Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

From: steve wick via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2021 12:44:46 +0000

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I'd be interested in hearing if someone comes up with a modern paint code. =
My car is supposed to be Midnight Blue, but was stripped and repainted red =
back in the mid '70's, so I don't have a spot where I can have the paint sh=
op scan the old paint.

Steve

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From: Tigers <[email-masked]> on behalf of Ron Fraser <rfras=
[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:04 AM
To: 'Richard Bruner' <[email-masked]>
Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked] <tigers@=
autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

Richard

                You probably got those numbers from me.

The problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer translate =
to a paint mix.

Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes available but mos=
t do not.

Ron Fraser

From: Richard Bruner <[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM
To: Ron Fraser <[email-masked]>
Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

This is what I had saved from somewhere:

Ditzler code: 12633
Dulux enamel: 97365
Chrysler #: 75242838
Burger code: 404.1710
ICI: 2983

On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:
> Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue =E2=80=93 Ditzler # 12633
>
>
>
> The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or translate
> well into the new paint codes of today.
>
> 1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you want for
> your car.
>
> If someone here has the current paint code for #58, pass it along.
>
>
>
> Any Automotive paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single stage
> or base coat/ clear coat.
>
> Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the painter=E2=80=
=99s
> preference.
>
>
>
> Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as far
> as I know. I have asked about water base paints and they would not sell
> them to me.
>
> You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to spray, dry and
> cure water base paint.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
>
m.net>> On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp
> via Tigers
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:40 AM
m.net>>
> Subject: [Tigers] New paints
>
>
>
> My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insurance is getting a complete
> repaint, my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . My
> cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base
> coat clear coat.
>
> I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new products=
.
> Any ideas are appreciated. Beau
>
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I'd be interested in hearing if someone comes up with a modern paint code. =
My car is supposed to be Midnight Blue, but was stripped and repainted red =
back in the mid '70's, so I don't have a spot where I can have the paint sh=
op scan the old paint.</div>
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Richard</p>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
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The problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer translate =
to a paint mix.</p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt=
; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes available but mos=
t do not.</p>
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; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
&nbsp;</p>
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Ron Fraser</p>
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<b>From:</b> Richard Bruner &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ron Fraser &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Lance Beauchamp' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; [email-masked]=
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This is what I had saved from somewhere:<br>
<br>
Ditzler code: 12633<br>
Dulux enamel: 97365<br>
Chrysler #: 75242838<br>
Burger code: 404.1710<br>
ICI: 2983<br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:<br>
&gt; Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue =E2=80=93 Ditzler # 12633<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or transla=
te<br>
&gt; well into the new paint codes of today.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you want =
for<br>
&gt; your car.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If someone here has the current paint code for #58, pass it along.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Any Automotive paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single st=
age<br>
&gt; or base coat/ clear coat.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the painter=E2=
=80=99s<br>
&gt; preference.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as f=
ar<br>
&gt; as I know. I have asked about water base paints and they would not sel=
l<br>
&gt; them to me.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to spray, dry and=
<br>
&gt; cure water base paint.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ron Fraser<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
From: Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tigers-bo=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp<br>
&gt; via Tigers<br>
&gt; Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:40 AM<br>
&gt; To: Tiger Club. Submission &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: [Tigers] New paints<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insurance is getting a compl=
ete<br>
&gt; repaint, my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . M=
y<br>
&gt; cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do b=
ase<br>
&gt; coat clear coat.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new produ=
cts.<br>
&gt; Any ideas are appreciated. Beau<br>
&gt;<br>
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From: michael king <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2021 20:53:36 +0800

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Steve,

Take off the latch panel for the bonnet covering the heater matrix in the
scuttle. The underside will have the original paint. And it won't be sun
faded.

