Subject: Re: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment

From: Michael Wood via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 02:01:36 +0000 (UTC)

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Your baseline setup is what I've run on my car and generally recommend. If =
I could get a little more negative camber, I'd do it, but until I go to ear=
lier Alpine upper A-arms, -1.25 is all I can get without the upper a-arms r=
unning into the fenderwells. As you've said, this alignment works well. As =
far as tire wear, it is aggressive toe settings (typically toe out to affec=
t more "immediate" turn in) which kill tires, not the fairly benign -1.25 n=
egative camber. I keep my toe at zero to 1/16" toe in, which helps with str=
aight line tracking and promotes even front tire wear..

I'm really surprised that Dale specs such minimal negative camber...maybe t=
hat's why I beat him at SUNI on the autocross course? ;)

Seriously, negative 1/4 static is basically straight up. With the very poor=
 camber curve of our cars, you'll go positive very quickly in compression. =
Are you sure that's what he suggests? I can understand his recommendation f=
or very slight toe out for turn in/response reasons. Keeping it zero to ver=
y slight toe out won't necessarily be a tire killer, but (as you said), wit=
h the coarse tie rod end adjustment, you could end up with more than that..=
.and then will have wear issues and likely "tramlining". I did the Tom Hall=
 mod to get a more normal, fine thread adjustment with lock nuts which allo=
ws fine adjustment of toe.

I'd say, if it's not broke, don't fix it. Seems your current settings have =
served you well.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Martin via Tigers <[email-masked]>
To: Tiger List Serve <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, Mar 20, 2019 6:42 pm
Subject: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment

Alignment Thoughts
Yes I am confused about which specs to take with me to thealignment shop.=
=C2=A0 Maybe the light bulbwill go on with your help. =C2=A0Reported: We di=
dn't pay inordinate attention to the factoryspecs when aligning my Tiger la=
st time, but went with numbers which were moreconducive to performance. The=
 set up has been: =C2=A0Caster, as much as you can find reasonably, 3.75~.=
=C2=A0 Put in FIRST=C2=A0Camber -1.25~. =C2=A0Toe 0-1/16 (kind of hard with=
 the stock tie rod end set up,you either get 0 or 1/8 in or out). =C2=A0The=
se settings have worn tires evenly (yes, even with thecamber), made the car=
 very autocross and open track friendly, and provided goodstraight line sta=
bility.=C2=A0Dale Says to use:=C2=A0 USETHESE=C2=A0Caster:=C2=A0 3-4degress=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 shims - put on no matter whatbut .1 or .06 or 1 of each?.=C2=
=A0 Positive or negative?
=C2=A0Camber: =C2=BC neg =C2=A0Toe:=C2=A0 0 to 1/16 out=C2=A0Factory:=C2=A0=
=C2=A0
Castor:=C2=A0 3.5 Positive=C2=A0Camber: =C2=BD Plus or minus =C2=BC positiv=
e =C2=A0Toe In: 1/8=E2=80=9D (3mm)=C2=A0Confusion:=C2=A0 SS shims.100=E2=80=
=9D thick FS58 and .060=E2=80=9D thick FS58M says they are for =E2=80=98cam=
ber=E2=80=99.=C2=A0 Are there castor shims as well or did I nottake good no=
tes?=C2=A0 15=E2=80=9D wheels on 205 x 50x15 tires =E2=80=93 used mainly on=
 the street with 4 hour trips so need good straightline stability.

