Subject: [Tigers] Garage Floor Coating

From: Gary via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 00:29:52 +0000 (UTC)

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I am almost finish with my shop and want to epoxy coat the floor. Any experience with various coatings and recommendations would be welcomed.
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Gary and friends:=20

I used Rustoleum two part epoxy floor paint about 10 years ago. I=E2=80=99m quite=
 satisfied; it is rugged and looks nice with the =E2=80=9Ccolor chips=E2=80=9D that you =
sprinkle onto the epoxy before it hardens. There is no spot where this coati=
ng lifted, but I need to say that I applied it on 6 month old concrete and I=
 carefully scrubbed the concrete with the citrus cleaner that was part of th=
e Rustoleum kit. Cleanliness of the concrete is important.

I=E2=80=99ll attach one photo I took around 2005 to let you get an idea of what i=
t looks like.

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Don Antilla=20

Southbury, CT

203-264-8301 Home

203-592-8427 Cell

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Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 7:29 PM
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Subject: [Tigers] Garage Floor Coating

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I am almost finish with my shop and want to epoxy coat the floor. Any exper=
ience with various coatings and recommendations would be welcomed.

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s=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:=
"Arial",sans-serif'>Gary and friends: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I used Rust=
oleum two part epoxy floor paint about 10 years ago. I=E2=80=99m quite satisfied; =
it is rugged and looks nice with the =E2=80=9Ccolor chips=E2=80=9D that you sprinkle ont=
o the epoxy before it hardens. There is no spot where this coating lifted, b=
ut I need to say that I applied it on 6 month old concrete and I carefully s=
crubbed the concrete with the citrus cleaner that was part of the Rustoleum =
kit. Cleanliness of the concrete is important.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I=E2=80=
=99ll attach one photo I took around 2005 to let you get an idea of what it lo=
oks like.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.=
0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><i><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Don Antilla <o:p></o:p></span>=
</i></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><i><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Southbury, CT<o=
:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><i><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'=
>203-264-8301 Home<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><i><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>203-592-8427 Cell<o:p></o:p></span></i></p></div><p cla=
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n style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Tigers &lt;[email-masked].=
net&gt; on behalf of Gary via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Rep=
ly-To: </b>Gary &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, Novem=
ber 6, 2018 at 7:29 PM<br><b>To: </b>&quot;[email-masked]&quot; &lt;t=
[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject: </b>[Tigers] Garage Floor Coating<o:=
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ue";color:black'>I am almost finish with my shop and want to epoxy coat the =
floor. Any experience with various coatings and recommendations would be wel=
comed.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1541536176933_9=
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 10:11:24 -0500 (EST)

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Hey, Gary:

I've had a little experience with both petroleum-based two-part epoxy floor paint and water-based two-part epoxy floor paint.  After following the directions to the letter in both situations with regards to floor prep (which is monumentally important), the long term results were completely different between the two products.  Bear in mind that both floors were no more than three months old when I applied the paint.

The floor that took the petroleum-based paint still looks good to this day, even after all the abuse it's taken over the years.  Man, it would take a jack hammer to get the paint off that floor!!!  The floor that took the water-based paint, however, didn't fare so well after time.  True enough, the water-based paint was the easier of the two to apply and they both looked fantastic after they were finished.  However, the water-based floor simply did not stand up to the abuse that the petroleum-based floor seemed to take with apparent ease.  The first time I dropped a wrench on it, it chipped the paint...and it got worse from there.  I was so disgusted with it all that I ended up putting RaceDeck down over the water-based floor.  So far, the RaceDeck has performed beyond expectations and I would recommend it as a possible option for you if you were inclined to look at that sort of product.  

Best of luck with your decision and post some pics when you're done!!!

