Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 8, Issue 117

From: Warren Goodman via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 18:21:30 -0400

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Tigers United sale on AC Air Filter Housings $425 cash and carry .  I have really enjoyed the sales of the units and met lot's of great guys in in Tiger world.  When we are sold out there will be no second pressing.  It took 3 different guys to get em made and although the partnership owns the molds we can't do another run.   Get em before they are gone.....

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Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 11:03:03 -0400
From: "Ron Fraser" <[email-masked]>
To: "'Teepen, Jere'" <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shelby as Sunbeam Tiger manufacturer?

According to TBON both the Shelby and Miles Alpine V-8s were Series II.  The Jensen Project Prototype was a Series III.

G. Robson Book ? my guess is Shelby wanted to change the steering rack position and the front suspension geometry.  I also believe the next concern was the rear axle and suspension.  These seem to have been his main concerns and there were probably others.  Funny, the same ones we have today.  Maybe a look at the race Tigers would give more hints about the direction he envisioned.  Remember $10,000 for the Shelby Alpine V-8 only goes so far and Rootes was not interested in making major, read that expensive changes to the Alpine platform.

Ron Fraser

From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Teepen, Jere via Tigers
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 6:31 PM
To: J Clark <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shelby as Sunbeam Tiger manufacturer?

I have no knowledge about the changes Shelby may have made if production had gone that way, but from what I recall, the first V-8 Alpines were Series 2 (Ken Miles) and 3 (Shelby). 

I am now curious too, has there been any information as to what Shelby may have proposed?

From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of J Clark via Tigers
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 12:14 AM
Subject: [Tigers] Shelby as Sunbeam Tiger manufacturer?

Was reading the Tiger Wikipedia and the reference (citing the G. Robson book, "Sunbeam Alpine and Tiger- The complete Story") 

to Carroll Shelby's initial desire to build the car. Though I do own a copy of this book I must admit that this is news to me. 

Upon reading what Robson wrote, it still left me with a couple of questions. Do any of you folks know what Shelby, according to

Robson, had in mind when he proposed "radical modification of the Alpine's structure and chassis"? One wonders how things may

have played out in the big scheme of things if Rootes had given Shelby the gig, rather than Jensen.

Graham Robson also makes reference to some of the prototypes being built with SIII body shells. I believe this is hogwash,

leading me to question the veracity of the rest of the book's contents.

One more thing. Is my punctuation in this text coming through legibly? 

                                                               Regards,

                                                                     Jon

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Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 13:07:29 -0400
From: Warren Goodman <[email-masked]>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 8, Issue 114

Fakebook !  Like us now that's a big ask.

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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:54:27 -0400
From: [email-masked]
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Subject: [Tigers] mushy Wilwood brakes

What brake fluid are you running?  Is it dot 4 or dot  5
 
Jim Armstrong
Mk  1A

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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 09:33:28 -0500
From: "Jim McLaughlin"  <[email-masked]>
To: "'Rob Hogan'"  <[email-masked]>,     <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Activity

Rob:
I really like my 10 and 3/4? front brakes, I used  this size as I still 
have 13 inch wheels.  The setup work very well as I  have a Wilwood 
proportioning valve to adjust front to rear effort to my driving  style, or perhaps 
lack of.  One problem I have is that I use a 1980 Subaru  Brat M/C to gain a 
dual chamber master, this has turned out to be the weak  link.  While I got 
plenty of help from Wilwood Tech about setup, when I  asked for then to 
recommend a dual chamber M/C I have not heard back and it?s  been over a year.  I 
drive the car fairly regularly, it runs and stops  great, brake pedal is 
soft on initial press of pedal.  Brakes have been  bled several times and the 
M/C does not leak and no fluid has been lost.  I  do need a line on a better 
Master.  The great is quite fast and I would say  my stopping confidence for 
me driving is about 80 to 85% sat.  My son told  me the pedal is too mushy 
for him.  My wife will not drive it yet, so just  my oldest son and I have 
driven it.  So th
is needs
attention.  I am still looking.  
The actual caliper setup with  drums on the rear is awesome for street use 
and maybe when a new M/C is fitted  something a little more, noting the car 
is very fast!
By the way I used  Classic tube hard lines for the car except for the M/C 
connections in the engine  bay to the valve, they are custom bent.  I would 
use this method again for  another Tiger, but it would have to be Midnight 
Blue  (58)!!!

