Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rear Sway Bar

From: Michael Wood via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 18:34:20 +0000 (UTC)

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No doubt, a custom made rear bar, preferably adjustable, can be helpful, pa=
rticularly with a modified front end. Agree, the aftermarket stuff availabl=
e is not worth buying. Tiger guys tend to just do what others have done bef=
ore them, I'm afraid. Not a lot of testing or work goes into many decisions=
 and, because most of the cars don't work as well as they could, no one can=
 tell the difference.=C2=A0

-----Original Message-----
From: daniel doornbos via Tigers <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 10:24 am
Subject: [Tigers] Rear Sway Bar

 #yiv1305004813 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}I couldn't find an afterma=
rket rear sway bar for the Tiger I liked.=C2=A0 And I looked at the DIY wel=
d kits.=C2=A0 But after reading and finding that bending and welding impact=
 metal spring rate and you should temper the bar post fabrication to get it=
 to work correctly.=C2=A0 For the rear end and space I needed to put in ben=
ds around the pumpkin and linkages.=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0
I do recognize that welded options will also work well.=C2=A0 My Mustang II=
 front end from Mike H has a welded bar.=C2=A0 But for the rear packaging, =
I needed too many bends and couldn't locate a straight bar type in the spac=
e.=C2=A0 =C2=A0In the end, I went with a custom-built from=C2=A0https://www=
.carolinaswaybar.com/=C2=A0It was a premium price but they were great to wo=
rk with.=C2=A0
Maybe in the next decade I'll get enough motivation to finish and drive the=
 car to see how good my choices were.
dan
|  | Carolina Swaybar Manufacturing - Newland, NCCarolina Swaybar Manufactu=
ring designs and creates the best swaybars on the market today. Industry le=
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<div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:black;"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black;">No doubt, a custom made rear bar, preferably adjustable, can be helpful, particularly with a modified front end. Agree, the aftermarket stuff available is not worth buying. Tiger guys tend to just do what others have done before them, I'm afraid. Not a lot of testing or work goes into many decisions and, because most of the cars don't work as well as they could, no one can tell the difference.&nbsp;<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: daniel doornbos via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>To: [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 10:24 am<br>Subject: [Tigers] Rear Sway Bar<br><br></div><div id="yiv1305004813">

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I couldn't find an aftermarket rear sway bar for the Tiger I liked.&nbsp; And I looked at the DIY weld kits.&nbsp; But after reading and finding that bending and welding impact metal spring rate and you should temper the bar post fabrication to get it to work correctly.&nbsp;
 For the rear end and space I needed to put in bends around the pumpkin and linkages.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
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I do recognize that welded options will also work well.&nbsp; My Mustang II front end from Mike H has a welded bar.&nbsp; But for the rear packaging, I needed too many bends and couldn't locate a straight bar type in the space.&nbsp; &nbsp;<span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">In
 the end, I went with a custom-built from&nbsp;</span><a href="https://www.carolinaswaybar.com/" id="yiv1305004813LPlnk" style="font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.carolinaswaybar.com/</a><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">&nbsp;It
 was a premium price but they were great to work with.&nbsp;</span></div>
<div style="font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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Maybe in the next decade I'll get enough motivation to finish and drive the car to see how good my choices were.</div>
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From: Michael Wood via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 18:38:48 +0000 (UTC)

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Well...that was meant to go directly to Dan lol
Looks like I've outed myself. But, that's been my experience, YMMV.

-----Original Message-----
From: daniel doornbos via Tigers <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 10:24 am
Subject: [Tigers] Rear Sway Bar

 #yiv2119575773 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}I couldn't find an afterma=

