Subject: Re: [Tigers] Girling brake master reservoir

From: Joe Brown <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 12:07:41 -0500

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So I wonder what happened to all of the Sunbeam stuff they had.  Do we have
another source for windshields?

Thanks,
Joe

On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 11:51 AM rsdslp--- via Tigers <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Moss also recently purchased XKs Unlimited and managed to screw up the
> Jaguar parts listing too. Seems like they are following the Microsoft model
> of buying out all potential competition then screwing up the product.
>
> On Sep 6, 2021 10:59 AM, Stu <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Agreed, I think Moss is only interested only in MG, Triumph, Morris, etc,
> the British Leyland related stuff.  And Miatas too, but that doesn't help
> us much.
>
> Stu
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 1:25 PM James Armstrong via Tigers <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Ron
>
> BTW: have the old Victoria British parts showed up yet on Moss's site?
> I've looked but haven't seen them
>
> Jim Armstrong
>
>
> In a message dated 9/6/2021 9:02:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [email-masked] writes:
>
>
> Brake Parts (classicsunbeam.com)
> <https://www.classicsunbeam.com/Brake-Parts_c5.htm>
>
>
>
> I see one listed here.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *James
> Armstrong via Tigers
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 05, 2021 1:24 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Girling brake master reservoir
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I just finished looking at:
>
> 1) Sunbeam Specialties (Rick has the genuine cap)
>
> 2) Bay US
>
> 3) Ebay.co.UK
>
> 4)Sunbeam Alpine West Midlands
>
>
>
>
>
> I can't find a source for a new *Girling* stock plastic brake fluid
> reservoir
>
>
>
> Any suggestions ?
>
>
>
> Jim Armstrong
>
> Mk 1A
>
> 382002083 LRXFE
>
> Code 86
>
> TAC # 0763
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">So I wonder what happened to all of the Sunbeam stuff they=
 had.=C2=A0 Do we have another source for windshields?<div><br></div><div>T=
hanks,</div><div>Joe</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 11:51 AM rsdslp--- via Tig=
ers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div =
dir=3D"auto">Moss also recently purchased XKs Unlimited and managed to scre=
w up the Jaguar parts listing too. Seems like they are following the Micros=
oft model of buying out all potential competition then screwing up the prod=
uct.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep =
6, 2021 10:59 AM, Stu &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockqu=
ote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-size:small">Agreed,=
 I think Moss is only interested only in MG, Triumph, Morris, etc,=C2=A0 th=
e British Leyland related stuff.=C2=A0 And Miatas too, but that doesn&#39;t=
 help us much.</div><div style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div style=3D"=
font-size:small">Stu</div></div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Sep 6, 20=
21 at 1:25 PM James Armstrong via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox=
.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:r=
gb(0,0,0)">
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0)">Thanks Ron</span></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0)">BTW: have the old Victoria British parts showed up yet on =
Moss&#39;s site? I&#39;ve looked but haven&#39;t seen them</span></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0)">Jim Armstrong</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0)">=C2=A0</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0)">=C2=A0</span></div>
</div>
In a message dated 9/6/2021 9:02:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> write=
s:
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:2px solid=
 blue">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p><a href=3D"https://www.classicsunbeam.com/Brake-Parts_c5.htm" shape=3D"r=
ect" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:blue">Brake Parts (classicsunbe=
am.com)</span></a></p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>I see one listed here.</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>Ron Fraser</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<p><strong>From:</strong> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox=
.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <strong>=
On Behalf Of </strong>James Armstrong via Tigers<br clear=3D"none"><strong>=
Sent:</strong> Sunday, September 05, 2021 1:24 PM<br clear=3D"none"><strong=
>To:</strong> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">ti=
[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"><strong>Subject:</strong> [Tigers=
] Girling brake master reservoir</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:s=
ans-serif;color:black">Hello,</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">I just=
 finished looking at:=C2=A0</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">1) Sun=
beam Specialties (Rick has the genuine cap)</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">2) Bay=
 US</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">3) <a =
href=3D"http://Ebay.co.UK" target=3D"_blank">Ebay.co.UK</a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">4)Sunb=
eam Alpine West Midlands</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0=
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0=
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">I can&=
#39;t find a source for a new <strong><em><u><span style=3D"font-family:san=
s-serif">Girling</span></u></em></strong> stock plastic brake fluid reservo=
ir=C2=A0</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0=
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">Any su=
ggestions ?</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;backgro=
und:white">=C2=A0</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p>Jim Armstrong</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Mk 1A</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>382002083 LRXFE</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Code 86</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>TAC # 0763</p>
</div>
</div>
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Joe Brown:/"Do we have another source for windshields?"/

