Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fusible Link

From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2025 08:26:30 -0400

Paul and all,

I was thinking about this last night while trying to fall asleep and came up with a simple plan to determine how big of a fuse or breaker you will need.  Remove the brown wire from the starter switch and install an inline fuse holder between the end of the wire and it's connection point on the starter switch.  All current used to run everything electrical on a Bugeye (except for the starter motor) goes through this wire.  Install a big fuse of your choice and turn everything on and see if the fuse holds.  Turn the key to the "On" position and then turn on the highbeam headlights, turn signals, heater fan, wipers, step on the brake pedal, and then blow the horn.  If the fuse is big enough it won't blow.  You can experiment with bigger and smaller fuses until you find the load.  When you find the fuse that blows go 20% bigger for a safety margin and you're good.  :-)

Rick

> On Apr 16, 2025, at 9:23 PM, David Woerpel via Spridgets <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> As an addendum to my earlier post I found this on "Experience"
> 
> https://www.ahexp.com/forum/the-sprite-forum.6/size-of-fuses-58-bugeye.229621/
> 
> Dave W
> 
> '59 :{)
> '59 MGA 1500
> 
> "Pay It Forward"
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4/16/2025 7:19 PM, Bill L. via Spridgets wrote:
>> Hello Paul,
>> 
>> 
>> There's something about the ratings of those old British fuses that's odd. They are IIRC slow blow so not rated as we would normally think them.
>> 
>> I know BugEyeGuy sells a dummy regulator )for use with a GENERNATOR with a 50A fuse link. I have one. .. On the other hand fuses are to protect the wires, not the devices that utilize the power. So what is the size (and thus the amperage rating of the wiring? I think that largest other than the starter is 14, (15A  capacity in house wiring) but even if it's 12 that's still only 20A. .. On the other hand the starter is wired with #4. That's 100A house wiring and a typical starter in an MGB (from my quick research) is over 250A.
>> 
>> All that taken into account, I think BugEyeGuy has it correct and the 50A fuse link has never cause me any problem.
>> 
>> (here's where I mention that I put my STEBEL horn on it's own fuse as it draws 18A.   125db IIRC.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From: Trevor Jessie via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2025 09:30:52 -0400

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I'm late to this convo, sorry if this has already been suggested, but
wouldn't an amp meter on the main feed answer the question.

