Subject: Re: [Tigers] "Who's Your Mamma"?

From: "Teepen, Jere via Tigers" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 00:21:59 +0000

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Any information on the who, what, where, when?

From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of J D Johnso=
n via Tigers
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 9:39 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Tigers] "Who's Your Mamma"?

Anybody know if this car is still around?
[Emacs!]

JD

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font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@=
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>J D Johnson via Tigers<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 15, 2015 9:39 AM<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Anybody know if this car is still around?<br>
<img width=3D"1240" height=3D"395" id=3D"_x0000_i1025" src=3D"cid:image001.=
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From: J D Johnson via Tigers <[email-masked]>
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Exactly Jere!  Found this on Miller's site:
Emacs!

JD

>Any information on the who, what, where, when?

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Exactly Jere!&nbsp; Found this on Miller's site:<br>
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Its hard to tell in the resolution of the photo, but it does look to me
like the scripts on the fenders read Alpine...which with the side trim and
badges, could make it an Alpine 260. Also, I swear I see a rack under the
front end. which, again, doesn't guarantee its a Tiger but I don't see the
4 cylinder idea.

Cullen McCann
Yukon

=E2=80=8B

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Its hard to tell in the resolution of the photo, but =
it does look to me like the scripts on the fenders=C2=A0read Alpine...which=
 with the side trim and badges, could make it an Alpine 260. Also, I swear =
I see a rack under the front end. which, again, doesn&#39;t guarantee its a=
 Tiger but I don&#39;t see the 4 cylinder=C2=A0idea. </div><div><br></div><=
div>Cullen McCann=C2=A0</div><div>Yukon</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>=
<div><img width=3D"1228" height=3D"390" style=3D"margin-right: 0px;" src=3D=
"cid:ii_i9u8ejzx0_14d684eac2191b60"><br>=E2=80=8B</div><div><br></div></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 15, =
2015 at 7:21 PM, Teepen, Jere via Tigers <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
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t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Any information on the who, what=
, where, when?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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ns-serif;font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"> Tigers [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:t=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>J D Johnson via Tigers<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Anybody know if this car is still around?<br>
<img width=3D"1240" height=3D"395" alt=3D"Emacs!" src=3D"cid:image001.jpg@0=
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It does appear to have a traction bar hanging below the rear spring, =
hardly a need in an Alpine.

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I played some Photoshop tricks to bring out the details. First one is =
low contrast for the body, sure looks like =E2=80=9CAlpine=E2=80=9D to =
me as well.

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This is high contrast of the front suspension, it appears there is a =
steering arm coming down to the front of the spindle, ala Tiger.

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If the front wheels were turned just a little more we could tell by the =
Akkerman angle=E2=80=A6

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A'>It does appear to have a traction bar hanging below the rear spring, =
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A'>I played some Photoshop tricks to bring out the details. First one is =
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A'>This is high contrast of the front suspension, it appears there is a =
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From: Jay Laifman via Tigers <[email-masked]>
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I have an NOS shipping box from Traction Masters, from the 60s, with the
factory label stating it's for the Alpine - and still having the unused
Traction Master inside.  So someone thought to put them on Alpines!

Jay

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Mark Rense via Tigers <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> It does appear to have a traction bar hanging below the rear spring,
> I played some Photoshop tricks to bring out the details. First one is low
> contrast for the body, sure looks like =E2=80=9CAlpine=E2=80=9D to me as =
well.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This is high contrast of the front suspension, it appears there is a
> If the front wheels were turned just a little more we could tell by the
> Akkerman angle=E2=80=A6
>
>
>
> Bugz
>
>
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I have an NOS shipping box from Traction Masters, from the=
 60s, with the factory label stating it&#39;s for the Alpine - and still ha=
ving the unused Traction Master inside.=C2=A0 So someone thought to put the=
m on Alpines!<div><br></div><div>Jay</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Mark Rense =
via Tigers <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote=
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d;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#44546a">It does appear to have a=
 traction bar hanging below the rear spring, hardly a need in an Alpine.<u>=
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If you zoom in on the script it seems more like the five letters of =
=E2=80=9CTiger=E2=80=9D than the six letters of =
=E2=80=9CAlpine.=E2=80=9D In the word Alpine there is no cross mark like =
the letter =E2=80=9CT=E2=80=9D that also seems to appear in the picture. =
 While I=E2=80=99m sure it can be argued that the side trim and script =
could have been added, was that going on a lot in the late 60=E2=80=99s =
early 70=E2=80=99s that this picture seems to depict?  In the high =
contrast picture, just after the forward mounting point of the traction =
bar, it looks like the lower end of the rear end.  Assuming the Dana 44 =
is larger than the Alpine rear it might be another point to consider.=20
From: Jay Laifman via Tigers=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 2:10 PM
To: Mark Rense=20
Cc: Tiger's Den=20
Subject: Re: [Tigers] "Who's Your Mamma"?