This is a looming problem for not just Tigers, but the collector car 
world as a whole. Most people don't consider the need..., until they 
have the need. My understanding is windshields are made in batches..., 
as there is need. So, if the volume is not there to spark the 
manufacturer to  do a "run" availability dwindles. I mean who wants to 
manufacture a fragile, large product and then sit on it for years until 
YOU need it?

About 8 years ago I was looking for a windshield for my 1964 Studebaker 
Daytona. There was ONE vendor in the mid-west (I'm west coast) that had 
ONE windshield in stock. When I asked if they were going to get more the 
owner replied, "Not likely." That windshield would have cost me over 
$600+ delivered. In the end I bought a used windshield that had 
scratches and  bull's-eye but at least it wasn't broken. In fact to 
cover myself I bought two at $100 each. I then spent 10 hours making a 
cradle to securely fit both windshields in my son's Honda Civic as it 
was a 400 mile trip from where they were. And as it was these were 
station wagon windshields that the seller cut a 1/2" section out to fit 
the sedan.  So, yea, sometimes it comes to measures such as that.

In this day and age of lasers and CNC you would think that windshield 
reproduction might be more practical. Or that modern plastics could 
replace glass as a means of making windshields available and reasonably 
priced. I saw on Wheeler Dealer how they cut a windshield for a Saab out 
of a late model Impala windshield. But the wraparound nature of the 
Tiger windshield negates that route. I didn't mean to ramble but least 
anyone be taken by surprise somewhere down the road ... . Hopefully not 
but the way businesses are changing you never know.
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    <p>Joe Brown:<i> "Do we have another source for windshields?"</i></p>
    <p>This is a looming problem for not just Tigers, but the collector
      car world as a whole. Most people don't consider the need...,
      until they have the need. My understanding is windshields are made
      in batches..., as there is need. So, if the volume is not there to
      spark the manufacturer to  do a "run" availability dwindles. I
      mean who wants to manufacture a fragile, large product and then
      sit on it for years until YOU need it? <br>
    </p>
    <p> About 8 years ago I was looking for a windshield for my 1964
      Studebaker Daytona. There was ONE vendor in the mid-west (I'm west
      coast) that had ONE windshield in stock. When I asked if they were
      going to get more the owner replied, "Not likely." That windshield
      would have cost me over $600+ delivered. In the end I bought a
      used windshield that had scratches and  bull's-eye but at least it
      wasn't broken. In fact to cover myself I bought two at $100 each.
      I then spent 10 hours making a cradle to securely fit both
      windshields in my son's Honda Civic as it was a 400 mile trip from
      where they were. And as it was these were station wagon
      windshields that the seller cut a 1/2" section out to fit the
      sedan.  So, yea, sometimes it comes to measures such as that.</p>
    <p>In this day and age of lasers and CNC you would think that
      windshield reproduction might be more practical. Or that modern
      plastics could replace glass as a means of making windshields
      available and reasonably priced. I saw on Wheeler Dealer how they
      cut a windshield for a Saab out of a late model Impala windshield.
      But the wraparound nature of the Tiger windshield negates that
      route. I didn't mean to ramble but least anyone be taken by
      surprise somewhere down the road ... . Hopefully not but the way
      businesses are changing you never know.<br>
      <i></i></p>
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FWIW, Moss did contact Sunbeam Specialties to see if they would buy the =
VB Sunbeam stuff, and they declined.  Not sure if anything happened =
after that.  But, I really don=E2=80=99t care because VB stuff has =
proven to be bad time and time again.  So I hope it doesn=E2=80=99t end =
up with our better suppliers.

