Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

From: Allan Ballard via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 09:46:55 -0400

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I put base coat/clear coat on my Tiger a decade ago.

It has held up well out in the weather in cross country and local driving an=
d if curious it can be seen at the upcoming SUNI meeting in Independence, Mo=
.

However I=E2=80=99ve come to feel it=E2=80=99s shinier than my preference fo=
r a stock, =E2=80=9Cfactory look.=E2=80=9D

So ... just sayin that single stage paint is something to consider.

I=E2=80=99ll definitely look into it should the car ever get a respray.

It=E2=80=99s not widely available but it *is* available.

Just my $0.02 worth :)

-Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger
Series 1 Alpine (v6)

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> On Aug 30, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <[email-masked]=
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> My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap  and good insurance is getting a complete=
 repaint,  my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . My ca=
rs color is midnight blue,  I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base coa=
t clear coat. =20
> I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new products.=
  Any ideas are appreciated. Beau=20
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> On Aug 30, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <[email-masked]=
.net> wrote:
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> My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap  and good insurance is getting a complete=
 repaint,  my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . My ca=
rs color is midnight blue,  I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base coa=
t clear coat. =20
> I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new products.=
  Any ideas are appreciated. Beau=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 2=
55, 255, 0);">I put base coat/clear coat on my Tiger a decade ago.</span><di=
v><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div=
><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">It has held u=
p well out in the weather in cross country and local driving and if curious i=
t can be seen at the upcoming SUNI meeting in Independence, Mo.</span></div>=
<div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></=
div><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">However I=
=E2=80=99ve come to feel it=E2=80=99s shinier than my preference for a stock=
, =E2=80=9Cfactory look.=E2=80=9D</span></div><div><span style=3D"background=
-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"backgr=
ound-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">So ... just sayin that single stage pai=
nt is something to consider.</span></div><div><span style=3D"background-colo=
r: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"background-=
color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I=E2=80=99ll definitely look into it should t=
he car ever get a respray.</span></div><div><span style=3D"background-color:=
 rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"background-co=
lor: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">It=E2=80=99s not widely available but it *is* a=
vailable.</span></div><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 2=
55, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 25=
5, 255, 0);">Just my $0.02 worth :)</span></div><div><span style=3D"backgrou=
nd-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"back=
ground-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">-Allan Ballard</span></div><div><span=
 style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Mk1a Tiger</span></div>=
<div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Series 1 Alpi=
ne (v6)</span></div><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255=
, 0);"><br><br></span><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=
=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Sent from my iPhone</span></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);=
"><br></span><font color=3D"#000000"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0=
); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">On Aug 30, 2021, at 8:39 AM, L=
ance Beauchamp via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tiger=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></span></font></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"auto"><font color=3D"#000000"><span styl=
e=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">M=
y 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap&nbsp; and good insurance is getting a comple=
te repaint,&nbsp; my question is what is now the preferred paint used today .=
 My cars color is midnight blue,&nbsp; I believe 58 is the number. Should I d=
o base coat clear coat.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></font><div dir=3D"auto"><font col=
or=3D"#000000"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: r=
gba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to u=
p on the new products.&nbsp; Any ideas are appreciated. Beau&nbsp;</span></f=
ont></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr=
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.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"auto">My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap&nb=
sp; and good insurance is getting a complete repaint,&nbsp; my question is w=
hat is now the preferred paint used today . My cars color is midnight blue,&=
nbsp; I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base coat clear coat.&nbsp;&nb=
sp;<div dir=3D"auto">I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up o=
n the new products.&nbsp; Any ideas are appreciated. Beau&nbsp;</div></div>
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From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 10:32:28 -0400

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Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue =E2=80=93 Ditzler # 12633

=20

The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or translate =
well into the new paint codes of today.

1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you want =
for your car.

If someone here has the current paint code for #58, pass it along.

=20

Any Automotive paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single =
stage or base coat/ clear coat.

Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the =
painter=E2=80=99s preference.

=20

Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as far =
as I know.  I have asked about water base paints and they would not sell =
them to me.

You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to spray, dry and =
cure water base paint.

