Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 181, Issue 2

From: wilkmanracing--- via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2026 18:58:18 +0000 (UTC)

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Silly me. I thought this was a Sprite forum.=C2=A0
Bill1958 Sprite Iris Blue

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From: Weslake1330 <[email-masked]>
To: Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Budapest, NATO (OTAN) Europe, the EU,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Islamic immigration and healthcare
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CAMhoh1U086VzL_ZMH428L64qsUw6=3Dfb=3DBkMtxCZp7zVM+GgdTw=
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Hi list, some of you are don?t like it when I post stuff like this but
never challenge any of the points I make or even privately debate them with
me.=C2=A0 Some of you find them interesting and some have deleted this e-ma=
il
already.=C2=A0 Well, I read a lot of stuff on YouTube and regardless of any
opinion or political allegiances it does seem to me that not everyone
understands the basic of some issues and that leads to misunderstandings.
Sure, the list should be to discuss LBC stuff but I think the archive will
confirm other stuff, sometimes contentious (public drafting on the highway
and not in LBCs) topics get discussed.

Firstly, part of the reason countries are helping Ukraine in their fight
against Russian aggression and attacks, lie with The Budapest Memorandum on
Security signed in Budapest, Hungary, on 5 December 1994.=C2=A0 The summary=
 is
that Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons as part of a defence deal.=C2=A0=
 The
other obvious reason is that when one country attacks another and seeks to
completely invade it there is choice other countries have to make in
whether to sit back and do nothing or find a way to help. Thirdly you have
to consider a domino effect scenario where Russia defeats Ukraine and then
goes onto rebuild the USSR.=C2=A0 Maybe that sounds like a problem for the
Europeans and I guess it is, or at least first.=C2=A0 But if the dominos ca=
rry
on falling then you once again have a USSR that threatens the USA.

NATO is the North Atlantic (not North American) Treaty Organisation (the
French call it OTAN for French grammatical reasons I don?t understand).
It?s not a club of buddies to bully anyone but a club of buddies to defend
each other against a big bully.=C2=A0 It?s not a European idea or club and
Canada is a member.=C2=A0 Despite the rhetoric you might read or hear, NATO
isn?t a way for everyone apart from the USA to get defence on the cheap.
Not everyone in the club might agree that everyone is paying enough.
However, the member paying the most doesn?t say it will pay less but argues
others should pay more.=C2=A0 Why is that?=C2=A0 Well, you might have to do=
 your own
research on that.

Europe isn?t a country it?s a geographic region.=C2=A0 The EU is not the sa=
me
thing as Europe because the EU is a kind of club.=C2=A0 Strangely enough th=
e EU
has been viewed by some members and one ex-member as a club where not all
the members pay in enough money or get equal benefits out of it.=C2=A0 The
republic of Ireland is not in NATO but is in Europe and is in the EU.=C2=A0=
 The
United Kingdom (Great Britain, sort of) is in NATO and is in Europe but is
not in the EU (it left some years ago).

Is Europe being taken over by Islamic (Moslem) immigrants?=C2=A0 Well, I do=
n?t
think so.=C2=A0 I could make a joke and say that in England at least, the H=
indus
and Sikhs would never allow that to happen. You also have to understand
there are actually 2 major and one lesser Islamic group ? not sure if this
is quite the same thing as Catholics and Protestants but it?s how I like to
think of it.=C2=A0 Over the years I?ve worked alongside Moslems and they we=
re
great people and not extremists.

I read a lot that the reason Europeans have free healthcare is because they
rely on the US, as part of NATO, to protect them rather than pay for their
own protection.=C2=A0 In the UK free healthcare came into being after WW2 a=
nd
existed all the way through the Cold War at a time when the UK spent a lot
more on defence than it does now.=C2=A0 However, it?s not quite as encompas=
sing
as it used to be.=C2=A0 For example, when I was a child, medical prescripti=
ons
were free but for decades since there has been a fee to pay.=C2=A0 Similarl=
y,
all dental care was free when I was a child but now while it is still
subsidised there is 3 tier system of fees and it can still be very
expensive.=C2=A0 I think at least one country in Europe has free healthcare=
.=C2=A0 A
question to consider then is if the US spent less money on NATO and defense
generally would it be enough for free healthcare?