-Trevor

On Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 8:37=E2=80=AFAM Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Paul and all,
>
> I was thinking about this last night while trying to fall asleep and came
> up with a simple plan to determine how big of a fuse or breaker you will
> need.  Remove the brown wire from the starter switch and install an inlin=
e
> fuse holder between the end of the wire and it's connection point on the
> starter switch.  All current used to run everything electrical on a Bugey=
e
> (except for the starter motor) goes through this wire.  Install a big fus=
e
> of your choice and turn everything on and see if the fuse holds.  Turn th=
e
> key to the "On" position and then turn on the highbeam headlights, turn
> signals, heater fan, wipers, step on the brake pedal, and then blow the
> horn.  If the fuse is big enough it won't blow.  You can experiment with
> bigger and smaller fuses until you find the load.  When you find the fuse
> that blows go 20% bigger for a safety margin and you're good.  :-)
>
> Rick
>
> > On Apr 16, 2025, at 9:23=E2=80=AFPM, David Woerpel via Spridgets <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
> >
> > =EF=BB=BFAs an addendum to my earlier post I found this on "Experience"
> >
> >
> https://www.ahexp.com/forum/the-sprite-forum.6/size-of-fuses-58-bugeye.22=
9621/
> >> There's something about the ratings of those old British fuses that's
> odd. They are IIRC slow blow so not rated as we would normally think them=
.
> >>
> >> I know BugEyeGuy sells a dummy regulator )for use with a GENERNATOR
> with a 50A fuse link. I have one. .. On the other hand fuses are to prote=
ct
> the wires, not the devices that utilize the power. So what is the size (a=
nd
> thus the amperage rating of the wiring? I think that largest other than t=
he
> starter is 14, (15A  capacity in house wiring) but even if it's 12 that's
> still only 20A. .. On the other hand the starter is wired with #4. That's
> 100A house wiring and a typical starter in an MGB (from my quick research=
)
> is over 250A.
> >>
> >> All that taken into account, I think BugEyeGuy has it correct and the
> 50A fuse link has never cause me any problem.
> >>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;m late to this convo, sorry if this has already bee=
n suggested, but wouldn&#39;t an amp meter on the main feed answer the ques=
tion.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">-Trevor</div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_attr">On Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 8:37=E2=80=AFAM Rick Fisk via Spridgets &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Paul and all,<br>
<br>
I was thinking about this last night while trying to fall asleep and came u=
p with a simple plan to determine how big of a fuse or breaker you will nee=
d.=C2=A0 Remove the brown wire from the starter switch and install an inlin=
e fuse holder between the end of the wire and it&#39;s connection point on =
the starter switch.=C2=A0 All current used to run everything electrical on =
a Bugeye (except for the starter motor) goes through this wire.=C2=A0 Insta=
ll a big fuse of your choice and turn everything on and see if the fuse hol=
ds.=C2=A0 Turn the key to the &quot;On&quot; position and then turn on the =
highbeam headlights, turn signals, heater fan, wipers, step on the brake pe=
dal, and then blow the horn.=C2=A0 If the fuse is big enough it won&#39;t b=
low.=C2=A0 You can experiment with bigger and smaller fuses until you find =
the load.=C2=A0 When you find the fuse that blows go 20% bigger for a safet=
y margin and you&#39;re good.=C2=A0 :-)<br>
<br>
Rick<br>
<br>
&gt; On Apr 16, 2025, at 9:23=E2=80=AFPM, David Woerpel via Spridgets &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefer=
rer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; =EF=BB=BFAs an addendum to my earlier post I found this on &quot;Exper=
ience&quot;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.ahexp.com/forum/the-sprite-forum.6/size-of-fuse=
s-58-bugeye.229621/" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https:=
//www.ahexp.com/forum/the-sprite-forum.6/size-of-fuses-58-bugeye.229621/</a=
><br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Dave W<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &#39;59 :{)<br>
&gt; &#39;59 MGA 1500<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &quot;Pay It Forward&quot;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; On 4/16/2025 7:19 PM, Bill L. via Spridgets wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Hello Paul,<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; There&#39;s something about the ratings of those old British fuses=
 that&#39;s odd. They are IIRC slow blow so not rated as we would normally =
think them.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; I know BugEyeGuy sells a dummy regulator )for use with a GENERNATO=
R with a 50A fuse link. I have one. .. On the other hand fuses are to prote=
ct the wires, not the devices that utilize the power. So what is the size (=
and thus the amperage rating of the wiring? I think that largest other than=
 the starter is 14, (15A=C2=A0 capacity in house wiring) but even if it&#39=
;s 12 that&#39;s still only 20A. .. On the other hand the starter is wired =
with #4. That&#39;s 100A house wiring and a typical starter in an MGB (from=
 my quick research) is over 250A.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; All that taken into account, I think BugEyeGuy has it correct and =
the 50A fuse link has never cause me any problem.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; (here&#39;s where I mention that I put my STEBEL horn on it&#39;s =
own fuse as it draws 18A.=C2=A0 =C2=A0125db IIRC.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><img src=3D"cid:ii_m9lkcsvr0" alt=3D"ch861126.gif" width=
=3D"562" height=3D"177"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote=
_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 8=
:33=E2=80=AFAM Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@auto=
x.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid=
 rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Paul and all,<br>
<br>
I was thinking about this last night while trying to fall asleep and came u=
p with a simple plan to determine how big of a fuse or breaker you will nee=
d.=C2=A0 Remove the brown wire from the starter switch and install an inlin=
e fuse holder between the end of the wire and it&#39;s connection point on =
the starter switch.=C2=A0 All current used to run everything electrical on =
a Bugeye (except for the starter motor) goes through this wire.=C2=A0 Insta=
ll a big fuse of your choice and turn everything on and see if the fuse hol=
ds.=C2=A0 Turn the key to the &quot;On&quot; position and then turn on the =
highbeam headlights, turn signals, heater fan, wipers, step on the brake pe=
dal, and then blow the horn.=C2=A0 If the fuse is big enough it won&#39;t b=
low.=C2=A0 You can experiment with bigger and smaller fuses until you find =
the load.=C2=A0 When you find the fuse that blows go 20% bigger for a safet=
y margin and you&#39;re good.=C2=A0 :-)<br>
<br>
Rick<br>
<br>
&gt; On Apr 16, 2025, at 9:23=E2=80=AFPM, David Woerpel via Spridgets &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; =EF=BB=BFAs an addendum to my earlier post I found this on &quot;Exper=
ience&quot;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.ahexp.com/forum/the-sprite-forum.6/size-of-fuse=
s-58-bugeye.229621/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ahexp=
.com/forum/the-sprite-forum.6/size-of-fuses-58-bugeye.229621/</a><br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Dave W<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &#39;59 :{)<br>
&gt; &#39;59 MGA 1500<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &quot;Pay It Forward&quot;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; On 4/16/2025 7:19 PM, Bill L. via Spridgets wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Hello Paul,<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; There&#39;s something about the ratings of those old British fuses=
 that&#39;s odd. They are IIRC slow blow so not rated as we would normally =
think them.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; I know BugEyeGuy sells a dummy regulator )for use with a GENERNATO=
R with a 50A fuse link. I have one. .. On the other hand fuses are to prote=
ct the wires, not the devices that utilize the power. So what is the size (=
and thus the amperage rating of the wiring? I think that largest other than=
 the starter is 14, (15A=C2=A0 capacity in house wiring) but even if it&#39=
;s 12 that&#39;s still only 20A. .. On the other hand the starter is wired =
with #4. That&#39;s 100A house wiring and a typical starter in an MGB (from=
 my quick research) is over 250A.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; All that taken into account, I think BugEyeGuy has it correct and =
the 50A fuse link has never cause me any problem.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; (here&#39;s where I mention that I put my STEBEL horn on it&#39;s =
own fuse as it draws 18A.=C2=A0 =C2=A0125db IIRC.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
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From: Paul Van Wig via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2025 10:00:40 -0700

