Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 11, Issue 111alignment comments

From: clyde mclaughlin via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 00:13:17 +0000 (UTC)

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just a couple comments about the wheel alignment current discussion...almos=
t all auto manufactures have recommended weight applications for doing an a=
lignment, you would have to look far and wide to find a shop that does it, =
that being said most experienced techs can align the vehicle to perform wel=
l and obtain acceptable tire wear..secondly I can't comment on toe out as i=
t pertains to a Tiger, =C2=A0but I can tell you that in my experience with =
regular modern passenger cars today the toe out condition usually causes th=
e car to not tract very well and it will dart from side to side with steeri=
ng input, and if excessive will cause abnormal tire wear to the inside edge=
..specialty shops for performance modern cars probably will weight the car =
to the drivers average occupancy of the car, I worked in a Porsche shop man=
y years ago and we did it, but most of those cars had suspension mods for a=
uto cross and track days....today when I do my cars at the shop I sit in th=
e drivers seat for for final settings..members out there could probably do =
that at your local tire shop, =C2=A0just ask

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 11:13:21 -0700
From: "Tom Witt" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment

I?d think the shop manual setting are all but erased these days. Tires are =
significantly different. Even driving expectations have changed. Sometimes =
setting are to reduce tire wear as the #1 priority. Sometimes the settings =
are for steering factors such as ease of turning (especially with non-power=
 steering cars). And sometimes the settings are to compensate for design fl=
aws.=C2=A0 While it has been stated that the toe out setting Dale recommend=
s are for ?turn in? response I wonder (regardless of how minor) if those se=
tting also improve the horrible Ackerman the Tiger has.=C2=A0 My inclinatio=
n would be that every Tiger is somewhat different as are the expectations o=
f the driver. BTW, the heavier a driver you are the more it would seen a co=
mparable weight be in the driver seat when setting.

Crossmember distortion and bolt head contact seem to be limitation with Cas=
ter.=C2=A0 I?d think today zero should be the minimum for Camber but likely=
 something negative. And as mentioned Toe on a stock Tiger rack can often b=
e between one of two positions, neither ideal. Lastly I always find it inte=
resting when Toe is give in inches (or millimeters). Really it is an angle.=
 In inches the tire/wheel diameter (large/small) will affect the angle. And=
..., where is the measurement point? At the wheel? At the tread? I?ve seem =
a lot of people use a tape measure at the tread and they are measuring no w=
here near the center (largest portion of) the tire diameter.=C2=A0 So, toe =
in inches can be rather ambiguous.

For any ?Do It Your Self? types here is a toe gage I made out of a bed fram=
e. One end is adjustable both at the lower rail, and at the contact bolt fo=
r different tack widths. The vertical holes allow setting at (or close to) =
the spindle height. The other end is not width adjustable but is height adj=
ustable. The contact bolt is spring loaded so the gage can be moved around =
tire bulge and return to it previous setting. It is a comparative device an=
d given the small differences (typically 1/16 =3D .062) I use feeler gages.=
 Measurement is at the outer edge of the rim and in most cases I?m shooting=
 for zero anyway..., maybe a hair toe in.

The Camber gage is purpose built for the 14? wheels and body contours of my=
 daily driver. The biggest problem is wind blowing the pendulum weight. Bot=
h the Toe and Camber gage cost me essentially nothing since I had the mater=
ials lying around.

From: Ron Fraser via Tigers=20
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 8:49 AM
To: 'Joel Martin' ; [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment

Joel

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The front alignment=
 on the Tiger has always been a question mark to me.

First you have to read the Shop Manual carefully and understand the Rootes =
alignment procedure.

Look at Section F, pg. 4 & 5 ? the Rootes method ? fully laden car with gap=
 gauges front and rear with 400 lbs. added weight at the front.

=20

Has anyone ever used the Rootes method to set the alignment then removed th=
e gap gauges and weight to see what the unladen alignment numbers look like=
?

=20

Second, the Shop Manual alignment numbers are for the fully laden suspensio=
n.