I think that?s all the stuff I believe I can help others with their
understanding of and I?m confident that listers are generally smarter than
everyone else but may have friends with lesser rides and knowledge
generally!=C2=A0 Also, while I have political opinions, I am not a member o=
f any
political party and haven?t always voted for the same political party.=C2=
=A0 I
have enlisted military service but not combat experience.=C2=A0 Recently I =
even
applied for and have been granted a HM Forces Veteran ID card and maybe
when I get my 3rd one it will actually correctly record the initials for my
Christian/Fore names. . . .

I?d like to finish with a quote from Henry Ford: ?Any man who thinks he can
be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better
take a closer look at the American Indian?.=C2=A0 However, it seems to be b=
unk
and that he never said that but did say a bunch of other stuff.=C2=A0 So, h=
ow
about a quote from the bible? Matthew Ch19 v30 (NIV) But many who are first
will be last, and many who are last will be first.

Daniel
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 &nbsp; immigration and healthcare (Weslake1330)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
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><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sat,=
 20 Jun 2026 23:20:32 +0100<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Weslake1330 &lt=
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il.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Spridge=
ts &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:spridg=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Budapest, NATO (OTAN) Europe, the EU,<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Islamic immigration and healthcar=
e<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; &lt;CAMhoh1U086VzL_ZMH428L64qsUw6=3Dfb=3DBkMtxCZp7zVM+GgdTw@mail.=
gmail.com&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=
=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi list, so=
me of you are don?t like it when I post stuff like this but<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">never challenge any of the points I make or even privately debat=
e them with<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">me.&nbsp; Some of you find them inter=
esting and some have deleted this e-mail<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">already.=
&nbsp; Well, I read a lot of stuff on YouTube and regardless of any<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">opinion or political allegiances it does seem to me that=
 not everyone<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">understands the basic of some issue=
s and that leads to misunderstandings.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sure, the =
list should be to discuss LBC stuff but I think the archive will<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">confirm other stuff, sometimes contentious (public drafting=
 on the highway<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">and not in LBCs) topics get discu=
ssed.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Firstly, part of=
 the reason countries are helping Ukraine in their fight<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">against Russian aggression and attacks, lie with The Budapest Memo=
randum on<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Security signed in Budapest, Hungary, o=
n 5 December 1994.&nbsp; The summary is<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">that Ukra=
ine gave up their nuclear weapons as part of a defence deal.&nbsp; The<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">other obvious reason is that when one country attacks=
 another and seeks to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">completely invade it there =
is choice other countries have to make in<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">whether=
 to sit back and do nothing or find a way to help. Thirdly you have<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">to consider a domino effect scenario where Russia defeat=
s Ukraine and then<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">goes onto rebuild the USSR.&nb=
sp; Maybe that sounds like a problem for the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Euro=
peans and I guess it is, or at least first.&nbsp; But if the dominos carry<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">on falling then you once again have a USSR that t=
hreatens the USA.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">NATO=
 is the North Atlantic (not North American) Treaty Organisation (the<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">French call it OTAN for French grammatical reasons I do=
n?t understand).<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">It?s not a club of buddies to bu=
lly anyone but a club of buddies to defend<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">each o=
ther against a big bully.&nbsp; It?s not a European idea or club and<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">Canada is a member.&nbsp; Despite the rhetoric you migh=
t read or hear, NATO<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">isn?t a way for everyone apa=
rt from the USA to get defence on the cheap.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Not =
everyone in the club might agree that everyone is paying enough.<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">However, the member paying the most doesn?t say it will pay=
 less but argues<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">others should pay more.&nbsp; Wh=
y is that?&nbsp; Well, you might have to do your own<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">research on that.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Europe isn?t a country it?s a geographic region.&nbsp; The EU is not the sa=
me<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">thing as Europe because the EU is a kind of cl=
ub.&nbsp; Strangely enough the EU<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">has been viewed=
 by some members and one ex-member as a club where not all<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">the members pay in enough money or get equal benefits out of it.&=
nbsp; The<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">republic of Ireland is not in NATO but =
is in Europe and is in the EU.&nbsp; The<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">United K=
ingdom (Great Britain, sort of) is in NATO and is in Europe but is<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">not in the EU (it left some years ago).<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Is Europe being taken over by Islamic (=
