Subject: [Spridgets] Past present and future- no LBC

From: Weslake1330 via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 20:43:43 +0000

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Hi List,

I was born in the early 1960s in a rural part of the country and it seems
within walking distance of one of many nuclear missile stations here in
England.  It was too soon for ICBMs so America had our friendly assistance
in siting short range nuclear missiles in our country and within striking
range of the USSR - THOR (lots on YouTube and the internet about THOR).

I was at school for the moon landings and only decades later visited the
place where Neil Armstrong's famous words  were first heard.  That place
was not the USA but a British crown territory where the signal was received
and then sent onto the USA.  The place was Ascension Island (at least one
good fiction book was based on the island...).

I was an enlisted serviceman in the RAF where I saw one of the last b&w
photos of a Russian bear that had been live intercepted by a fighter from
my squadron.  About the same time I saw a piece of rubbish concrete that
arrived in the mail for a member of the squadron - it was a piece of the
Berlin wall.

The world order changed, the cold war ended and the world seemed a safer
place and maybe for a while it was.  Terrorist attacks continued around the
world and in various countries and still do.  So I guess this is the
present.

The future seems less safe and so I wanted to write this e-mail.  My
understanding is that lots of honest (not corrupt) and good countries are a
friend of the USA.  Also the good countries (think of NATO members as a
starting point) have the same common enemies as the USA does: Iran, North
Korea, China (Peoples Republic of China) and Russia.  However I guess Iran
and North Korea actually hate the USA and would like to nuke it and maybe
one day they will try to, but not bother with England/the UK or Europe or
maybe just not have enough missiles to try to do so.

The Ukraine has been invaded in part by Russia and the only reason they
haven't been totally taken over is because they fought back and had help
and support from the USA and Europe.  The Ukraine might be on their last
legs but in a different way so is Russia and they have both paid a hefty
price to date.

If you think back to my childhood where Europe was a willing buffer to help
keep the USSR at bay who targeted missiles (now ICBMs and sub delivered) at
the USA and Europe - it was a policy that worked.

So what I don't understand is why the USA would now be so friendly to
Russia.  Call the Ukraine a European problem and you might be right.
However, why be wholly on Russia's side who are propped up by North Korea
who have undoubtedly gained money and most likely warfare expertise
(nuclear and missile technology)?  Once Russia have what they want and so
does North Korea, is the world a more dangerous place and is the USA less
safe from rogue states than ever before?