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f; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Well...that was meant to go directly to =
Dan lol</div><div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-si=
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k;">Looks like I've outed myself. But, that's been my experience, YMMV.<br>=
<br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Michael Wood via Tigers &lt;tigers@=
autox.team.net&gt;<br>To: [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&g=
t;<br>Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 11:35 am<br>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rear Sway B=
ar<br><br></div><div id=3D"yiv2119575773"><div><div style=3D"font-size: 10p=
t; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: black;" data-mce-style=
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t; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-ser=
if; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">No doubt, a custom made rear bar, prefe=
rably adjustable, can be helpful, particularly with a modified front end. A=
gree, the aftermarket stuff available is not worth buying. Tiger guys tend =
to just do what others have done before them, I'm afraid. Not a lot of test=
ing or work goes into many decisions and, because most of the cars don't wo=
rk as well as they could, no one can tell the difference.&nbsp;<br clear=3D=
"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">-----Original Message-----<br =
clear=3D"none">From: daniel doornbos via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&g=
t;<br clear=3D"none">To: [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt=
;<br clear=3D"none">Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 10:24 am<br clear=3D"none">Subj=
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erif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;">
I couldn't find an aftermarket rear sway bar for the Tiger I liked.&nbsp; A=
nd I looked at the DIY weld kits.&nbsp; But after reading and finding that =
bending and welding impact metal spring rate and you should temper the bar =
post fabrication to get it to work correctly.&nbsp;
 For the rear end and space I needed to put in bends around the pumpkin and=
 linkages.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
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erif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;">
I do recognize that welded options will also work well.&nbsp; My Mustang II=
 front end from Mike H has a welded bar.&nbsp; But for the rear packaging, =
I needed too many bends and couldn't locate a straight bar type in the spac=
e.&nbsp; &nbsp;<span style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: Calibri, Helveti=
ca, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-fa=
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 the end, I went with a custom-built from&nbsp;</span><a shape=3D"rect" id=
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><span style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif=
; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: Calibri,=
 Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">&nbsp;It
 was a premium price but they were great to work with.&nbsp;</span></div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
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Maybe in the next decade I'll get enough motivation to finish and drive the=
 car to see how good my choices were.</div>
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From: GARY WINBLAD <[email-masked]>
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Its all good advice we all learn from you, thanks Mike.
Gary