Moslem) immigrants?&nbsp; Well, I don?t<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">think so.=
&nbsp; I could make a joke and say that in England at least, the Hindus<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">and Sikhs would never allow that to happen. You also=
 have to understand<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">there are actually 2 major an=
d one lesser Islamic group ? not sure if this<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">is =
quite the same thing as Catholics and Protestants but it?s how I like to<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">think of it.&nbsp; Over the years I?ve worked along=
side Moslems and they were<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">great people and not e=
xtremists.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I read a lo=
t that the reason Europeans have free healthcare is because they<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">rely on the US, as part of NATO, to protect them rather tha=
n pay for their<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">own protection.&nbsp; In the UK f=
ree healthcare came into being after WW2 and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">exis=
ted all the way through the Cold War at a time when the UK spent a lot<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">more on defence than it does now.&nbsp; However, it?s=
 not quite as encompassing<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">as it used to be.&nbsp=
; For example, when I was a child, medical prescriptions<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">were free but for decades since there has been a fee to pay.&nbsp;=
 Similarly,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">all dental care was free when I was a=
 child but now while it is still<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">subsidised there=
 is 3 tier system of fees and it can still be very<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">expensive.&nbsp; I think at least one country in Europe has free healthca=
re.&nbsp; A<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">question to consider then is if the U=
S spent less money on NATO and defense<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">generally =
would it be enough for free healthcare?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">I think that?s all the stuff I believe I can help others =
with their<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">understanding of and I?m confident tha=
t listers are generally smarter than<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">everyone els=
e but may have friends with lesser rides and knowledge<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">generally!&nbsp; Also, while I have political opinions, I am not a me=
mber of any<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">political party and haven?t always vo=
ted for the same political party.&nbsp; I<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">have en=
listed military service but not combat experience.&nbsp; Recently I even<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">applied for and have been granted a HM Forces Veter=
an ID card and maybe<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">when I get my 3rd one it wil=
l actually correctly record the initials for my<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">C=
hristian/Fore names. . . .<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">I?d like to finish with a quote from Henry Ford: ?Any man who thinks h=
e can<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">be happy and prosperous by letting the gove=
rnment take care of him better<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">take a closer look=
 at the American Indian?.&nbsp; However, it seems to be bunk<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">and that he never said that but did say a bunch of other stuff.=
&nbsp; So, how<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">about a quote from the bible? Matt=
hew Ch19 v30 (NIV) But many who are first<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">will be=
 last, and many who are last will be first.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
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Well, it's supposed to be.  This kind of stuff is really not welcome here.

Jim Ryan

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On Sun, Jun 21, 2026, 3:16=E2=80=AFPM wilkmanracing--- via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Silly me. I thought this was a Sprite forum.
>
> Bill
> 1958 Sprite Iris Blue
>
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> On Sunday, June 21, 2026, 11:34 AM, [email-masked] <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>     [email-masked]
>
>     [email-masked]
>
>   1. No LBC - Budapest, NATO (OTAN) Europe, the EU, Islamic
>       immigration and healthcare (Weslake1330)
>
>
>     Islamic immigration and healthcare
> Message-ID:
>     <CAMhoh1U086VzL_ZMH428L64qsUw6=3Dfb=[email-masked]=
om>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"
>
> never challenge any of the points I make or even privately debate them wi=
th
> me.  Some of you find them interesting and some have deleted this e-mail
> already.  Well, I read a lot of stuff on YouTube and regardless of any
> Sure, the list should be to discuss LBC stuff but I think the archive wil=
l
> confirm other stuff, sometimes contentious (public drafting on the highwa=
y
> against Russian aggression and attacks, lie with The Budapest Memorandum =
on
> Security signed in Budapest, Hungary, on 5 December 1994.  The summary is
> that Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons as part of a defence deal.  Th=
e
> other obvious reason is that when one country attacks another and seeks t=
o
> whether to sit back and do nothing or find a way to help. Thirdly you hav=
e
> to consider a domino effect scenario where Russia defeats Ukraine and the=
n
> goes onto rebuild the USSR.  Maybe that sounds like a problem for the
> Europeans and I guess it is, or at least first.  But if the dominos carry
> It?s not a club of buddies to bully anyone but a club of buddies to defen=
d
> each other against a big bully.  It?s not a European idea or club and
> Canada is a member.  Despite the rhetoric you might read or hear, NATO
> However, the member paying the most doesn?t say it will pay less but argu=
es
> others should pay more.  Why is that?  Well, you might have to do your ow=
n
> research on that.