On Wednesday, 1 September 2021, steve wick via Tigers <[email-masked]=
t>
wrote:

> I'd be interested in hearing if someone comes up with a modern paint code=
.
> My car is supposed to be Midnight Blue, but was stripped and repainted re=
d
> back in the mid '70's, so I don't have a spot where I can have the paint
> shop scan the old paint.
>
> Steve
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Tigers <[email-masked]> on behalf of Ron Fraser <
> [email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 30, 2021 8:04 AM
> *To:* 'Richard Bruner' <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* 'Lance Beauchamp' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked] <
> [email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] New paints
>
>
> Richard
>
> The problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer translat=
e
> to a paint mix.
>
> Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes available but
> most do not.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Richard Bruner <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM
> *To:* Ron Fraser <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* 'Lance Beauchamp' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] New paints
>
>
>
> > Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C Ditzler # 12633
> >
> >
> >
> > The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or translat=
e
> > 1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you want f=
or
> > Any Automotive paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single sta=
ge
> > Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the painter=C3=
=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s
> > preference.
> >
> >
> >
> > Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as fa=
r
> From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp
> > via Tigers
> > To: Tiger Club. Submission <[email-masked]>
> > My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insurance is getting a comple=
te
> > cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do ba=
se
> > coat clear coat.
> >
> > I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new
> products.

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Steve,<div><br></div><div>Take off the latch panel for the bonnet covering =
the heater matrix in the scuttle. The underside will have the original pain=
t. And it won&#39;t be sun faded.<br><br>On Wednesday, 1 September 2021, st=
eve wick via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tigers@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
I&#39;d be interested in hearing if someone comes up with a modern paint co=
de. My car is supposed to be Midnight Blue, but was stripped and repainted =
red back in the mid &#39;70&#39;s, so I don&#39;t have a spot where I can h=
ave the paint shop scan the old paint.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Steve</div>
<div>
<div></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
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=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounce=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><wbr>&=
gt; on behalf of Ron Fraser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 8:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> &#39;Richard Bruner&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gammaman@mokancom=
m.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> &#39;Lance Beauchamp&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:blance598@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:tiger=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] New paints</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
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<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans=
-serif">
Richard</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans=
-serif">
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 You probably got those numbers from me.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans=
-serif">
=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans=
-serif">
The problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer translate =
to a paint mix.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans=
-serif">
Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes available but mos=
t do not.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans=
-serif">
=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans=
-serif">
Ron Fraser</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans=
-serif">
=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans=
-serif">
<b>From:</b> Richard Bruner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ron Fraser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> &#39;Lance Beauchamp&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:blance598@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:tiger=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] New paints</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans=
-serif">
=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans=
-serif">
This is what I had saved from somewhere:<br>
<br>
Ditzler code: 12633<br>
Dulux enamel: 97365<br>
Chrysler #: 75242838<br>
Burger code: 404.1710<br>
ICI: 2983<br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:<br>
&gt; Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C Ditzler # 1263=
3<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or transla=
te<br>
&gt; well into the new paint codes of today.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you want =
for<br>
&gt; your car.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If someone here has the current paint code for #58, pass it along.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Any Automotive paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single st=
age<br>
&gt; or base coat/ clear coat.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the painter=C3=
=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s<br>
&gt; preference.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as f=
ar<br>
&gt; as I know. I have asked about water base paints and they would not sel=
l<br>
&gt; them to me.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to spray, dry and=
<br>
&gt; cure water base paint.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ron Fraser<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
From: Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a><wbr>&gt; On Behalf Of Lance Beau=
champ<br>
&gt; via Tigers<br>
&gt; Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:40 AM<br>
&gt; To: Tiger Club. Submission &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: [Tigers] New paints<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insurance is getting a compl=
ete<br>
&gt; repaint, my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . M=
y<br>
&gt; cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do b=
ase<br>
&gt; coat clear coat.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I hear their is water based paints now, I&#39;m not to up on the new p=
roducts.<br>
&gt; Any ideas are appreciated. Beau<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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I'll give that a shot. They were very thorough, and even painted inside the=
 trunk and passenger compartment.

Steve

________________________________
From: michael king <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 5:53 AM
To: steve wick <[email-masked]>
Cc: Ron Fraser <[email-masked]>; Richard Bruner <[email-masked]=
et>; Lance Beauchamp <[email-masked]>; [email-masked] <tigers@a=
utox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

Steve,

Take off the latch panel for the bonnet covering the heater matrix in the s=
cuttle. The underside will have the original paint. And it won't be sun fad=
ed.