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Thanks for all the input, it pointed out a few flaws in my thinking 	=
(but hey, I'm on pain killers after my knee replacement surgery a few =
days ago)

I haven=E2=80=99t used an amp gauge since one failed and stranded me on =
the side of a mountain in my CJ. All the car's power runs through a =
small gauge wire. Finding the problem, which was inside the gauge, took =
a bit of work. Bypassed the amp gauge and got it running just before =
dark.

It might make a good test setup

For now, I'm going to continue my LED conversion. I have already planned =
relays to reduce the power at the ignition switch for the lights. I =
think I will fuse every circuit and slip the idea on a single protection =
point

 Once again, this old list has come through. Thanks again.
I miss Frank

Paul Van Wig
Big Bear/Lakewood, CA

https://www.youtube.com/user/pvanwig/videos=20

=EF=BF=BC

1959 Nash Metropolitan "Tiffany" (the wife's fun ride) w/63MGB motor
1960 Bugeye =E2=80=9CFrogari=E2=80=9D
1968 Morris Minor Woody RHD =E2=80=9CThomas"
2005 Jeep Lives @ 7440'
2012 Turbo Diesel Ram 2500 4X4
2019 Hyundai Kona Electric
2021 Jeep Gladiator (the wife's Mountain car)
2022 Hyundai Ioniq 5 (the wife's work ride)

Does a golf cart count?