>
> Europe isn?t a country it?s a geographic region.  The EU is not the same
> thing as Europe because the EU is a kind of club.  Strangely enough the E=
U
> the members pay in enough money or get equal benefits out of it.  The
> republic of Ireland is not in NATO but is in Europe and is in the EU.  Th=
e
> United Kingdom (Great Britain, sort of) is in NATO and is in Europe but i=
s
> Is Europe being taken over by Islamic (Moslem) immigrants?  Well, I don?t
> think so.  I could make a joke and say that in England at least, the Hind=
us
> there are actually 2 major and one lesser Islamic group ? not sure if thi=
s
> is quite the same thing as Catholics and Protestants but it?s how I like =
to
> think of it.  Over the years I?ve worked alongside Moslems and they were
> I read a lot that the reason Europeans have free healthcare is because th=
ey
> rely on the US, as part of NATO, to protect them rather than pay for thei=
r
> own protection.  In the UK free healthcare came into being after WW2 and
> existed all the way through the Cold War at a time when the UK spent a lo=
t
> more on defence than it does now.  However, it?s not quite as encompassin=
g
> as it used to be.  For example, when I was a child, medical prescriptions
> were free but for decades since there has been a fee to pay.  Similarly,
> expensive.  I think at least one country in Europe has free healthcare.  =
A
> question to consider then is if the US spent less money on NATO and defen=
se
> understanding of and I?m confident that listers are generally smarter tha=
n
> generally!  Also, while I have political opinions, I am not a member of a=
ny
> political party and haven?t always voted for the same political party.  I
> have enlisted military service but not combat experience.  Recently I eve=
n
> when I get my 3rd one it will actually correctly record the initials for =
my
> I?d like to finish with a quote from Henry Ford: ?Any man who thinks he c=
an
> take a closer look at the American Indian?.  However, it seems to be bunk
> and that he never said that but did say a bunch of other stuff.  So, how
> about a quote from the bible? Matthew Ch19 v30 (NIV) But many who are fir=
st
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uff is really not welcome here.</div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail=3D"=
gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><p style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;color:navy">Jim Ryan<u></u><u></u></span></p=
><p style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px">=C2=A9=C2=BF=C2=A9=C2=AC</p></di=
v></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 21, 2026, 3:16=E2=80=AFPM wilkman=
racing--- via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">spr=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
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Silly me. I thought this was a Sprite forum.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Bill<=
/div><div>1958 Sprite Iris Blue<br><br><div><a style=3D"font-size:12px" hre=
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tribution" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">Sent from the all new AOL a=
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"n=
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ct line so it is more specific<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">than &quot;Re: Con=
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 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Today&#39;s Topics:<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0  1. No LBC - Budapest, NATO (O=
TAN) Europe, the EU, Islamic<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 immigration and healthcare (Weslake1330)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">----------------------------=
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div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sat, 20 Jun=
 2026 23:20:32 +0100<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Weslake1330 &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">wes=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Spridgets &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Spri=
dgets] No LBC - Budapest, NATO (OTAN) Europe, the EU,<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Islamic immigration and healthcare<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 &lt;CAMh=
oh1U086VzL_ZMH428L64qsUw6=3Dfb=3D<a href=3D"mailto:BkMtxCZp7zVM%2BGgdTw@mai=
l.gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]=
mail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charse=
t=3D&quot;utf-8&quot;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Hi list, some of you are don?t like it when I post stuff like this but<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">never challenge any of the points I make or even priv=
ately debate them with<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">me.=C2=A0 Some of you find=
 them interesting and some have deleted this e-mail<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">already.=C2=A0 Well, I read a lot of stuff on YouTube and regardless of =
any<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">opinion or political allegiances it does seem=
 to me that not everyone<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">understands the basic of=
 some issues and that leads to misunderstandings.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Sure, the list should be to discuss LBC stuff but I think the archive will=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">confirm other stuff, sometimes contentious (publ=
ic drafting on the highway<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">and not in LBCs) topic=
s get discussed.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">First=
ly, part of the reason countries are helping Ukraine in their fight<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">against Russian aggression and attacks, lie with The Bud=
apest Memorandum on<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Security signed in Budapest, =
Hungary, on 5 December 1994.=C2=A0 The summary is<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>that Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons as part of a defence deal.=C2=