Steve

og.com>>
ilto:[email-masked]>>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

Richard

Ron Fraser

Ditzler code: 12633
Dulux enamel: 97365
Chrysler #: 75242838
Burger code: 404.1710
ICI: 2983

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[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 1, 2021 5:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> steve wick &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ron Fraser &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Richard Bruner &lt;gamm=
[email-masked]&gt;; Lance Beauchamp &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; tigers=
@autox.team.net &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] New paints</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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<div>Steve,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Take off the latch panel for the bonnet covering the heater matrix in =
the scuttle. The underside will have the original paint. And it won't be su=
n faded.<br>
<br>
On Wednesday, 1 September 2021, steve wick via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"x_gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)">
I'd be interested in hearing if someone comes up with a modern paint code. =
My car is supposed to be Midnight Blue, but was stripped and repainted red =
back in the mid '70's, so I don't have a spot where I can have the paint sh=
op scan the old paint.</div>
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or:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
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or:rgb(0,0,0)">
Steve</div>
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=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounce=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><wbr>&=
gt; on behalf of Ron Fraser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 8:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Richard Bruner' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Lance Beauchamp' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;;
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
m.net</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">ti=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] New paints</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif">
Richard</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You probably got those numbers from me.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif">
&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif">
The problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer translate =
to a paint mix.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif">
Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes available but mos=
t do not.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif">
&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif">
Ron Fraser</p>
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ns-serif">
&nbsp;</p>
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ns-serif">
<b>From:</b> Richard Bruner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ron Fraser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Lance Beauchamp' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;;
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m.net</a><br>
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ns-serif">
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ns-serif">
This is what I had saved from somewhere:<br>
<br>
Ditzler code: 12633<br>
Dulux enamel: 97365<br>
Chrysler #: 75242838<br>
Burger code: 404.1710<br>
ICI: 2983<br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:<br>
&gt; Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue =E2=80=93 Ditzler # 12633<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or transla=
te<br>
&gt; well into the new paint codes of today.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you want =
for<br>
&gt; your car.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If someone here has the current paint code for #58, pass it along.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Any Automotive paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single st=
age<br>
&gt; or base coat/ clear coat.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the painter=E2=
=80=99s<br>
&gt; preference.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as f=
ar<br>
&gt; as I know. I have asked about water base paints and they would not sel=
l<br>
&gt; them to me.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to spray, dry and=
<br>
&gt; cure water base paint.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ron Fraser<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
From: Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a><wbr>&gt; On Behalf Of Lance Beau=
champ<br>
&gt; via Tigers<br>
&gt; Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:40 AM<br>
&gt; To: Tiger Club. Submission &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: [Tigers] New paints<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insurance is getting a compl=
ete<br>
&gt; repaint, my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . M=
y<br>
&gt; cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do b=
ase<br>
&gt; coat clear coat.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new produ=
cts.<br>
&gt; Any ideas are appreciated. Beau<br>
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Steve 

                Here are a couple of notes I found but I'm not sure of the
dates for these comments.  I also do not know if the phone #s are correct

The PPG Color Library has catalogues of colors going waaaay back. If you
give them the year make and model, they can look up any color and give to a
modern paint number to match, as well as the original paint code in PPG
paint.

PPG Color Library 8:30 am to 5:30 pm (weekdays) (440) 572-6100
Strongsville, OH 

>From Jalopy Journal

We regularly get paint codes or their modern equivalents (called offsets)
for cars back into the early 30's thru the Ditzler Color Library. Have your
supplier phone them at 800-647-6050. Not sure they will give info to a
private citizen or if you have to be a shop but worth a try. For example, in
1931 Chev used a "Cellini Green" on wheels. Same color was used on '68 VW as
"Sumatra Green". If you have the color name and/or the application they can
likely help you.

>From AACA Forums

I have 2 modern paint codes that I believe work.

Yes, it would be very nice to have a complete listing of modern paint codes
for Rootes vehicles.

86           Forest Green                     GS280

106         Commodore Blue             BS616A  H

Ron Fraser

From: steve wick <[email-masked]> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2021 8:45 AM
To: Ron Fraser <[email-masked]>; 'Richard Bruner'
<[email-masked]>
Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

I'd be interested in hearing if someone comes up with a modern paint code.
My car is supposed to be Midnight Blue, but was stripped and repainted red
back in the mid '70's, so I don't have a spot where I can have the paint
shop scan the old paint.