Take care,

Andy Walker

Edmond, OK

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</head><body><p>Hey, Gary:</p><p><br></p><p>I&#39;ve had a little experienc=
e with both petroleum-based two-part epoxy floor paint and water-based two-=
part epoxy floor paint.&#160; After following the directions to the letter =
in both situations with regards to floor prep (which is monumentally import=
ant), the long term results were completely different between the two produ=
cts.&#160; Bear in mind that both floors were no more than three months old=
 when I applied the paint.</p><p>The floor that took the petroleum-based pa=
int still looks good to this day, even after all the abuse it&#39;s taken o=
ver the years.&#160; Man, it would take a jack hammer to get the paint off =
that floor!!!&#160; The floor that took the water-based paint, however, did=
n&#39;t fare so well after time.&#160; True enough, the water-based paint w=
as the easier of the two to apply and they both looked fantastic after they=
 were finished.&#160; However, the water-based floor simply did not stand u=
p to the abuse that the petroleum-based floor seemed to take with apparent =
ease.&#160; The first time I dropped a wrench on it, it chipped the paint..=
.and it got worse from there.&#160; I was so disgusted with it all that I e=
nded up putting RaceDeck down over the water-based floor.&#160; So far, the=
 RaceDeck has performed beyond expectations and I would recommend it as a p=
ossible option for you if you were inclined to look at that sort of product=
.&#160;&#160;</p><p>Best of luck with your decision and post some pics when=
 you&#39;re done!!!</p><p>Take care,</p><p>Andy Walker</p><p>Edmond, OK</p>=
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From: Tom Witt via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 07:55:06 -0800

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I=E2=80=99d agree about the cleanliness. I have a shed with various concret=
e pours as a floor.  One section had a coarse concrete that seemed rather d=
amp at times. I attributed this to porosity.  I used a product called =E2=
=80=9CDrylok=E2=80=9D over the whole floor before I did the epoxy coating. =
Within 6 months the coarse half of the room had lifted in as large as 4=E2=
=80=9D sheets. Now I have more of a mess on my hands that when I started. I=
 don=E2=80=99t blame the epoxy coating, but rather the Drylok that I =E2=80=
=98thought=E2=80=99 would be a benefit.

I think the epoxy product has a high scuff value. So with good adhesion it =
should be durable. But if you have dampness or oil spots they need to be de=
alt with properly.  There is something on my garage floor that causes water=
 to bead on the seemingly raw concrete. The previous owner ran a machine sh=
op in the garage.  My guess is that spilled coolant, cutting oil etc. is em=
bedded in the concrete and it is not a good candidate for epoxy coatings.

Rustoleum probably has a moisture limit for application and I believe there=
 are means to test the percentage. You might consult their site for more in=
formation. If you shop is new, has a vapor barrier, good drainage away from=
 the property and you live in a low humidity climate these concerns are pro=
bably mote. 

From: Gary via Tigers 
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 4:29 PM
To: [email-masked] 
Subject: [Tigers] Garage Floor Coating

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ncrete pours 
as a floor.&nbsp; One section had a coarse concrete that seemed rather damp=
 at 
times. I attributed this to porosity.&nbsp; I used a product called =E2=80=
=9CDrylok=E2=80=9D 
over the whole floor before I did the epoxy coating. Within 6 months the co=
arse 
half of the room had lifted in as large as 4=E2=80=9D sheets. Now I have mo=
re of a mess 
on my hands that when I started. I don=E2=80=99t blame the epoxy coating, b=
ut rather the 
Drylok that I =E2=80=98thought=E2=80=99 would be a benefit.</DIV>
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<DIV>I think the epoxy product has a high scuff value. So with good adhesio=
n it 
should be durable. But if you have dampness or oil spots they need to be de=
alt 
with properly.&nbsp; There is something on my garage floor that causes wate=
r to 
bead on the seemingly raw concrete. The previous owner ran a machine shop i=
n the 
garage.&nbsp; My guess is that spilled coolant, cutting oil etc. is embedde=
d in 
the concrete and it is not a good candidate for epoxy coatings.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Rustoleum probably has a moisture limit for application and I believe =
there 
are means to test the percentage. You might consult their site for more 
information. If you shop is new, has a vapor barrier, good drainage away fr=
om 
the property and you live in a low humidity climate these concerns are prob=
ably 
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From: Douglas Lyle via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 17:40:37 +0000 (UTC)

