Subject: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment

From: Joel Martin via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 22:08:57 +0000 (UTC)

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Alignment Thoughts
Yes I am confused about which specs to take with me to thealignment shop.=
=C2=A0 Maybe the light bulbwill go on with your help. =C2=A0Reported: We di=
dn't pay inordinate attention to the factoryspecs when aligning my Tiger la=
st time, but went with numbers which were moreconducive to performance. The=
 set up has been: =C2=A0Caster, as much as you can find reasonably, 3.75~.=
=C2=A0 Put in FIRST=C2=A0Camber -1.25~. =C2=A0Toe 0-1/16 (kind of hard with=
 the stock tie rod end set up,you either get 0 or 1/8 in or out). =C2=A0The=
se settings have worn tires evenly (yes, even with thecamber), made the car=
 very autocross and open track friendly, and provided goodstraight line sta=
bility.=C2=A0Dale Says to use:=C2=A0 USETHESE=C2=A0Caster:=C2=A0 3-4degress=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 shims - put on no matter whatbut .1 or .06 or 1 of each?.=C2=
=A0 Positive or negative?
=C2=A0Camber: =C2=BC neg =C2=A0Toe:=C2=A0 0 to 1/16 out=C2=A0Factory:=C2=A0=
=C2=A0
Castor:=C2=A0 3.5 Positive=C2=A0Camber: =C2=BD Plus or minus =C2=BC positiv=
e =C2=A0Toe In: 1/8=E2=80=9D (3mm)=C2=A0Confusion:=C2=A0 SS shims.100=E2=80=
=9D thick FS58 and .060=E2=80=9D thick FS58M says they are for =E2=80=98cam=
ber=E2=80=99.=C2=A0 Are there castor shims as well or did I nottake good no=
tes?=C2=A0 15=E2=80=9D wheels on 205 x 50x15 tires =E2=80=93 used mainly on=
 the street with 4 hour trips so need good straightline stability.

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<h1 id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98827">Alignment Thoughts</h1>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98828">Yes I am confused about w=
hich specs to take with me to the
alignment shop.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_15=
53074082470_98829">&nbsp; </span>Maybe the light bulb
will go on with your help. </div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98830">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98831">Reported: We didn't pay i=
nordinate attention to the factory
specs when aligning my Tiger last time, but went with numbers which were mo=
re
conducive to performance. The set up has been: </div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98832">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98833">Caster, as much as you ca=
n find reasonably, 3.75~.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes" id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1553074082470_98834">&nbsp; </span>Put in FIRST</div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98835">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98836">Camber -1.25~. </div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98837">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98838">Toe 0-1/16 (kind of hard =
with the stock tie rod end set up,
you either get 0 or 1/8 in or out). </div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98839">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98840">These settings have worn =
tires evenly (yes, even with the
camber), made the car very autocross and open track friendly, and provided =
good
straight line stability.</div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98841">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98842">Dale Says to use:<span st=
yle=3D"mso-spacerun: yes" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98843">&nbs=
p; </span><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98844">USE
THESE</b></div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98845">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98846" dir=3D"ltr">Caster:<span =
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98847">&n=
bsp; </span>3-4
degress<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082=
470_98848">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>shims - put on no matter what
but .1 or .06 or 1 of each?.&nbsp; Positive or negative?<br></div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98849">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98850">Camber: =C2=BC neg </div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98851">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98852">Toe:<span style=3D"mso-sp=
acerun: yes" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98853">&nbsp; </span>0 t=
o 1/16 <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98854">out</b></div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98855"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1553074082470_98856">&nbsp;</b></div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98857"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1553074082470_98858">Factory:</b></div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98859"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1553074082470_98860">&nbsp;</b></div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98861"><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1553074082470_98862"></b></div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98864">&nbsp;<img class=3D"ymail=
-preserve-class inline-image-guid-a585f9b4-e574-f66e-a096-d8554a40e7a2 rte-=
inline-saved-image" src=3D"cid:[email-masked]=
om" data-id=3D"inline-image-guid-a585f9b4-e574-f66e-a096-d8554a40e7a2" alt=
=3D"Inline image" style=3D"width:100%;max-width:572px;max-height:121px;" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98973"><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553=
074082470_98974"></div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98865">Castor:<span style=3D"mso=
-spacerun: yes" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98866">&nbsp; </span>=
3.5 Positive</div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98867">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98868">Camber: =C2=BD Plus or mi=
nus =C2=BC positive </div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98869">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98870">Toe In: 1/8=E2=80=9D (3mm=
)</div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98871">&nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98872">Confusion:<span style=3D"=
mso-spacerun: yes" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98873">&nbsp; </sp=
an>SS shims
.100=E2=80=9D thick FS58 and .060=E2=80=9D thick FS58M says they are for =
=E2=80=98camber=E2=80=99.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes" id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1553074082470_98874">&nbsp; </span>Are there castor shims as well o=
r did I not
take good notes?<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1=
553074082470_98875">&nbsp; </span>15=E2=80=9D wheels on 205 x 50
x15 tires =E2=80=93 used mainly on the street with 4 hour trips so need goo=
d straight
line stability.<br style=3D"mso-special-character:line-break" id=3D"yui_3_1=
6_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98876">
<br style=3D"mso-special-character:line-break" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553=
074082470_98877">
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From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 11:49:47 -0400