=A0 The<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">other obvious reason is that when one cou=
ntry attacks another and seeks to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">completely inva=
de it there is choice other countries have to make in<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">whether to sit back and do nothing or find a way to help. Thirdly you =
have<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">to consider a domino effect scenario where R=
ussia defeats Ukraine and then<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">goes onto rebuild =
the USSR.=C2=A0 Maybe that sounds like a problem for the<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Europeans and I guess it is, or at least first.=C2=A0 But if the d=
ominos carry<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">on falling then you once again have =
a USSR that threatens the USA.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">NATO is the North Atlantic (not North American) Treaty Organisatio=
n (the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">French call it OTAN for French grammatical=
 reasons I don?t understand).<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">It?s not a club of =
buddies to bully anyone but a club of buddies to defend<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">each other against a big bully.=C2=A0 It?s not a European idea or =
club and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Canada is a member.=C2=A0 Despite the rh=
etoric you might read or hear, NATO<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">isn?t a way f=
or everyone apart from the USA to get defence on the cheap.<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Not everyone in the club might agree that everyone is paying eno=
ugh.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">However, the member paying the most doesn?t =
say it will pay less but argues<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">others should pay=
 more.=C2=A0 Why is that?=C2=A0 Well, you might have to do your own<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">research on that.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Europe isn?t a country it?s a geographic region.=C2=A0 The E=
U is not the same<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">thing as Europe because the EU =
is a kind of club.=C2=A0 Strangely enough the EU<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
has been viewed by some members and one ex-member as a club where not all<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the members pay in enough money or get equal benef=
its out of it.=C2=A0 The<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">republic of Ireland is n=
ot in NATO but is in Europe and is in the EU.=C2=A0 The<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">United Kingdom (Great Britain, sort of) is in NATO and is in Europ=
e but is<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">not in the EU (it left some years ago).<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Is Europe being taken =
over by Islamic (Moslem) immigrants?=C2=A0 Well, I don?t<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">think so.=C2=A0 I could make a joke and say that in England at lea=
st, the Hindus<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">and Sikhs would never allow that t=
o happen. You also have to understand<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">there are a=
ctually 2 major and one lesser Islamic group ? not sure if this<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">is quite the same thing as Catholics and Protestants but it?=
s how I like to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">think of it.=C2=A0 Over the years=
 I?ve worked alongside Moslems and they were<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">grea=
t people and not extremists.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">I read a lot that the reason Europeans have free healthcare is bec=
ause they<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">rely on the US, as part of NATO, to pro=
tect them rather than pay for their<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">own protectio=
n.=C2=A0 In the UK free healthcare came into being after WW2 and<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">existed all the way through the Cold War at a time when the=
 UK spent a lot<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">more on defence than it does now.=
=C2=A0 However, it?s not quite as encompassing<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">as=
 it used to be.=C2=A0 For example, when I was a child, medical prescription=
s<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">were free but for decades since there has been =
a fee to pay.=C2=A0 Similarly,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">all dental care wa=
s free when I was a child but now while it is still<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">subsidised there is 3 tier system of fees and it can still be very<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">expensive.=C2=A0 I think at least one country in Europ=
e has free healthcare.=C2=A0 A<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">question to consid=
er then is if the US spent less money on NATO and defense<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">generally would it be enough for free healthcare?<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I think that?s all the stuff I believe=
 I can help others with their<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">understanding of an=
d I?m confident that listers are generally smarter than<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">everyone else but may have friends with lesser rides and knowledge=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">generally!=C2=A0 Also, while I have political op=
inions, I am not a member of any<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">political party =
