Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger transmission

From: Will Seay via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 15:36:13 -0500

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Jim,

The Tiger transmission is a Ford toploader with the HEHE gear set.  Try =
your=20
local Ford dealer or someone who specializes in Mustangs for parts. =20
Save Rick for the exotic and Tiger-unique stuff.

Will - 382001570=20
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From: Rollright--- via Tigers=20
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:47 PM
To: [email-masked]=20
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger transmission

Hello,

Everything else associated with my Tiger is done, except......

The transmission

It leaks a small amount of oil from the sides, and the shifting is =
sometimes balky
even getting stuck out of a gear (very occassionally). Especially =
shifting fast.

What is available to address old transmission blues?
Rick is very limited to transmission/shifter parts.=20

Jim Armstrong
382002083
Mk 1A
code 86
TAC # 0763

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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>The Tiger transmission is a Ford toploader with the =
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<DIV>Everything else associated with my Tiger is done, =
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<DIV>The transmission</DIV>
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<DIV>It leaks a small amount of oil from the sides, and the shifting is=20
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<DIV>What is available to address old transmission blues?</DIV>
<DIV>Rick is very limited to transmission/shifter parts. </DIV>
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From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 16:22:39 -0500

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Jim

                1st you need to find where the leak starts on the
transmission.   You might be able to use just a UV flashlight or light to
find the starting point.

It is very possible the top cover gasket is leaking.   You might be able to
tighten the top cover bolts.  Top cover gaskets are still available - part #
C4AZ-7223-A; I believe that part number has been superseded a few time but
it is a starting point.   You might have to buy a gasket kit these days.

Sounds like a typical Ford shifter.  I remember having that problem.  I went
through the linkage to make sure everything was squared up, tight and no
wear points.  I believe I stretched the springs of the shifter a little to
tighten things up some and I went through the  gear shift linkage adjustment
- Shop Manual, Section E, pg. 4.

Beyond that you would need to go to a Hurst shifter I believe.

Ron Fraser

From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of
Rollright--- via Tigers
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:48 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger transmission

Hello,

The transmission

It leaks a small amount of oil from the sides, and the shifting is sometimes
balky

even getting stuck out of a gear (very occassionally). Especially shifting
fast.

Rick is very limited to transmission/shifter parts. 

Jim Armstrong
382002083
Mk 1A
code 86
TAC # 0763

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></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; 1<sup>st</sup> you need to find where the leak starts on the =
transmission.&nbsp;&nbsp; You might be able to use just a UV flashlight =
or light to find the starting point.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>It is very =
possible the top cover gasket is leaking.&nbsp;&nbsp; You might be able =
to tighten the top cover bolts.&nbsp; Top cover gaskets are still =
available &#8211; part # C4AZ-7223-A; I believe that part number has =
been superseded a few time but it is a starting point.&nbsp;&nbsp; You =
might have to buy a gasket kit these days.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sounds like =
a typical Ford shifter.&nbsp; I remember having that problem.&nbsp; I =
went through the linkage to make sure everything was squared up, tight =
and no wear points.&nbsp; I believe I stretched the springs of the =
shifter a little to tighten things up some and I went through the =
&nbsp;gear shift linkage adjustment &#8211; Shop Manual, Section E, pg. =
4.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Beyond that =
you would need to go to a Hurst shifter I =
believe.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Rollright--- via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 18, 2016 =
1:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] =
Tiger transmission<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hel=
lo,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Eve=
rything else associated with my Tiger is done, =
except......<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
 transmission<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>It =
leaks a small amount of oil from the sides, and the shifting is =
sometimes balky<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>eve=
n getting stuck out of a gear (very occassionally). Especially shifting =
fast.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Wha=
t is available to address old transmission =
blues?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ric=
k is very limited to transmission/shifter parts. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Jim=
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Jim,

I have to say I haven't used Dale... yet. But when the time comes his
reputation - from what I've read - is outstanding.

Seals  / gaskets may not be a big problem, but synchronizers may be a
challenge. You might consider giving him a call.

http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com

Tom '67 Mark 2

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Jim,=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>I have to say I haven&#39;t =
used Dale... yet. But when the time comes his reputation - from what I&#39;=
ve read - is outstanding.</div><div><br></div><div>Seals =C2=A0/ gaskets ma=
y not be a big problem, but synchronizers may be a challenge. You might con=
sider giving him a call.</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.dav=
idkeetoploaders.com">http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com</a><br></div><div><b=
r></div><div>Tom &#39;67 Mark 2</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Rollright--- via=
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<div>Hello,</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Everything else associated with my Tiger is done, except......</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>The transmission</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>It leaks a small amount of oil from the sides, and the shifting is=20
sometimes balky</div>
<div>even getting stuck out of a gear (very occassionally). Especially shif=
ting=20
fast.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>What is available to address old transmission blues?</div>
<div>Rick is very limited to transmission/shifter parts. </div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
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David Kee is the Toploader guy.  All the specs and parts and directions are
here:

http://www.4speedtoploaders.com/

If the shifting is hard you may need new internals, the shift blocker
rings wear and cock on the shafts causing binding. I would first try some
Redline MT-90 GL4 oil, that has worked well for me.

It could be the linkage and it might just need to be aligned, a simple
process using a 1/4" drill bit if it's out of the car.

If there is oil leaking and it's not coming from the shifter shafts then
it's the top seal. Easy to replace if tranny is out of car.

I've done a couple and converted a CR to the Mk II WR. It's easier then the
Dana Salisbury to rebuild.

> Rick is very limited to transmission/shifter parts.

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David Kee is the Toploader guy.=C2=A0 All the specs and parts and direction=
s are here:<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.4speedtoploaders.com/"=
>http://www.4speedtoploaders.com/</a></div><div><br></div><div>If the shift=
ing is hard you may need new internals, the shift blocker rings=C2=A0wear a=
nd cock on the shafts causing binding. I would first try some Redline MT-90=
 GL4=C2=A0oil, that has worked well for me.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>=
It could be the linkage and it might just need to be aligned, a simple proc=
ess using a 1/4&quot; drill bit=C2=A0if it&#39;s out of the car.=C2=A0</div=
><div><br></div><div>If there is oil leaking and it&#39;s not coming from t=
he shifter shafts then it&#39;s the top seal. Easy to replace if tranny is =
out of car. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve done a couple and conv=
erted a CR to the Mk II WR. It&#39;s easier then the Dana Salisbury to rebu=
ild.=C2=A0<span></span><br><br><br>On Friday, November 18, 2016, Rollright-=
-- via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
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<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;COLOR:#000000"><font color=
=3D"#000000" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">
<div>Hello,</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Everything else associated with my Tiger is done, except......</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>The transmission</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>It leaks a small amount of oil from the sides, and the shifting is=20
sometimes balky</div>
<div>even getting stuck out of a gear (very occassionally). Especially shif=
ting=20
fast.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>What is available to address old transmission blues?</div>
<div>Rick is very limited to transmission/shifter parts. </div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font lang=3D"0" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Jim=20
Armstrong<br>382002083<br>Mk 1A<br>code 86<br>TAC #=20
0763</font></div></font></div></blockquote></div>

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