Subject: [Tigers] mushy Wilwood brakes

From: Rollright--- via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:54:27 -0400

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What brake fluid are you running?  Is it dot 4 or dot  5
 
Jim Armstrong
Mk  1A

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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 09:33:28 -0500
From: "Jim McLaughlin"  <[email-masked]>
To: "'Rob Hogan'"  <[email-masked]>,     <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Activity

Rob:
I really like my 10 and 3/4? front brakes, I used  this size as I still 
have 13 inch wheels.  The setup work very well as I  have a Wilwood 
proportioning valve to adjust front to rear effort to my driving  style, or perhaps 
lack of.  One problem I have is that I use a 1980 Subaru  Brat M/C to gain a 
dual chamber master, this has turned out to be the weak  link.  While I got 
plenty of help from Wilwood Tech about setup, when I  asked for then to 
recommend a dual chamber M/C I have not heard back and it?s  been over a year.  I 
drive the car fairly regularly, it runs and stops  great, brake pedal is 
soft on initial press of pedal.  Brakes have been  bled several times and the 
M/C does not leak and no fluid has been lost.  I  do need a line on a better 
Master.  The great is quite fast and I would say  my stopping confidence for 
me driving is about 80 to 85% sat.  My son told  me the pedal is too mushy 
for him.  My wife will not drive it yet, so just  my oldest son and I have 
driven it.  So th
is needs
attention.  I am still looking.  
The actual caliper setup with  drums on the rear is awesome for street use 
and maybe when a new M/C is fitted  something a little more, noting the car 
is very fast!
By the way I used  Classic tube hard lines for the car except for the M/C 
connections in the engine  bay to the valve, they are custom bent.  I would 
use this method again for  another Tiger, but it would have to be Midnight 
Blue  (58)!!!

Jim

From: Rob Hogan [mailto:[email-masked]]  
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 8:28 AM
To: Jim McLaughlin  <[email-masked]>
Cc: Tiger's List  <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers]  Activity

Jim,

Have you had a large amount of driving experience  with the front Wilwood 
and rear drum brake setup?
I am considering that same  brake combination and also whether to convert 
the rear brakes to Wilwood disks  with Dale's kit.
What I'm trying ta assess is how much better the front only  conversion is 
in comparison to the stock Tiger brakes and also the full  conversion to the 
front only Wilwood disks.  Any advice on what you may  have learned would 
be very helpful.

Rob

Rob Hogan

On  Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Jim McLaughlin via Tigers 
Tiger listers:

I seem  to continue to receive info from you folks.  I would  offer that as 
a  former member of facebook, I utilize and appreciate and use this list 
almost  daily, sometimes even add when I have something to offer.
As for social  media, consider this, I closed my facebook account over 2 
years ago when they  were exposed conducting an experiment posting positive 
and negative info to  selected facebook members as an unannounced experiment, 
really, I personally do  not need to be part of this BS nor will I. 

Here is the result of  your contributions to my restoration effort, a 1966 
Mark1(a) Tiger with a  modified 260, posit track rear-end, Wilwood front 
discs, stock rear drums, a  really nice car, oh yes, Martha C. interior.
So thanks and let?s consider  this one of the reasons to keep going.

Jim  McLaughlin
B382000175LRXFE
P.S. at St Mary?s Aldermanbury (Christopher  Wren) in Fulton, MO originally 
destroyed during the battle of London in WW2 and  given by the people of 
the UK to Fulton after Churchill?s Iron Curtain  speech.

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Subject: Re: [Tigers]  Activity

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At 09:38 AM 6/7/2016, Tom Hall via Tigers wrote:
Not having received  anything frim the Tiger List since may 27th, I sent a 
test message to the List  and received three responces. One of the 
responders copied the list.  I got  his responce in my personel mail, but no cc from 
the list.  There is  nothing from the list in my Comcast spam file!  What  
gives?

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