Subject: Re: [Tigers] Bolt size for heater valve <-> pipe flange?

From: "Ron Fraser" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 17:26:46 -0400

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I see a #10 UNF x =C2=BD=E2=80=9D listed with the valve but not sure if =
that is correct.

Sunbeam Parts Lists are available online.

Check the OD of the threads =E2=80=93 a table I have indicates #10 UNF =
24 TPI  OD =3D .190=E2=80=9D

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For British cars you need UNF tap and dies =E2=80=93 SAE tap and dies =
will cut metal because they are slightly different.

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If you have extra bolts =E2=80=93 I like to cut grooves down the threads =
to make a thread chaser to clean out the threads.

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For any stuck bolts use penetrating oil or ATF, let them soak overnight =
if needed.

Hope that helps

Ron Fraser

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To: <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
Cc: R Flynn <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Tigers] Bolt size for heater valve <-> pipe flange?

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Does anyone happen to know the bolt size for the 2 bolts that are used =
between the valve itself and the pipe flange (with the mounting bracket =
sandwiched in between, photo below)?

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The look like maybe 12-24, but I don=E2=80=99t have a tap or die to =
confirm that ...

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It appears as though the leak in mine is caused because the seal between =
these two has perished, but so has one of the bolts!  Going try =
replacing it with a small donut ring to see if that cures the issue.

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Cheers in advance,

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Rick

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I see a =
#10 UNF x =C2=BD=E2=80=9D listed with the valve but not sure if that is =
correct.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sunbeam Parts Lists are =
available online.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Check the OD of the =
threads =E2=80=93 a table I have indicates #10 UNF 24 TPI&nbsp; OD =3D =
.190=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>For British cars you need UNF tap and dies =E2=80=93 =
SAE tap and dies will cut metal because they are slightly =
different.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>If you have extra bolts =E2=80=93 I like to cut =
grooves down the threads to make a thread chaser to clean out the =
threads.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>For any stuck bolts use penetrating oil or ATF, let =
them soak overnight if needed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hope =
that helps<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>R Flynn via =
Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 10, 2020 3:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> R Flynn =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Bolt size for =
heater valve &lt;-&gt; pipe flange?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Does anyone =
happen to know the bolt size for the 2 bolts that are used between the =
valve itself and the pipe flange (with the mounting bracket sandwiched =
in between, photo below)?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The look like maybe 12-24, but I don=E2=80=99t have a =
tap or die to confirm that ...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>It appears as though the leak in mine is caused =
because the seal between these two has perished, but so has one of the =
bolts!&nbsp; Going try replacing it with a small donut ring to see if =
that cures the issue.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers in advance,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rick<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p =
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From: D or G at sbc via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 00:37:05 +0000 (UTC)

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 It is 10/32 (10NF) by 5/8" long. On the "donut ring" get the thickest you =
can find (at least 1/8"), you might also want to put some silicon on it.
David Franchi

    On Saturday, October 10, 2020, 12:16:14 PM PDT, R Flynn via Tigers <tig=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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 Does anyone happen to know the bolt size for the 2 bolts that are used bet=
ween the valve itself and the pipe flange (with the mounting bracket sandwi=
ched in between, photo below)?
The look like maybe 12-24, but I don=E2=80=99t have a tap or die to confirm=
 that ...
It appears as though the leak in mine is caused because the seal between th=
ese two has perished, but so has one of the bolts!=C2=A0 Going try replacin=
g it with a small donut ring to see if that cures the issue.
Cheers in advance,
Rick