and haven?t always voted for the same political party.=C2=A0 I<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">have enlisted military service but not combat experience.=C2=
=A0 Recently I even<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">applied for and have been gra=
nted a HM Forces Veteran ID card and maybe<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">when I=
 get my 3rd one it will actually correctly record the initials for my<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">Christian/Fore names. . . .<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I?d like to finish with a quote from Henry Ford:=
 ?Any man who thinks he can<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">be happy and prospero=
us by letting the government take care of him better<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">take a closer look at the American Indian?.=C2=A0 However, it seems to =
be bunk<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">and that he never said that but did say a=
 bunch of other stuff.=C2=A0 So, how<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">about a quot=
e from the bible? Matthew Ch19 v30 (NIV) But many who are first<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">will be last, and many who are last will be first.<br></div>=
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/div><div>1958 Sprite Iris Blue<br><br><div><a style=3D"font-size:12px" hre=
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an &quot;Re: Contents of Spridgets digest...&quot;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Today&#39;s Topics:=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0  1. No LBC - B=
udapest, NATO (OTAN) Europe, the EU, Islamic<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 immigration and healthcare (Weslake1330)<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-----------=
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ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2026 23:20:32 +0100<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Wesla=
ke1330 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">wesla=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Spridgets &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
m.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Budap=
est, NATO (OTAN) Europe, the EU,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 Islamic immigration and healthcare<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID=
:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 &lt;CAMhoh1U086VzL_ZMH428L64=
qsUw6=3Dfb=3D<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D&quot;utf-8&quot;<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi list, some of you are don?t like it=
 when I post stuff like this but<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">never challenge =
any of the points I make or even privately debate them with<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">me.=C2=A0 Some of you find them interesting and some have delete=
d this e-mail<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">already.=C2=A0 Well, I read a lot o=
f stuff on YouTube and regardless of any<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">opinion =
or political allegiances it does seem to me that not everyone<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">understands the basic of some issues and that leads to misunde=
rstandings.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sure, the list should be to discuss L=
BC stuff but I think the archive will<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">confirm oth=
er stuff, sometimes contentious (public drafting on the highway<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">and not in LBCs) topics get discussed.<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Firstly, part of the reason countries are h=
elping Ukraine in their fight<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">against Russian agg=
ression and attacks, lie with The Budapest Memorandum on<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Security signed in Budapest, Hungary, on 5 December 1994.=C2=A0 Th=
e summary is<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">that Ukraine gave up their nuclear w=
eapons as part of a defence deal.=C2=A0 The<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">other=
 obvious reason is that when one country attacks another and seeks to<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">completely invade it there is choice other countries h=
ave to make in<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">whether to sit back and do nothing=
 or find a way to help. Thirdly you have<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">to consi=
der a domino effect scenario where Russia defeats Ukraine and then<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">goes onto rebuild the USSR.=C2=A0 Maybe that sounds like =
a problem for the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Europeans and I guess it is, or=
 at least first.=C2=A0 But if the dominos carry<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">o=
n falling then you once again have a USSR that threatens the USA.<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">NATO is the North Atlantic (not=
 North American) Treaty Organisation (the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">French =
call it OTAN for French grammatical reasons I don?t understand).<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">It?s not a club of buddies to bully anyone but a club of bu=
ddies to defend<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">each other against a big bully.=
=C2=A0 It?s not a European idea or club and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Canad=
a is a member.=C2=A0 Despite the rhetoric you might read or hear, NATO<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">isn?t a way for everyone apart from the USA to get de=
fence on the cheap.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Not everyone in the club migh=
t agree that everyone is paying enough.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">However, =
