Subject: [Tigers] Electrical Issue Solved

From: James Lindner via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 16:03:13 -0400

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Hi Listers

If you recall I was experiencing some problems with my charging system. =
My first guess was a problem with the Voltage regulator since I have had =
problems in the past. I switched out a couple different regulators, but =
that did not correct the problem. I then turned to the generator and had =
it bench tested...it bench-tested OK. So then I turned to the =
wiring/grounds/connections. After a lot of fiddling still no charging. =
So I went back to the generator and had it rebuilt despite the positive =
bench test. That did it. The ignition warning lamp is off and I am =
getting a solid 14.5v @ 1500 rpm at the battery.

Thanks to all who contributed input. It is always a big help.

Jim
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>If you recall I was experiencing some problems with my charging =
system. My=20
first guess was a problem with the Voltage regulator since I have had =
problems=20
in the past. I switched out a couple different regulators, but that did =
not=20
correct the problem. I then turned to the generator and had it bench =
tested...it=20
bench-tested OK. So then I turned to the wiring/grounds/connections. =
After a lot=20
of fiddling still no charging. So I went back to the generator and had =
it=20
rebuilt despite the positive bench test. That did it. The ignition =
warning lamp=20
is off and I am getting a solid 14.5v @ 1500 rpm at the battery.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks to all who contributed input. It is always a big help.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 16:45:42 -0400

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Jim
    Glad you got to the Root of your charging problem.
=20
I use to have mostly problems with my VR.  I had to run with the cover =
off
and every now and again I would have to clear the points in the VR to =
get
voltage.
I installed a volt meter under the dash so I could keep better track of =
what
was going on with the charging system.
=20
Coming home from the TE/AE United in 1998, the generator gave up.  =
Mostly
the brushes were worn and I had to use a hammer on the generator about =
every
50 miles to keep the charge going.  The generator needed complete =
rebuild by
the time I got home.
=20
That is when I really started thinking about converting to an alternator
system.  It took several years for me to organize the parts and come up =
with
an install plan but I did come up with a fairly easy install plan; in =
case
your interested.
=20
Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of James
Lindner via Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 4:03 PM
To: Tiger List
Subject: [Tigers] Electrical Issue Solved

Hi Listers
=20
If you recall I was experiencing some problems with my charging system. =
My
first guess was a problem with the Voltage regulator since I have had
problems in the past. I switched out a couple different regulators, but =
that
did not correct the problem. I then turned to the generator and had it =
bench
tested...it bench-tested OK. So then I turned to the
wiring/grounds/connections. After a lot of fiddling still no charging. =
So I
went back to the generator and had it rebuilt despite the positive bench
test. That did it. The ignition warning lamp is off and I am getting a =
solid
14.5v @ 1500 rpm at the battery.
=20
Thanks to all who contributed input. It is always a big help.
=20
Jim

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D609162920-20052015>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Glad you got to the Root =
of your=20
charging&nbsp;problem.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D609162920-20052015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D609162920-20052015>I use=20
to have mostly problems with my VR.&nbsp; I had to run with the cover =
off and=20
every now and again I would have to clear the points in the VR to get=20
voltage.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D609162920-20052015>I=20
installed a volt meter under the dash so I could keep better track of =
what was=20
going on with the charging system.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D609162920-20052015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D609162920-20052015>Coming=20
home from the TE/AE United in 1998, the generator gave up.&nbsp; Mostly =
the=20
brushes were worn and I had to use a hammer on the generator about every =
50=20
miles to keep the charge going.&nbsp; The generator needed complete =
rebuild by=20
the time I got home.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D609162920-20052015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D609162920-20052015>That=20
is when I really started thinking about converting to an alternator=20
system.&nbsp; It took several years for me to organize the parts and =
come up=20
with&nbsp;an install plan but I did come up with a fairly easy install =
plan; in=20
case your interested.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D609162920-20052015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D609162920-20052015>Ron=20
Fraser</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2=20
  face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Tigers=20
  [mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>James =
Lindner via=20
  Tigers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 20, 2015 4:03 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
Tiger=20
  List<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Tigers] Electrical Issue =
Solved<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">
  <DIV>Hi Listers</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>If you recall I was experiencing some problems with my charging =
system.=20
  My first guess was a problem with the Voltage regulator since I have =
had=20
  problems in the past. I switched out a couple different regulators, =
but that=20
  did not correct the problem. I then turned to the generator and had it =
bench=20
  tested...it bench-tested OK. So then I turned to the=20
  wiring/grounds/connections. After a lot of fiddling still no charging. =
So I=20
  went back to the generator and had it rebuilt despite the positive =
bench test.=20
  That did it. The ignition warning lamp is off and I am getting a solid =
14.5v @=20
  1500 rpm at the battery.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Thanks to all who contributed input. It is always a big =
help.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Jim</DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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From: CoolVT--- via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 17:40:37 -0400

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Ron,
Would like to see the bracket that you're using. I made one up from  
aluminum and it has worked fine for 4 yrs. but would like to change it to  
something that I have total confidence in.  I know I can bite the bullet  and get a 
great one for about $200, but if there is a cheaper  way.................  
Mark

In a message dated 5/20/2015 4:47:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email-masked] writes:

Jim
 
I  use to have mostly problems with my VR.  I had to run with the cover off 
 and every now and again I would have to clear the points in the VR to get  
voltage.
I  installed a volt meter under the dash so I could keep better track of 
what was  going on with the charging system.
 
