The idea is try and and retain as close to possible the stock correct l=
ook, be able to bleed any air when refilling the radiator and have the abil=
ity to manually turn on the heater once to twice a year as I live in a very=
 moderate environment and drive the car year round.=20

Any ideas as to a part number or manufacture that would meet these requirem=
ents or any other ideas?=20

Thanks=20

Joel Martin=20

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 09:32:30 +0800
From: michael king <[email-masked]>
To: Theo Smit <[email-masked]>
Cc: Joel Martin <[email-masked]>, tigers <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Heater control valve
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CAET8snXgWg+iME7zB2sU+P5QCMGbqFwNxvDXJUVX1tf3HNLCqg@mai=
l.gmail.com>

The Tiger heater core is a known weak point, the sides of the core balloon
and stick it in the recess.. and they will also crack and leak. The later
style smiths heater valve as used on MKIA and MKII also seems a weaker
design than the earlier style MKI valve.

The repro MKIA/II style valves (MGC) had several faulty batches and they
tended to fail.

A big consideration is the original heater cores came from the alpine..
they were designed for a 7-9lbs pressure, same with the valve... the tiger
system upped the psi and stresses the valves and core.

I would recommend getting a new heater core out of the UK as they are rated
to higher psi.. also add cable ties around the circumference of them to
help brace the ends to the core.

just my .02

On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 at 08:58, Theo Smit via Tigers <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> The main worry, as regards cooling system pressure, is the end tanks on
> the heater core. Your radiator will be more than happy at anything the re=
st
> of the system can handle.
>
> Griffin recommends a 16 to 18 pound cap maximum.
>
> Cheers,
> Theo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"tigers" <[email-masked]>
> *To: *"tigers" <[email-masked]>
> *Sent: *Monday, March 28, 2022 6:17:10 PM
> *Subject: *[Tigers] Heater control valve
>
> Hello All
>
> With a aluminum radiator, what should the pounds of the cap should be on
> the overflow tank?=C2=A0 I have had a 13 pound cap on the overflow tank a=
nd have
> gone through 3=C2=A0 heater control values in 5700 miles and they all lea=
k.
>
> So now I am thinking about a 90 degrees manual valve with a very short
> handle that would fit in the stock location as the heater control valve
> utilizing the bracket of the heater control valve that=C2=A0 would allow =
me to
> bleed all air from the motor at the highest point, which I believe is the
> heater core,. The idea is try and and retain as close to possible the sto=
ck
> correct look, be able to bleed any air when refilling the radiator and ha=
ve
> the ability to manually turn on the heater once to twice a year as I live
> in a very moderate environment and drive the car year round.
>
> Any ideas as to a part number or manufacture that would meet these
> requirements or any other ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Joel Martin
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 09:53:40 -0400
From: LARRY PAULICK <[email-masked]>
To: Theo Smit <[email-masked]>
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Heater control valve

I believe it was Tom Hall, who enclosed the valve mechanism in the heater c=
ore area. I did this using a Honda valve with a couple of tricks for all th=
e connections.=C2=A0 It has worked great since 1990 with no leaks.
Since it's a Honda valve
, it actually works as opposed to slow leaks in the Sunbeam valve, which ne=
ver really shuts off.

Of course it's not stock, but I always thought the heater valve looked like=
," oh we forgot something?, and was just plain ugly to me.

I have photos and an article.