=20

Ron Fraser

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From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Lance =
Beauchamp via Tigers
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:40 AM
To: Tiger Club. Submission <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Tigers] New paints

=20

My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap  and good insurance is getting a =
complete repaint,  my question is what is now the preferred paint used =
today . My cars color is midnight blue,  I believe 58 is the number. =
Should I do base coat clear coat. =20

I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new =
products.  Any ideas are appreciated. Beau=20

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class=3DMsoNormal>Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue =E2=80=93 Ditzler # =
12633<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The problem is that these old paint codes do not =
correspond or translate well into the new paint codes of =
today.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>1<sup>st</sup> you need to see =
about getting the color match paint code you want for your =
car.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If someone here has the current =
paint code for #58, pass it along.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Any =
Automotive paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single stage or =
base coat/ clear coat.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Single stage =
or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the painter=E2=80=99s =
preference.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint =
Shops only as far as I know.=C2=A0 I have asked about water base paints =
and they would not sell them to me.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>You really need a paint booth with correct equipment =
to spray, dry and cure water base paint.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lance =
Beauchamp via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 8:40 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger Club. Submission =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] New =
paints<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap&nbsp; and good =
insurance is getting a complete repaint,&nbsp; my question is what is =
now the preferred paint used today . My cars color is midnight =
blue,&nbsp; I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base coat clear =
coat.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I hear their =
is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new products.&nbsp; Any =
ideas are appreciated. =
Beau&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>
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From: Richard Bruner via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 09:53:44 -0500

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This is what I had saved from somewhere:

Ditzler code: 12633
Dulux enamel: 97365
Chrysler #: 75242838
Burger code:
404.1710
ICI: 2983

On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am,
Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:
> Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue –
Ditzler # 12633
> The problem is
that these old paint codes do not correspond or translate
> 1st you need to see
about getting the color match paint code you want for
> your
car.
> Any Automotive
paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single stage
> or
base coat/ clear coat.
>
> Single stage or BC/CC will most
likely be determined by the painter’s
> preference.
>
>
>
> Water base paints are sold to Professional
Spray Paint Shops only as far
> as I know. I have asked about
water base paints and they would not sell
> them to me.
>
> You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to
spray, dry and
> Ron Fraser
From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Lance
Beauchamp
> via Tigers
> My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and
good insurance is getting a complete
> repaint, my question is
what is now the preferred paint used today . My
> cars color is
midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base
> coat
clear coat.
>
> I hear their is water based paints now,
I'm not to up on the new products.
> Any ideas are appreciated.
Beau
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This is what I had saved from somewhere:<br /><br />Ditzler code: 12633<br
/>Dulux enamel: 97365<br />Chrysler #: 75242838<br />Burger code:
404.1710<br />ICI: 2983<br /><br /><br />On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am,
Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:<br />&gt; Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue –
Ditzler # 12633<br />&gt;<br />&gt;<br />&gt;<br />&gt; The problem is
that these old paint codes do not correspond or translate<br />&gt; well
into the new paint codes of today.<br />&gt;<br />&gt; 1st you need to see
about getting the color match paint code you want for<br />&gt; your
car.<br />&gt;<br />&gt; If someone here has the current paint code for
#58, pass it along.<br />&gt;<br />&gt;<br />&gt;<br />&gt; Any Automotive
paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single stage<br />&gt; or
base coat/ clear coat.<br />&gt;<br />&gt; Single stage or BC/CC will most
likely be determined by the painter’s<br />&gt; preference.<br />&gt;<br
/>&gt;<br />&gt;<br />&gt; Water base paints are sold to Professional
Spray Paint Shops only as far<br />&gt; as I know. I have asked about
water base paints and they would not sell<br />&gt; them to me.<br
/>&gt;<br />&gt; You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to
spray, dry and<br />&gt; cure water base paint.<br />&gt;<br />&gt;<br
/>&gt;<br />&gt; Ron Fraser<br />&gt;<br />&gt;<br />&gt;<br />&gt;<br
/>From: Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt; On Behalf Of Lance
Beauchamp<br />&gt; via Tigers<br />&gt; Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021
8:40 AM<br />&gt; To: Tiger Club. Submission
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br />&gt; Subject: [Tigers] New paints<br
/>&gt;<br />&gt;<br />&gt;<br />&gt; My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and
good insurance is getting a complete<br />&gt; repaint, my question is
what is now the preferred paint used today . My<br />&gt; cars color is
midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base<br />&gt; coat
clear coat.<br />&gt;<br />&gt; I hear their is water based paints now,
I'm not to up on the new products.<br />&gt; Any ideas are appreciated.
Beau<br />&gt;<br />&gt;
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From: "Ron Fraser" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 11:04:47 -0400

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Richard

                You probably got those numbers from me.

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The problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer =
translate to a paint mix.

Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes available but =
most do not.