Regards

Daniel

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi List,<div><br></div><div>I was born in the early 1960s =
in a rural part of the country and it seems within walking distance of one =
of many nuclear missile stations here in England.=C2=A0 It was too soon for=
 ICBMs so America had our friendly assistance in siting short range nuclear=
 missiles in our country and within striking range of the USSR - THOR (lots=
 on YouTube and the internet about THOR).</div><div><br></div><div>I was at=
 school for the moon landings and only decades later visited the place wher=
e Neil Armstrong&#39;s famous words=C2=A0 were first heard.=C2=A0 That plac=
e was not the USA but a British crown territory where the signal was receiv=
ed and then sent onto the USA.=C2=A0 The place was Ascension Island (at lea=
st one good fiction book was based on the island...).</div><div><br></div><=
div>I was an enlisted serviceman in the RAF where I saw one of the last b&a=
mp;w photos of a Russian bear that had been live intercepted by a fighter f=
rom my squadron.=C2=A0 About the same time I saw a piece of rubbish concret=
e that arrived in the mail for a member of the squadron - it was a piece of=
 the Berlin wall.</div><div><br></div><div>The world order changed, the col=
d war ended and the world seemed a safer place and maybe for a while it was=
.=C2=A0 Terrorist attacks continued around the world and in various countri=
es and still do.=C2=A0 So I guess this is the present.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>The future seems less safe and so I wanted to write this e-mail.=C2=A0=
 My understanding is that lots of honest (not corrupt) and good countries a=
re a friend of the USA.=C2=A0 Also the good countries (think of NATO member=
s as a starting point) have the same common enemies as the USA does: Iran, =
North Korea, China (Peoples Republic of China) and Russia.=C2=A0 However I =
guess Iran and North Korea actually hate the USA and would like to nuke it =
and maybe one day they will try to, but not bother with England/the UK or E=
urope or maybe just not have enough missiles to try to do so.</div><div><br=
></div><div>The Ukraine has been invaded in part by Russia and the only rea=
son they haven&#39;t been totally taken over is because they fought back an=
d had help and support from the USA and Europe.=C2=A0 The Ukraine might be =
on their last legs but in a different way so is Russia and they have both p=
aid a hefty price to date.</div><div><br></div><div>If you think back to my=
 childhood where Europe was a willing buffer to help keep the USSR at bay w=
ho targeted missiles (now ICBMs and sub delivered) at the USA and Europe - =
it was a policy that worked.</div><div><br></div><div>So what I don&#39;t u=
nderstand is why the USA would now be so friendly to Russia.=C2=A0 Call the=
 Ukraine a European problem and you might be right.=C2=A0 However, why be w=
holly on Russia&#39;s side who are propped up by North Korea who have undou=
btedly gained money and most likely warfare expertise (nuclear and missile =
technology)?=C2=A0 Once Russia have what they want and so does North Korea,=
 is the world a more dangerous place and is the USA less safe from rogue st=
ates than ever before?</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div=
><div><br></div><div>Daniel</div></div>

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From: nory1--- via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:14:40 +0000 Z+dczZx6xSEHC47UqHcT+WbDyp4dOBVo7JAlNu4kk41P5hE1w4U+XLQNUNr/X8Z6mm7nyj6el4ZLbPv0geriKLYoHyVH+dGCk5nubL57o5EKT/Qj382P4o63

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Many of us in the US did not vote for this administration, and are=0Ater=
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=0ANory=0A=0A=09-----------------------------------------From: "Weslake1=
330 via=0ASpridgets" =0ATo: "Spridgets"=0ACc: =0ASent: Monday February 2=
4 2025 3:54:49PM=0ASubject: [Spridgets] Past present and future- no LBC=
=0A=0A Hi List, =0A I was born in the early 1960s in a rural part of the=
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issile stations=0Ahere in England. It was too soon for ICBMs so America=
 had our friendly=0Aassistance in siting short range nuclear missiles in=
 our country and=0Awithin striking range of the USSR - THOR (lots on You=
Tube and the=0Ainternet about THOR). =0A I was at school for the moon la=
ndings and only decades later visited=0Athe place where Neil Armstrong's=
 famous words were first heard. That=0Aplace was not the USA but a Briti=
sh crown territory where the signal=0Awas received and then sent onto th=
e USA. The place was Ascension=0AIsland (at least one good fiction book=
 was based on the island...). =0A I was an enlisted serviceman in the RA=
F where I saw one of the last=0Ab&w photos of a Russian bear that had be=
en live intercepted by a=0Afighter from my squadron. About the same time=
 I saw a piece of rubbish=0Aconcrete that arrived in the mail for a memb=
er of the squadron - it=0Awas a piece of the Berlin wall. =0A The world=
 order changed, the cold war ended and the world seemed a=0Asafer place=
 and maybe for a while it was. Terrorist attacks continued=0Aaround the=
 world and in various countries and still do. So I guess=0Athis is the p=
resent. =0A The future seems less safe and so I wanted to write this e-m=
ail. My=0Aunderstanding is that lots of honest (not corrupt) and good co=
untries=0Aare a friend of the USA. Also the good countries (think of NAT=
O=0Amembers as a starting point) have the same common enemies as the USA=
=0Adoes: Iran, North Korea, China (Peoples Republic of China) and Russia=
.=0AHowever I guess Iran and North Korea actually hate the USA and would=
=0Alike to nuke it and maybe one day they will try to, but not bother=0A=
with England/the UK or Europe or maybe just not have enough missiles=0At=
o try to do so. =0A The Ukraine has been invaded in part by Russia and t=
he only reason=0Athey haven't been totally taken over is because they fo=
ught back and=0Ahad help and support from the USA and Europe. The Ukrain=
e might be on=0Atheir last legs but in a different way so is Russia and=
 they have both=0Apaid a hefty price to date. =0A If you think back to m=
y childhood where Europe was a willing buffer=0Ato help keep the USSR at=
 bay who targeted missiles (now ICBMs and sub=0Adelivered) at the USA an=
d Europe - it was a policy that worked. =0A So what I don't understand i=
s why the USA would now be so friendly to=0ARussia. Call the Ukraine a E=
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ia's side who are propped up by North=0AKorea who have undoubtedly gaine=
d money and most likely warfare=0Aexpertise (nuclear and missile technol=
ogy)? Once Russia have what they=0Awant and so does North Korea, is the=
 world a more dangerous place and=0Ais the USA less safe from rogue stat=
es than ever before? =0A Regards =0A=0A Daniel