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">It is 10/32 (10NF) by 5/8" l=
ong. On the "donut ring" get the thickest you can find (at least 1/8"), you=
 might also want to put some silicon on it.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setd=
ir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">David Franchi=
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                    On Saturday, October 10, 2020, 12:16:14 PM PDT, R Flynn=
 via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp8a527209yiv7112927006">Does anyone happe=
n to know the bolt size for the 2 bolts that are used between the valve its=
elf and the pipe flange (with the mounting bracket sandwiched in between, p=
hoto below)?<div><br></div><div>The look like maybe 12-24, but I don=E2=80=
=99t have a tap or die to confirm that ...</div><div><br></div><div>It appe=
ars as though the leak in mine is caused because the seal between these two=
 has perished, but so has one of the bolts!&nbsp; Going try replacing it wi=
th a small donut ring to see if that cures the issue.</div><div><br></div><=
div>Cheers in advance,</div><div><br></div><div>Rick</div><div><br></div><d=
iv><div><img src=3D"cid:hNLLFuP6R9cDFPTMhGQS" style=3D"max-width: 800px; wi=
dth: 100%;"></div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydp8a527209yiv=
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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 16:17:29 +0000 (UTC)

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please no silicon permatex makes a product called the right stuff=C2=A0 wor=
ks great instead of a gasket

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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Bolt size for heater valve <-> pipe flange?

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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt arial;">please no silicon permatex mak=
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r>
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From: D or G at sbc via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: &lt;[email-masked]&gt; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; rflynn@alu=
m.rpi.edu &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Sat, Oct 10, 2020 8:37 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Bolt size for heater valve &lt;-&gt; pipe flange?<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">It is 10/32 (10NF) by 5/8" long. On the "donut ring" get t=
he thickest you can find (at least 1/8"), you might also want to put some s=
ilicon on it.</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">David Franchi<br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

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<div id=3D"yiv8431110569ydp8a527209yiv7112927006">Does anyone happen to kno=
w the bolt size for the 2 bolts that are used between the valve itself and =
the pipe flange (with the mounting bracket sandwiched in between, photo bel=
ow)?
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>The look like maybe 12-24, but I don=E2=80=99t have a tap or die to co=
nfirm that ...</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>It appears as though the leak in mine is caused because the seal betwe=
en these two has perished, but so has one of the bolts!&nbsp; Going try rep=
lacing it with a small donut ring to see if that cures the issue.</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Cheers in advance,</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Rick</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

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Cheers all
- Bolts definitely appear to be 10-32 UNF
- That said, those are a tight fit into the threads, might need to chase it
out with a tap to clear out the corrosion ...

On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 at 20:37, D or G at sbc <[email-masked]> wrote:

> It is 10/32 (10NF) by 5/8" long. On the "donut ring" get the thickest you
> On Saturday, October 10, 2020, 12:16:14 PM PDT, R Flynn via Tigers <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone happen to know the bolt size for the 2 bolts that are used
> between the valve itself and the pipe flange (with the mounting bracket
> The look like maybe 12-24, but I don=E2=80=99t have a tap or die to confi=
rm that
> ...
>
> It appears as though the leak in mine is caused because the seal between
> these two has perished, but so has one of the bolts!  Going try replacing
> it with a small donut ring to see if that cures the issue.
>
> Cheers in advance,
>
> Rick
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Che=
ers all</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">- Bolts=
 definitely appear to be 10-32 UNF</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-size:small">- That said, those are a tight fit into the threads, m=
ight need to chase it out with a tap to clear out the corrosion ...</div></=
div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
 Sat, 10 Oct 2020 at 20:37, D or G at sbc &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:orr4sale@sb=
cglobal.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr">It is 10/32 (10NF) by 5/8&quot; long. On the &quot=
;donut ring&quot; get the thickest you can find (at least 1/8&quot;), you m=
ight also want to put some silicon on it.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">David Franchi<br></div><div><br></div>
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                    On Saturday, October 10, 2020, 12:16:14 PM PDT, R Flynn=
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                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-448828246491238869ydp8a527209yiv71=
12927006">Does anyone happen to know the bolt size for the 2 bolts that are=
 used between the valve itself and the pipe flange (with the mounting brack=
et sandwiched in between, photo below)?<div><br></div><div>The look like ma=
ybe 12-24, but I don=E2=80=99t have a tap or die to confirm that ...</div><=
div><br></div><div>It appears as though the leak in mine is caused because =
the seal between these two has perished, but so has one of the bolts!=C2=A0=
 Going try replacing it with a small donut ring to see if that cures the is=
sue.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers in advance,</div><div><br></div><div>R=
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