Subject: Re: [Tigers] Plug Wires

From: Donald Antilla via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:49:43 -0400

--===============7031767259850299058==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

--Apple-Mail-0C856DB0-8F29-4434-9B32-9E4CD6C3878B
	charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Cylinder 5 is at the front and 8 back toward the firewall.=20
Please remember- if you updated your camshaft to the modern era firing order=
 this results in a different firing sequence. It also results in the origina=
l plug wire lengths to the distributor cap different and the lengths will no=
t be optimum.=20
When I restored my Griffith with the 347 striker, I went to Taylor Vertex an=
d bought a set of high temp wires and specified 12 extra inches on all white=
s. I had them install the spark plug bolts and I custom fit the other end wh=
ile making sure the wires were optimally routed. Then I terminated the wires=
 myself at the distributor cap.=20

=46rom Don's iPhone 203-592-8427
Or 203-264-8301 home

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 12:23 PM, Will Seay <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> I recently decided to replace my plug wires with a new set that has the co=
rrect OEM markings.  As simple as this process sounds, it turned into a grea=
t adventure for me.  I won't relate all the details of the adventure but the=
re was a question that arose that I hope someone can answer for me.  The sho=
p manual contains a drawing that shows the correct routing for the plug wire=
s.  On each side of the engine the wires go through a couple of wire guides t=
hat provide the correct spacing and routing for the wires.  On the right sid=
e the wires are routed in the order 1-2-3-4.  On the left side the order is 7=
-5-6-8.  The text in the manual explains that the reason for this order is t=
o provide separation between the number 7 and 8 wires.  Seven and 8 are adja=
cent in the firing order and routing their wires in close parallel as they w=
ould be if the routing order were the expected 5-6-7-8, might lead to induce=
d current between 7 and 8 resulting in misfire.  I routed my wires according=
 to the advice of the shop manual.  My question is, was the original (factor=
y) order 7-5-6-8 or was it 5-6-7-8?
>=20
>=20
> Will - 382001570=20
> [email-masked]
> _______________________________________________
>=20
> [email-masked]
>=20
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archiv=
e
>=20
> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/fast427@sbcgloba=
l.net
>=20
>=20

--Apple-Mail-0C856DB0-8F29-4434-9B32-9E4CD6C3878B
	charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Cylinder 5 is at the front and 8 back towar=
d the firewall.&nbsp;<div>Please remember- if you updated your camshaft to t=
he modern era firing order this results in a different firing sequence. It a=
lso results in the original plug wire lengths to the distributor cap differe=
nt and the lengths will not be optimum.&nbsp;</div><div>When I restored my G=
riffith with the 347 striker, I went to Taylor Vertex and bought a set of hi=
gh temp wires and specified 12 extra inches on all whites. I had them instal=
l the spark plug bolts and I custom fit the other end while making sure the w=
ires were optimally routed. Then I terminated the wires myself at the distri=
butor cap.&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">From<span class=3D"Apple-style-span=
" style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-=
composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-f=
rame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">&nbsp;Don's iPhone 203-592-8427<=
/span><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-c=
olor: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 1=
92, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.23=
0469); ">Or 203-264-8301 home</span></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite">On Aug 25, 2021, at 12:23 PM, Will Seay &lt;Tigers@embarq=
mail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-size:small">I recently decided to replace my plug wires with a new set=
 that has the correct OEM markings.&nbsp; As simple as this process sounds, i=
t turned into a great adventure for me.&nbsp; I won't relate all the details=
 of the adventure but there was a question that arose that I hope someone ca=
n answer for me.&nbsp; The shop manual contains a drawing that shows the cor=
rect routing for the plug wires.&nbsp; On each side of the engine the wires g=
o through a couple of wire guides that provide the correct spacing and routi=
ng for the wires.&nbsp; On the right side the wires are routed in the order 1=
-2-3-4.&nbsp; On the left side the order is 7-5-6-8.&nbsp; The text in the m=
anual explains that the reason for this order is to provide separation betwe=
en the number 7 and 8 wires.&nbsp; Seven and 8 are adjacent in the firing or=
der and routing their wires in close parallel as they would be if the routin=
g order were the expected 5-6-7-8, might lead to induced current between 7 a=
nd 8 resulting in misfire.&nbsp; I routed my wires according to the advice o=
f the shop manual.&nbsp; My question is, was the original (factory) order 7-=
5-6-8 or was it 5-6-7-8?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-siz=
e:small"><br clear=3D"all"></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">W=
ill - 382001570 <br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a></div></div></div></div>
<span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span></span=
><br><span>[email-masked]</span><br><span></span><br><span>Donate: ht=
tp://www.team.net/donate.html</span><br><span>Archive: http://www.team.net/p=
ipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive</span><br><span></span><br><sp=
an>Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/fast427@sbcglob=
al.net</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br></div></blockquote></div>=
</body></html>=

--Apple-Mail-0C856DB0-8F29-4434-9B32-9E4CD6C3878B--

--===============7031767259850299058==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

_______________________________________________

[email-masked]

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive

Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]

--===============7031767259850299058==--

---

From: "Ron Fraser" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:57:01 -0400

This is a multipart message in MIME format.