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Joel

                The front alignment on the Tiger has always been a =
question mark to me.

First you have to read the Shop Manual carefully and understand the =
Rootes alignment procedure.

Look at Section F, pg. 4 & 5 =E2=80=93 the Rootes method =E2=80=93 fully =
laden car with gap gauges front and rear with 400 lbs. added weight at =
the front.

=20

Has anyone ever used the Rootes method to set the alignment then removed =
the gap gauges and weight to see what the unladen alignment numbers look =
like?

=20

Second, the Shop Manual alignment numbers are for the fully laden =
suspension.

Castor Angle =3D 3 degrees 50 minutes positive that =3D 3.8 degrees =
positive

Camber Angle =3D 30 minutes positive, plus or minus 15 minutes

Toe-in =3D 1/8 inch

=20

The desired setup numbers I have written down for the street with radial =
tire:

Castor =3D 3 to 4 degrees positive

Camber =3D =C2=BC to =C2=BD degree negative

Toe-in =3D 1/16 inch

There is no indication if this is laden or unladen or exactly where I =
found these numbers.

=20

Currently I=E2=80=99m not sure what my front alignment number are but I =
watch for uneven tire wear =E2=80=93 I have none.

I believe I have between 1 to 2 degrees negative camber and around 1/16 =
inch toe-in.

=20

Ron Fraser

=20

=20

=20

From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Joel Martin =
via Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 6:09 PM
To: Tiger List Serve <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment

=20

Alignment Thoughts

Yes I am confused about which specs to take with me to the alignment =
shop.  Maybe the light bulb will go on with your help.=20

=20

Reported: We didn't pay inordinate attention to the factory specs when =
aligning my Tiger last time, but went with numbers which were more =
conducive to performance. The set up has been:=20

=20

Caster, as much as you can find reasonably, 3.75~.  Put in FIRST

=20

Camber -1.25~.=20

=20

Toe 0-1/16 (kind of hard with the stock tie rod end set up, you either =
get 0 or 1/8 in or out).=20

=20

These settings have worn tires evenly (yes, even with the camber), made =
the car very autocross and open track friendly, and provided good =
straight line stability.

=20

Dale Says to use:  USE THESE

=20

Caster:  3-4 degress   shims - put on no matter what but .1 or .06 or 1 =
of each?.  Positive or negative?

=20

Camber: =C2=BC neg=20

=20

Toe:  0 to 1/16 out

=20

Factory:

=20

=20

Castor:  3.5 Positive

=20

Camber: =C2=BD Plus or minus =C2=BC positive=20

=20

Toe In: 1/8=E2=80=9D (3mm)

=20

Confusion:  SS shims .100=E2=80=9D thick FS58 and .060=E2=80=9D thick =
FS58M says they are for =E2=80=98camber=E2=80=99.  Are there castor =
shims as well or did I not take good notes?  15=E2=80=9D wheels on 205 x =
50 x15 tires =E2=80=93 used mainly on the street with 4 hour trips so =
need good straight line stability.

