Subject: Re: [Tigers] FW: Two questions

From: michael king via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:28:51 +1000

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The rootes trust cert is basically a build sheet from the rooted trust
archive. The same info norm could provide.

As for black being a special order... utter rubbish, colour code 1 was a
stock tiger offering. If it had an interior other than red or black then it
could have a special order interior, but black exterior was a stick
offering.
On 30 May 2016 14:29, "Gary Fish via Tigers" <[email-masked]> wrote:

*From:* Gary Fish [mailto:[email-masked]]
*Sent:* Sunday, May 29, 2016 10:43 PM
*To:* [email-masked]'
*Subject:* Two questions

I just received the July issue of Hemmings. They list a Tiger that was sold
at Godding and state that it had a  Rootes Archive Center Trust
Certificate. I had never heard of this. Is anyone familiar with this
certification?

Second question relates to another statement in a Hemmings publication
(Sport & Exotic Car). The interview with a Tiger owner who has a black car
says that black was not a standard Tiger color and had to be ordered
special. I wasn=E2=80=99t aware of this. Is this true?

Gary 1265

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<p dir=3D"ltr">The rootes trust cert is basically a build sheet from the ro=
oted trust archive. The same info norm could provide.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">As for black being a special order... utter rubbish, colour =
code 1 was a stock tiger offering. If it had an interior other than red or =
black then it could have a special order interior, but black exterior was a=
 stick offering.<br>
</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 30 May 2016 14:29, &quot;Gary Fish via Tigers=
&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D=
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yle=3D"color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
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le=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Gary Fi=
sh [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">one=
[email-masked]</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 29, 2016 10:43 PM<br=
><b>To:</b> &#39;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a>&#39;<br><b>Subject:</b> Two question=
s<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I just received the July issue of Hemmings=
. They list a Tiger that was sold at Godding and state that it had a =C2=A0=
Rootes Archive Center Trust Certificate. I had never heard of this. Is anyo=
ne familiar with this certification?<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">Second question relates to another statement in a Hemmings publication (S=
port &amp; Exotic Car). The interview with a Tiger owner who has a black ca=
r says that black was not a standard Tiger color and had to be ordered spec=
ial. I wasn=E2=80=99t aware of this. Is this true?<u></u><u></u></p><p clas=
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From: Tom Parker via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 07:40:50 -0500

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http://www.rootesarchivecentre.org.uk

http://tardis.dl.ac.uk/ARCC/certificates/order_form.pdf

Gary, First, I've never heard of it; apparently it's a UK thing. Second, I
didn't see anything about an inspection as our guys do here so, offhand,
I'd guess it's a piece of paper with nothing to back it up.

If your Tiger has been TACd it's as close as possible to being
"authenticated."

Perhaps more from the UK guys?

Tom
'67 Mark 2.

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Gary Fish via Tigers <[email-masked]=
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> I just received the July issue of Hemmings. They list a Tiger that was
> sold at Godding and state that it had a  Rootes Archive Center Trust
> (Sport & Exotic Car). The interview with a Tiger owner who has a black ca=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"http://www.rootesarchivecentre.org.uk">http://w=
ww.rootesarchivecentre.org.uk</a><br><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://=
tardis.dl.ac.uk/ARCC/certificates/order_form.pdf">http://tardis.dl.ac.uk/AR=
CC/certificates/order_form.pdf</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Gary, First=
, I&#39;ve never heard of it; apparently it&#39;s a UK thing. Second, I did=
n&#39;t see anything about an inspection as our guys do here so, offhand, I=
&#39;d guess it&#39;s a piece of paper with nothing to back it up.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>If your Tiger has been TACd it&#39;s as close as possible =
to being &quot;authenticated.&quot;</div><div><br></div><div>Perhaps more f=
rom the UK guys?</div><div><br></div><div>Tom</div><div>&#39;67 Mark 2.</di=
v></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, M=
ay 29, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Gary Fish via Tigers <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
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0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Gary Fish [mail=
to:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">onegonefish=
@comcast.net</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 29, 2016 10:43 PM<br><b>To:<=
/b> &#39;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">t=
[email-masked]</a>&#39;<br><b>Subject:</b> Two questions<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I just received the July issue of Hemmings. They l=
ist a Tiger that was sold at Godding and state that it had a =C2=A0Rootes A=
rchive Center Trust Certificate. I had never heard of this. Is anyone famil=
iar with this certification?<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Second=
 question relates to another statement in a Hemmings publication (Sport &am=
p; Exotic Car). The interview with a Tiger owner who has a black car says t=
hat black was not a standard Tiger color and had to be ordered special. I w=
asn=E2=80=99t aware of this. Is this true?<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Mso=
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From: James Lindner via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 08:57:41 -0400