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<div style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:b=
lack;"><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;=
color:black;">Your baseline setup is what I've run on my car and generally =
recommend. If I could get a little more negative camber, I'd do it, but unt=
il I go to earlier Alpine upper A-arms, -1.25 is all I can get without the =
upper a-arms running into the fenderwells. As you've said, this alignment w=
orks well. As far as tire wear, it is aggressive toe settings (typically to=
e out to affect more "immediate" turn in) which kill tires, not the fairly =
benign -1.25 negative camber. I keep my toe at zero to 1/16" toe in, which =
helps with straight line tracking and promotes even front tire wear..<br><b=
r>I'm really surprised that Dale specs such minimal negative camber...maybe=
 that's why I beat him at SUNI on the autocross course? ;)<br><br>Seriously=
, negative 1/4 static is basically straight up. With the very poor camber c=
urve of our cars, you'll go positive very quickly in compression. Are you s=
ure that's what he suggests? I can understand his recommendation for very s=
light toe out for turn in/response reasons. Keeping it zero to very slight =
toe out won't necessarily be a tire killer, but (as you said), with the coa=
rse tie rod end adjustment, you could end up with more than that...and then=
 will have wear issues and likely "tramlining". I did the Tom Hall mod to g=
et a more normal, fine thread adjustment with lock nuts which allows fine a=
djustment of toe.<br><br>I'd say, if it's not broke, don't fix it. Seems yo=
ur current settings have served you well.<br><br>Mike<br><br><br>-----Origi=
nal Message-----<br>From: Joel Martin via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&=
gt;<br>To: Tiger List Serve &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Sent: Wed, Mar=
 20, 2019 6:42 pm<br>Subject: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment<br><br></di=
v><div id=3D"yiv8852236953"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:=
#fff;font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;">

<h1 id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98827">Alignment Tho=
ughts</h1>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98828">Yes I am con=
fused about which specs to take with me to the
alignment shop.<span id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_988=
29">&nbsp; </span>Maybe the light bulb
will go on with your help. </div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98830">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98831">Reported: We=
 didn't pay inordinate attention to the factory
specs when aligning my Tiger last time, but went with numbers which were mo=
re
conducive to performance. The set up has been: </div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98832">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98833">Caster, as m=
uch as you can find reasonably, 3.75~.<span id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1553074082470_98834">&nbsp; </span>Put in FIRST</div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98835">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98836">Camber -1.25=
~. </div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98837">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98838">Toe 0-1/16 (=
kind of hard with the stock tie rod end set up,
you either get 0 or 1/8 in or out). </div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98839">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98840">These settin=
gs have worn tires evenly (yes, even with the
camber), made the car very autocross and open track friendly, and provided =
good
straight line stability.</div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98841">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98842">Dale Says to=
 use:<span id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98843">&nbsp;=
 </span><b id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98844">USE
THESE</b></div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98845">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98846" dir=3D"ltr">=
Caster:<span id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98847">&nbs=
p; </span>3-4
degress<span id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98848">&nbs=
p;&nbsp; </span>shims - put on no matter what
but .1 or .06 or 1 of each?.&nbsp; Positive or negative?<br></div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98849">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98850">Camber: =C2=
=BC neg </div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98851">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98852">Toe:<span id=
=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98853">&nbsp; </span>0 to =
1/16 <b id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98854">out</b></=
div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98855"><b id=3D"yiv=
8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98856">&nbsp;</b></div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98857"><b id=3D"yiv=
8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98858">Factory:</b></div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98859"><b id=3D"yiv=
8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98860">&nbsp;</b></div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98861"><b id=3D"yiv=
8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98862"></b></div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98864">&nbsp;<img c=
lass=3D"yiv8852236953ymail-preserve-class yiv8852236953inline-image-guid-a5=
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=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98973" style=3D"width:100%=
;max-width:572px;max-height:121px;" alt=3D"Inline image" src=3D"cid:d03e2b3=
[email-masked]" yahoo_partid=3D"2"><br id=3D"yiv88=
52236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98974"></div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98865">Castor:<span=
 id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98866">&nbsp; </span>3.=
5 Positive</div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98867">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98868">Camber: =C2=
=BD Plus or minus =C2=BC positive </div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98869">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98870">Toe In: 1/8=
=E2=80=9D (3mm)</div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98871">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98872">Confusion:<s=
pan id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98873">&nbsp; </span=
>SS shims
.100=E2=80=9D thick FS58 and .060=E2=80=9D thick FS58M says they are for =
=E2=80=98camber=E2=80=99.<span id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074=
082470_98874">&nbsp; </span>Are there castor shims as well or did I not
take good notes?<span id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98=
875">&nbsp; </span>15=E2=80=9D wheels on 205 x 50
x15 tires =E2=80=93 used mainly on the street with 4 hour trips so need goo=
d straight
line stability.<br id=3D"yiv8852236953yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98876=
">
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From: Michael Wood via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 03:58:53 +0000 (UTC)