I have an NOS shipping box from Traction Masters, from the 60s, with the =
factory label stating it's for the Alpine - and still having the unused =
Traction Master inside.  So someone thought to put them on Alpines!=20

Jay

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Mark Rense via Tigers =
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  If the front wheels were turned just a little more we could tell by =
the Akkerman angle=E2=80=A6

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<DIV>If you zoom in on the script it seems more like the five letters of =
=E2=80=9CTiger=E2=80=9D=20
than the six letters of =E2=80=9CAlpine.=E2=80=9D In the word Alpine =
there is no cross mark like=20
the letter =E2=80=9CT=E2=80=9D that also seems to appear in the =
picture.&nbsp; While I=E2=80=99m sure it=20
can be argued that the side trim and script could have been added, was =
that=20
going on a lot in the late 60=E2=80=99s early 70=E2=80=99s that this =
picture seems to=20
depict?&nbsp; In the high contrast picture, just after the forward =
mounting=20
point of the traction bar, it looks like the lower end of the rear =
end.&nbsp;=20
Assuming the Dana 44 is larger than the Alpine rear it might be another =
point to=20
consider.=20
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Jay Laifman via Tigers</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 19, 2015 2:10 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
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<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>I have an NOS shipping box from Traction Masters, from =
the 60s,=20
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<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Mark Rense via =
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<SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
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  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: =
#44546a'>It=20
  does appear to have a traction bar hanging below the rear spring, =
hardly a=20
  need in an Alpine.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: =
#44546a'><U></U><U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: =
#44546a'>I=20
  played some Photoshop tricks to bring out the details. First one is =
low=20
  contrast for the body, sure looks like =E2=80=9CAlpine=E2=80=9D to me =
as=20
  well.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: =
#44546a'><U></U><U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
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  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: =
#44546a'><IMG=20
  alt=3Dcid:[email-masked]=20
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#44546a'><U></U><U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
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  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: =
#44546a'>This=20
  is high contrast of the front suspension, it appears there is a =
steering arm=20
  coming down to the front of the spindle, ala =
Tiger.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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  alt=3Dcid:[email-masked]=20
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  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: =
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#44546a'><U></U><U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
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  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: =
#44546a'>If=20
  the front wheels were turned just a little more we could tell by the =
Akkerman=20
  angle=E2=80=A6<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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and it=E2=80=99s a Tiger.

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Subject: Re: [Tigers] "Who's Your Mamma"?

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D'>I have an 8x10 of this picture directly from Dave=E2=80=A6took the =
picture out of the album to reveal any secrets on the back- simply says =
=E2=80=9CNassau 1964=E2=80=9D- although, Dave told me it was Sydney Oaks =
and it=E2=80=99s a Tiger.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom =
Witt via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 20, 2015 9:39 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] =
&quot;Who's Your Mamma&quot;?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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on the script it seems more like the five letters of =
=E2=80=9CTiger=E2=80=9D than the six letters of =
=E2=80=9CAlpine.=E2=80=9D In the word Alpine there is no cross mark like =
the letter =E2=80=9CT=E2=80=9D that also seems to appear in the =
picture.&nbsp; While I=E2=80=99m sure it can be argued that the side =
trim and script could have been added, was that going on a lot in the =
late 60=E2=80=99s early 70=E2=80=99s that this picture seems to =
depict?&nbsp; In the high contrast picture, just after the forward =
mounting point of the traction bar, it looks like the lower end of the =
rear end.&nbsp; Assuming the Dana 44 is larger than the Alpine rear it =
might be another point to consider. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
 <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
title=3D"[email-masked]">Jay Laifman via Tigers</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
Sent:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
 Tuesday, May 19, 2015 2:10 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
To:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
 <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
title=3D"[email-masked]">Mark Rense</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
Cc:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
 <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
title=3D"[email-masked]">Tiger's Den</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
Subject:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
 Re: [Tigers] &quot;Who's Your =
Mamma&quot;?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I have an NOS =
shipping box from Traction Masters, from the 60s, with the factory label =
stating it's for the Alpine - and still having the unused Traction =
Master inside.&nbsp; So someone thought to put them on Alpines! =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Jay<o:p></o:p></=
span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On Tue, May 19, =
2015 at 2:00 PM, Mark Rense via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546=
A'>It does appear to have a traction bar hanging below the rear spring, =
hardly a need in an Alpine.</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546=
A'>I played some Photoshop tricks to bring out the details. First one is =
low contrast for the body, sure looks like =E2=80=9CAlpine=E2=80=9D to =
me as well.</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546=
A'><img border=3D0 width=3D792 height=3D395 id=3D"_x0000_i1025" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" =
alt=3D"cid:[email-masked]"></span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546=
A'>This is high contrast of the front suspension, it appears there is a =
steering arm coming down to the front of the spindle, ala =
Tiger.</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546=
A'><img border=3D0 width=3D504 height=3D220 id=3D"_x0000_i1026" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" =
alt=3D"cid:[email-masked]"></span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546=
A'>If the front wheels were turned just a little more we could tell by =
the Akkerman angle=E2=80=A6</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546=
A'>Bugz</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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