Steve

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class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Here are a couple of notes I found =
but I&#8217;m not sure of the dates for these comments.&nbsp; I also do =
not know if the phone #s are correct<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The <b>PPG =
Color Library</b> has catalogues of colors going waaaay back. If you =
give them the year make and model, they can look up any color and give =
to a modern paint number to match, as well as the original paint code in =
PPG paint.<br><br><b>PPG Color Library</b> 8:30 am to 5:30 pm (weekdays) =
(440) 572-6100<br>Strongsville, OH <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>From Jalopy =
Journal<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>We regularly =
get paint codes or their modern equivalents (called offsets) for cars =
back into the early 30's thru the Ditzler Color Library. Have your =
supplier phone them at 800-647-6050. Not sure they will give info to a =
private citizen or if you have to be a shop but worth a try. For =
example, in 1931 Chev used a &quot;Cellini Green&quot; on wheels. Same =
color was used on '68 VW as &quot;Sumatra Green&quot;. If you have the =
color name and/or the application they can likely help =
you.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>From AACA Forums<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have 2 =
modern paint codes that I believe work.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Yes, it would be very nice to have a complete listing =
of modern paint codes for Rootes vehicles.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>86&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp; Forest Green&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; GS280<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>106&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Commodore =
Blue&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; BS616A&nbsp; H<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> steve wick =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 01, =
2021 8:45 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; =
'Richard Bruner' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Lance =
Beauchamp' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] New =
paints<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I'd be interested in hearing if =
someone comes up with a modern paint code. My car is supposed to be =
Midnight Blue, but was stripped and repainted red back in the mid '70's, =
so I don't have a spot where I can have the paint shop scan the old =
paint.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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I remember a number of years back this message board had a significant 
debate of what the real #86 BRG was. I recall discussion regarding paint 
that wasn't exposed to the elements still "aging," that a more recent 
repaint was therefore was more accurate as it had aged less, that any 
modern formulation method wasn't accurate and what REAL BRG was compared 
to Rootes BRG, and that Rootes got it wrong - I faintly recall one 
argument being (no that that mattered). Nothing wrong with striving for 
accuracy. It just seem like a moving target to hit and subject to the 
opinion of others. Wishing you the best in whatever you decide. In the 
end only YOU need to be content.