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Ron Fraser

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From: Richard Bruner <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM
To: Ron Fraser <[email-masked]>
Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

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Ditzler code: 12633
Dulux enamel: 97365
Chrysler #: 75242838
Burger code: 404.1710
ICI: 2983

On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:
> Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C Ditzler # =
12633
>
>
>
> The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or =
translate
> 1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you want =
for
> your car.
stage
> or base coat/ clear coat.
>
painter=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s
> preference.
>
>
>
> Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as =
far
> as I know. I have asked about water base paints and they would not =
sell
> them to me.
>
> You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to spray, dry and
> cure water base paint.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
>
From: Tigers <[email-masked] =
> To: Tiger Club. Submission <[email-masked] =
complete
> repaint, my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . =
My
> cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do =
base
> coat clear coat.
products.
> Any ideas are appreciated. Beau
>

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class=3DMsoNormal>Richard<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 You probably got those numbers from =
me.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers =
no longer translate to a paint mix.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and =
mixes available but most do not.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Richard Bruner =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 =
10:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Lance Beauchamp' =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;; [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [Tigers] New paints<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>This is what =
I had saved from somewhere:<br><br>Ditzler code: 12633<br>Dulux enamel: =
97365<br>Chrysler #: 75242838<br>Burger code: 404.1710<br>ICI: =
2983<br><br><br>On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers =
wrote:<br>&gt; Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C =
Ditzler # 12633<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; The problem is that =
these old paint codes do not correspond or translate<br>&gt; well into =
the new paint codes of today.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 1st you need to see about =
getting the color match paint code you want for<br>&gt; your =
car.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; If someone here has the current paint code for #58, =
pass it along.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Any Automotive paint shop =
should be able to mix the paint in single stage<br>&gt; or base coat/ =
clear coat.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be =
determined by the painter=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s<br>&gt; =
preference.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Water base paints are sold =
to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as far<br>&gt; as I know. I have =
asked about water base paints and they would not sell<br>&gt; them to =
me.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; You really need a paint booth with correct equipment =
to spray, dry and<br>&gt; cure water base =
paint.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Ron =
Fraser<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>From: Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
et</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp<br>&gt; via Tigers<br>&gt; Sent: =
Monday, August 30, 2021 8:40 AM<br>&gt; To: Tiger Club. Submission =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>&g=
t; Subject: [Tigers] New paints<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; My 1964 =
Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insurance is getting a =
complete<br>&gt; repaint, my question is what is now the preferred paint =
used today . My<br>&gt; cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the =
number. Should I do base<br>&gt; coat clear coat.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I hear =
their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new =
products.<br>&gt; Any ideas are appreciated. Beau<br>&gt;<br>&gt; =
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Single stage is harder for most painters to lay down (easier to hide stuff =
with two stage) and also requires much more work if there are any correctio=
ns needed down the road. Two stage also results in a harder surface. But, n=
o doubt, single stage looks right on our cars. I went with two stage, no re=
grets.Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Fraser <[email-masked]>
To: 'Richard Bruner' <[email-masked]>
Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Sent: Mon, Aug 30, 2021 8:08 am
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

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Richard

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
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 =C2=A0

The problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer translate =
to a paint mix.

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t do not.

 =C2=A0

Ron Fraser

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

Ditzler code: 12633
Dulux enamel: 97365
Chrysler #: 75242838
Burger code: 404.1710
ICI: 2983

On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:
> Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C Ditzler # 12633
>
>
>
> The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or translate
> 1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you want for
> your car.
>
> Any Automotive paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single stage
> Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the painter=C3=A2=
=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s
> preference.
>
>
>
> Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as far
> as I know. I have asked about water base paints and they would not sell
> them to me.
>
From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp
> My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insurance is getting a complete
> repaint, my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . My
> cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base
> coat clear coat.
>
> I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new products=
.

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color:black;">Single stage is harder for most painters to lay down (easier =
to hide stuff with two stage) and also requires much more work if there are=
 any corrections needed down the road. Two stage also results in a harder s=
urface. But, no doubt, single stage looks right on our cars. I went with tw=
o stage, no regrets.</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-se=
rif;font-size:10pt;color:black;">Mike<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----=
<br>From: Ron Fraser &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>To: 'Richard Bruner' &=
lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' &lt;blance598@gmail.=
com&gt;; [email-masked]<br>Sent: Mon, Aug 30, 2021 8:08 am<br>Subjec=
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><p class=3D"yiv6795521281MsoNormal">Some paint shops may have those old pa=
int codes and mixes available but most do not.</p><p class=3D"yiv6795521281=
MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv6795521281MsoNormal">Ron Fraser</p><p =
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521505470" id=3D"yiv6795521281yqt23221"><p class=3D"yiv6795521281MsoNormal"=
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ne"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:<=
/b> Ron Fraser &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> 'L=
ance Beauchamp' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; [email-masked]<br clear=
=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] New paints</p><p class=3D"yiv6795521=
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30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Paint=
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hop should be able to mix the paint in single stage<br clear=3D"none">&gt; =
or base coat/ clear coat.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Sin=
gle stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the painter=C3=A2=E2=
=82=AC=E2=84=A2s<br clear=3D"none">&gt; preference.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<=
br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Water =
base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as far<br clear=
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ear=3D"none">&gt; You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to s=
pray, dry and<br clear=3D"none">&gt; cure water base paint.<br clear=3D"non=
e">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt=
; Ron Fraser<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none=
">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">From: Tigers &lt;<a rel=3D"=
nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers-bounc=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
am.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp<=
br clear=3D"none">&gt; via Tigers<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Sent: Monday, Augu=
st 30, 2021 8:40 AM<br clear=3D"none">&gt; To: Tiger Club. Submission &lt;<=
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[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Subject: [Tigers] New=
 paints<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt=
;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insuranc=
e is getting a complete<br clear=3D"none">&gt; repaint, my question is what=
 is now the preferred paint used today . My<br clear=3D"none">&gt; cars col=
or is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; coat clear coat.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&g=
t; I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new product=
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Mike