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Sorry, hit send before I answered about caster. No, you don't use the same =
shims that Rick sells for the a-arms. But, you can use pretty much any shim=
 of the right size. You want positive caster. It helps not only with straig=
ht line stability and steering self-centering, but also helps with camber g=
ain at lock. You just shim the back crossmember bolts to get where you need=
 to be on caster.=20

Also, correction: when I said "go positive" in compression in my first resp=
onse, I didn't mean that the dynamic camber value is absolute positive, onl=
y that our suspension doesn't give the type of camber gain required to keep=
 the tire tread flat as the sidewall flexes and rolls under cornering load.=
.=C2=A0

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Wood via Tigers <[email-masked]>
To: jmartiniii <[email-masked]>; tigers <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, Mar 20, 2019 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Martin via Tigers <[email-masked]>
To: Tiger List Serve <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, Mar 20, 2019 6:42 pm
Subject: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment

Alignment Thoughts

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<div style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:b=
lack;"><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;=
color:black;">Sorry, hit send before I answered about caster. No, you don't=
 use the same shims that Rick sells for the a-arms. But, you can use pretty=
 much any shim of the right size. You want positive caster. It helps not on=
ly with straight line stability and steering self-centering, but also helps=
 with camber gain at lock. You just shim the back crossmember bolts to get =
where you need to be on caster. <br><br>Also, correction: when I said "go p=
ositive" in compression in my first response, I didn't mean that the dynami=
c camber value is absolute positive, only that our suspension doesn't give =
the type of camber gain required to keep the tire tread flat as the sidewal=
l flexes and rolls under cornering load..&nbsp;<br><br><br>-----Original Me=
ssage-----<br>From: Michael Wood via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<b=
r>To: jmartiniii &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; tigers &lt;[email-masked]=
.net&gt;<br>Sent: Wed, Mar 20, 2019 8:19 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Tigers] 66 MK =
1A Wheel Alignment<br><br></div><div id=3D"yiv5235076966"><div style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;color:black;"><div sty=
le=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black;"=
>Your baseline setup is what I've run on my car and generally recommend. If=
 I could get a little more negative camber, I'd do it, but until I go to ea=
rlier Alpine upper A-arms, -1.25 is all I can get without the upper a-arms =
running into the fenderwells. As you've said, this alignment works well. As=
 far as tire wear, it is aggressive toe settings (typically toe out to affe=
ct more "immediate" turn in) which kill tires, not the fairly benign -1.25 =
negative camber. I keep my toe at zero to 1/16" toe in, which helps with st=
raight line tracking and promotes even front tire wear..<br><br>I'm really =
surprised that Dale specs such minimal negative camber...maybe that's why I=
 beat him at SUNI on the autocross course? ;)<br><br>Seriously, negative 1/=
4 static is basically straight up. With the very poor camber curve of our c=
ars, you'll go positive very quickly in compression. Are you sure that's wh=
at he suggests? I can understand his recommendation for very slight toe out=
 for turn in/response reasons. Keeping it zero to very slight toe out won't=
 necessarily be a tire killer, but (as you said), with the coarse tie rod e=
nd adjustment, you could end up with more than that...and then will have we=
ar issues and likely "tramlining". I did the Tom Hall mod to get a more nor=
mal, fine thread adjustment with lock nuts which allows fine adjustment of =
toe.<br><br>I'd say, if it's not broke, don't fix it. Seems your current se=
ttings have served you well.<br><br>Mike<br><br><br>-----Original Message--=
---<br>From: Joel Martin via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>To: Ti=
ger List Serve &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Sent: Wed, Mar 20, 2019 6:4=
2 pm<br>Subject: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment<br><br></div><div id=3D"=
yiv5235076966"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-fam=
ily:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;">