On 9/1/2021 5:53 AM, michael king wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Take off the latch panel for the bonnet covering the heater matrix in 
> the scuttle. The underside will have the original paint. And it won't 
> be sun faded.
>
> On Wednesday, 1 September 2021, steve wick via Tigers 
>
>     I'd be interested in hearing if someone comes up with a modern
>     paint code. My car is supposed to be Midnight Blue, but was
>     stripped and repainted red back in the mid '70's, so I don't have
>     a spot where I can have the paint shop scan the old paint.
>
>     Steve
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* Tigers <[email-masked]
>     *To:* 'Richard Bruner' <[email-masked]
>     *Cc:* 'Lance Beauchamp' <[email-masked]
>     The problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer
>     translate to a paint mix.
>
>     Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes
>     available but most do not.
>
>     Ron Fraser
>
>     *From:* Richard Bruner <[email-masked]
>     *Cc:* 'Lance Beauchamp' <[email-masked]
>     > Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue â€“ Ditzler # 12633
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the
>     painterâ€™s
>     > preference.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     From: Tigers <[email-masked]
>     > via Tigers
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    <p>I remember a number of years back this message board had a
      significant debate of what the real #86 BRG was. I recall
      discussion regarding paint that wasn't exposed to the elements
      still "aging," that a more recent repaint was therefore was more
      accurate as it had aged less, that any modern formulation method
      wasn't accurate and what REAL BRG was compared to Rootes BRG, and
      that Rootes got it wrong - I faintly recall one argument being (no
      that that mattered). Nothing wrong with striving for accuracy. It
      just seem like a moving target to hit and subject to the opinion
      of others. Wishing you the best in whatever you decide. In the end
      only YOU need to be content.<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/1/2021 5:53 AM, michael king
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAET8snUnVv2OJxujtujJpzuZtTG=nOEeUX7X-uB-pK+=[email-masked]">
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      Steve,
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Take off the latch panel for the bonnet covering the heater
        matrix in the scuttle. The underside will have the original
        paint. And it won't be sun faded.<br>
        <br>
        On Wednesday, 1 September 2021, steve wick via Tigers &lt;<a
          href="mailto:[email-masked]" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
        wrote:<br>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir="ltr">
            <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I'd
              be interested in hearing if someone comes up with a modern
              paint code. My car is supposed to be Midnight Blue, but
              was stripped and repainted red back in the mid '70's, so I
              don't have a spot where I can have the paint shop scan the
              old paint.</div>
            <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
            </div>
            <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Steve</div>
            <div>
              <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
              </div>
              <hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%">
              <div dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri,
                  sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Tigers &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a><wbr>&gt;
                  on behalf of Ron Fraser &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 8:04 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> 'Richard Bruner' &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                  <b>Cc:</b> 'Lance Beauchamp' &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;;
                  <a href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>
                  &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] New paints</font>
                <div> </div>
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                  <p style="margin:0in 0in
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                    Richard</p>
                  <p style="margin:0in 0in
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                                    You probably got those numbers from
                    me.</p>
                  <p style="margin:0in 0in
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                     </p>
                  <p style="margin:0in 0in
                    0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
                    The problem is that at my paint shop those old
                    numbers no longer translate to a paint mix.</p>
                  <p style="margin:0in 0in
                    0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
                    Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and
                    mixes available but most do not.</p>
                  <p style="margin:0in 0in
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                     </p>
                  <p style="margin:0in 0in
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                    Ron Fraser</p>
                  <p style="margin:0in 0in
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                     </p>
                  <p style="margin:0in 0in
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                    <b>From:</b> Richard Bruner &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                    <br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Ron Fraser &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                    <b>Cc:</b> 'Lance Beauchamp' &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;;
                    <a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] New paints</p>
                  <p style="margin:0in 0in
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                     </p>
                  <p style="margin:0in 0in
                    0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
                    This is what I had saved from somewhere:<br>
                    <br>
                    Ditzler code: 12633<br>
                    Dulux enamel: 97365<br>
                    Chrysler #: 75242838<br>
                    Burger code: 404.1710<br>
                    ICI: 2983<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via
                    Tigers wrote:<br>
                    &gt; Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue â€“ Ditzler #
                    12633<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; The problem is that these old paint codes do
                    not correspond or translate<br>
                    &gt; well into the new paint codes of today.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; 1st you need to see about getting the color
                    match paint code you want for<br>
                    &gt; your car.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; If someone here has the current paint code for
                    #58, pass it along.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Any Automotive paint shop should be able to mix
                    the paint in single stage<br>
                    &gt; or base coat/ clear coat.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be
                    determined by the painterâ€™s<br>
                    &gt; preference.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Water base paints are sold to Professional
                    Spray Paint Shops only as far<br>
                    &gt; as I know. I have asked about water base paints
                    and they would not sell<br>
                    &gt; them to me.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; You really need a paint booth with correct
                    equipment to spray, dry and<br>
                    &gt; cure water base paint.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Ron Fraser<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    From: Tigers &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a><wbr>&gt;
                    On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp<br>
                    &gt; via Tigers<br>
                    &gt; Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:40 AM<br>
                    &gt; To: Tiger Club. Submission &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                    &gt; Subject: [Tigers] New paints<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and good
                    insurance is getting a complete<br>
                    &gt; repaint, my question is what is now the
                    preferred paint used today . My<br>
                    &gt; cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is
                    the number. Should I do base<br>
                    &gt; coat clear coat.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not
                    to up on the new products.<br>
                    &gt; Any ideas are appreciated. Beau<br>
                    &gt;<br>
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Steve and all

=20

                I found a possible modern paint code for #58 Midnight =
Blue =E2=80=93 BS364

No guarantees here =E2=80=93 there was a ? next to that number.

I=E2=80=99m hoping it just might get you close to the correct paint =
color.

=20

Ron Fraser

=20

=20

=20

From: steve wick <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2021 8:45 AM
To: Ron Fraser <[email-masked]>; 'Richard Bruner' =
<[email-masked]>
Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

=20

I'd be interested in hearing if someone comes up with a modern paint =
code. My car is supposed to be Midnight Blue, but was stripped and =
repainted red back in the mid '70's, so I don't have a spot where I can =
have the paint shop scan the old paint.