Castor Angle =3D 3 degrees 50 minutes positive that =3D 3.8 degrees positiv=
e

Camber Angle =3D 30 minutes positive, plus or minus 15 minutes

Toe-in =3D 1/8 inch

=20

The desired setup numbers I have written down for the street with radial ti=
re:

Castor =3D 3 to 4 degrees positive

Camber =3D ? to ? degree negative

Toe-in =3D 1/16 inch

There is no indication if this is laden or unladen or exactly where I found=
 these numbers.

=20

Currently I?m not sure what my front alignment number are but I watch for u=
neven tire wear ? I have none.

I believe I have between 1 to 2 degrees negative camber and around 1/16 inc=
h toe-in.

=20

Ron Fraser

=20

=20

=20

From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Joel Martin via T=
igers
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 6:09 PM
To: Tiger List Serve <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment

=20

Alignment Thoughts
Yes I am confused about which specs to take with me to the alignment shop.=
=C2=A0 Maybe the light bulb will go on with your help.=20

=20

Reported: We didn't pay inordinate attention to the factory specs when alig=
ning my Tiger last time, but went with numbers which were more conducive to=
 performance. The set up has been:=20

=20

Caster, as much as you can find reasonably, 3.75~.=C2=A0 Put in FIRST

=20

Camber -1.25~.=20

=20

Toe 0-1/16 (kind of hard with the stock tie rod end set up, you either get =
0 or 1/8 in or out).=20

=20

These settings have worn tires evenly (yes, even with the camber), made the=
 car very autocross and open track friendly, and provided good straight lin=
e stability.

=20

Dale Says to use:=C2=A0 USE THESE

=20

Caster:=C2=A0 3-4 degress=C2=A0 shims - put on no matter what but .1 or 06 =
or 1 of each?.=C2=A0 Positive or negative?

=20

Camber: ? neg=20

=20

Toe:=C2=A0 0 to 1/16 out

=20

Factory:

=20

=20

Castor:=C2=A0 3.5 Positive

=20

Camber: ? Plus or minus ? positive=20

=20

Toe In: 1/8? (3mm)

=20

Confusion:=C2=A0 SS shims .100? thick FS58 and .060? thick FS58M says they =
are for ?camber?.=C2=A0 Are there castor shims as well or did I not take go=
od notes?=C2=A0 15? wheels on 205 x 50 x15 tires ? used mainly on the stree=
t with 4 hour trips so need good straight line stability.

