Subject: Re: [Tigers] Throttle return spring bracket

From: Bill Martin via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 03:53:10 +0000 (UTC)

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Guys, the factory did make 2 automatic Tigers, thus the Ford # in the parts=
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    On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:45 PM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]=
eam.net> wrote:
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hese parts all have Rootes part numbers. =C2=A0I received some information =
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t was changed. =C2=A0Ron Fraser
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p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Spring =E2=80=93 Accelerator r=
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nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bra=
cket =E2=80=93 Accelerator spring anchorage&nbsp; Mk I</div><div class=3D"y=
iv3611129717MsoNormal">1229919&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bracket =E2=80=93 accelerator=
 spring anchorage&nbsp; Mk II</div><div class=3D"yiv3611129717MsoNormal">Th=
ese parts all have Rootes part numbers.</div><div class=3D"yiv3611129717Mso=
Normal"> &nbsp;</div><div class=3D"yiv3611129717MsoNormal">I received some =
information from Graham Vickery on the stock brackets.</div><div class=3D"y=
iv3611129717MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div><div class=3D"yiv3611129717MsoNormal">I=
f you measure the bracket from the base up to the top tip.</div><div class=
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al">1224854 =3D 1.6=E2=80=9D</div><div class=3D"yiv3611129717MsoNormal">122=
9919 =3D 3.75=E2=80=9D</div><div class=3D"yiv3611129717MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</=
div><div class=3D"yiv3611129717MsoNormal">I measured my bracket at 3.71=E2=
=80=9D so it must be the 1229919 bracket on my B382 series Tiger.</div><div=
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nged.</div><div class=3D"yiv3611129717MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div><div class=3D=
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From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 11:38:56 -0400

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I now have confirmed the 1224854 short bracket on an L2KA engine and my
F21KA engine has the taller 1229919 bracket.

I believe the 1229919 bracket was cut into the F21KA engine group not just
the Mk II as indicated by the Parts list.

Anyone have a short bracket on an F21KA or later engine?

Anyone have a tall bracket on an earlier than F21KA engine?

I also have a picture of a Mk II bracket that looks even taller than 3.75" -
maybe it is just the angle of the picture.

Anyone have a bracket that is taller than 3.75"?

As for the C2OZ-9741-B bracket - I believe this is a left over from the
Cleveland Foundry assembly line and possibly needed for Final Testing.
Normally engines are run at Final Test to ensure a good assembly.   It is
very possible the bracket cost less than a penny and the labor cost to
remove it was not acceptable.  This is my best guess; we may never know for
sure.

Ron Fraser

From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Ron Fraser
via Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 2:02 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Tigers] Throttle return spring bracket

Tiger Parts List

Carb controls - Section DF

1224891                Spring - Accelerator return

1224854                Bracket - Accelerator spring anchorage  Mk I

1229919                Bracket - accelerator spring anchorage  Mk II

These parts all have Rootes part numbers.

I received some information from Graham Vickery on the stock brackets.

If you measure the bracket from the base up to the top tip.

1224854 = 1.6"

1229919 = 3.75"

I measured my bracket at 3.71" so it must be the 1229919 bracket on my B382
series Tiger.

So now I wonder when this bracket was changed.

Ron Fraser

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class=3DMsoNormal>I now have confirmed the 1224854 short bracket on an =
L2KA engine and my F21KA engine has the taller 1229919 =
bracket.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I believe the 1229919 bracket was cut into the F21KA =
engine group not just the Mk II as indicated by the Parts =
list.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Anyone have a short bracket on =
an F21KA or later engine?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Anyone have =
a tall bracket on an earlier than F21KA engine?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I also have =
a picture of a Mk II bracket that looks even taller than 3.75&#8221; =
&#8211; maybe it is just the angle of the picture.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Anyone have a bracket that is taller than =
3.75&#8221;?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>As for the C2OZ-9741-B bracket &#8211; I believe this =
is a left over from the Cleveland Foundry assembly line and possibly =
needed for Final Testing.&nbsp; Normally engines are run at Final Test =
to ensure a good assembly. &nbsp;&nbsp;It is very possible the bracket =
cost less than a penny and the labor cost to remove it was not =
acceptable.&nbsp; This is my best guess; we may never know for =
sure.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Fraser =
via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 17, 2016 2:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Throttle return spring =
bracket<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>Tiger =
Parts List<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Carb controls &#8211; =
<b>Section DF</b><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>1224891&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Spring &#8211; Accelerator =
return<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>1224854&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bracket &#8211; Accelerator =
spring anchorage&nbsp; Mk I<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>1229919&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bracket &#8211; accelerator =
spring anchorage&nbsp; Mk II<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>These =
parts all have Rootes part numbers.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I received =
some information from Graham Vickery on the stock =
brackets.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>If you measure the bracket from the base up to the top =
tip.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>1224854 =3D 1.6&#8221;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>1229919 =3D 3.75&#8221;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I measured =
my bracket at 3.71&#8221; so it must be the 1229919 bracket on my B382 =
series Tiger.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>So now I wonder when =
this bracket was changed.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>
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