>     On 09/30/2021 2:38 PM Michael Wood via Tigers <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>     No doubt, a custom made rear bar, preferably adjustable, can be helpful, particularly with a modified front end. Agree, the aftermarket stuff available is not worth buying. Tiger guys tend to just do what others have done before them, I'm afraid. Not a lot of testing or work goes into many decisions and, because most of the cars don't work as well as they could, no one can tell the difference. 
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>     I couldn't find an aftermarket rear sway bar for the Tiger I liked.  And I looked at the DIY weld kits.  But after reading and finding that bending and welding impact metal spring rate and you should temper the bar post fabrication to get it to work correctly.  For the rear end and space I needed to put in bends around the pumpkin and linkages.    
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>     I do recognize that welded options will also work well.  My Mustang II front end from Mike H has a welded bar.  But for the rear packaging, I needed too many bends and couldn't locate a straight bar type in the space.   In the end, I went with a custom-built from https://www.carolinaswaybar.com/ It was a premium price but they were great to work with. 
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>     Maybe in the next decade I'll get enough motivation to finish and drive the car to see how good my choices were.
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>     dan https://www.carolinaswaybar.com/
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>     Carolina Swaybar Manufacturing - Newland, NC https://www.carolinaswaybar.com/
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   Its all good advice we all learn from you, thanks Mike.
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    On 09/30/2021 2:38 PM Michael Wood via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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     Well...that was meant to go directly to Dan lol
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     Looks like I've outed myself. But, that's been my experience, YMMV.
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        No doubt, a custom made rear bar, preferably adjustable, can be helpful, particularly with a modified front end. Agree, the aftermarket stuff available is not worth buying. Tiger guys tend to just do what others have done before them, I'm afraid. Not a lot of testing or work goes into many decisions and, because most of the cars don't work as well as they could, no one can tell the difference.&nbsp;
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           I couldn't find an aftermarket rear sway bar for the Tiger I liked.&nbsp; And I looked at the DIY weld kits.&nbsp; But after reading and finding that bending and welding impact metal spring rate and you should temper the bar post fabrication to get it to work correctly.&nbsp; For the rear end and space I needed to put in bends around the pumpkin and linkages.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;
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           I do recognize that welded options will also work well.&nbsp; My Mustang II front end from Mike H has a welded bar.&nbsp; But for the rear packaging, I needed too many bends and couldn't locate a straight bar type in the space.&nbsp; &nbsp;<span style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">In the end, I went with a custom-built from&nbsp;</span><a target="_blank" style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" href="https://www.carolinaswaybar.com/" id="yiv2119575773LPlnk" shape="rect" rel="noopener">https://www.carolinaswaybar.com/</a><span style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">&nbsp;It was a premium price but they were great to work with.&nbsp;</span>
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           Maybe in the next decade I'll get enough motivation to finish and drive the car to see how good my choices were.
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I couldn't find an aftermarket rear sway bar for the Tiger I liked.  And =
I
looked at the DIY weld kits.  But after reading and finding that bending =
and
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I do recognize that welded options will also work well.  My Mustang II =
front
end from Mike H has a welded bar.  But for the rear packaging, I needed =
too
many bends and couldn't locate a straight bar type in the space.   In =
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end, I went with a custom-built from  <https://www.carolinaswaybar.com/>
https://www.carolinaswaybar.com/ It was a premium price but they were =
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Maybe in the next decade I'll get enough motivation to finish and drive =
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tabs on the side of the plate that the u-bolts go through to hold the =
lower links. The brackets that I made are very strong &nbsp;( =
6-3/8&#8221; bolts per side) and you&#8217;d have to rip the car apart =
before they would let go!&nbsp; The calculations say it&#8217;s only =
giving me about 75 lbs./inch with 12&#8221; arms and a 34&#8221; =
&nbsp;=BE&#8221; solid bar. It makes quite a difference which between =
the 3&nbsp; adjustment holes though. I got the bar. arms etc. from =
Speedway Engineering ( $200 ) and it was pretty reasonable =
actually&#8230; biggest job was to make the =
brackets!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>On another note, I have the &#8216;Stock&#8217; mounting =
for my panhard rod &#8230;I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s causing this =
( I think likely ) but I notice in hard cornering that the car will =
understeer some on left turns and oversteer on right turns !! Anyone =
else notice that effect ? I have quite a bit of &#8216;ackerman&#8217; =
correction in the front suspension also<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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doornbos via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 30, 2021 10:24 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Rear =
Sway Bar<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I couldn't find an aftermarket =
rear sway bar for the Tiger I liked.&nbsp; And I looked at the DIY weld =
kits.&nbsp; But after reading and finding that bending and welding =
impact metal spring rate and you should temper the bar post fabrication =
to get it to work correctly.&nbsp; For the rear end and space I needed =
to put in bends around the pumpkin and linkages.&nbsp; =
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<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I =
do recognize that welded options will also work well.&nbsp; My Mustang =
II front end from Mike H has a welded bar.&nbsp; But for the rear =
packaging, I needed too many bends and couldn't locate a straight bar =
type in the space.&nbsp; &nbsp;In the end, I went with a custom-built =
from&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"https://www.carolinaswaybar.com/"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>https://www.carolinaswaybar.com/</span></a><sp=
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but they were great to work =
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<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Thanks, Gary. I sometimes can be a little...umm...opinionated? I guess that=
's always been part of Tigering :)
But, I do spend a fair amount of time on suspension stuff and have done a g=
ood amount of testing. Still, I certainly don't know it all and am always o=
pen to learning more.

-----Original Message-----
From: GARY WINBLAD <[email-masked]>
To: Michael Wood <[email-masked]>; Michael Wood via Tigers <tiger
Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 11:45 am
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rear Sway Bar