<h1 id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98827">Alignment Tho=
ughts</h1>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98828">Yes I am con=
fused about which specs to take with me to the
alignment shop.<span id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_988=
29">&nbsp; </span>Maybe the light bulb
will go on with your help. </div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98830">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98831">Reported: We=
 didn't pay inordinate attention to the factory
specs when aligning my Tiger last time, but went with numbers which were mo=
re
conducive to performance. The set up has been: </div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98832">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98833">Caster, as m=
uch as you can find reasonably, 3.75~.<span id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1553074082470_98834">&nbsp; </span>Put in FIRST</div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98835">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98836">Camber -1.25=
~. </div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98837">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98838">Toe 0-1/16 (=
kind of hard with the stock tie rod end set up,
you either get 0 or 1/8 in or out). </div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98839">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98840">These settin=
gs have worn tires evenly (yes, even with the
camber), made the car very autocross and open track friendly, and provided =
good
straight line stability.</div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98841">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98842">Dale Says to=
 use:<span id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98843">&nbsp;=
 </span><b id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98844">USE
THESE</b></div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98845">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98846" dir=3D"ltr">=
Caster:<span id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98847">&nbs=
p; </span>3-4
degress<span id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98848">&nbs=
p;&nbsp; </span>shims - put on no matter what
but .1 or .06 or 1 of each?.&nbsp; Positive or negative?<br></div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98849">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98850">Camber: =C2=
=BC neg </div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98851">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98852">Toe:<span id=
=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98853">&nbsp; </span>0 to =
1/16 <b id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98854">out</b></=
div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98855"><b id=3D"yiv=
5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98856">&nbsp;</b></div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98857"><b id=3D"yiv=
5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98858">Factory:</b></div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98859"><b id=3D"yiv=
5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98860">&nbsp;</b></div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98861"><b id=3D"yiv=
5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98862"></b></div>

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lass=3D"yiv5235076966ymail-preserve-class yiv5235076966inline-image-guid-a5=
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;max-width:572px;max-height:121px;" alt=3D"Inline image" src=3D"cid:d03e2b3=
[email-masked]" yahoo_partid=3D"2"><br id=3D"yiv52=
35076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98974"></div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98865">Castor:<span=
 id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98866">&nbsp; </span>3.=
5 Positive</div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98867">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98868">Camber: =C2=
=BD Plus or minus =C2=BC positive </div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98869">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98870">Toe In: 1/8=
=E2=80=9D (3mm)</div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98871">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98872">Confusion:<s=
pan id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98873">&nbsp; </span=
.100=E2=80=9D thick FS58 and .060=E2=80=9D thick FS58M says they are for =
=E2=80=98camber=E2=80=99.<span id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074=
082470_98874">&nbsp; </span>Are there castor shims as well or did I not
take good notes?<span id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98=
875">&nbsp; </span>15=E2=80=9D wheels on 205 x 50
x15 tires =E2=80=93 used mainly on the street with 4 hour trips so need goo=
d straight
line stability.<br id=3D"yiv5235076966yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98876=
">
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From: Michael Wood via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 17:22:58 +0000 (UTC)

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The idea of 400# added to the front end is a new one, for me. Never heard o=
f anything like it. Interesting.

My normal practice, in all cars I'm aligning or corner weighting, is to put=
 weight equivalent to my body weight in the driver's seat, but that's about=
 it.