=20

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<font color=3D'black' size=3D'2' face=3D'arial'>just a couple comments abou=
t the wheel alignment current discussion...almost all auto manufactures hav=
e recommended weight applications for doing an alignment, you would have to=
 look far and wide to find a shop that does it, that being said most experi=
enced techs can align the vehicle to perform well and obtain acceptable tir=
e wear..secondly I can't comment on toe out as it pertains to a Tiger, &nbs=
p;but I can tell you that in my experience with regular modern passenger ca=
rs today the toe out condition usually causes the car to not tract very wel=
l and it will dart from side to side with steering input, and if excessive =
will cause abnormal tire wear to the inside edge..specialty shops for perfo=
rmance modern cars probably will weight the car to the drivers average occu=
pancy of the car, I worked in a Porsche shop many years ago and we did it, =
but most of those cars had suspension mods for auto cross and track days...=
.today when I do my cars at the shop I sit in the drivers seat for for fina=
l settings..members out there could probably do that at your local tire sho=
p, &nbsp;just ask
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  1. Re: 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment (Tom Witt)<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">From: "Tom Witt" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:atwittsend@veriz=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:5E52898FA1844B268CFB0=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">I?d think the shop manual setting are all but erased these=
 days. Tires are significantly different. Even driving expectations have ch=
anged. Sometimes setting are to reduce tire wear as the #1 priority. Someti=
mes the settings are for steering factors such as ease of turning (especial=
ly with non-power steering cars). And sometimes the settings are to compens=
ate for design flaws.&nbsp; While it has been stated that the toe out setti=
ng Dale recommends are for ?turn in? response I wonder (regardless of how m=
inor) if those setting also improve the horrible Ackerman the Tiger has.&nb=
sp; My inclination would be that every Tiger is somewhat different as are t=
he expectations of the driver. BTW, the heavier a driver you are the more i=
t would seen a comparable weight be in the driver seat when setting.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Crossmember distortion and bolt head contact seem to be li=
mitation with Caster.&nbsp; I?d think today zero should be the minimum for =
Camber but likely something negative. And as mentioned Toe on a stock Tiger=
 rack can often be between one of two positions, neither ideal. Lastly I al=
ways find it interesting when Toe is give in inches (or millimeters). Reall=
y it is an angle. In inches the tire/wheel diameter (large/small) will affe=
ct the angle. And..., where is the measurement point? At the wheel? At the =
tread? I?ve seem a lot of people use a tape measure at the tread and they a=
re measuring no where near the center (largest portion of) the tire diamete=
r.&nbsp; So, toe in inches can be rather ambiguous.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">For any ?Do It Your Self? types here is a toe gage I made =
out of a bed frame. One end is adjustable both at the lower rail, and at th=
e contact bolt for different tack widths. The vertical holes allow setting =
at (or close to) the spindle height. The other end is not width adjustable =
but is height adjustable. The contact bolt is spring loaded so the gage can=
 be moved around tire bulge and return to it previous setting. It is a comp=
arative device and given the small differences (typically 1/16 =3D .062) I =
use feeler gages. Measurement is at the outer edge of the rim and in most c=
ases I?m shooting for zero anyway..., maybe a hair toe in.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">The Camber gage is purpose built for the 14? wheels and bo=
dy contours of my daily driver. The biggest problem is wind blowing the pen=
dulum weight. Both the Toe and Camber gage cost me essentially nothing sinc=
e I had the materials lying around.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 8:49 AM<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">To: 'Joel Martin' ; <a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.Net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tig=
[email-masked]</a> <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Joel<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Th=
e front alignment on the Tiger has always been a question mark to me.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">First you have to read the Shop Manual carefully and under=
stand the Rootes alignment procedure.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Look at Section F, pg. 4 &amp; 5 ? the Rootes method ? ful=
ly laden car with gap gauges front and rear with 400 lbs. added weight at t=
he front.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"> <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Has anyone ever used the Rootes method to set the alignmen=
t then removed the gap gauges and weight to see what the unladen alignment =
numbers look like?<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"> <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Second, the Shop Manual alignment numbers are for the full=
y laden suspension.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Castor Angle =3D 3 degrees 50 minutes positive that =3D 3.=
8 degrees positive<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Camber Angle =3D 30 minutes positive, plus or minus 15 min=
utes<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Toe-in =3D 1/8 inch<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"> <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">The desired setup numbers I have written down for the stre=
et with radial tire:<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Castor =3D 3 to 4 degrees positive<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Camber =3D ? to ? degree negative<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Toe-in =3D 1/16 inch<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">There is no indication if this is laden or unladen or exac=
tly where I found these numbers.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"> <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Currently I?m not sure what my front alignment number are =
but I watch for uneven tire wear ? I have none.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">I believe I have between 1 to 2 degrees negative camber an=
d around 1/16 inch toe-in.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"> <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Ron Fraser<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"> <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"> <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"> <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">From: Tigers &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox=
.team.net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.=
team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Joel Martin vi=
a Tigers<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 6:09 PM<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">To: Tiger List Serve &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox=
.team.net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Tigers] 66 MK 1A Wheel Alignment<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"> <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Alignment Thoughts<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes I am confused about which specs to take with me to the=
 alignment shop.&nbsp; Maybe the light bulb will go on with your help. <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"> <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Reported: We didn't pay inordinate attention to the factor=
y specs when aligning my Tiger last time, but went with numbers which were =
more conducive to performance. The set up has been: <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"> <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Caster, as much as you can find reasonably, 3.75~.&nbsp; P=
ut in FIRST<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"> <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Camber -1.25~. <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"> <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Toe 0-1/16 (kind of hard with the stock tie rod end set up=
, you either get 0 or 1/8 in or out). <br>
</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">These settings have worn tires evenly (yes, even with the =
camber), made the car very autocross and open track friendly, and provided =
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Toe:&nbsp; 0 to 1/16 out<br>
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did I not take good notes?&nbsp; 15? wheels on 205 x 50 x15 tires ? used ma=
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