=20

Steve

=20

  _____ =20

From: Tigers <[email-masked] =
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:04 AM
To: 'Richard Bruner' <[email-masked] =
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints=20

=20

Richard

=20

The problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer =
translate to a paint mix.

Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes available but =
most do not.

=20

Ron Fraser

=20

From: Richard Bruner <[email-masked] =
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

=20

Ditzler code: 12633
Dulux enamel: 97365
Chrysler #: 75242838
Burger code: 404.1710
ICI: 2983

On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:
> Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C Ditzler # =
12633
>
>
>
> The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or =
translate
> 1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you want =
for
> Any Automotive paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single =
stage
> Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the =
painter=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s
> preference.
>
>
>
> Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as =
far
> as I know. I have asked about water base paints and they would not =
sell
> You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to spray, dry and
From: Tigers <[email-masked] =
> To: Tiger Club. Submission <[email-masked] =
> My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insurance is getting a =
complete
> repaint, my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . =
My
> cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do =
base
> coat clear coat.
>
> I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new =
products.
> Any ideas are appreciated. Beau

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for #58 Midnight Blue =E2=80=93 BS364<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>No guarantees here =E2=80=93 there was a ? next to =
that number.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99m hoping it =
just might get you close to the correct paint color.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> steve wick =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 01, =
2021 8:45 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; =
'Richard Bruner' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Lance =
Beauchamp' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] New =
paints<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I'd be interested in hearing if =
someone comes up with a modern paint code. My car is supposed to be =
Midnight Blue, but was stripped and repainted red back in the mid '70's, =
so I don't have a spot where I can have the paint shop scan the old =
paint.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'color:black'> Tigers &lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
et</a><span style=3D'color:black'>&gt; on behalf of Ron Fraser =
&lt;</span><a =
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style=3D'color:black'>&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 8:04 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Richard Bruner' &lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Lance Beauchamp' &lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&gt;; </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><span =
style=3D'color:black'> &lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] New =
paints</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>Richard<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You probably got those numbers from =
me.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>The problem is that at my paint shop those old =
numbers no longer translate to a paint mix.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and =
mixes available but most do not.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal><b>From:</b> Richard Bruner &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ron =
Fraser &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>C=
c:</b> 'Lance Beauchamp' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> Re: [Tigers] New paints<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal>This is =
what I had saved from somewhere:<br><br>Ditzler code: 12633<br>Dulux =
enamel: 97365<br>Chrysler #: 75242838<br>Burger code: 404.1710<br>ICI: =
2983<br><br><br>On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers =
wrote:<br>&gt; Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C =
Ditzler # 12633<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; The problem is that =
these old paint codes do not correspond or translate<br>&gt; well into =
the new paint codes of today.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 1st you need to see about =
getting the color match paint code you want for<br>&gt; your =
car.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; If someone here has the current paint code for #58, =
pass it along.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Any Automotive paint shop =
should be able to mix the paint in single stage<br>&gt; or base coat/ =
clear coat.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be =
determined by the painter=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s<br>&gt; =
preference.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Water base paints are sold =
to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as far<br>&gt; as I know. I have =
asked about water base paints and they would not sell<br>&gt; them to =
me.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; You really need a paint booth with correct equipment =
to spray, dry and<br>&gt; cure water base =
paint.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Ron =
Fraser<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>From: Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
et</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp<br>&gt; via Tigers<br>&gt; Sent: =
Monday, August 30, 2021 8:40 AM<br>&gt; To: Tiger Club. Submission =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>&g=
t; Subject: [Tigers] New paints<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; My 1964 =
Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insurance is getting a =
complete<br>&gt; repaint, my question is what is now the preferred paint =
used today . My<br>&gt; cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the =
number. Should I do base<br>&gt; coat clear coat.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I hear =
their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new =
products.<br>&gt; Any ideas are appreciated. Beau<br>&gt;<br>&gt; =
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For what  ever it is worth my blue =E2=80=9966 MK 1A with original paint =
code 58 was repainted with an AMC color code A-11514-D and matched =
extremely closely. Hope that helps and doesn=E2=80=99t obscure your =
quest!