On the windshield, I bought a new windshield about 24 years ago.  I =
still have it on the car. But it did not fit the same.  The glass was a =
tad thinner than original.  I could put the original on and everything =
would fit, including the rubber and the stainless steel.  But when I put =
on the new one, it did not sit the same and the stainless would not fit =
right.  I ended up having to trim the stainless to fit.  Believe me, I =
went through it many times, back and forth, trying to solve it =
differently.  Fortunately it was =E2=80=9Conly=E2=80=9D my Alpine. =20

Just something to think about when looking for replacement glass.  My =
original Alpine glass was scratched and slightly delaminating.  The =
=E2=80=9Cnew=E2=80=9D glass is still fine.  But, I don=E2=80=99t know =
that I would file down any stainless at this point.  On the other hand, =
it seems beggars can=E2=80=99t be choosers.

> On Sep 8, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Tom Witt via Tigers =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Joe Brown: "Do we have another source for windshields?"
>=20
> This is a looming problem for not just Tigers, but the collector car =
world as a whole. Most people don't consider the need..., until they =
have the need. My understanding is windshields are made in batches..., =
as there is need. So, if the volume is not there to spark the =
manufacturer to  do a "run" availability dwindles. I mean who wants to =
manufacture a fragile, large product and then sit on it for years until =
YOU need it?=20
>=20
> About 8 years ago I was looking for a windshield for my 1964 =
Studebaker Daytona. There was ONE vendor in the mid-west (I'm west =
coast) that had ONE windshield in stock. When I asked if they were going =
to get more the owner replied, "Not likely." That windshield would have =
cost me over $600+ delivered. In the end I bought a used windshield that =
had scratches and  bull's-eye but at least it wasn't broken. In fact to =
cover myself I bought two at $100 each. I then spent 10 hours making a =
cradle to securely fit both windshields in my son's Honda Civic as it =
was a 400 mile trip from where they were. And as it was these were =
station wagon windshields that the seller cut a 1/2" section out to fit =
the sedan.  So, yea, sometimes it comes to measures such as that.
>=20
> In this day and age of lasers and CNC you would think that windshield =
reproduction might be more practical. Or that modern plastics could =
replace glass as a means of making windshields available and reasonably =
priced. I saw on Wheeler Dealer how they cut a windshield for a Saab out =
of a late model Impala windshield. But the wraparound nature of the =
Tiger windshield negates that route. I didn't mean to ramble but least =
anyone be taken by surprise somewhere down the road ... . Hopefully not =
but the way businesses are changing you never know.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">FWIW,=
 Moss did contact Sunbeam Specialties to see if they would buy the VB =
Sunbeam stuff, and they declined. &nbsp;Not sure if anything happened =
after that. &nbsp;But, I really don=E2=80=99t care because VB stuff has =
proven to be bad time and time again. &nbsp;So I hope it doesn=E2=80=99t =
end up with our better suppliers.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 class=3D"">On the windshield, I bought a new windshield about 24 years =
ago. &nbsp;I still have it on the car. But it did not fit the same. =
&nbsp;The glass was a tad thinner than original. &nbsp;I could put the =
original on and everything would fit, including the rubber and the =
stainless steel. &nbsp;But when I put on the new one, it did not sit the =
same and the stainless would not fit right. &nbsp;I ended up having to =
trim the stainless to fit. &nbsp;Believe me, I went through it many =
times, back and forth, trying to solve it differently. &nbsp;Fortunately =
it was =E2=80=9Conly=E2=80=9D my Alpine. &nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Just something to think about when =
looking for replacement glass. &nbsp;My original Alpine glass was =
scratched and slightly delaminating. &nbsp;The =E2=80=9Cnew=E2=80=9D =
glass is still fine. &nbsp;But, I don=E2=80=99t know that I would file =
down any stainless at this point. &nbsp;On the other hand, it seems =
beggars can=E2=80=99t be choosers.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Sep =
8, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Tom Witt via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">
 =20
    <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3DUTF-8" class=3D"">
 =20
  <div class=3D""><p class=3D"">Joe Brown:<i class=3D""> "Do we have =
another source for windshields?"</i></p><p class=3D"">This is a looming =
problem for not just Tigers, but the collector
      car world as a whole. Most people don't consider the need...,
      until they have the need. My understanding is windshields are made
      in batches..., as there is need. So, if the volume is not there to
      spark the manufacturer to&nbsp; do a "run" availability dwindles. =
I
      mean who wants to manufacture a fragile, large product and then
      sit on it for years until YOU need it? <br class=3D"">
    </p><p class=3D""> About 8 years ago I was looking for a windshield =
for my 1964
      Studebaker Daytona. There was ONE vendor in the mid-west (I'm west
      coast) that had ONE windshield in stock. When I asked if they were
      going to get more the owner replied, "Not likely." That windshield
      would have cost me over $600+ delivered. In the end I bought a
      used windshield that had scratches and&nbsp; bull's-eye but at =
least it
      wasn't broken. In fact to cover myself I bought two at $100 each.
      I then spent 10 hours making a cradle to securely fit both
      windshields in my son's Honda Civic as it was a 400 mile trip from
      where they were. And as it was these were station wagon
      windshields that the seller cut a 1/2" section out to fit the
      sedan.&nbsp; So, yea, sometimes it comes to measures such as =
that.</p><p class=3D"">In this day and age of lasers and CNC you would =
think that
      windshield reproduction might be more practical. Or that modern
      plastics could replace glass as a means of making windshields
      available and reasonably priced. I saw on Wheeler Dealer how they
      cut a windshield for a Saab out of a late model Impala windshield.
      But the wraparound nature of the Tiger windshield negates that
      route. I didn't mean to ramble but least anyone be taken by
      surprise somewhere down the road ... . Hopefully not but the way
      businesses are changing you never know.<br class=3D"">
      <i class=3D""></i></p>
    <br class=3D"">
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From: Will Seay via Tigers <[email-masked]>
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I know this isn't *just* about windshields but these guys claim to have
windshields in stock and ready to ship:
Rootesparts <http://www.rootesparts.com/id103.htm>