Seems most specs are consistent on caster (3-4 degrees positive, which will=
 vary with what can reasonably be obtained for a given Tiger) and toe (slig=
ht toe-in for straight line tracking). Where specs vary is on camber. Like =
I've said, if the car is to be autocrossed or driven at all hard, dialing i=
n a fair amount of negative static camber is indicated. If the car is not d=
riven in that manner, less static camber will provide a little lighter stee=
ring feel, but at the expense of front end grip in cornering.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
To: 'Joel Martin' <[email-masked]>; tigers <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thu, Mar 21, 2019 9:52 am
Subject: Re: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment

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Joel

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The front alignment on the Tiger has always been a question=
 mark to me.

First you have to read the Shop Manual carefully and understand the Rootes =
alignment procedure.

Look at Section F, pg. 4 & 5 =E2=80=93 the Rootes method =E2=80=93 fully la=
den car with gap gauges front and rear with 400 lbs. added weight at the fr=
ont.

 =C2=A0

Has anyone ever used the Rootes method to set the alignment then removed th=
e gap gauges and weight to see what the unladen alignment numbers look like=
?

 =C2=A0

Second, the Shop Manual alignment numbers are for the fully laden suspensio=
n.

Castor Angle =3D 3 degrees 50 minutes positive that =3D 3.8 degrees positiv=
e

Camber Angle =3D 30 minutes positive, plus or minus 15 minutes

Toe-in =3D 1/8 inch

 =C2=A0

The desired setup numbers I have written down for the street with radial ti=
re:

Castor =3D 3 to 4 degrees positive

Camber =3D =C2=BC to =C2=BD degree negative

Toe-in =3D 1/16 inch

There is no indication if this is laden or unladen or exactly where I found=
 these numbers.

 =C2=A0

Currently I=E2=80=99m not sure what my front alignment number are but I wat=
ch for uneven tire wear =E2=80=93 I have none.

I believe I have between 1 to 2 degrees negative camber and around 1/16 inc=
h toe-in.

 =C2=A0

Ron Fraser

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Joel Martin via T=
igers
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 6:09 PM
To: Tiger List Serve <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment

 =C2=A0

Alignment Thoughts

Yes I am confused about which specs to take with me to the alignment shop.=
=C2=A0 Maybe the light bulb will go on with your help.=20

=C2=A0

Reported: We didn't pay inordinate attention to the factory specs when alig=
ning my Tiger last time, but went with numbers which were more conducive to=
 performance. The set up has been:=20

=C2=A0

Caster, as much as you can find reasonably, 3.75~.=C2=A0 Put in FIRST

=C2=A0

Camber -1.25~.=20

=C2=A0

Toe 0-1/16 (kind of hard with the stock tie rod end set up, you either get =
0 or 1/8 in or out).=20

=C2=A0

These settings have worn tires evenly (yes, even with the camber), made the=
 car very autocross and open track friendly, and provided good straight lin=
e stability.

=C2=A0

Dale Says to use: =C2=A0USE THESE

=C2=A0

Caster:=C2=A0 3-4 degress=C2=A0=C2=A0 shims - put on no matter what but .1 =
or .06 or 1 of each?.=C2=A0 Positive or negative?

=C2=A0

Camber: =C2=BC neg=20

=C2=A0

Toe:=C2=A0 0 to 1/16 out

=C2=A0

Factory:

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Castor:=C2=A0 3.5 Positive

=C2=A0

Camber: =C2=BD Plus or minus =C2=BC positive=20

=C2=A0

Toe In: 1/8=E2=80=9D (3mm)

=C2=A0

Confusion:=C2=A0 SS shims .100=E2=80=9D thick FS58 and .060=E2=80=9D thick =
FS58M says they are for =E2=80=98camber=E2=80=99.=C2=A0 Are there castor sh=
ims as well or did I not take good notes?=C2=A0 15=E2=80=9D wheels on 205 x=
 50 x15 tires =E2=80=93 used mainly on the street with 4 hour trips so need=
 good straight line stability.