Jim

From: Rob Hogan [mailto:[email-masked]]  
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 8:28 AM
To: Jim McLaughlin  <[email-masked]>
Cc: Tiger's List  <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers]  Activity

Jim,

Have you had a large amount of driving experience  with the front Wilwood 
and rear drum brake setup?
I am considering that same  brake combination and also whether to convert 
the rear brakes to Wilwood disks  with Dale's kit.
What I'm trying ta assess is how much better the front only  conversion is 
in comparison to the stock Tiger brakes and also the full  conversion to the 
front only Wilwood disks.  Any advice on what you may  have learned would 
be very helpful.

Rob

Rob Hogan

On  Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Jim McLaughlin via Tigers 
Tiger listers:

I seem  to continue to receive info from you folks.  I would  offer that as 
a  former member of facebook, I utilize and appreciate and use this list 
almost  daily, sometimes even add when I have something to offer.
As for social  media, consider this, I closed my facebook account over 2 
years ago when they  were exposed conducting an experiment posting positive 
and negative info to  selected facebook members as an unannounced experiment, 
really, I personally do  not need to be part of this BS nor will I. 

Here is the result of  your contributions to my restoration effort, a 1966 
Mark1(a) Tiger with a  modified 260, posit track rear-end, Wilwood front 
discs, stock rear drums, a  really nice car, oh yes, Martha C. interior.
So thanks and let?s consider  this one of the reasons to keep going.

Jim  McLaughlin
B382000175LRXFE
P.S. at St Mary?s Aldermanbury (Christopher  Wren) in Fulton, MO originally 
destroyed during the battle of London in WW2 and  given by the people of 
the UK to Fulton after Churchill?s Iron Curtain  speech.

From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]  
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers]  Activity

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At 09:38 AM 6/7/2016, Tom Hall via Tigers wrote:
Not having received  anything frim the Tiger List since may 27th, I sent a 
test message to the List and received three responces. One of the 
responders copied the list.  I got  his responce in my personel mail, but no cc from 
the list.  There is  nothing from the list in my Comcast spam file!  What  
gives?

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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:09:52 -0500
From: "James Burruss" <[email-masked]>
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Subject: [Tigers] Facebook? No!

Add my vote against using Facebook - for anything.

Jim Burruss

'65 unrestored Tiger

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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:03:23 -0700
From: "Ramon Spontelli" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Resistance is futile...

<< Amend, I also avoid Facebook.>>

I call it Farcebook.

Ramon

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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 09:17:15 -0400
From: Larry Paulick <[email-masked]>
To: Larry Wright <[email-masked]>
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Resistance is futile...

Amend, I also avoid Facebook.

Larry Paulick
> On Jun 9, 2016, at 7:37 AM, Larry Wright via Tigers
<[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> "From what I can tell Facebook seems to be absorbing lists like this, and
dedicated automotive websites."
> 
> Well, I've been avoiding involvement with Facebook for some time, and
would prefer this not to happen for the Tiger community. Not that I'd be
missed...
> 
> Larry Wright, Seabrook MD
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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:29:33 -0700
From: David Sosna <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shelby as Sunbeam Tiger manufacturer?

Hi Jon:

Punctuation seems okay.

Wasn't the Ken Miles prototype a pointy-fin (Series III)?

Best Regards

David Sosna

On 6/10/2016 12:13 AM, J Clark via Tigers wrote:
> Was reading the Tiger Wikipedia and the reference (citing the G. 
> Robson book, "Sunbeam Alpine and Tiger- The complete Story")
> to Carroll Shelby's initial desire to build the car. Though I do own a 
> copy of this book I must admit that this is news to me.
> Upon reading what Robson wrote, it still left me with a couple of 
> questions. Do any of you folks know what Shelby, according to
> Robson, had in mind when he proposed "radical modification of the 
> Alpine's structure and chassis"? One wonders how things may
> have played out in the big scheme of things if Rootes had given Shelby 
> the gig, rather than Jensen.
>
> Graham Robson also makes reference to some of the prototypes being 
> built with SIII body shells. I believe this is hogwash,
> leading me to question the veracity of the rest of the book's contents.
>
> One more thing. Is my punctuation in this text coming through legibly?
>
> Regards,
>    Jon
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Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 11:03:03 -0400<br>

From: "Ron Fraser" &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>

To: "'Teepen, Jere'" &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shelby as Sunbeam Tiger manufacturer?<br>

<br>

According to TBON both the Shelby and Miles Alpine V-8s were Series II.  The Jensen Project Prototype was a Series III.<br>

<br>

 <br>

<br>

G. Robson Book ? my guess is Shelby wanted to change the steering rack position and the front suspension geometry.  I also believe the next concern was the rear axle and suspension.  These seem to have been his main concerns and there were probably others.  Funny, the same ones we have today.  Maybe a look at the race Tigers would give more hints about the direction he envisioned.  Remember $10,000 for the Shelby Alpine V-8 only goes so far and Rootes was not interested in making major, read that expensive changes to the Alpine platform.<br>