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 Too many oil and brake fluid contaminants on my floor so I went with the R=
aceDeck.=C2=A0 Simple to install and cleans up easy.=C2=A0=C2=A0 If a tile =
gets damaged you can just replace it. =C2=A0 Hides all the small cracks too=
 which is difficult to do with epoxy. =C2=A0 A few pictures attached below.
I was scared away from the epoxy route after seeing so many coated floors t=
hat had sections lift from wet tires or tool drops.=C2=A0 Prep is key but i=
f you've got an old floor that can be difficult. =C2=A0=C2=A0 I have a frie=
nd who has one that is perfect and has lasted but he paid an obscene amount=
 and it was professionally applied.=C2=A0=20

Doug=20

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 I=E2=80=99d agree about the cleanliness. I have a shed with various concre=
te poursas a floor.=C2=A0 One section had a coarse concrete that seemed rat=
her damp attimes. I attributed this to porosity.=C2=A0 I used a product cal=
led =E2=80=9CDrylok=E2=80=9Dover the whole floor before I did the epoxy coa=
ting. Within 6 months the coarsehalf of the room had lifted in as large as =
4=E2=80=9D sheets. Now I have more of a messon my hands that when I started=
. I don=E2=80=99t blame the epoxy coating, but rather theDrylok that I =E2=
=80=98thought=E2=80=99 would be a benefit.=C2=A0I think the epoxy product h=
as a high scuff value. So with good adhesion itshould be durable. But if yo=
u have dampness or oil spots they need to be dealtwith properly.=C2=A0 Ther=
e is something on my garage floor that causes water tobead on the seemingly=
 raw concrete. The previous owner ran a machine shop in thegarage.=C2=A0 My=
 guess is that spilled coolant, cutting oil etc. is embedded inthe concrete=
 and it is not a good candidate for epoxy coatings.=C2=A0Rustoleum probably=
 has a moisture limit for application and I believe thereare means to test =
the percentage. You might consult their site for moreinformation. If you sh=
op is new, has a vapor barrier, good drainage away fromthe property and you=
 live in a low humidity climate these concerns are probablymote. =C2=A0From=
: Gary via Tigers Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 4:29 PMTo: tigers@autox.=
team.net Subject: [Tigers] Garage Floor Coating=C2=A0I am almost finish wit=
h my shopand want to epoxy coat the floor. Any experience with various coat=
ings and recommendations would be welcomed.=C2=A0GaryB392000435B392001405