 =C2=A0

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<div style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:b=
lack;"><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;=
color:black;">The idea of 400# added to the front end is a new one, for me.=
 Never heard of anything like it. Interesting.<br><br>My normal practice, i=
n all cars I'm aligning or corner weighting, is to put weight equivalent to=
 my body weight in the driver's seat, but that's about it.<br><br>Seems mos=
t specs are consistent on caster (3-4 degrees positive, which will vary wit=
h what can reasonably be obtained for a given Tiger) and toe (slight toe-in=
 for straight line tracking). Where specs vary is on camber. Like I've said=
, if the car is to be autocrossed or driven at all hard, dialing in a fair =
amount of negative static camber is indicated. If the car is not driven in =
that manner, less static camber will provide a little lighter steering feel=
, but at the expense of front end grip in cornering.<br><br>Mike<br><br><br=
>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Ron Fraser via Tigers &lt;tigers@autox=
.team.net&gt;<br>To: 'Joel Martin' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; tigers &lt=
;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Sent: Thu, Mar 21, 2019 9:52 am<br>Subject: R=
e: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment<br><br></div><div id=3D"yiv2765493655"=
><style>#yiv2765493655 #yiv2765493655 --    _filtered #yiv2765493655 {panos=
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493655 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv2765493655 div.yiv2765493655Wo=
rdSection1  {} #yiv2765493655 </style><div><div class=3D"yiv2765493655WordS=
ection1"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal">Joel</p><p class=3D"yiv2765493=
655MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;  The front alignment on the Tiger has always =
been a question mark to me.</p><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal">First yo=
u have to read the Shop Manual carefully and understand the Rootes alignmen=
t procedure.</p><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal">Look at Section F, pg. =
4 &amp; 5 =E2=80=93 the Rootes method =E2=80=93 fully laden car with gap ga=
uges front and rear with 400 lbs. added weight at the front.</p><p class=3D=
"yiv2765493655MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal">Has=
 anyone ever used the Rootes method to set the alignment then removed the g=
ap gauges and weight to see what the unladen alignment numbers look like?</=
p><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv2765493655M=
soNormal">Second, the Shop Manual alignment numbers are for the fully laden=
 suspension.</p><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal">Castor Angle =3D 3 degr=
ees 50 minutes positive that =3D 3.8 degrees positive</p><p class=3D"yiv276=
5493655MsoNormal">Camber Angle =3D 30 minutes positive, plus or minus 15 mi=
nutes</p><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal">Toe-in =3D 1/8 inch</p><p clas=
s=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal"=
>The desired setup numbers I have written down for the street with radial t=
ire:</p><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal">Castor =3D 3 to 4 degrees posit=
ive</p><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal">Camber =3D <span style=3D"font-s=
ize:14.0pt;">=C2=BC to =C2=BD</span> degree negative</p><p class=3D"yiv2765=
493655MsoNormal">Toe-in =3D 1/16 inch</p><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal=
">There is no indication if this is laden or unladen or exactly where I fou=
nd these numbers.</p><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p clas=
s=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal">Currently I=E2=80=99m not sure what my front a=
lignment number are but I watch for uneven tire wear =E2=80=93 I have none.=
</p><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal">I believe I have between 1 to 2 deg=
rees negative camber and around 1/16 inch toe-in.</p><p class=3D"yiv2765493=
655MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal">Ron Fraser</p>=
<p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv2765493655Mso=
Normal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div clas=
s=3D"yiv2765493655yqt0096015884" id=3D"yiv2765493655yqt09056"><div><div sty=
le=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;=
"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tigers &lt;tigers-bounce=
[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joel Martin via Tigers<br clear=3D=
"none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 20, 2019 6:09 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>=
To:</b> Tiger List Serve &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b=
>Subject:</b> [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment</p></div></div><p class=3D"=
yiv2765493655MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div><h1 style=3D"background:white;"><sp=
an>Alignment Thoughts</span></h1><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1553074082470_98828"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D"backgroun=
d:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Yes I am confused about which s=
pecs to take with me to the alignment shop.&nbsp; Maybe the light bulb will=
 go on with your help. </span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1553074082470_98830"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D"ba=
ckground:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><=
div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98831"><p class=3D"y=
iv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12.0pt;">Reported: We didn't pay inordinate attention to the factory specs=
 when aligning my Tiger last time, but went with numbers which were more co=
nducive to performance. The set up has been: </span></p></div><div id=3D"yi=
v2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98832"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655=
MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&n=
bsp;</span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_155307408247=
0_98833"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Caster, as much as you can find reasonably,=