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<html><body>Many of us in the US did not vote for this administration, a=
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re"></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: "Weslake=
1330 via Spridgets" <[email-masked]><br>To: "Spridgets"<br>Cc:=
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From: Philip Nase via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 20:23:55 -0500

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What Nory said!

Phil Nase

> On Feb 24, 2025, at 4:16=E2=80=AFPM, nory1--- via Spridgets <spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFMany of us in the US did not vote for this administration, and ar=
e terrified by what it is doing to our country and the rest of the world :(
>=20
> Nory
>=20
> -----------------------------------------
>=20
> From: "Weslake1330 via Spridgets"
> To: "Spridgets"
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday February 24 2025 3:54:49PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Past present and future- no LBC
>=20
> Hi List,
>=20
> I was born in the early 1960s in a rural part of the country and it seems w=
ithin walking distance of one of many nuclear missile stations here in Engla=
nd.  It was too soon for ICBMs so America had our friendly assistance in sit=
ing short range nuclear missiles in our country and within striking range of=
 the USSR - THOR (lots on YouTube and the internet about THOR).
>=20
> I was at school for the moon landings and only decades later visited the p=
lace where Neil Armstrong's famous words  were first heard.  That place was n=
ot the USA but a British crown territory where the signal was received and t=
hen sent onto the USA.  The place was Ascension Island (at least one good fi=
ction book was based on the island...).
>=20
> I was an enlisted serviceman in the RAF where I saw one of the last b&w ph=
otos of a Russian bear that had been live intercepted by a fighter from my s=
quadron.  About the same time I saw a piece of rubbish concrete that arrived=
 in the mail for a member of the squadron - it was a piece of the Berlin wal=
l.
>=20
> The world order changed, the cold war ended and the world seemed a safer p=
lace and maybe for a while it was.  Terrorist attacks continued around the w=
orld and in various countries and still do.  So I guess this is the present.=