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        <div>Too many oil and brake fluid contaminants on my floor so I wen=
t with the RaceDeck.&nbsp; Simple to install and cleans up easy.&nbsp;&nbsp=
; If a tile gets damaged you can just replace it. &nbsp; Hides all the smal=
l cracks too which is difficult to do with epoxy. &nbsp; A few pictures att=
ached below.</div><div><br></div><div>I was scared away from the epoxy rout=
e after seeing so many coated floors that had sections lift from wet tires =
or tool drops.&nbsp; Prep is key but if you've got an old floor that can be=
 difficult. &nbsp;&nbsp; I have a friend who has one that is perfect and ha=
s lasted but he paid an obscene amount and it was professionally applied.&n=
bsp; <br></div><div><br></div><div>Doug <br></div><div><br></div><div><br><=
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                    On Wednesday, November 7, 2018, 8:56:54 AM PST, Tom Wit=
t via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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<div>I=E2=80=99d agree about the cleanliness. I have a shed with various co=
ncrete pours
as a floor.&nbsp; One section had a coarse concrete that seemed rather damp=
 at
times. I attributed this to porosity.&nbsp; I used a product called =E2=80=
=9CDrylok=E2=80=9D
over the whole floor before I did the epoxy coating. Within 6 months the co=
arse
half of the room had lifted in as large as 4=E2=80=9D sheets. Now I have mo=
re of a mess
on my hands that when I started. I don=E2=80=99t blame the epoxy coating, b=
ut rather the
Drylok that I =E2=80=98thought=E2=80=99 would be a benefit.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I think the epoxy product has a high scuff value. So with good adhesio=
n it
should be durable. But if you have dampness or oil spots they need to be de=
alt
with properly.&nbsp; There is something on my garage floor that causes wate=
r to
bead on the seemingly raw concrete. The previous owner ran a machine shop i=
n the
garage.&nbsp; My guess is that spilled coolant, cutting oil etc. is embedde=
d in
the concrete and it is not a good candidate for epoxy coatings.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Rustoleum probably has a moisture limit for application and I believe =
there
are means to test the percentage. You might consult their site for more
information. If you shop is new, has a vapor barrier, good drainage away fr=
om
the property and you live in a low humidity climate these concerns are prob=
ably
mote. </div>
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"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">Gary via =
Tigers</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 06, 2018 4:29 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a shape=3D"rect" title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@auto=
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I used the Behr 2-part epoxy on my floor when it was new (about 12 years ag=
o now). I waited for the floor to age about a month, then etched it using t=
he provided (muriatic acid ?) agent, and applied the epoxy. The only stuff =
that has removed it in spots is battery acid, and where I accidentally left=
 some brake fluid sitting on the floor, it eventually lifted when I also pa=
rked the car on it. Tough stuff and I'd use it again.=20

Theo=20

From: "tigers" <[email-masked]>=20
To: "Gary" <[email-masked]>, "tigers" <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 6:56:53 AM=20
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Garage Floor Coating=20

Gary and friends:=20

I used Rustoleum two part epoxy floor paint about 10 years ago. I=E2=80=99m=
 quite satisfied; it is rugged and looks nice with the =E2=80=9Ccolor chips=
=E2=80=9D that you sprinkle onto the epoxy before it hardens. There is no s=
pot where this coating lifted, but I need to say that I applied it on 6 mon=
th old concrete and I carefully scrubbed the concrete with the citrus clean=
er that was part of the Rustoleum kit. Cleanliness of the concrete is impor=
tant.=20

I=E2=80=99ll attach one photo I took around 2005 to let you get an idea of =
what it looks like.=20

Don Antilla=20

Southbury, CT=20

203-264-8301 Home=20

203-592-8427 Cell=20

From: Tigers <[email-masked]> on behalf of Gary via Tigers <=
[email-masked]>=20
Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 7:29 PM=20
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>=20
Subject: [Tigers] Garage Floor Coating=20

I am almost finish with my shop and want to epoxy coat the floor. Any exper=
ience with various coatings and recommendations would be welcomed.=20

Gary=20

B392000435=20

B392001405=20

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 10pt; color: #000000"><div>I used the Behr 2-part epoxy on my floor wh=
en it was new (about 12 years ago now). I waited for the floor to age about=
 a month, then etched it using the provided (muriatic acid ?) agent, and ap=
plied the epoxy. The only stuff that has removed it in spots is battery aci=
d, and where I accidentally left some brake fluid sitting on the floor, it =
eventually lifted when I also parked the car on it. Tough stuff and I'd use=
 it again.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Theo</div><div><br=
></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__H=
EADERS__"><b>From: </b>"tigers" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>To: </b=
>"Gary" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, "tigers" &lt;[email-masked]&g=
t;<br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, November 7, 2018 6:56:53 AM<br><b>Subject: </=
b>Re: [Tigers] Garage Floor Coating<br></div><br><div data-marker=3D"__QUOT=
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rial',sans-serif;">I used Rustoleum two part epoxy floor paint about 10 yea=
rs ago. I=E2=80=99m quite satisfied; it is rugged and looks nice with the =
=E2=80=9Ccolor chips=E2=80=9D that you sprinkle onto the epoxy before it ha=
rdens. There is no spot where this coating lifted, but I need to say that I=
 applied it on 6 month old concrete and I carefully scrubbed the concrete w=
ith the citrus cleaner that was part of the Rustoleum kit. Cleanliness of t=
he concrete is important.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
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m&gt;<br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 7:29 PM<br><b>To: </b>"t=
[email-masked]" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject: </b>[Tig=
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the floor. Any experience with various coatings and recommendations would b=
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From: Mark J Bradakis via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 12:13:18 -0700