                You are correct. =20

In my experience with paints, I found single stage to be like painting =
enamel.

Base coat is like painting lacquer =E2=80=93 color has a flat sheen when =
painted

Clear coat is like painting enamel =E2=80=93 clear makes the color pop =
=E2=80=93 clear uses a catalyst so it cures nice and hard =20

=20

Ron Fraser

=20

From: Michael Wood <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 11:48 AM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

=20

Single stage is harder for most painters to lay down (easier to hide =
stuff with two stage) and also requires much more work if there are any =
corrections needed down the road. Two stage also results in a harder =
surface. But, no doubt, single stage looks right on our cars. I went =
with two stage, no regrets.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
To: 'Richard Bruner' <[email-masked] =
Sent: Mon, Aug 30, 2021 8:08 am
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

Richard

=20

=20

Ron Fraser

=20

From: Richard Bruner <[email-masked] =
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints

=20

Ditzler code: 12633
Dulux enamel: 97365
Chrysler #: 75242838
Burger code: 404.1710
ICI: 2983

12633
translate
for
stage
far
sell
complete
My
base
products.

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class=3DMsoNormal>Mike<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 You are correct.=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>In my experience with paints, I =
found single stage to be like painting enamel.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Base coat is like painting lacquer =E2=80=93 color has =
a flat sheen when painted<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Clear coat =
is like painting enamel =E2=80=93 clear makes the color pop =E2=80=93 =
clear uses a catalyst so it cures nice and hard =C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Michael Wood &lt;[email-masked]&gt; =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 11:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]; [email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]; [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Tigers] New paints<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Sin=
gle stage is harder for most painters to lay down (easier to hide stuff =
with two stage) and also requires much more work if there are any =
corrections needed down the road. Two stage also results in a harder =
surface. But, no doubt, single stage looks right on our cars. I went =
with two stage, no regrets.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Mik=
e<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Ron Fraser &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: =
'Richard Bruner' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=
Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>Sent: =
Mon, Aug 30, 2021 8:08 am<br>Subject: Re: [Tigers] New =
paints<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=3Dyiv6795521281><div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ric=
hard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; You probably got those numbers from =
me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
 problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer translate =
to a paint mix.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Som=
e paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes available but =
most do not.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ron=
 Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv6795521281yqt23221><p =
class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fro=
m:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Richard Bruner &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ron =
Fraser &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>C=
c:</b> 'Lance Beauchamp' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> Re: [Tigers] New paints<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Thi=
s is what I had saved from somewhere:<br><br>Ditzler code: =
12633<br>Dulux enamel: 97365<br>Chrysler #: 75242838<br>Burger code: =
404.1710<br>ICI: 2983<br><br><br>On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron =
Fraser via Tigers wrote:<br>&gt; Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue =
=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C Ditzler # 12633<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; =
The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or =
translate<br>&gt; well into the new paint codes of =
today.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 1st you need to see about getting the color match =
paint code you want for<br>&gt; your car.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; If someone =
here has the current paint code for #58, pass it =
along.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Any Automotive paint shop should =
be able to mix the paint in single stage<br>&gt; or base coat/ clear =
coat.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be =
determined by the painter=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s<br>&gt; =
preference.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Water base paints are sold =
to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as far<br>&gt; as I know. I have =
asked about water base paints and they would not sell<br>&gt; them to =
me.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; You really need a paint booth with correct equipment =
to spray, dry and<br>&gt; cure water base =
paint.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Ron =
Fraser<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>From: Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; On Behalf Of =
Lance Beauchamp<br>&gt; via Tigers<br>&gt; Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 =
8:40 AM<br>&gt; To: Tiger Club. Submission &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>&gt; Subject: =
[Tigers] New paints<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; My 1964 Tiger thanks =
to a mishap and good insurance is getting a complete<br>&gt; repaint, my =
question is what is now the preferred paint used today . My<br>&gt; cars =
color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do =
base<br>&gt; coat clear coat.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I hear their is water =
based paints now, I'm not to up on the new products.<br>&gt; Any ideas =
are appreciated. Beau<br>&gt;<br>&gt; =
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