  Its all good advice we all learn from you, thanks Mike.   Gary  =20
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te:  =20
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    Well...that was meant to go directly to Dan lol  =20
   Looks like I've outed myself. But, that's been my experience, YMMV.=20
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      No doubt, a custom made rear bar, preferably adjustable, can be helpf=
ul, particularly with a modified front end. Agree, the aftermarket stuff av=
ailable is not worth buying. Tiger guys tend to just do what others have do=
ne before them, I'm afraid. Not a lot of testing or work goes into many dec=
isions and, because most of the cars don't work as well as they could, no o=
ne can tell the difference.=C2=A0=20
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      I couldn't find an aftermarket rear sway bar for the Tiger I liked.=
=C2=A0 And I looked at the DIY weld kits.=C2=A0 But after reading and findi=
ng that bending and welding impact metal spring rate and you should temper =
the bar post fabrication to get it to work correctly.=C2=A0 For the rear en=
d and space I needed to put in bends around the pumpkin and linkages.=C2=A0=
 =C2=A0=C2=A0  =20
   I do recognize that welded options will also work well.=C2=A0 My Mustang=
 II front end from Mike H has a welded bar.=C2=A0 But for the rear packagin=
g, I needed too many bends and couldn't locate a straight bar type in the s=
pace.=C2=A0 =C2=A0In the end, I went with a custom-built from=C2=A0https://=
www.carolinaswaybar.com/=C2=A0It was a premium price but they were great to=
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the car to see how good my choices were.  =20
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<div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:black;"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black;">Thanks, Gary. I sometimes can be a little...umm...opinionated? I guess that's always been part of Tigering :)</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black;"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black;">But, I do spend a fair amount of time on suspension stuff and have done a good amount of testing. Still, I certainly don't know it all and am always open to learning more.<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: GARY WINBLAD &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>To: Michael Wood &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Michael Wood via Tigers &lt;tiger<br>Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 11:45 am<br>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rear Sway Bar<br><br></div><div id="yiv4265152769"><div>
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   Its all good advice we all learn from you, thanks Mike.
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        No doubt, a custom made rear bar, preferably adjustable, can be helpful, particularly with a modified front end. Agree, the aftermarket stuff available is not worth buying. Tiger guys tend to just do what others have done before them, I'm afraid. Not a lot of testing or work goes into many decisions and, because most of the cars don't work as well as they could, no one can tell the difference.&nbsp;
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           I couldn't find an aftermarket rear sway bar for the Tiger I liked.&nbsp; And I looked at the DIY weld kits.&nbsp; But after reading and finding that bending and welding impact metal spring rate and you should temper the bar post fabrication to get it to work correctly.&nbsp; For the rear end and space I needed to put in bends around the pumpkin and linkages.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;
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           I do recognize that welded options will also work well.&nbsp; My Mustang II front end from Mike H has a welded bar.&nbsp; But for the rear packaging, I needed too many bends and couldn't locate a straight bar type in the space.&nbsp; &nbsp;<span style="color:#000000;font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">In the end, I went with a custom-built from&nbsp;</span><a shape="rect" id="yiv4265152769LPlnk" style="font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" href="https://www.carolinaswaybar.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.carolinaswaybar.com/</a><span style="color:#000000;font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">&nbsp;It was a premium price but they were great to work with.&nbsp;</span>
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Jim,
Nice installation!
My analysis is get rid of that stock panhard rod.
Put your shocks on full soft and drive down the freeway.  As you go over sl=
ight dips an bumps the rear end will steer the Tiger
downright dangerously.  The stock rod is too short and is mounted not paral=
lel to the ground.
To get the stability back in the rear axle you get some springs with small =
bushings in the front, I got Dale's springs.
SO much better!
Gary