the member paying the most doesn?t say it will pay less but argues<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">others should pay more.=C2=A0 Why is that?=C2=A0 Well, yo=
u might have to do your own<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">research on that.<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Europe isn?t a country it=
?s a geographic region.=C2=A0 The EU is not the same<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">thing as Europe because the EU is a kind of club.=C2=A0 Strangely enoug=
h the EU<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">has been viewed by some members and one =
ex-member as a club where not all<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the members pay=
 in enough money or get equal benefits out of it.=C2=A0 The<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">republic of Ireland is not in NATO but is in Europe and is in th=
e EU.=C2=A0 The<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">United Kingdom (Great Britain, so=
rt of) is in NATO and is in Europe but is<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">not in =
the EU (it left some years ago).<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Is Europe being taken over by Islamic (Moslem) immigrants?=C2=A0=
 Well, I don?t<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">think so.=C2=A0 I could make a jok=
e and say that in England at least, the Hindus<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">an=
d Sikhs would never allow that to happen. You also have to understand<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">there are actually 2 major and one lesser Islamic grou=
p ? not sure if this<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">is quite the same thing as C=
atholics and Protestants but it?s how I like to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">t=
hink of it.=C2=A0 Over the years I?ve worked alongside Moslems and they wer=
e<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">great people and not extremists.<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I read a lot that the reason Europea=
ns have free healthcare is because they<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">rely on t=
he US, as part of NATO, to protect them rather than pay for their<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">own protection.=C2=A0 In the UK free healthcare came into =
being after WW2 and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">existed all the way through t=
he Cold War at a time when the UK spent a lot<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">mor=
e on defence than it does now.=C2=A0 However, it?s not quite as encompassin=
g<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">as it used to be.=C2=A0 For example, when I was=
 a child, medical prescriptions<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">were free but for=
 decades since there has been a fee to pay.=C2=A0 Similarly,<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">all dental care was free when I was a child but now while it is=
 still<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">subsidised there is 3 tier system of fees =
and it can still be very<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">expensive.=C2=A0 I think=
 at least one country in Europe has free healthcare.=C2=A0 A<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">question to consider then is if the US spent less money on NATO=
 and defense<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">generally would it be enough for fre=
e healthcare?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I think =
that?s all the stuff I believe I can help others with their<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">understanding of and I?m confident that listers are generally sm=
arter than<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">everyone else but may have friends wit=
h lesser rides and knowledge<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">generally!=C2=A0 Als=
o, while I have political opinions, I am not a member of any<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">political party and haven?t always voted for the same political=
 party.=C2=A0 I<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">have enlisted military service bu=
t not combat experience.=C2=A0 Recently I even<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">ap=
plied for and have been granted a HM Forces Veteran ID card and maybe<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">when I get my 3rd one it will actually correctly recor=
d the initials for my<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Christian/Fore names. . . .=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I?d like to finish wi=
th a quote from Henry Ford: ?Any man who thinks he can<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him be=
tter<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">take a closer look at the American Indian?.=
=C2=A0 However, it seems to be bunk<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">and that he n=
ever said that but did say a bunch of other stuff.=C2=A0 So, how<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">about a quote from the bible? Matthew Ch19 v30 (NIV) But ma=
ny who are first<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">will be last, and many who are l=
ast will be first.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dan=
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On Sun, 21 Jun 2026 at 20:31, Jim Ryan via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Well, it's supposed to be.  This kind of stuff is really not welcome here=
.
>> <https://aolapp.onelink.me/eG2g?pid=3DNativePlacement&c=3DUS_Acquisition=
_YMktg_320_EmailSignature_AttributionDL&af_sub1=3DAcquisition&af_sub2=3DUS_=
YMktg&af_sub3=3D&af_sub4=3D100002473&af_sub5=3DSentFromNewAOLApp__Interstit=
ial_&af_ios_store_cpp=3Dce85ce34-ad0f-4811-a92b-a172743b064e&af_android_url=
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bile.aolapp%26listing%3Demail_signature_attribution>
>>     <CAMhoh1U086VzL_ZMH428L64qsUw6=3Dfb=[email-masked].=
com>
>> understands the basic of some issues and that leads to misunderstandings=
.