> On Sep 1, 2021, at 5:50 PM, Ron Fraser <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> Steve and all
> =20
Blue =E2=80=93 BS364
color.
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2021 8:45 AM
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> Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <[email-masked] =
> Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <[email-masked] =
> Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes available =
but most do not.
> Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <[email-masked] =
12633
translate
> > 1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you =
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">For =
what &nbsp;ever it is worth my blue =E2=80=9966 MK 1A with original =
paint code 58 was repainted with an AMC color code A-11514-D and matched =
extremely closely. Hope that helps and doesn=E2=80=99t obscure your =
quest!<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Sep 1, 2021, at 5:50 PM, Ron Fraser &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-family: Helvetica-Bold; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Steve and =
all<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I found a possible modern paint code for #58 =
Midnight Blue =E2=80=93 BS364<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">No guarantees here =E2=80=93 there was =
a ? next to that number.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99m hoping it just might get you close to the correct =
paint color.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Ron Fraser<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; =
border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b><span=
 class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>steve wick &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, September 01, =
2021 8:45 AM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Ron Fraser &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; =
'Richard Bruner' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>'Lance Beauchamp' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Tigers] New paints<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">I'd be interested in hearing if someone comes up with a =
modern paint code. My car is supposed to be Midnight Blue, but was =
stripped and repainted red back in the mid '70's, so I don't have a spot =
where I can have the paint shop scan the old paint.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">Steve<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D"MsoNormal" =
align=3D"center" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-align: center;"><hr size=3D"2" =
width=3D"98%" align=3D"center" class=3D""></div><div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span =
style=3D"" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tigers &lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">&gt; on behalf of Ron Fraser &lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><span =
style=3D"" class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, August 30, 2021 =
8:04 AM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>'Richard Bruner' =
&lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><span style=3D"" class=3D"">&gt;<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>'Lance Beauchamp' =
&lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><span =
style=3D"" class=3D"">&gt;;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><span =
style=3D"" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>&lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><span =
style=3D"" class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Tigers] New =
paints</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Richard<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You probably got those numbers from me.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">The =
problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer translate =
to a paint mix.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes =
available but most do not.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Ron Fraser<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Richard Bruner &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, August 30, 2021 =
10:54 AM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Ron Fraser &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>'Lance Beauchamp' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Tigers] New paints<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">This is =
what I had saved from somewhere:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Ditzler =
code: 12633<br class=3D"">Dulux enamel: 97365<br class=3D"">Chrysler #: =
75242838<br class=3D"">Burger code: 404.1710<br class=3D"">ICI: 2983<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 =
am, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:<br class=3D"">&gt; Paint code 58 is =
Midnight Blue =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C Ditzler # 12633<br =
class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt; =
The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or =
translate<br class=3D"">&gt; well into the new paint codes of today.<br =
class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt; 1st you need to see about getting the =
color match paint code you want for<br class=3D"">&gt; your car.<br =
class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt; If someone here has the current paint =
code for #58, pass it along.<br class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt; Any Automotive paint shop should be =
able to mix the paint in single stage<br class=3D"">&gt; or base coat/ =
clear coat.<br class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt; Single stage or BC/CC =
will most likely be determined by the painter=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s<br =
class=3D"">&gt; preference.<br class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt; Water base paints are sold to =
Professional Spray Paint Shops only as far<br class=3D"">&gt; as I know. =
I have asked about water base paints and they would not sell<br =
class=3D"">&gt; them to me.<br class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt; You =
really need a paint booth with correct equipment to spray, dry and<br =
class=3D"">&gt; cure water base paint.<br class=3D"">&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt; Ron Fraser<br =
class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">From: Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Lance =
Beauchamp<br class=3D"">&gt; via Tigers<br class=3D"">&gt; Sent: Monday, =
August 30, 2021 8:40 AM<br class=3D"">&gt; To: Tiger Club. Submission =
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class=3D"">&gt; Subject: [Tigers] New paints<br class=3D"">&gt;<br =
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thanks to a mishap and good insurance is getting a complete<br =
class=3D"">&gt; repaint, my question is what is now the preferred paint =
used today . My<br class=3D"">&gt; cars color is midnight blue, I =
believe 58 is the number. Should I do base<br class=3D"">&gt; coat clear =
coat.<br class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt; I hear their is water based =
paints now, I'm not to up on the new products.<br class=3D"">&gt; Any =
ideas are appreciated. Beau<br class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt; =
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