> On Mar 28, 2022, at 8:57 PM, Theo Smit via Tigers <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
>=20
> The main worry, as regards cooling system pressure, is the end tanks on t=
he heater core. Your radiator will be more than happy at anything the rest =
of the system can handle.
>=20
> Griffin recommends a 16 to 18 pound cap maximum.
>=20
> Cheers,
> Theo
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2022 6:17:10 PM
> Subject: [Tigers] Heater control valve
>=20
> Hello All
>=20
> With a aluminum radiator, what should the pounds of the cap should be on =
the overflow tank?=C2=A0 I have had a 13 pound cap on the overflow tank and=
 have gone through 3=C2=A0 heater control values in 5700 miles and they all=
 leak.
>=20
> So now I am thinking about a 90 degrees manual valve with a very short ha=
ndle that would fit in the stock location as the heater control valve utili=
zing the bracket of the heater control valve that=C2=A0 would allow me to b=
leed all air from the motor at the highest point, which I believe is the he=
ater core,. The idea is try and and retain as close to possible the stock c=
orrect look, be able to bleed any air when refilling the radiator and have =
the ability to manually turn on the heater once to twice a year as I live i=
n a very moderate environment and drive the car year round.
>=20
> Any ideas as to a part number or manufacture that would meet these requir=
ements or any other ideas?
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
> Joel Martin
>=20
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The replacement Sunbeam Specialties sells is heavier and likely better on t=
he side covers.&nbsp;<div>The stock cores are thin tubes that are easily da=
maged when rodding them out. While apart drop in another core, my .20 cents=
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div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  1. Heater control valve =
(Joel Martin)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  2. Re: Heater control valve=
 (Theo Smit)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  3. Re: Heater control valve =
(michael king)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  4. Re: Heater control valv=
e (LARRY PAULICK)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
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------------------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mes=
sage: 1<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 00:17:10 +0000 (UT=
C)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Joel Martin &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:jma=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Tiger List Serve &lt;<a ymailto=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tigers@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Tigers] Heater c=
ontrol valve<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:1334692759.=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
ahoo.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charse=
t=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello All<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">With a aluminum radiator, what should the pounds =
of the cap should be on the overflow tank?? I have had a 13 pound cap on th=
e overflow tank and have gone through 3? heater control values in 5700 mile=
s and they all leak.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">So now I am thinking about a=
 90 degrees manual valve with a very short handle that would fit in the sto=
ck location as the heater control valve utilizing the bracket of the heater=
 control valve that? would allow me to bleed all air from the motor at the =
highest point, which I believe is the heater core,. The idea is try and and=
 retain as close to possible the stock correct look, be able to bleed any a=
ir when refilling the radiator and have the ability to manually turn on the=
 heater once to twice a year as I live in a very moderate environment and d=
rive the car year round.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Any ideas as to a part n=
umber or manufacture that would meet these requirements or any other ideas?=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Joel Martin<br>=
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v><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Theo Smit &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">To: Joel Martin &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Cc: tigers &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Tigers] Heater control valve<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:486403726.5545412.1648515446186.=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:486403726.5545412.1648515446186.Jav=
[email-masked]">486403726.5545412.1648515446186.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.=
ca</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"u=
tf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The main worry, =
as regards cooling system pressure, is the end tanks on the heater core. Yo=
ur radiator will be more than happy at anything the rest of the system can =
handle. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Griffin recom=
mends a 16 to 18 pound cap maximum. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Cheers, <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Theo <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: "tigers" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tigers@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: "tigers" &lt;<a ymail=
to=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">t=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Monday, March=
 28, 2022 6:17:10 PM <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Tigers] Heater co=
ntrol valve <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello All=
 <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">With a aluminum radi=
ator, what should the pounds of the cap should be on the overflow tank? I h=
ave had a 13 pound cap on the overflow tank and have gone through 3 heater =
control values in 5700 miles and they all leak. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">So now I am thinking about a 90 degrees manual v=
alve with a very short handle that would fit in the stock location as the h=
eater control valve utilizing the bracket of the heater control valve that =
would allow me to bleed all air from the motor at the highest point, which =
I believe is the heater core,. The idea is try and and retain as close to p=
ossible the stock correct look, be able to bleed any air when refilling the=
 radiator and have the ability to manually turn on the heater once to twice=
 a year as I live in a very moderate environment and drive the car year rou=
nd. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Any ideas as to a=
 part number or manufacture that would meet these requirements or any other=
 ideas? <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks <br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Joel Martin <br></div><div =
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">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CAET8snXgWg+iME7zB2sU+<a ymailto=3D"mailto:P5QCMGb=
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[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The Tiger heater core is=
 a known weak point, the sides of the core balloon<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">and stick it in the recess.. and they will also crack and leak. The later=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">style smiths heater valve as used on MKIA and MK=
II also seems a weaker<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">design than the earlier st=
yle MKI valve.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The rep=
ro MKIA/II style valves (MGC) had several faulty batches and they<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">tended to fail.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">A big consideration is the original heater cores came from the a=
lpine..<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">they were designed for a 7-9lbs pressure,=
 same with the valve... the tiger<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">system upped th=