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Gary

See link below for info on the Rootes Heritage Trust Certificates

http://tardis.dl.ac.uk/ARCC/heritage_certs.html

The Rootes Heritage trust has made considerable in roads in obtaining =
access and preserving Rootes company records. More info is available on =
their website http://www.rootesarchivecentre.org.uk/

As for the color black...=E2=80=9DThe Sunbeam Tiger was available in the =
following colors:     1 Embassy Black...=E2=80=9D (Book of Norman, p. =
135)

Jim=20

From: Gary Fish via Tigers=20
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To: [email-masked]=20
Subject: [Tigers] FW: Two questions

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From: Gary Fish [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 10:43 PM
To: [email-masked]'
Subject: Two questions

=20

I just received the July issue of Hemmings. They list a Tiger that was =
sold at Godding and state that it had a  Rootes Archive Center Trust =
Certificate. I had never heard of this. Is anyone familiar with this =
certification?

Second question relates to another statement in a Hemmings publication =
(Sport & Exotic Car). The interview with a Tiger owner who has a black =
car says that black was not a standard Tiger color and had to be ordered =
special. I wasn=E2=80=99t aware of this. Is this true?

Gary 1265

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<DIV>Gary</DIV>
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<DIV>See link below for info on the Rootes Heritage Trust =
Certificates</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A title=3Dhttp://tardis.dl.ac.uk/ARCC/heritage_certs.html=20
href=3D"http://tardis.dl.ac.uk/ARCC/heritage_certs.html">http://tardis.dl=
.ac.uk/ARCC/heritage_certs.html</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The Rootes Heritage trust has made considerable in roads in =
obtaining=20
access and preserving Rootes company records. More info is available on =
their=20
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href=3D"http://www.rootesarchivecentre.org.uk/">http://www.rootesarchivec=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>As for the color black...=E2=80=9DThe Sunbeam Tiger was available =
in the following=20
colors:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 Embassy Black...=E2=80=9D (Book of =
Norman, p.=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Jim </DIV>
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From: Jay Laifman via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 06:04:19 -0700

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255, 255);">Perhaps his local dealer didn't have a black Tiger on the lot a=
nd none on the way. So he had to specifically order one if he wanted it. &n=
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v><b>From: </b>michael king via Tigers</div><div><b>Sent: </b>Monday, May 3=
0, 2016 6:02 AM</div><div><b>To: </b>Gary Fish</div><div><b>Reply To: </b>m=
ichael king</div><div><b>Cc: </b>Tiger Talk List Tiger</div><div><b>Subject=
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ground-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div><br><div id=3D"_originalContent" s=
tyle=3D""><p dir=3D"ltr">The rootes trust cert is basically a build sheet f=
rom the rooted trust archive. The same info norm could provide.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">As for black being a special order... utter rubbish, colour =
code 1 was a stock tiger offering. If it had an interior other than red or =
black then it could have a special order interior, but black exterior was a=
 stick offering.<br>
</p>
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;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" li=
nk=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"col=
or:#1f497d"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
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er:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Gary Fish [mailt=
o:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">onegonefish@=
comcast.net</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 29, 2016 10:43 PM<br><b>To:</=
b> '<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">tigers=
[email-masked]</a>'<br><b>Subject:</b> Two questions<u></u><u></u></=
span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">I just received the July issue of Hemmings. They list a Tig=
er that was sold at Godding and state that it had a &nbsp;Rootes Archive Ce=
nter Trust Certificate. I had never heard of this. Is anyone familiar with =
this certification?<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Second question=
 relates to another statement in a Hemmings publication (Sport &amp; Exotic=
 Car). The interview with a Tiger owner who has a black car says that black=
 was not a standard Tiger color and had to be ordered special. I wasn=E2=80=
=99t aware of this. Is this true?<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">G=
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From: Tom Witt via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 13:58:49 -0700

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=E2=80=9CAs for black being a special order... utter rubbish, colour =
code 1 was a stock tiger offering.=E2=80=9D
YES! Somewhere in Tigerdom someone has a picture of a So. Cal. warehouse =
with the first shipment of Tigers to the west coast.  There are a number =
of black cars in that (color) photo.  To that end I tried counting =
because at #101 I was wondering if one of them was mine!

From: michael king via Tigers=20
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 4:28 AM
To: Gary Fish=20
Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger=20
Subject: Re: [Tigers] FW: Two questions

The rootes trust cert is basically a build sheet from the rooted trust =
archive. The same info norm could provide.

As for black being a special order... utter rubbish, colour code 1 was a =
stock tiger offering. If it had an interior other than red or black then =
it could have a special order interior, but black exterior was a stick =
offering.