=20

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link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Joel<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0  The front alignment on the Tiger has =
always been a question mark to me.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>First you have to read the Shop Manual carefully and =
understand the Rootes alignment procedure.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Look at Section F, pg. 4 &amp; 5 =E2=80=93 the Rootes =
method =E2=80=93 fully laden car with gap gauges front and rear with 400 =
lbs. added weight at the front.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Has anyone =
ever used the Rootes method to set the alignment then removed the gap =
gauges and weight to see what the unladen alignment numbers look =
like?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Second, the Shop Manual alignment numbers are for the =
fully laden suspension.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Castor Angle =
=3D 3 degrees 50 minutes positive that =3D 3.8 degrees =
positive<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Camber Angle =3D 30 minutes =
positive, plus or minus 15 minutes<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Toe-in =3D 1/8 inch<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The desired =
setup numbers I have written down for the street with radial =
tire:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Castor =3D 3 to 4 degrees =
positive<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Camber =3D <span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>=C2=BC to =C2=BD</span> degree =
negative<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Toe-in =3D 1/16 =
inch<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>There is no indication if this =
is laden or unladen or exactly where I found these =
numbers.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Currently I=E2=80=99m not sure what my front alignment =
number are but I watch for uneven tire wear =E2=80=93 I have =
none.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I believe I have between 1 to 2 =
degrees negative camber and around 1/16 inch toe-in.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joel Martin =
via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 20, 2019 6:09 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger List Serve =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel =
Alignment<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><h1 =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Alignment =
Thoughts<o:p></o:p></span></h1><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98828"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Yes =
I am confused about which specs to take with me to the alignment =
shop.=C2=A0 Maybe the light bulb will go on with your help. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98830"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>&nbsp=
;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98831"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Repor=
ted: We didn't pay inordinate attention to the factory specs when =
aligning my Tiger last time, but went with numbers which were more =
conducive to performance. The set up has been: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98832"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>&nbsp=
;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98833"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Caste=
r, as much as you can find reasonably, 3.75~.=C2=A0 Put in =
FIRST<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98835"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>&nbsp=
;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98836"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Cambe=
r -1.25~. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98837"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>&nbsp=
;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98838"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Toe =
0-1/16 (kind of hard with the stock tie rod end set up, you either get 0 =
or 1/8 in or out). <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98839"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>&nbsp=
;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98840"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>These=
 settings have worn tires evenly (yes, even with the camber), made the =
car very autocross and open track friendly, and provided good straight =
line stability.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98841"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>&nbsp=
;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98842"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Dale =
Says to use: =C2=A0<b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98844">USE =
THESE</b><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98845"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>&nbsp=
;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98846"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Caste=
r:=C2=A0 3-4 degress=C2=A0=C2=A0 shims - put on no matter what but .1 or =
.06 or 1 of each?.&nbsp; Positive or =
negative?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98849"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>&nbsp=
;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98850"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Cambe=
r: =C2=BC neg <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98851"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>&nbsp=
;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98852"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Toe:=C2=
=A0 0 to 1/16 <b =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98854">out</b><o:p></o:p></span></p=
></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98855"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>&nbsp=
;</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'><o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98857"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Facto=
ry:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'><o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98859"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>&nbsp=
;</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'><o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98864"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>&nbsp=
;<img width=3D572 height=3D121 style=3D'width:5.9583in;height:1.2604in' =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98973" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" alt=3D"Inline =
image"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98865"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Casto=
r:=C2=A0 3.5 Positive<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98867"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>&nbsp=
;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98868"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Cambe=
r: =C2=BD Plus or minus =C2=BC positive <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98869"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>&nbsp=
;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98870"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Toe =
In: 1/8=E2=80=9D (3mm)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98871"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>&nbsp=
;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
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style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Confu=
sion:=C2=A0 SS shims .100=E2=80=9D thick FS58 and .060=E2=80=9D thick =
FS58M says they are for =E2=80=98camber=E2=80=99.=C2=A0 Are there castor =
shims as well or did I not take good notes?=C2=A0 15=E2=80=9D wheels on =
205 x 50 x15 tires =E2=80=93 used mainly on the street with 4 hour trips =
so need good straight line stability.<br =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98876"><br =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98877"><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'><o:p>=
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From: Tom Witt via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 11:13:21 -0700