On 11/6/18 5:29 PM, Gary via Tigers wrote:
> I am almost finish with my shop and want to epoxy coat the floor. Any 
> experience with various coatings and recommendations would be welcomed.

Go to http://autox.team.net/archive and search the shop talk list 
archives.  The topic has been discussed over the years.

mjb.

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Outstanding floor, Doug!!!

Andy Walker

Edmond, OK

> On November 7, 2018 at 12:40 PM Douglas Lyle via Tigers <[email-masked]=
m.net> wrote:
>=20
>     =20
>     Too many oil and brake fluid contaminants on my floor so I went with =
the RaceDeck.  Simple to install and cleans up easy.   If a tile gets damag=
ed you can just replace it.   Hides all the small cracks too which is diffi=
cult to do with epoxy.   A few pictures attached below.
>=20
>     I was scared away from the epoxy route after seeing so many coated fl=
oors that had sections lift from wet tires or tool drops.  Prep is key but =
if you've got an old floor that can be difficult.    I have a friend who ha=
s one that is perfect and has lasted but he paid an obscene amount and it w=
as professionally applied.=20
>=20
>     Doug
>=20
>=20
>=20
>     On Wednesday, November 7, 2018, 8:56:54 AM PST, Tom Witt via Tigers <=
[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>     I=E2=80=99d agree about the cleanliness. I have a shed with various c=
oncrete pours as a floor.  One section had a coarse concrete that seemed ra=
ther damp at times. I attributed this to porosity.  I used a product called=
 =E2=80=9CDrylok=E2=80=9D over the whole floor before I did the epoxy coati=
ng. Within 6 months the coarse half of the room had lifted in as large as 4=
=E2=80=9D sheets. Now I have more of a mess on my hands that when I started=
. I don=E2=80=99t blame the epoxy coating, but rather the Drylok that I =E2=
=80=98thought=E2=80=99 would be a benefit.
>     =20
>     I think the epoxy product has a high scuff value. So with good adhesi=
on it should be durable. But if you have dampness or oil spots they need to=
 be dealt with properly.  There is something on my garage floor that causes=
 water to bead on the seemingly raw concrete. The previous owner ran a mach=
ine shop in the garage.  My guess is that spilled coolant, cutting oil etc.=
 is embedded in the concrete and it is not a good candidate for epoxy coati=
ngs.
>     =20
>     Rustoleum probably has a moisture limit for application and I believe=
 there are means to test the percentage. You might consult their site for m=
ore information. If you shop is new, has a vapor barrier, good drainage awa=
y from the property and you live in a low humidity climate these concerns a=
re probably mote.
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</head><body><p>Outstanding floor, Doug!!!</p><p><br></p><p>Andy Walker</p>=
<p>Edmond, OK</p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On November 7, 2018 at 12:40 PM =
Douglas Lyle via Tigers &#60;[email-masked]&#62; wrote: <br> <br><di=
v class=3D"ox-8c29522c4a-ydp4a6276a8yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:=
 Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><div>&#160=
;<br></div><div>Too many oil and brake fluid contaminants on my floor so I =
went with the RaceDeck.&#160; Simple to install and cleans up easy.&#160;&#=
160; If a tile gets damaged you can just replace it. &#160; Hides all the s=
mall cracks too which is difficult to do with epoxy. &#160; A few pictures =
attached below.</div><div><br></div><div>I was scared away from the epoxy r=
oute after seeing so many coated floors that had sections lift from wet tir=
es or tool drops.&#160; Prep is key but if you&#39;ve got an old floor that=
 can be difficult. &#160;&#160; I have a friend who has one that is perfect=
 and has lasted but he paid an obscene amount and it was professionally app=
lied.&#160; <br></div><div><br></div><div>Doug <br></div><div><br></div><di=