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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Thanks for all =
the input, it pointed out a few flaws in my thinking <span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>(but hey, =
I'm on pain killers after my knee replacement surgery a few days =
ago)<div><br><div>I haven=E2=80=99t used an amp =
gauge&nbsp;since&nbsp;one failed and stranded me on the side of a =
mountain in my CJ. All&nbsp;the car's power runs through a small gauge =
wire. Finding the problem, which was inside the gauge, took a bit of =
work. Bypassed the amp gauge and got it running&nbsp;just before =
dark.<div><br></div><div>It might make a good test =
setup</div><div><br></div><div>For now, I'm going to continue my LED =
conversion. I&nbsp;have already planned relays to reduce the power at =
the ignition switch for the lights. I think I will&nbsp;fuse every =
circuit and slip the idea on a single protection =
point</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;Once again, this old list has come =
through. Thanks again.</div><div>I miss Frank<br =
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Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: =
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none;"><font size=3D"2"><font class=3D"Apple-style-span">1959 Nash =
Metropolitan "Tiffany" (the wife's fun ride)&nbsp;</font>w/63MGB =
motor</font></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: small; text-align: -webkit-auto;">1960 Bugeye =
=E2=80=9CFrogari=E2=80=9D</span></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;"><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size: 12px;">1968 Morris =
Minor Woody RHD&nbsp;</span>=E2=80=9C<span style=3D"font-size: =
12px;">Thomas"</span></font></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
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font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
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0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;"><font =
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style=3D"border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px;"><div>2005 Jeep =
Lives @ 7440'</div></span></font></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, =
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normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; =
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none;"><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"2">2019 Hyundai Kona =
Electric</font></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: =
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normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;"><font size=3D"2" =
style=3D"text-align: -webkit-auto;">2021 Jeep =
Gladiator&nbsp;</font><span style=3D"font-size: small; text-align: =
-webkit-auto;">(the wife's Mountain car)</span></div><div =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: =
none;"><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"2">2022 Hyundai Ioniq 5 =
(</font><span style=3D"font-size: small; text-align: -webkit-auto; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;">the wife's work =
ride)</span></div></span></font></div></span></span></span></font></div><d=
iv style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
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font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; =
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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">lol=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Apr 17, 2025, at 12:=
18=E2=80=AFPM, Stan Fickes &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockq=
uote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div>&lt;ch861126.gif&gt;</div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote g=
mail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 17, 2=
025 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridge=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Paul and all,<br>
<br>
I was thinking about this last night while trying to fall asleep and came up=
 with a simple plan to determine how big of a fuse or breaker you will need.=
&nbsp; Remove the brown wire from the starter switch and install an inline f=
use holder between the end of the wire and it's connection point on the star=
ter switch.&nbsp; All current used to run everything electrical on a Bugeye (=
except for the starter motor) goes through this wire.&nbsp; Install a big fu=
se of your choice and turn everything on and see if the fuse holds.&nbsp; Tu=
rn the key to the "On" position and then turn on the highbeam headlights, tu=
rn signals, heater fan, wipers, step on the brake pedal, and then blow the h=
orn.&nbsp; If the fuse is big enough it won't blow.&nbsp; You can experiment=
 with bigger and smaller fuses until you find the load.&nbsp; When you find t=
he fuse that blows go 20% bigger for a safety margin and you're good.&nbsp; :=
-)<br>
<br>
Rick<br>
<br>
&gt; On Apr 16, 2025, at 9:23=E2=80=AFPM, David Woerpel via Spridgets &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; =EF=BB=BFAs an addendum to my earlier post I found this on "Experience"=
<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.ahexp.com/forum/the-sprite-forum.6/size-of-fuses=
-58-bugeye.229621/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ahexp.c=
om/forum/the-sprite-forum.6/size-of-fuses-58-bugeye.229621/</a><br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Dave W<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; '59 :{)<br>
&gt; '59 MGA 1500<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; "Pay It Forward"<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; On 4/16/2025 7:19 PM, Bill L. via Spridgets wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Hello Paul,<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; There's something about the ratings of those old British fuses that=
's odd. They are IIRC slow blow so not rated as we would normally think them=
.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; I know BugEyeGuy sells a dummy regulator )for use with a GENERNATOR=
 with a 50A fuse link. I have one. .. On the other hand fuses are to protect=
 the wires, not the devices that utilize the power. So what is the size (and=
 thus the amperage rating of the wiring? I think that largest other than the=
 starter is 14, (15A&nbsp; capacity in house wiring) but even if it's 12 tha=
t's still only 20A. .. On the other hand the starter is wired with #4. That'=
s 100A house wiring and a typical starter in an MGB (from my quick research)=
 is over 250A.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; All that taken into account, I think BugEyeGuy has it correct and t=
he 50A fuse link has never cause me any problem.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; (here's where I mention that I put my STEBEL horn on it's own fuse a=
s it draws 18A.&nbsp; &nbsp;125db IIRC.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
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