 3.75~.&nbsp; Put in FIRST</span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98835"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D=
"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></p></di=
v><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98836"><p class=
=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font=
-size:12.0pt;">Camber -1.25~. </span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98837"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" styl=
e=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></p>=
</div><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98838"><p cla=
ss=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12.0pt;">Toe 0-1/16 (kind of hard with the stock tie rod end set up=
, you either get 0 or 1/8 in or out). </span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv276549=
3655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98839"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNorm=
al" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nbsp;</s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98840=
"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">These settings have worn tires evenly (yes, even w=
ith the camber), made the car very autocross and open track friendly, and p=
rovided good straight line stability.</span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv2765493=
655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98841"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNorma=
l" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nbsp;</sp=
an></p></div><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98842"=
><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Dale Says to use: &nbsp;<b id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98844">USE THESE</b></span></p></div><div id=3D"=
yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98845"><p class=3D"yiv27654936=
55MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">=
&nbsp;</span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082=
470_98846"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Caster:&nbsp; 3-4 degress&nbsp;&nbsp; shi=
ms - put on no matter what but .1 or .06 or 1 of each?.&nbsp; Positive or n=
egative?</span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_15530740=
82470_98849"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;=
"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv27=
65493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98850"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655Mso=
Normal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Cambe=
r: =C2=BC neg </span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_15=
53074082470_98851"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D"background:=
white;"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div id=3D=
"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98852"><p class=3D"yiv2765493=
655MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"=
>Toe:&nbsp; 0 to 1/16 <b id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470=
_98854">out</b></span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1=
553074082470_98855"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D"background=
:white;"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></b><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"></span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1553074082470_98857"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D"ba=
ckground:white;"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Factory:</span></b><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"></span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98859"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" st=
yle=3D"background:white;"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nbsp;</span=
></b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"></span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv27654=
93655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98864"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNor=
mal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nbsp;<i=
mg width=3D"572" height=3D"121" id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_155307=
4082470_98973" style=3D"width:5.9583in;min-height:1.2604in;" alt=3D"Inline =
image" src=3D"cid:713ZsvCJO8rEpUi0MzuO" yahoo_partid=3D"1.2"></span></p></d=
iv><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98865"><p class=
=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font=
-size:12.0pt;">Castor:&nbsp; 3.5 Positive</span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv276=
5493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98867"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoN=
ormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nbsp;=
</span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98=
868"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Camber: =C2=BD Plus or minus =C2=BC positive </=
span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_9886=
9"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98870"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" st=
yle=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Toe In: 1/8=E2=
=80=9D (3mm)</span></p></div><div id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553=
074082470_98871"><p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D"background:wh=
ite;"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div id=3D"y=
iv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98872"><p class=3D"yiv276549365=
5MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">C=
onfusion:&nbsp; SS shims .100=E2=80=9D thick FS58 and .060=E2=80=9D thick F=
S58M says they are for =E2=80=98camber=E2=80=99.&nbsp; Are there castor shi=
ms as well or did I not take good notes?&nbsp; 15=E2=80=9D wheels on 205 x =
50 x15 tires =E2=80=93 used mainly on the street with 4 hour trips so need =
good straight line stability.<br id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_15530=
74082470_98876" clear=3D"none"><br id=3D"yiv2765493655yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_155=
3074082470_98877" clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"yiv2765493655MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></di=
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