v><br></div><div><br></div></div><div id=3D"ox-8c29522c4a-ydp8480ecb3yahoo_=
quoted_2282567812" class=3D"ox-8c29522c4a-ydp8480ecb3yahoo_quoted"><div sty=
le=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-siz=
e: 13px; color: #26282a;"><div>On Wednesday, November 7, 2018, 8:56:54 AM P=
ST, Tom Witt via Tigers &#60;[email-masked]&#62; wrote:</div><div><b=
r></div><div><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D=
"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Calibri'; color: #000000;"><div>I&#8217;d a=
gree about the cleanliness. I have a shed with various concrete pours as a =
floor.&#160; One section had a coarse concrete that seemed rather damp at t=
imes. I attributed this to porosity.&#160; I used a product called &#8220;D=
rylok&#8221; over the whole floor before I did the epoxy coating. Within 6 =
months the coarse half of the room had lifted in as large as 4&#8221; sheet=
s. Now I have more of a mess on my hands that when I started. I don&#8217;t=
 blame the epoxy coating, but rather the Drylok that I &#8216;thought&#8217=
; would be a benefit.</div><div>&#160;</div><div>I think the epoxy product =
has a high scuff value. So with good adhesion it should be durable. But if =
you have dampness or oil spots they need to be dealt with properly.&#160; T=
here is something on my garage floor that causes water to bead on the seemi=
ngly raw concrete. The previous owner ran a machine shop in the garage.&#16=
0; My guess is that spilled coolant, cutting oil etc. is embedded in the co=
ncrete and it is not a good candidate for epoxy coatings.</div><div>&#160;<=
/div><div>Rustoleum probably has a moisture limit for application and I bel=
ieve there are means to test the percentage. You might consult their site f=
or more information. If you shop is new, has a vapor barrier, good drainage=
 away from the property and you live in a low humidity climate these concer=
ns are probably mote.</div><div style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration:=
 none;"><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch=
: normal; font-size: 10pt; font-family: tahoma;"><div>&#160;</div><div clas=
s=3D"ox-8c29522c4a-ydp8480ecb3yiv0458921636yqt1483237755" id=3D"ox-8c29522c=
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5; background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: scroll;"><div><strong>=
From:</strong> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" r=
el=3D"noopener">Gary via Tigers</a></div><div><strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesda=
y, November 06, 2018 4:29 PM</div><div><strong>To:</strong> <a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]=
eam.net</a></div><div><strong>Subject:</strong> [Tigers] Garage Floor Coati=
ng</div></div></div></div><div class=3D"ox-8c29522c4a-ydp8480ecb3yiv0458921=
636yqt1483237755" id=3D"ox-8c29522c4a-ydp8480ecb3yiv0458921636yqt91185"><di=
v>&#160;</div></div></div><div class=3D"ox-8c29522c4a-ydp8480ecb3yiv0458921=
636yqt1483237755" id=3D"ox-8c29522c4a-ydp8480ecb3yiv0458921636yqt37999"><di=
v style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none;"><div style=3D"font-siz=
e: 16px; font-family: helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, lucida grande, sans=
-serif; color: #000; background-color: #fff;"><div id=3D"ox-8c29522c4a-ydp8=
480ecb3yiv0458921636yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1541536176933_10008">I am almost fini=
sh with my shop and want to epoxy coat the floor. Any experience with vario=
us coatings and recommendations would be welcomed.</div><div id=3D"ox-8c295=
22c4a-ydp8480ecb3yiv0458921636yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1541536176933_9930">&#160;<=
/div><div id=3D"ox-8c29522c4a-ydp8480ecb3yiv0458921636yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_154=
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