>     On 09/30/2021 2:45 PM jim via Tigers <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>     My car came with a home made 1 1/8=E2=80=9D front bar so understeered=
 a lot!  I got an addco rear bar but couldn=E2=80=99t figure out how to mou=
nt it so I made my own=E2=80=A6 mounted in front of the rear end and welded=
 a couple tabs on the side of the plate that the u-bolts go through to hold=
 the lower links. The brackets that I made are very strong  ( 6-3/8=E2=80=
=9D bolts per side) and you=E2=80=99d have to rip the car apart before they=
 would let go!  The calculations say it=E2=80=99s only giving me about 75 l=
bs./inch with 12=E2=80=9D arms and a 34=E2=80=9D  =C2=BE=E2=80=9D solid bar=
. It makes quite a difference which between the 3  adjustment holes though.=
 I got the bar. arms etc. from Speedway Engineering ( $200 ) and it was pre=
tty reasonable actually=E2=80=A6 biggest job was to make the brackets!
>=20
>     On another note, I have the =E2=80=98Stock=E2=80=99 mounting for my p=
anhard rod =E2=80=A6I=E2=80=99m not sure if it=E2=80=99s causing this ( I t=
hink likely ) but I notice in hard cornering that the car will understeer s=
ome on left turns and oversteer on right turns !! Anyone else notice that e=
ffect ? I have quite a bit of =E2=80=98ackerman=E2=80=99 correction in the =
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nbos via Tigers
>     I couldn't find an aftermarket rear sway bar for the Tiger I liked.  =
And I looked at the DIY weld kits.  But after reading and finding that bend=
ing and welding impact metal spring rate and you should temper the bar post=
 fabrication to get it to work correctly.  For the rear end and space I nee=
ded to put in bends around the pumpkin and linkages.   =20
>=20
>     =20
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>     I do recognize that welded options will also work well.  My Mustang I=
I front end from Mike H has a welded bar.  But for the rear packaging, I ne=
eded too many bends and couldn't locate a straight bar type in the space.  =
 In the end, I went with a custom-built from https://www.carolinaswaybar.co=
m/ https://www.carolinaswaybar.com/  It was a premium price but they were g=
reat to work with.=20
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ve the car to see how good my choices were.
>     Carolina Swaybar Manufacturing - Newland, NC https://www.carolinasway=
bar.com/
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=E2=80=9D &nbsp;=C2=BE=E2=80=9D solid bar. It makes quite a difference whic=
h between the 3&nbsp; adjustment holes though. I got the bar. arms etc. fro=
m Speedway Engineering ( $200 ) and it was pretty reasonable actually=E2=80=
=A6 biggest job was to make the brackets!</p>=20
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On another note, I have the =E2=80=98Stock=E2=80=
=99 mounting for my panhard rod =E2=80=A6I=E2=80=99m not sure if it=E2=80=
=99s causing this ( I think likely ) but I notice in hard cornering that th=
e car will understeer some on left turns and oversteer on right turns !! An=
yone else notice that effect ? I have quite a bit of =E2=80=98ackerman=E2=
=80=99 correction in the front suspension also</p>=20
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      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Tigers &lt;tigers-bounc=
[email-masked]&gt; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>daniel doornbos via Tig=
ers<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, September 30, 2021 10:24 AM<br><str=
ong>To:</strong> [email-masked]<br><strong>Subject:</strong> [Tigers=
] Rear Sway Bar</p>=20
     </div>=20
    </div>=20
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; color: black;=
">I couldn't find an aftermarket rear sway bar for the Tiger I liked.&nbsp;=
 And I looked at the DIY weld kits.&nbsp; But after reading and finding tha=
t bending and welding impact metal spring rate and you should temper the ba=
r post fabrication to get it to work correctly.&nbsp; For the rear end and =
space I needed to put in bends around the pumpkin and linkages.&nbsp; &nbsp=
;&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; color: black;=
">I do recognize that welded options will also work well.&nbsp; My Mustang =
II front end from Mike H has a welded bar.&nbsp; But for the rear packaging=
, I needed too many bends and couldn't locate a straight bar type in the sp=
ace.&nbsp; &nbsp;In the end, I went with a custom-built from&nbsp;</span><a=
 href=3D"https://www.carolinaswaybar.com/"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt=
;">https://www.carolinaswaybar.com/</span></a><span style=3D"font-size: 12.=
0pt; color: black;">&nbsp;It was a premium price but they were great to wor=
k with.&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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">Maybe in the next decade I'll get enough motivation to finish and drive t=
he car to see how good my choices were.</span></p>=20
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">dan</span></p>=20
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carolinaswaybar.com/" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"font-size: 16.0pt; fo=
nt-family: 'Segoe UI Light',sans-serif; text-decoration: none;">Carolina Sw=
aybar Manufacturing - Newland, NC</span></a></p>=20
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gin-bottom: 9.0pt; max-height: 100px; overflow: hidden;">=20
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mily: 'Segoe UI',sans-serif; color: #666666;">Carolina Swaybar Manufacturin=
g designs and creates the best swaybars on the market today. Industry leadi=
ng R&amp;D, commitment to customer satisfaction.</span></p>=20
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From: Michael Wood via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 01:13:18 +0000 (UTC)

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I wish Dale still had some of those springs for sale!! I talked to him abou=
t making more, but his guy went out of business.=C2=A0Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: GARY WINBLAD <[email-masked]>
To: jim <[email-masked]>; jim via Tigers <[email-masked]>; daniel do=
ornbos <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 1:09 pm
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rear Sway Bar