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I=E2=80=99d think the shop manual setting are all but erased these days. Ti=
res are significantly different. Even driving expectations have changed. So=
metimes setting are to reduce tire wear as the #1 priority. Sometimes the s=
ettings are for steering factors such as ease of turning (especially with n=
on-power steering cars). And sometimes the settings are to compensate for d=
esign flaws.  While it has been stated that the toe out setting Dale recomm=
ends are for =E2=80=9Cturn in=E2=80=9D response I wonder (regardless of how=
 minor) if those setting also improve the horrible Ackerman the Tiger has. =
 My inclination would be that every Tiger is somewhat different as are the =
expectations of the driver. BTW, the heavier a driver you are the more it w=
ould seen a comparable weight be in the driver seat when setting.

Crossmember distortion and bolt head contact seem to be limitation with Cas=
ter.  I=E2=80=99d think today zero should be the minimum for Camber but lik=
ely something negative. And as mentioned Toe on a stock Tiger rack can ofte=
n be between one of two positions, neither ideal. Lastly I always find it i=
nteresting when Toe is give in inches (or millimeters). Really it is an ang=
le. In inches the tire/wheel diameter (large/small) will affect the angle. =
And..., where is the measurement point? At the wheel? At the tread? I=E2=80=
=99ve seem a lot of people use a tape measure at the tread and they are mea=
suring no where near the center (largest portion of) the tire diameter.  So=
, toe in inches can be rather ambiguous.

For any =E2=80=9CDo It Your Self=E2=80=9D types here is a toe gage I made o=
ut of a bed frame. One end is adjustable both at the lower rail, and at the=
 contact bolt for different tack widths. The vertical holes allow setting a=
t (or close to) the spindle height. The other end is not width adjustable b=
ut is height adjustable. The contact bolt is spring loaded so the gage can =
be moved around tire bulge and return to it previous setting. It is a compa=
rative device and given the small differences (typically 1/16 =3D .062) I u=
se feeler gages. Measurement is at the outer edge of the rim and in most ca=
ses I=E2=80=99m shooting for zero anyway..., maybe a hair toe in.

The Camber gage is purpose built for the 14=E2=80=9D wheels and body contou=
rs of my daily driver. The biggest problem is wind blowing the pendulum wei=
ght. Both the Toe and Camber gage cost me essentially nothing since I had t=
he materials lying around.

From: Ron Fraser via Tigers 
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 8:49 AM
To: 'Joel Martin' ; [email-masked] 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment

Joel

                The front alignment on the Tiger has always been a question=
 mark to me.

First you have to read the Shop Manual carefully and understand the Rootes =
alignment procedure.

Look at Section F, pg. 4 & 5 =E2=80=93 the Rootes method =E2=80=93 fully la=
den car with gap gauges front and rear with 400 lbs. added weight at the fr=
ont.

Has anyone ever used the Rootes method to set the alignment then removed th=
e gap gauges and weight to see what the unladen alignment numbers look like=
?

Second, the Shop Manual alignment numbers are for the fully laden suspensio=
n.

Castor Angle =3D 3 degrees 50 minutes positive that =3D 3.8 degrees positiv=
e

Toe-in =3D 1/8 inch

The desired setup numbers I have written down for the street with radial ti=
re:

Toe-in =3D 1/16 inch

There is no indication if this is laden or unladen or exactly where I found=
 these numbers.

Currently I=E2=80=99m not sure what my front alignment number are but I wat=
ch for uneven tire wear =E2=80=93 I have none.

I believe I have between 1 to 2 degrees negative camber and around 1/16 inc=
h toe-in.

Ron Fraser

From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Joel Martin via T=
igers
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 6:09 PM
To: Tiger List Serve <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment

Alignment Thoughts
Yes I am confused about which specs to take with me to the alignment shop. =
 Maybe the light bulb will go on with your help. 

Reported: We didn't pay inordinate attention to the factory specs when alig=
ning my Tiger last time, but went with numbers which were more conducive to=
 performance. The set up has been: 

Camber -1.25~. 

Toe 0-1/16 (kind of hard with the stock tie rod end set up, you either get =
0 or 1/8 in or out). 