Coming home from the TE/AE United in 1998, the  generator gave up.  Mostly 
the brushes were worn and I had to use a  hammer on the generator about 
every 50 miles to keep the charge going.   The generator needed complete rebuild 
by the time I got  home.
 
That  is when I really started thinking about converting to an alternator  
system.  It took several years for me to organize the parts and come up  
with an install plan but I did come up with a fairly easy install plan;  in 
case your interested.
 
Ron  Fraser

-----Original Message-----

Hi Listers
 
If you recall I was experiencing some problems with my charging system.  My 
first guess was a problem with the Voltage regulator since I have had  
problems in the past. I switched out a couple different regulators, but that  
did not correct the problem. I then turned to the generator and had it bench  
tested...it bench-tested OK. So then I turned to the  
wiring/grounds/connections. After a lot of fiddling still no charging. So I  went back to the 
generator and had it rebuilt despite the positive bench  test. That did it. The 
ignition warning lamp is off and I am getting a solid  14.5v @ 1500 rpm at 
the battery.

Jim

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<DIV><STRONG>Would like to see the bracket that you're using. I made one=
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=20
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let=20
and get a great one for about $200, but if there is a cheaper=20
way.................&nbsp; Mark</STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 5/20/2015 4:47:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20
[email-masked] writes:</DIV>
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  class=3D609162920-20052015>Jim</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3D609162920-20052015>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Glad you got to the Root=
 of your=20
  charging&nbsp;problem.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3D609162920-20052015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D609162920=
-20052015>I=20
  use to have mostly problems with my VR.&nbsp; I had to run with the cove=
r off=20
  and every now and again I would have to clear the points in the VR to ge=
t=20
  voltage.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D609162920=
-20052015>I=20
  installed a volt meter under the dash so I could keep better track of wh=
at was=20
  going on with the charging system.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3D609162920-20052015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3D609162920-20052015>Coming home from the TE/AE United in 1998, th=
e=20
  generator gave up.&nbsp; Mostly the brushes were worn and I had to use=
 a=20
  hammer on the generator about every 50 miles to keep the charge going.&n=
bsp;=20
  The generator needed complete rebuild by the time I got=20
  home.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3D609162920-20052015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D609162920=
-20052015>That=20
  is when I really started thinking about converting to an alternator=20
  system.&nbsp; It took several years for me to organize the parts and com=
e up=20
  with&nbsp;an install plan but I did come up with a fairly easy install=
 plan;=20
  in case your interested.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3D609162920-20052015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D609162920=
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    Tigers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 20, 2015 4:03 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000"=
    <DIV>Hi Listers</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>If you recall I was experiencing some problems with my charging=
 system.=20
    My first guess was a problem with the Voltage regulator since I have=
 had=20
    problems in the past. I switched out a couple different regulators, bu=
t that=20
    did not correct the problem. I then turned to the generator and had it=
 bench=20
    tested...it bench-tested OK. So then I turned to the=20
    wiring/grounds/connections. After a lot of fiddling still no charging.=
 So I=20
    went back to the generator and had it rebuilt despite the positive ben=
ch=20
    test. That did it. The ignition warning lamp is off and I am getting=
 a solid=20
    14.5v @ 1500 rpm at the battery.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Thanks to all who contributed input. It is always a big help.</DI=
V>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Jim</DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>_______________________=
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This is what solved all my generator/voltage regulator issues:  PowerGen
82101-2.

http://www.summitracing.com/oh/parts/pwm-82101-2

This version is a two-wire system, one for the charging, the other for your
dash light. I gutted an old VR and dummied the wires to look original, and
the pulleys swap easily. 

This alternator makes more current at idle then the generator did at full
tilt. It's not the cheapest option but there are no brackets or mounts to
buy. I run with my lights on all the time anymore with the distracted idiot
factor being so high, so having lots of juice (75+ amps) is a requirement. 

Bugz

Hi Listers

If you recall I was experiencing some problems with my charging system. My
first guess was a problem with the Voltage regulator since I have had
problems in the past. I switched out a couple different regulators, but that
did not correct the problem. I then turned to the generator and had it bench
tested...it bench-tested OK. So then I turned to the
wiring/grounds/connections. After a lot of fiddling still no charging. So I
went back to the generator and had it rebuilt despite the positive bench
test. That did it. The ignition warning lamp is off and I am getting a solid
14.5v @ 1500 rpm at the battery.

Jim

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A'>This is what solved all my generator/voltage regulator issues: =
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A'>This version is a two-wire system, one for the charging, the other =
for your dash light. I gutted an old VR and dummied the wires to look =
original, and the pulleys swap easily. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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A'>This alternator makes more current at idle then the generator did at =
full tilt. It&#8217;s not the cheapest option but there are no brackets =
or mounts to buy. I run with my lights on all the time anymore with the =
distracted idiot factor being so high, so having lots of juice (75+ =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James =
Lindner via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 20, 2015 4:03 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger List<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Electrical Issue =
Solved<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi =
Listers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>If you recall I =
was experiencing some problems with my charging system. My first guess =
was a problem with the Voltage regulator since I have had problems in =
the past. I switched out a couple different regulators, but that did not =
correct the problem. I then turned to the generator and had it bench =
tested...it bench-tested OK. So then I turned to the =
wiring/grounds/connections. After a lot of fiddling still no charging. =
So I went back to the generator and had it rebuilt despite the positive =
bench test. That did it. The ignition warning lamp is off and I am =
getting a solid 14.5v @ 1500 rpm at the =
battery.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks to all =
who contributed input. It is always a big =
help.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Jim<o:p></o:p></=
span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>
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