  Jim,   Nice installation!   My analysis is get rid of that stock panhard =
rod.   Put your shocks on full soft and drive down the freeway.=C2=A0 As yo=
u go over slight dips an bumps the rear end will steer the Tiger   downrigh=
t dangerously.=C2=A0 The stock rod is too short and is mounted not parallel=
 to the ground.   To get the stability back in the rear axle you get some s=
prings with small bushings in the front, I got Dale's springs.   SO much be=
tter!   Gary  =20
 =20
  On 09/30/2021 2:45 PM jim via Tigers <[email-masked]> wrote:  =20
  =20
  =20
My car came with a home made 1 1/8=E2=80=9D front bar so understeered a lot=
!=C2=A0 I got an addco rear bar but couldn=E2=80=99t figure out how to moun=
t it so I made my own=E2=80=A6 mounted in front of the rear end and welded =
a couple tabs on the side of the plate that the u-bolts go through to hold =
the lower links. The brackets that I made are very strong =C2=A0( 6-3/8=E2=
=80=9D bolts per side) and you=E2=80=99d have to rip the car apart before t=
hey would let go!=C2=A0 The calculations say it=E2=80=99s only giving me ab=
out 75 lbs./inch with 12=E2=80=9D arms and a 34=E2=80=9D =C2=A0=C2=BE=E2=80=
=9D solid bar. It makes quite a difference which between the 3=C2=A0 adjust=
ment holes though. I got the bar. arms etc. from Speedway Engineering ( $20=
0 ) and it was pretty reasonable actually=E2=80=A6 biggest job was to make =
the brackets!
=20
On another note, I have the =E2=80=98Stock=E2=80=99 mounting for my panhard=
 rod =E2=80=A6I=E2=80=99m not sure if it=E2=80=99s causing this ( I think l=
ikely ) but I notice in hard cornering that the car will understeer some on=
 left turns and oversteer on right turns !! Anyone else notice that effect =
? I have quite a bit of =E2=80=98ackerman=E2=80=99 correction in the front =
suspension also
=20

=20
Jim
=20
B382000446
=20

=20

=20

  =20
From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of daniel doornbos v=
ia Tigers
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 10:24 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Tigers] Rear Sway Bar
  =20