These settings have worn tires evenly (yes, even with the camber), made the=
 car very autocross and open track friendly, and provided good straight lin=
e stability.

Caster:  3-4 degress   shims - put on no matter what but .1 or 06 or 1 of e=
ach?.  Positive or negative?

Camber: =C2=BC neg 

Toe:  0 to 1/16 out

Factory:

Castor:  3.5 Positive

Camber: =C2=BD Plus or minus =C2=BC positive 

Confusion:  SS shims .100=E2=80=9D thick FS58 and .060=E2=80=9D thick FS58M=
 says they are for =E2=80=98camber=E2=80=99.  Are there castor shims as wel=
l or did I not take good notes?  15=E2=80=9D wheels on 205 x 50 x15 tires =
=E2=80=93 used mainly on the street with 4 hour trips so need good straight=
 line stability.

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<DIV>I=E2=80=99d think the shop manual setting are all but erased these day=
s. Tires are 
significantly different. Even driving expectations have changed. Sometimes =

setting are to reduce tire wear as the #1 priority. Sometimes the settings =
are 
for steering factors such as ease of turning (especially with non-power ste=
ering 
cars). And sometimes the settings are to compensate for design flaws.&nbsp;=
 
While it has been stated that the toe out setting Dale recommends are for =
=E2=80=9Cturn 
in=E2=80=9D response I wonder (regardless of how minor) if those setting al=
so improve 
the horrible Ackerman the Tiger has.&nbsp; My inclination would be that eve=
ry 
Tiger is somewhat different as are the expectations of the driver. BTW, the=
 
heavier a driver you are the more it would seen a comparable weight be in t=
he 
driver seat when setting.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Crossmember distortion and bolt head contact seem to be limitation wit=
h 
Caster.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99d think today zero should be the minimum for Camber=
 but likely 
something negative. And as mentioned Toe on a stock Tiger rack can often be=
 
between one of two positions, neither ideal. Lastly I always find it intere=
sting 
when Toe is give in inches (or millimeters). Really it is an angle. In inch=
es 
the tire/wheel diameter (large/small) will affect the angle. And..., where =
is 
the measurement point? At the wheel? At the tread? I=E2=80=99ve seem a lot =
of people use 
a tape measure at the tread and they are measuring no where near the center=
 
(largest portion of) the tire diameter.&nbsp; So, toe in inches can be rath=
er 
ambiguous.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>For any =E2=80=9CDo It Your Self=E2=80=9D types here is a toe gage I m=
ade out of a bed 
frame. One end is adjustable both at the lower rail, and at the contact bol=
t for 
different tack widths. The vertical holes allow setting at (or close to) th=
e 
spindle height. The other end is not width adjustable but is height adjusta=
ble. 
The contact bolt is spring loaded so the gage can be moved around tire bulg=
e and 
return to it previous setting. It is a comparative device and given the sma=
ll 
differences (typically 1/16 =3D .062) I use feeler gages. Measurement is at=
 the 
outer edge of the rim and in most cases I=E2=80=99m shooting for zero anywa=
y..., maybe a 
hair toe in.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The Camber gage is purpose built for the 14=E2=80=9D wheels and body c=
ontours of my 
daily driver. The biggest problem is wind blowing the pendulum weight. Both=
 the 
Toe and Camber gage cost me essentially nothing since I had the materials l=
ying 
around.</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=[email-masked].=
net 
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Ron Fraser via Tigers</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 21, 2019 8:49 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked] 
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">'Joel Martin'</A> ; <A 
title=[email-masked] 
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment</DIV></DIV></DIV=
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; F=
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<DIV class=3DWordSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Joel<o:p></o:p></P>
<P 
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
The front alignment on the Tiger has always been a question mark to 
me.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>First you have to read the Shop Manual carefully and 
understand the Rootes alignment procedure.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Look at Section F, pg. 4 &amp; 5 =E2=80=93 the Rootes =
method =E2=80=93 fully 
laden car with gap gauges front and rear with 400 lbs. added weight at the =