Will - 382001570
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On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 6:58 PM Jay <[email-masked]> wrote:

> FWIW, Moss did contact Sunbeam Specialties to see if they would buy the V=
B
> Sunbeam stuff, and they declined.  Not sure if anything happened after
> that.  But, I really don=E2=80=99t care because VB stuff has proven to be=
 bad time
> and time again.  So I hope it doesn=E2=80=99t end up with our better supp=
liers.
>
> On the windshield, I bought a new windshield about 24 years ago.  I still
> have it on the car. But it did not fit the same.  The glass was a tad
> thinner than original.  I could put the original on and everything would
> fit, including the rubber and the stainless steel.  But when I put on the
> new one, it did not sit the same and the stainless would not fit right.  =
I
> ended up having to trim the stainless to fit.  Believe me, I went through
> it many times, back and forth, trying to solve it differently.  Fortunate=
ly
> it was =E2=80=9Conly=E2=80=9D my Alpine.
>
> Just something to think about when looking for replacement glass.  My
> original Alpine glass was scratched and slightly delaminating.  The =E2=
=80=9Cnew=E2=80=9D
> glass is still fine.  But, I don=E2=80=99t know that I would file down an=
y
> stainless at this point.  On the other hand, it seems beggars can=E2=80=
=99t be
> choosers.
>
>
>
> On Sep 8, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Tom Witt via Tigers <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> Joe Brown:* "Do we have another source for windshields?"*
>
> This is a looming problem for not just Tigers, but the collector car worl=
d
> as a whole. Most people don't consider the need..., until they have the
> need. My understanding is windshields are made in batches..., as there is
> need. So, if the volume is not there to spark the manufacturer to  do a
> "run" availability dwindles. I mean who wants to manufacture a fragile,
> large product and then sit on it for years until YOU need it?
>
> Daytona. There was ONE vendor in the mid-west (I'm west coast) that had O=
NE
> windshield in stock. When I asked if they were going to get more the owne=
r
> replied, "Not likely." That windshield would have cost me over $600+
> delivered. In the end I bought a used windshield that had scratches and
> bull's-eye but at least it wasn't broken. In fact to cover myself I bough=
t
> two at $100 each. I then spent 10 hours making a cradle to securely fit
> both windshields in my son's Honda Civic as it was a 400 mile trip from
> where they were. And as it was these were station wagon windshields that
> the seller cut a 1/2" section out to fit the sedan.  So, yea, sometimes i=
t
> comes to measures such as that.
>
> reproduction might be more practical. Or that modern plastics could repla=
ce
> glass as a means of making windshields available and reasonably priced. I
> saw on Wheeler Dealer how they cut a windshield for a Saab out of a late
> model Impala windshield. But the wraparound nature of the Tiger windshiel=
d
> negates that route. I didn't mean to ramble but least anyone be taken by
> surprise somewhere down the road ... . Hopefully not but the way business=
es
> are changing you never know.
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I k=
now this isn&#39;t <i>just</i> about windshields but these guys claim to ha=
ve windshields in stock and ready to ship:=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"font-size:small"><a href=3D"http://www.rootesparts.com/id1=