 =20
I couldn't find an aftermarket rear sway bar for the Tiger I liked.=C2=A0 A=
nd I looked at the DIY weld kits.=C2=A0 But after reading and finding that =
bending and welding impact metal spring rate and you should temper the bar =
post fabrication to get it to work correctly.=C2=A0 For the rear end and sp=
ace I needed to put in bends around the pumpkin and linkages.=C2=A0 =C2=A0=
=C2=A0
  =20
=C2=A0
  =20
I do recognize that welded options will also work well.=C2=A0 My Mustang II=
 front end from Mike H has a welded bar.=C2=A0 But for the rear packaging, =
I needed too many bends and couldn't locate a straight bar type in the spac=
e.=C2=A0 =C2=A0In the end, I went with a custom-built from=C2=A0https://www=
.carolinaswaybar.com/=C2=A0It was a premium price but they were great to wo=
rk with.=C2=A0
  =20
=C2=A0
  =20
Maybe in the next decade I'll get enough motivation to finish and drive the=
 car to see how good my choices were.
  =20
=C2=A0
  =20
dan
   =20
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  |  =20
Carolina Swaybar Manufacturing - Newland, NC
  =20
Carolina Swaybar Manufacturing designs and creates the best swaybars on the=
 market today. Industry leading R&D, commitment to customer satisfaction.
  =20
www.carolinaswaybar.com
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<div style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:b=
lack;"><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;=
color:black;">I wish Dale still had some of those springs for sale!! I talk=
ed to him about making more, but his guy went out of business.&nbsp;</div><=
div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:bl=
ack;">Mike<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: GARY WINBLAD &lt;=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>To: jim &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; jim via Tige=
rs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; daniel doornbos &lt;dan_doornbos@hotmail.=
com&gt;<br>Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2021 1:09 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rear Sw=
ay Bar<br><br></div><div id=3D"yiv4319228964"><div>=20
  <div>
    Jim,=20
  </div>=20
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    Nice installation!=20
  </div>=20
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    My analysis is get rid of that stock panhard rod.=20
  </div>=20
  <div class=3D"yiv4319228964default-style">
    Put your shocks on full soft and drive down the freeway.&nbsp; As you g=
o over slight dips an bumps the rear end will steer the Tiger=20
  </div>=20
  <div class=3D"yiv4319228964default-style">
    downright dangerously.&nbsp; The stock rod is too short and is mounted =
not parallel to the ground.=20
  </div>=20
  <div class=3D"yiv4319228964default-style">
    To get the stability back in the rear axle you get some springs with sm=
all bushings in the front, I got Dale's springs.=20
  </div>=20
  <div class=3D"yiv4319228964default-style">
    SO much better!=20
  </div>=20
  <div class=3D"yiv4319228964default-style">
    Gary=20
  </div>=20
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  <blockquote type=3D"cite">=20
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div>
     On 09/30/2021 2:45 PM jim via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wro=
te:=20
   </div>=20
   <div>=20
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    <br clear=3D"none">=20
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   <div class=3D"yiv4319228964WordSection1">=20
    <p class=3D"yiv4319228964MsoNormal">My car came with a home made 1 1/8=
=E2=80=9D front bar so understeered a lot!&nbsp; I got an addco rear bar bu=
t couldn=E2=80=99t figure out how to mount it so I made my own=E2=80=A6 mou=
nted in front of the rear end and welded a couple tabs on the side of the p=
late that the u-bolts go through to hold the lower links. The brackets that=
 I made are very strong &nbsp;( 6-3/8=E2=80=9D bolts per side) and you=E2=
=80=99d have to rip the car apart before they would let go!&nbsp; The calcu=
lations say it=E2=80=99s only giving me about 75 lbs./inch with 12=E2=80=9D=
 arms and a 34=E2=80=9D &nbsp;=C2=BE=E2=80=9D solid bar. It makes quite a d=
ifference which between the 3&nbsp; adjustment holes though. I got the bar.=
 arms etc. from Speedway Engineering ( $200 ) and it was pretty reasonable =
actually=E2=80=A6 biggest job was to make the brackets!</p>=20
    <p class=3D"yiv4319228964MsoNormal">On another note, I have the =E2=80=
=98Stock=E2=80=99 mounting for my panhard rod =E2=80=A6I=E2=80=99m not sure=
 if it=E2=80=99s causing this ( I think likely ) but I notice in hard corne=
ring that the car will understeer some on left turns and oversteer on right=
 turns !! Anyone else notice that effect ? I have quite a bit of =E2=80=98a=
ckerman=E2=80=99 correction in the front suspension also</p>=20
    <p class=3D"yiv4319228964MsoNormal"><img id=3D"yiv4319228964Picture_x00=
20_2" alt=3D"A close-up of a car engine  Description automatically generate=
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"1533"></p>=20
    <p class=3D"yiv4319228964MsoNormal">Jim</p>=20
    <p class=3D"yiv4319228964MsoNormal">B382000446</p>=20
    <p class=3D"yiv4319228964MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"none"></p>=20
    <p class=3D"yiv4319228964MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"none"></p>=20
    <p class=3D"yiv4319228964MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"none"></p>=20
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      <p class=3D"yiv4319228964MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Tigers &lt=
;[email-masked]&gt; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>daniel doo=
rnbos via Tigers<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, Septemb=
er 30, 2021 10:24 AM<br clear=3D"none"><strong>To:</strong> [email-masked]=
am.net<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Subject:</strong> [Tigers] Rear Sway Bar</=
p>=20
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    </div>=20
    <p class=3D"yiv4319228964MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"none"></p>=20
    <div>=20
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lor:black;">I couldn't find an aftermarket rear sway bar for the Tiger I li=
ked.&nbsp; And I looked at the DIY weld kits.&nbsp; But after reading and f=
inding that bending and welding impact metal spring rate and you should tem=
per the bar post fabrication to get it to work correctly.&nbsp; For the rea=
r end and space I needed to put in bends around the pumpkin and linkages.&n=
bsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
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lor:black;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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     <p class=3D"yiv4319228964MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;co=
lor:black;">I do recognize that welded options will also work well.&nbsp; M=
y Mustang II front end from Mike H has a welded bar.&nbsp; But for the rear=
 packaging, I needed too many bends and couldn't locate a straight bar type=
 in the space.&nbsp; &nbsp;In the end, I went with a custom-built from&nbsp=
;</span><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.carolinaswaybar.com/" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">h=
ttps://www.carolinaswaybar.com/</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;c=
olor:black;">&nbsp;It was a premium price but they were great to work with.=
&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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lor:black;">Maybe in the next decade I'll get enough motivation to finish a=
nd drive the car to see how good my choices were.</span></p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
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r"><span style=3D"font-size:16.0pt;font-family:'Segoe UI Light', sans-serif=
;text-decoration:none;">Carolina Swaybar Manufacturing - Newland, NC</span>=
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5pt;font-family:'Segoe UI', sans-serif;color:#666666;">Carolina Swaybar Man=
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try leading R&amp;D, commitment to customer satisfaction.</span></p>=20
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