>=20
> The future seems less safe and so I wanted to write this e-mail.  My under=
standing is that lots of honest (not corrupt) and good countries are a frien=
d of the USA.  Also the good countries (think of NATO members as a starting p=
oint) have the same common enemies as the USA does: Iran, North Korea, China=
 (Peoples Republic of China) and Russia.  However I guess Iran and North Kor=
ea actually hate the USA and would like to nuke it and maybe one day they wi=
ll try to, but not bother with England/the UK or Europe or maybe just not ha=
ve enough missiles to try to do so.
>=20
> The Ukraine has been invaded in part by Russia and the only reason they ha=
ven't been totally taken over is because they fought back and had help and s=
upport from the USA and Europe.  The Ukraine might be on their last legs but=
 in a different way so is Russia and they have both paid a hefty price to da=
te.
>=20
> If you think back to my childhood where Europe was a willing buffer to hel=
p keep the USSR at bay who targeted missiles (now ICBMs and sub delivered) a=
t the USA and Europe - it was a policy that worked.
>=20
> So what I don't understand is why the USA would now be so friendly to Russ=
ia.  Call the Ukraine a European problem and you might be right.  However, w=
hy be wholly on Russia's side who are propped up by North Korea who have und=
oubtedly gained money and most likely warfare expertise (nuclear and missile=
 technology)?  Once Russia have what they want and so does North Korea, is t=
he world a more dangerous place and is the USA less safe from rogue states t=
han ever before?
>=20
> Regards
>=20
>=20
> Daniel
> ------------------------
>=20
> [email-masked]
>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">What Nory said!<div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBe=
ginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Phil Nase</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 24, 2025, at 4:16=E2=80=AFPM, nory1--- via Spr=
idgets &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BFMany of us in the US did no=
t vote for this administration, and are terrified by what it is doing to our=
 country and the rest of the world :(<div><br></div><div>Nory<br><br><div cl=
ass=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>---------------------------------------=
--</p>From: "Weslake1330 via Spridgets" <[email-masked]><br>To: "S=
pridgets"<br>Cc: <br>Sent: Monday February 24 2025 3:54:49PM<br>Subject: [Sp=
ridgets] Past present and future- no LBC<br><br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi List,
<div><br></div>
<div>I was born in the early 1960s in a rural part of the country
and it seems within walking distance of one of many nuclear missile
stations here in England.&nbsp; It was too soon for ICBMs so
America had our friendly assistance in siting short range nuclear
missiles in our country and within striking range of the USSR -
THOR (lots on YouTube and the internet about THOR).</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I was at school for the moon landings and only decades later
visited the place where Neil Armstrong's famous words&nbsp; were
first heard.&nbsp; That place was not the USA but a British crown
territory where the signal was received and then sent onto the
USA.&nbsp; The place was Ascension Island (at least one good
fiction book was based on the island...).</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I was an enlisted serviceman in the RAF where I saw one of the
last b&amp;w photos of a Russian bear that had been live
intercepted by a fighter from my squadron.&nbsp; About the same
time I saw a piece of rubbish concrete that arrived in the mail for
a member of the squadron - it was a piece of the Berlin wall.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>The world order changed, the cold war ended and the world
seemed a safer place and maybe for a while it was.&nbsp; Terrorist
attacks continued around the world and in various countries and
still do.&nbsp; So I guess this is the present.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>The future seems less safe and so I wanted to write this
e-mail.&nbsp; My understanding is that lots of honest (not corrupt)
and good countries are a friend of the USA.&nbsp; Also the good
countries (think of NATO members as a starting point) have the same
common enemies as the USA does: Iran, North Korea, China (Peoples
Republic of China) and Russia.&nbsp; However I guess Iran and North
Korea actually hate the USA and would like to nuke it and maybe one
day they will try to, but not bother with England/the UK or Europe
or maybe just not have enough missiles to try to do so.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>The Ukraine has been invaded in part by Russia and the only
reason they haven't been totally taken over is because they fought
back and had help and support from the USA and Europe.&nbsp; The
Ukraine might be on their last legs but in a different way so is
Russia and they have both paid a hefty price to date.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>If you think back to my childhood where Europe was a willing
buffer to help keep the USSR at bay who targeted missiles (now
ICBMs and sub delivered) at the USA and Europe - it was a policy
that worked.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>So what I don't understand is why the USA would now be so
friendly to Russia.&nbsp; Call the Ukraine a European problem and
you might be right.&nbsp; However, why be wholly on Russia's side
who are propped up by North Korea who have undoubtedly gained money
and most likely warfare expertise (nuclear and missile
technology)?&nbsp; Once Russia have what they want and so does
North Korea, is the world a more dangerous place and is the USA
less safe from rogue states than ever before?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Regards</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Daniel</div>
</div>
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