<br>

 <br>

<br>

Ron Fraser<br>

<br>

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From: Tigers [<a href="mailto:[email-masked]?">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of Teepen, Jere via Tigers<br>

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 6:31 PM<br>

To: J Clark &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shelby as Sunbeam Tiger manufacturer?<br>

<br>

 <br>

<br>

I have no knowledge about the changes Shelby may have made if production had gone that way, but from what I recall, the first V-8 Alpines were Series 2 (Ken Miles) and 3 (Shelby). <br>

<br>

 <br>

<br>

I am now curious too, has there been any information as to what Shelby may have proposed?<br>

<br>

 <br>

<br>

From: Tigers [<a href="mailto:[email-masked]?">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of J Clark via Tigers<br>

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 12:14 AM<br>

To: <a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]?">mailto:[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br>

Subject: [Tigers] Shelby as Sunbeam Tiger manufacturer?<br>

<br>

 <br>

<br>

 <br>

<br>

Was reading the Tiger Wikipedia and the reference (citing the G. Robson book, "Sunbeam Alpine and Tiger- The complete Story") <br>

<br>

to Carroll Shelby's initial desire to build the car. Though I do own a copy of this book I must admit that this is news to me. <br>

<br>

Upon reading what Robson wrote, it still left me with a couple of questions. Do any of you folks know what Shelby, according to<br>

<br>

Robson, had in mind when he proposed "radical modification of the Alpine's structure and chassis"? One wonders how things may<br>

<br>

have played out in the big scheme of things if Rootes had given Shelby the gig, rather than Jensen.<br>

<br>

 <br>

<br>

Graham Robson also makes reference to some of the prototypes being built with SIII body shells. I believe this is hogwash,<br>

<br>

leading me to question the veracity of the rest of the book's contents.<br>

<br>

 <br>

<br>

One more thing. Is my punctuation in this text coming through legibly? <br>

<br>

 <br>

<br>

                                                               Regards,<br>

<br>

                                                                     Jon<br>

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Fakebook !  Like us now that's a big ask.<br>

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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:54:27 -0400<br>

From: <a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>

To: <a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>

Subject: [Tigers] mushy Wilwood brakes<br>

<br>

What brake fluid are you running?  Is it dot 4 or dot  5<br>

 <br>

Jim Armstrong<br>

Mk  1A<br>

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Message: 2<br>

Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 09:33:28 -0500<br>

From: "Jim McLaughlin"  &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>

To: "'Rob Hogan'"  &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;,     &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Activity<br>

<br>

Rob:<br>

I really like my 10 and 3/4? front brakes, I used  this size as I still <br>

have 13 inch wheels.  The setup work very well as I  have a Wilwood <br>

proportioning valve to adjust front to rear effort to my driving  style, or perhaps <br>

lack of.  One problem I have is that I use a 1980 Subaru  Brat M/C to gain a <br>

dual chamber master, this has turned out to be the weak  link.  While I got <br>

plenty of help from Wilwood Tech about setup, when I  asked for then to <br>

recommend a dual chamber M/C I have not heard back and it?s  been over a year.  I <br>

drive the car fairly regularly, it runs and stops  great, brake pedal is <br>

soft on initial press of pedal.  Brakes have been  bled several times and the <br>

M/C does not leak and no fluid has been lost.  I  do need a line on a better <br>

Master.  The great is quite fast and I would say  my stopping confidence for <br>

me driving is about 80 to 85% sat.  My son told  me the pedal is too mushy <br>

for him.  My wife will not drive it yet, so just  my oldest son and I have <br>

driven it.  So th<br>

is needs<br>

attention.  I am still looking.  <br>

The actual caliper setup with  drums on the rear is awesome for street use <br>

and maybe when a new M/C is fitted  something a little more, noting the car <br>

is very fast!<br>

By the way I used  Classic tube hard lines for the car except for the M/C <br>

connections in the engine  bay to the valve, they are custom bent.  I would <br>

use this method again for  another Tiger, but it would have to be Midnight <br>

Blue  (58)!!!<br>

<br>

Jim<br>

<br>

From: Rob Hogan [<a href="mailto:[email-masked]?">mailto:[email-masked]</a>]  <br>