On 30 May 2016 14:29, "Gary Fish via Tigers" <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

  Gary 1265

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<DIV><EM>=E2=80=9CAs for black being a special order... utter rubbish, =
colour code 1 was=20
a stock tiger offering.=E2=80=9D</EM></DIV>
<DIV>YES! Somewhere in Tigerdom someone has a picture of a So. Cal. =
warehouse=20
with the first shipment of Tigers to the west coast.&nbsp; There are a =
number of=20
black cars in that (color) photo.&nbsp; To that end I tried counting =
because at=20
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">michael king via Tigers</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 30, 2016 4:28 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Gary Fish</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Tiger Talk List Tiger</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] FW: Two questions</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P dir=3Dltr>The rootes trust cert is basically a build sheet from the =
rooted=20
trust archive. The same info norm could provide.</P>
<P dir=3Dltr>As for black being a special order... utter rubbish, colour =
code 1=20
was a stock tiger offering. If it had an interior other than red or =
black then=20
it could have a special order interior, but black exterior was a stick=20
offering.<BR></P>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On 30 May 2016 14:29, "Gary Fish via Tigers" =
&lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR=20
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  style=3D"BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; =
BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; =
PADDING-LEFT: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in">
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Gary =
Fish=20
  [mailto:<A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
  target=3D_blank>[email-masked]</A>] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, =
May 29,=20
  2016 10:43 PM<BR><B>To:</B> '<A =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
  target=3D_blank>[email-masked]</A>'<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Two=20
  questions<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><U></U><U></U>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>I just received the July issue of Hemmings. They =
list a=20
  Tiger that was sold at Godding and state that it had a&nbsp; Rootes =
Archive=20
  Center Trust Certificate. I had never heard of this. Is anyone =
familiar with=20
  this certification?<U></U><U></U></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Second question relates to another statement in a =
Hemmings=20
  publication (Sport &amp; Exotic Car). The interview with a Tiger owner =
who has=20
  a black car says that black was not a standard Tiger color and had to =
be=20
  ordered special. I wasn=E2=80=99t aware of this. Is this =
true?<U></U><U></U></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Gary=20
1265<U></U><U></U></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></=
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From: Tom Witt via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 16:52:03 -0700

>>>Perhaps his local dealer didn't have a black Tiger on the lot and none on 
>>>the way. So he had to specifically order one if he wanted it.<<<

While that may be a reason for him not getting one – when he wanted it, he 
did state it was a “not a standard color.” So, that kind of negates the 
possibility proposed being the answer.  Somewhere in Tigerdom there is as 
color picture of the first shipment of west coast Tigers. Amidst the 
shipment of Tigers are a number of black ones.  I tried counting them and 
wondered of #101 was in the mix.  It is amazing the number of myths and 
legends that seem to turn up in just about all car makes.

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Not sure that's its myth or legends in the marques, just the nature of many
people embellishing stories to make their car seen more special or making
things up on the fly rather than saying they don't know an answer to a
question.

Also the other thing I love.... because it's on my car... or because I
fitted it 20 years ago it's now " factory" or "original"
On 1 Jun 2016 12:27, "Tom Witt via Tigers" <[email-masked]> wrote:

> While that may be a reason for him not getting one =E2=80=93 when he want=
ed it, he
> did state it was a =E2=80=9Cnot a standard color.=E2=80=9D So, that kind =
of negates the
> legends that seem to turn up in just about all car makes.

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<p dir=3D"ltr">Not sure that&#39;s its myth or legends in the marques, just=
 the nature of many people embellishing stories to make their car seen more=
 special or making things up on the fly rather than saying they don&#39;t k=
now an answer to a question. </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Also the other thing I love.... because it&#39;s on my car..=
. or because I fitted it 20 years ago it&#39;s now &quot; factory&quot; or =
&quot;original&quot; </p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 1 Jun 2016 12:27, &quot;Tom Witt via Tigers&q=
uot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
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ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex">
Perhaps his local dealer didn&#39;t have a black Tiger on the lot and none =
on the way. So he had to specifically order one if he wanted it.&lt;&lt;&lt=
;<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
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While that may be a reason for him not getting one =E2=80=93 when he wanted=
 it, he did state it was a =E2=80=9Cnot a standard color.=E2=80=9D So, that=
 kind of negates the possibility proposed being the answer.=C2=A0 Somewhere=
 in Tigerdom there is as color picture of the first shipment of west coast =
Tigers. Amidst the shipment of Tigers are a number of black ones.=C2=A0 I t=
ried counting them and wondered of #101 was in the mix.=C2=A0 It is amazing=
 the number of myths and legends that seem to turn up in just about all car=
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