e psi and stresses the valves and core.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">I would recommend getting a new heater core out of the UK=
 as they are rated<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">to higher psi.. also add cable=
 ties around the circumference of them to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">help br=
ace the ends to the core.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">just my .02<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue=
, 29 Mar 2022 at 08:58, Theo Smit via Tigers &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:tiger=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
et</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The main worry, as regards cooling system pressu=
re, is the end tanks on<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; the heater core. You=
r radiator will be more than happy at anything the rest<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; of the system can handle.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Griffin recommends a 16 to 18 pound cap maximum.=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Cheers,<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Theo<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt; ------------------------------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *From: =
*"tigers" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:ti=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt; *To: *"tigers" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *Sent: *Monday, March 28, 2022 6:17:10 PM<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *Subject: *[Tigers] Heater control valve<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Hello All<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; With a aluminum radiator, what=
 should the pounds of the cap should be on<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; t=
he overflow tank?&nbsp; I have had a 13 pound cap on the overflow tank and =
have<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; gone through 3&nbsp; heater control val=
ues in 5700 miles and they all leak.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; So now I am thinking about a 90 degrees manual valv=
e with a very short<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; handle that would fit in=
 the stock location as the heater control valve<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; utilizing the bracket of the heater control valve that&nbsp; would allo=
w me to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; bleed all air from the motor at the =
highest point, which I believe is the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; heater=
 core,. The idea is try and and retain as close to possible the stock<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; correct look, be able to bleed any air when refil=
ling the radiator and have<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; the ability to ma=
nually turn on the heater once to twice a year as I live<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; in a very moderate environment and drive the car year round.<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Any ideas as =
to a part number or manufacture that would meet these<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt; requirements or any other ideas?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Thanks<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Joel Martin<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; _______________________________________________<br><=
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div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 4<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Tue, 29 Mar=
 2022 09:53:40 -0400<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: LARRY PAULICK &lt;<a y=
mailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Theo Smit &l=
t;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tsmit@s=
haw.ca</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: "<a ymailto=3D"mailto:jmartini=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:jmartiniii@=
yahoo.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt;,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; "<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:tige=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:tige=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked].=
net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Tigers] Heater control =
valve<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:4A513F=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:4A513F3A-BB86-47=
[email-masked]">4A513F3A-BB86-4730-819B-1DEF3B2AD66A@veri=
zon.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=
=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I believe i=
t was Tom Hall, who enclosed the valve mechanism in the heater core area. I=
 did this using a Honda valve with a couple of tricks for all the connectio=
ns.&nbsp; It has worked great since 1990 with no leaks.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Since it's a Honda valve<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">, it actually w=
orks as opposed to slow leaks in the Sunbeam valve, which never really shut=
s off.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Of course it's =
not stock, but I always thought the heater valve looked like," oh we forgot=
 something?, and was just plain ugly to me.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have photos and an article.<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On Mar 28, 20=
22, at 8:57 PM, Theo Smit via Tigers &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.=
team.net" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Th=
e main worry, as regards cooling system pressure, is the end tanks on the h=
eater core. Your radiator will be more than happy at anything the rest of t=
he system can handle.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt; Griffin recommends a 16 to 18 pound cap maximum.<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Cheers,<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt; Theo<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: "=
tigers" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:tige=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> &lt;mailto:<a ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tigers@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: "tigers" &lt;<a ym=
ailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a> &lt;mailto:<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
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&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Sent: Monday, March 28, 2022 6:17:10 PM=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: [Tigers] Heater control valve<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Hello All<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; With a aluminum ra=
diator, what should the pounds of the cap should be on the overflow tank?&n=
bsp; I have had a 13 pound cap on the overflow tank and have gone through 3=
&nbsp; heater control values in 5700 miles and they all leak.<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; So now I am thinking abou=
t a 90 degrees manual valve with a very short handle that would fit in the =
stock location as the heater control valve utilizing the bracket of the hea=
ter control valve that&nbsp; would allow me to bleed all air from the motor=
 at the highest point, which I believe is the heater core,. The idea is try=
 and and retain as close to possible the stock correct look, be able to ble=
ed any air when refilling the radiator and have the ability to manually tur=
n on the heater once to twice a year as I live in a very moderate environme=
nt and drive the car year round.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Any ideas as to a part number or manufacture that woul=
d meet these requirements or any other ideas?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Thanks<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Joel Martin<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ______________________________________________=
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