>> Sure, the list should be to discuss LBC stuff but I think the archive wi=
ll
>> confirm other stuff, sometimes contentious (public drafting on the highw=
ay
>> Security signed in Budapest, Hungary, on 5 December 1994.  The summary i=
s
>> that Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons as part of a defence deal.  T=
he
>> other obvious reason is that when one country attacks another and seeks =
to
>> whether to sit back and do nothing or find a way to help. Thirdly you ha=
ve
>> to consider a domino effect scenario where Russia defeats Ukraine and th=
en
>> Europeans and I guess it is, or at least first.  But if the dominos carr=
y
>> It?s not a club of buddies to bully anyone but a club of buddies to defe=
nd
>> others should pay more.  Why is that?  Well, you might have to do your o=
wn
>> thing as Europe because the EU is a kind of club.  Strangely enough the =
EU
>> has been viewed by some members and one ex-member as a club where not al=
l
>> republic of Ireland is not in NATO but is in Europe and is in the EU.  T=
he
>> United Kingdom (Great Britain, sort of) is in NATO and is in Europe but =
is
>> Is Europe being taken over by Islamic (Moslem) immigrants?  Well, I don?=
t
>> think so.  I could make a joke and say that in England at least, the
>> Hindus
>> there are actually 2 major and one lesser Islamic group ? not sure if th=
is
>> rely on the US, as part of NATO, to protect them rather than pay for the=
ir
>> existed all the way through the Cold War at a time when the UK spent a l=
ot
>> more on defence than it does now.  However, it?s not quite as encompassi=
ng
>> as it used to be.  For example, when I was a child, medical prescription=
s
 A
>> understanding of and I?m confident that listers are generally smarter th=
an
>> generally!  Also, while I have political opinions, I am not a member of
>> any
>> political party and haven?t always voted for the same political party.  =
I
>> have enlisted military service but not combat experience.  Recently I ev=
en
>> be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him bette=
r
>> take a closer look at the American Indian?.  However, it seems to be bun=
k
>> http://autox.team.net/pipermail/spridgets/attachments/20260620/4fb9c45e/=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Delete key not working?</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
 gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, 21 Ju=
n 2026 at 20:31, Jim Ryan via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Well, it&#39;s =
supposed to be.=C2=A0 This kind of stuff is really not welcome here.</div><=
div><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><p style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10pt;color:navy">Jim Ryan<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style=
=3D"font-size:12.8px">=C2=A9=C2=BF=C2=A9=C2=AC</p></div></div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 2=
1, 2026, 3:16=E2=80=AFPM wilkmanracing--- via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div=
Silly me. I thought this was a Sprite forum.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Bill<=
/div><div>1958 Sprite Iris Blue<br><br><div><a style=3D"font-size:12px" hre=
f=3D"https://aolapp.onelink.me/eG2g?pid=3DNativePlacement&amp;c=3DUS_Acquis=
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af_sub2=3DUS_YMktg&amp;af_sub3=3D&amp;af_sub4=3D100002473&amp;af_sub5=3DSen=
tFromNewAOLApp__Interstitial_&amp;af_ios_store_cpp=3Dce85ce34-ad0f-4811-a92=
b-a172743b064e&amp;af_android_url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2=
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tribution" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">Sent from the all new AOL a=
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ct line so it is more specific<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">than &quot;Re: Con=
tents of Spridgets digest...&quot;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Today&#39;s Topics:<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0  1. No LBC - Budapest, NATO (O=
TAN) Europe, the EU, Islamic<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 immigration and healthcare (Weslake1330)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">----------------------------=
------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sat, 20 Jun=
 2026 23:20:32 +0100<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Weslake1330 &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">wes=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Spridgets &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Spri=
dgets] No LBC - Budapest, NATO (OTAN) Europe, the EU,<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Islamic immigration and healthcare<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 &lt;CAMh=
oh1U086VzL_ZMH428L64qsUw6=3Dfb=3D<a href=3D"mailto:BkMtxCZp7zVM%2BGgdTw@mai=
l.gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
mail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charse=
t=3D&quot;utf-8&quot;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Hi list, some of you are don?t like it when I post stuff like this but<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">never challenge any of the points I make or even priv=
ately debate them with<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">me.=C2=A0 Some of you find=
 them interesting and some have deleted this e-mail<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">already.=C2=A0 Well, I read a lot of stuff on YouTube and regardless of =
any<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">opinion or political allegiances it does seem=
 to me that not everyone<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">understands the basic of=
 some issues and that leads to misunderstandings.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
chment-0001.htm" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Spridgets mailing list<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">S=
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