front.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Has anyone ever used the Rootes method to set the alig=
nment 
then removed the gap gauges and weight to see what the unladen alignment nu=
mbers 
look like?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Second, the Shop Manual alignment numbers are for the =
fully 
laden suspension.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Castor Angle =3D 3 degrees 50 minutes positive that =
=3D 3.8 
degrees positive<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Camber Angle =3D 30 minutes positive, plus or minus 15=
 
minutes<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Toe-in =3D 1/8 inch<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>The desired setup numbers I have written down for the =
street 
with radial tire:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Castor =3D 3 to 4 degrees positive<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Camber =3D <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt">=C2=BC to =
=C2=BD</SPAN> degree 
negative<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Toe-in =3D 1/16 inch<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>There is no indication if this is laden or unladen or =
exactly 
where I found these numbers.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Currently I=E2=80=99m not sure what my front alignment=
 number are but 
I watch for uneven tire wear =E2=80=93 I have none.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>I believe I have between 1 to 2 degrees negative cambe=
r and 
around 1/16 inch toe-in.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<DIV>
<DIV 
style=3D"BORDER-TOP: #e1e1e1 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-B=
OTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0i=
n; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in">
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B>From:</B> Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&=
gt; 
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Joel Martin via Tigers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March=
 20, 
2019 6:09 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Tiger List Serve 
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel 
Alignment<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<DIV>
<H1 style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>Alignment 
Thoughts<o:p></o:p></SPAN></H1>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98828>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>Yes =
I am 
confused about which specs to take with me to the alignment shop.&nbsp; May=
be 
the light bulb will go on with your help. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98830>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98831>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>Repo=
rted: 
We didn't pay inordinate attention to the factory specs when aligning my Ti=
ger 
last time, but went with numbers which were more conducive to performance. =
The 
set up has been: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98832>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98833>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>Cast=
er, as 
much as you can find reasonably, 3.75~.&nbsp; Put in 
FIRST<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98835>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98836>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>Camb=
er 
-1.25~. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98837>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98838>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>Toe =
0-1/16 
(kind of hard with the stock tie rod end set up, you either get 0 or 1/8 in=
 or 
out). <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98839>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98840>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>Thes=
e 
settings have worn tires evenly (yes, even with the camber), made the car v=
ery 
autocross and open track friendly, and provided good straight line 
stability.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98841>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98842>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>Dale=
 Says 
to use:&nbsp; <B id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98844>USE 
THESE</B><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98845>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98846>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>Cast=
er:&nbsp; 
3-4 degress&nbsp;&nbsp; shims - put on no matter what but .1 or 06 or 1 of =

each?.&nbsp; Positive or negative?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98849>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98850>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>Camb=
er: =C2=BC 
neg <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98851>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98852>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>Toe:=
&nbsp; 
0 to 1/16 <B 
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98854>out</B><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></D=
IV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98855>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><B><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>&nbs=
p;</SPAN></B><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'><o:p=
></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98857>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><B><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>Fact=
ory:</SPAN></B><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'><o:p=
></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98859>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><B><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>&nbs=
p;</SPAN></B><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'><o:p=
></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98864>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>&nbs=
p;<IMG 
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98973 style=3D"HEIGHT: 1.26in; WIDTH: =
5.958in" 
alt=3D"Inline image" src=3D"cid:32856EE4A2BC467AA81E4637B9F83424@user1PC" w=
idth=3D572 
height=3D121><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98865>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>Cast=
or:&nbsp; 
3.5 Positive<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98867>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98868>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>Camb=
er: =C2=BD 
Plus or minus =C2=BC positive <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98869>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98870>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>Toe =
In: 
1/8=E2=80=9D (3mm)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98871>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98872>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN 
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'>Conf=
usion:&nbsp; 
SS shims .100=E2=80=9D thick FS58 and .060=E2=80=9D thick FS58M says they a=
re for 
=E2=80=98camber=E2=80=99.&nbsp; Are there castor shims as well or did I not=
 take good 
notes?&nbsp; 15=E2=80=9D wheels on 205 x 50 x15 tires =E2=80=93 used mainly=
 on the street with 4 
hour trips so need good straight line stability.<BR 
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98876><BR 
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553074082470_98877><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>=

<DIV>
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style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Garamond",serif; COLOR: black'><o:p=
></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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