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 8:28 AM<br>

To: Jim McLaughlin  &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>

Cc: Tiger's List  &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>

Subject: Re: [Tigers]  Activity<br>

<br>

Jim,<br>

<br>

Have you had a large amount of driving experience  with the front Wilwood <br>

and rear drum brake setup?<br>

I am considering that same  brake combination and also whether to convert <br>

the rear brakes to Wilwood disks  with Dale's kit.<br>

What I'm trying ta assess is how much better the front only  conversion is <br>

in comparison to the stock Tiger brakes and also the full  conversion to the <br>

front only Wilwood disks.  Any advice on what you may  have learned would <br>

be very helpful.<br>

<br>

Rob<br>

<br>

<br>

Rob Hogan<br>

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On  Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Jim McLaughlin via Tigers <br>

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Tiger listers:<br>

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I seem  to continue to receive info from you folks.  I would  offer that as <br>

a  former member of facebook, I utilize and appreciate and use this list <br>

almost  daily, sometimes even add when I have something to offer.<br>

As for social  media, consider this, I closed my facebook account over 2 <br>

years ago when they  were exposed conducting an experiment posting positive <br>

and negative info to  selected facebook members as an unannounced experiment, <br>

really, I personally do  not need to be part of this BS nor will I. <br>

<br>

<br>

Here is the result of  your contributions to my restoration effort, a 1966 <br>

Mark1(a) Tiger with a  modified 260, posit track rear-end, Wilwood front <br>

discs, stock rear drums, a  really nice car, oh yes, Martha C. interior.<br>

So thanks and let?s consider  this one of the reasons to keep going.<br>

<br>

Jim  McLaughlin<br>

B382000175LRXFE<br>

P.S. at St Mary?s Aldermanbury (Christopher  Wren) in Fulton, MO originally <br>

destroyed during the battle of London in WW2 and  given by the people of <br>

the UK to Fulton after Churchill?s Iron Curtain  speech.<br>

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From: Tigers [<a href="mailto:[email-masked]?">mailto:[email-masked]</a>  <br>

&lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]?">mailto:[email-masked]</a>&gt; ] On Behalf Of Norman C. Miller via  Tigers<br>

Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 10:04 AM<br>

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Subject: Re: [Tigers]  Activity<br>

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At 09:38 AM 6/7/2016, Tom Hall via Tigers wrote:<br>

Not having received  anything frim the Tiger List since may 27th, I sent a <br>

test message to the List and received three responces. One of the <br>

responders copied the list.  I got  his responce in my personel mail, but no cc from <br>

the list.  There is  nothing from the list in my Comcast spam file!  What  <br>

gives?<br>

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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:09:52 -0500<br>

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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:03:23 -0700<br>

From: "Ramon Spontelli" &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>

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&lt;&lt; Amend, I also avoid Facebook.&gt;&gt;<br>

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I call it Farcebook.<br>

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Amend, I also avoid Facebook.<br>

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&gt; On Jun 9, 2016, at 7:37 AM, Larry Wright via Tigers<br>

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&gt; "From what I can tell Facebook seems to be absorbing lists like this, and<br>

dedicated automotive websites."<br>

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&gt; Well, I've been avoiding involvement with Facebook for some time, and<br>

would prefer this not to happen for the Tiger community. Not that I'd be<br>

missed...<br>

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&gt; Larry Wright, Seabrook MD<br>

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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:29:33 -0700<br>

From: David Sosna &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>

To: <a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>

Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shelby as Sunbeam Tiger manufacturer?<br>

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Hi Jon:<br>

<br>

Punctuation seems okay.<br>

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Wasn't the Ken Miles prototype a pointy-fin (Series III)?<br>

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On 6/10/2016 12:13 AM, J Clark via Tigers wrote:<br>

&gt; Was reading the Tiger Wikipedia and the reference (citing the G. <br>

&gt; Robson book, "Sunbeam Alpine and Tiger- The complete Story")<br>

&gt; to Carroll Shelby's initial desire to build the car. Though I do own a <br>

&gt; copy of this book I must admit that this is news to me.<br>

&gt; Upon reading what Robson wrote, it still left me with a couple of <br>

&gt; questions. Do any of you folks know what Shelby, according to<br>

&gt; Robson, had in mind when he proposed "radical modification of the <br>

&gt; Alpine's structure and chassis"? One wonders how things may<br>

&gt; have played out in the big scheme of things if Rootes had given Shelby <br>

&gt; the gig, rather than Jensen.<br>

&gt;<br>

&gt; Graham Robson also makes reference to some of the prototypes being <br>

&gt; built with SIII body shells. I believe this is hogwash,<br>

&gt; leading me to question the veracity of the rest of the book's contents.<br>

&gt;<br>

&gt; One more thing. Is my punctuation in this text coming through legibly?<br>

&gt;<br>

&gt; Regards,<br>

&gt;    Jon<br>

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