03.htm">Rootesparts</a><br clear=3D"all"></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_s=
ignature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Will - 382001=
570 <br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Tigers@e=
mbarqmail.com</a></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 6:58 PM Jay &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=
=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">FWIW, Moss did contact Sunbeam Specialties =
to see if they would buy the VB Sunbeam stuff, and they declined.=C2=A0 Not=
 sure if anything happened after that.=C2=A0 But, I really don=E2=80=99t ca=
re because VB stuff has proven to be bad time and time again.=C2=A0 So I ho=
pe it doesn=E2=80=99t end up with our better suppliers.<div><br></div><div>=
On the windshield, I bought a new windshield about 24 years ago.=C2=A0 I st=
ill have it on the car. But it did not fit the same.=C2=A0 The glass was a =
tad thinner than original.=C2=A0 I could put the original on and everything=
 would fit, including the rubber and the stainless steel.=C2=A0 But when I =
put on the new one, it did not sit the same and the stainless would not fit=
 right.=C2=A0 I ended up having to trim the stainless to fit.=C2=A0 Believe=
 me, I went through it many times, back and forth, trying to solve it diffe=
rently.=C2=A0 Fortunately it was =E2=80=9Conly=E2=80=9D my Alpine. =C2=A0</=
div><div><br></div><div>Just something to think about when looking for repl=
acement glass.=C2=A0 My original Alpine glass was scratched and slightly de=
laminating.=C2=A0 The =E2=80=9Cnew=E2=80=9D glass is still fine.=C2=A0 But,=
 I don=E2=80=99t know that I would file down any stainless at this point.=
=C2=A0 On the other hand, it seems beggars can=E2=80=99t be choosers.</div>=
<div><br></div><div><br><div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Sep=
 8, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Tom Witt via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br=
><div>
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div><p>Joe Brown:<i> &quot;Do we have another source for windshields?&qu=
ot;</i></p><p>This is a looming problem for not just Tigers, but the collec=
tor
      car world as a whole. Most people don&#39;t consider the need...,
      until they have the need. My understanding is windshields are made
      in batches..., as there is need. So, if the volume is not there to
      spark the manufacturer to=C2=A0 do a &quot;run&quot; availability dwi=
ndles. I
      mean who wants to manufacture a fragile, large product and then
      sit on it for years until YOU need it? <br>
    </p><p> About 8 years ago I was looking for a windshield for my 1964
      Studebaker Daytona. There was ONE vendor in the mid-west (I&#39;m wes=
t
      coast) that had ONE windshield in stock. When I asked if they were
      going to get more the owner replied, &quot;Not likely.&quot; That win=
dshield
      would have cost me over $600+ delivered. In the end I bought a
      used windshield that had scratches and=C2=A0 bull&#39;s-eye but at le=
ast it
      wasn&#39;t broken. In fact to cover myself I bought two at $100 each.
      I then spent 10 hours making a cradle to securely fit both
      windshields in my son&#39;s Honda Civic as it was a 400 mile trip fro=
m
      where they were. And as it was these were station wagon
      windshields that the seller cut a 1/2&quot; section out to fit the
      sedan.=C2=A0 So, yea, sometimes it comes to measures such as that.</p=
      route. I didn&#39;t mean to ramble but least anyone be taken by

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