--===============3032832825156050173==
	boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01D799B9.14DD83E0"
Content-Language: en-us

This is a multipart message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_000B_01D799B9.14DD83E0
	charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Will

                The original stock firing order is 1,5,4,2,6,3,7,8.

The original stock ignition wire order is as shown in the Shop Manual, =
Section B, pg. 71 =E2=80=93 7-5-6-8 for the left side.

=20

In general the majority of engine related pictures, diagrams and wording =
in the Sunbeam Shop Manuals are directly from Ford Shop Manuals.

=20

Ron Fraser

=20

From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Will Seay
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 12:23 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Tigers] Plug Wires

=20

I recently decided to replace my plug wires with a new set that has the =
correct OEM markings.  As simple as this process sounds, it turned into =
a great adventure for me.  I won't relate all the details of the =
adventure but there was a question that arose that I hope someone can =
answer for me.  The shop manual contains a drawing that shows the =
correct routing for the plug wires.  On each side of the engine the =
wires go through a couple of wire guides that provide the correct =
spacing and routing for the wires.  On the right side the wires are =
routed in the order 1-2-3-4.  On the left side the order is 7-5-6-8.  =
The text in the manual explains that the reason for this order is to =
provide separation between the number 7 and 8 wires.  Seven and 8 are =
adjacent in the firing order and routing their wires in close parallel =
as they would be if the routing order were the expected 5-6-7-8, might =
lead to induced current between 7 and 8 resulting in misfire.  I routed =
my wires according to the advice of the shop manual.  My question is, =
was the original (factory) order 7-5-6-8 or was it 5-6-7-8?

Will - 382001570=20

------=_NextPart_000_000B_01D799B9.14DD83E0
	charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" =
xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =
xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =
xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" =
xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><meta =
name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 15 (filtered =
medium)"><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
	{font-family:"Cambria Math";
	panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
	{font-family:Calibri;
	panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
	{margin:0in;
	margin-bottom:.0001pt;
	font-size:11.0pt;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
	{mso-style-priority:99;
	color:blue;
	text-decoration:underline;}
span.EmailStyle18
	{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
	color:windowtext;}
.MsoChpDefault
	{mso-style-type:export-only;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
@page WordSection1
	{size:8.5in 11.0in;
	margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
	{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit">
<o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue =
vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Will<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The original stock firing order is =
1,5,4,2,6,3,7,8.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The original stock =
ignition wire order is as shown in the Shop Manual, Section B, pg. 71 =
=E2=80=93 7-5-6-8 for the left side.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>In general =
the majority of engine related pictures, diagrams and wording in the =
Sunbeam Shop Manuals are directly from Ford Shop =
Manuals.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> =
Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Will =
Seay<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 25, 2021 12:23 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Plug =
Wires<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I recently decided to =
replace my plug wires with a new set that has the correct OEM =
markings.&nbsp; As simple as this process sounds, it turned into a great =
adventure for me.&nbsp; I won't relate all the details of the adventure =
but there was a question that arose that I hope someone can answer for =
me.&nbsp; The shop manual contains a drawing that shows the correct =
routing for the plug wires.&nbsp; On each side of the engine the wires =
go through a couple of wire guides that provide the correct spacing and =
routing for the wires.&nbsp; On the right side the wires are routed in =
the order 1-2-3-4.&nbsp; On the left side the order is 7-5-6-8.&nbsp; =
The text in the manual explains that the reason for this order is to =
provide separation between the number 7 and 8 wires.&nbsp; Seven and 8 =
are adjacent in the firing order and routing their wires in close =
parallel as they would be if the routing order were the expected =
5-6-7-8, might lead to induced current between 7 and 8 resulting in =
misfire.&nbsp; I routed my wires according to the advice of the shop =
manual.&nbsp; My question is, was the original (factory) order 7-5-6-8 =
or was it 5-6-7-8?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br =
clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br =
clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Will - =
382001570 <br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></d=
iv></div></div></body></html>
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01D799B9.14DD83E0--

--===============3032832825156050173==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

[email-masked]

--===============3032832825156050173==--