Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ignition light

From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2023 23:32:13 -0400

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mik=
e,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">That means the generator=
 isn't genning. &nbsp;Check those brushes. &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Apr 7, 2023, at 9:03 PM, Michael MacLean via Sp=
ridgets &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"auto">Update.&=
nbsp; I started the engine got a nice idle then removed the battery ground s=
trap.&nbsp; The engine died immediately.<div dir=3D"auto">Mike M</div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri,=
 Apr 7, 2023, 12:35 PM Charley &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">c=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">You likely c=
hecked this; had the same issue on my BE, found a loose/funky wire at the vo=
ltage regulator.
<div><br>
</div>

<div>Hard to see from 'up top'.<br>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Cleaned them all and tightened and issue went away.</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Good luck,</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Charley<br>
<br>
<br>

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ize=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
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Sent: Fri, Apr 7, 2023 12:02 pm<br>
Subject: [Spridgets] Ignition light<br>
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<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Got into my Bugeye yesterday to drive to the dog p=
ark with my Boston Terrier.&nbsp; I was a little surprised when the ignition=
 light would not go out after I got the engine running.&nbsp; It started eas=
y enough, but I was now running on the battery.&nbsp; I am still using a gen=
erator that was rebuilt over 20 years and 7,000 miles ago.&nbsp; The voltage=
 regulator was converted to solid state eight or more years ago.&nbsp; Nothi=
ng apparent looking under the bonnet.&nbsp; I was hoping it was just the fan=
 belt. No such luck.&nbsp; Generator, generator brushes?&nbsp; I have a repl=
acement generator, but I don't want to just start throwing parts at it until=
 the light goes out.&nbsp; Maybe try to just re-polarize the generator first=
?&nbsp; I have a degree in mechanical design, not electrical.&nbsp; Hate ele=
ctrical problems.
<div>Mike MacLean</div>
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From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2023 23:24:38 -0700

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Generator is out of the car. It's off to the rebuild shop to check it out
tomorrow morning.  I originally mounted it without rebuilding when I
restored the car in 1999.  It was working OK, so I thought I would save
some money, painted it green and put it in.  The car ran from 1960 to 1976
before it was taken off the road.  That's 16 plus 24 years in service
without a hiccup.  Yes, maybe the brushes need replacement, at least.  If
it's not rebuildable, I will be looking for a core to rebuild.  I'll
probably know by tomorrow.
Mike M

On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 8:32=E2=80=AFPM Rick Fisk <[email-masked]> wro=
te:

> Mike,
>
> That means the generator isn't genning.  Check those brushes.
>
> On Apr 7, 2023, at 9:03 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> Update.  I started the engine got a nice idle then removed the battery
> ground strap.  The engine died immediately.
> Mike M
>
> On Fri, Apr 7, 2023, 12:35 PM Charley <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>> You likely checked this; had the same issue on my BE, found a loose/funk=
y
>> wire at the voltage regulator.
>>
>> Hard to see from 'up top'.
>>
>> Cleaned them all and tightened and issue went away.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Charley
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
>> To: Spridgets <[email-masked]>
>> Sent: Fri, Apr 7, 2023 12:02 pm
>> Subject: [Spridgets] Ignition light
>>
>>       Got into my Bugeye yesterday to drive to the dog park with my
>> Boston Terrier.  I was a little surprised when the ignition light would =
not
>> go out after I got the engine running.  It started easy enough, but I wa=
s
>> now running on the battery.  I am still using a generator that was rebui=
lt
>> over 20 years and 7,000 miles ago.  The voltage regulator was converted =
to
>> solid state eight or more years ago.  Nothing apparent looking under the
>> bonnet.  I was hoping it was just the fan belt. No such luck.  Generator=
,
>> generator brushes?  I have a replacement generator, but I don't want to
>> just start throwing parts at it until the light goes out.  Maybe try to
>> just re-polarize the generator first?  I have a degree in mechanical
>> design, not electrical.  Hate electrical problems.
>> Mike MacLean
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Generator is out of the car. It&#39;s off to the rebu=
ild shop to check it out tomorrow morning.=C2=A0 I originally mounted it wi=
thout rebuilding when I restored the car in 1999.=C2=A0 It was working OK, =
so I thought I would save some money, painted it green and put it in.=C2=A0=
 The car ran from 1960 to 1976 before it was taken off the road.=C2=A0 That=
&#39;s 16 plus 24 years in service without a hiccup.=C2=A0 Yes, maybe the b=
rushes need replacement, at least.=C2=A0 If it&#39;s not rebuildable, I wil=
l be looking for a core to rebuild.=C2=A0 I&#39;ll probably know by tomorro=
w.</div><div>Mike M<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 8:32=E2=80=AFPM Rick F=
isk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div di=
r=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike,</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">That means the generator isn&#39;t genning.=
=C2=A0 Check those brushes. =C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite">On Apr 7, 2023, at 9:03 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"auto">Update.=C2=A0 I started the =
engine got a nice idle then removed the battery ground strap.=C2=A0 The eng=
ine died immediately.<div dir=3D"auto">Mike M</div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 7, 2023, 12:=
35 PM Charley &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">You likely =
checked this; had the same issue on my BE, found a loose/funky wire at the =
voltage regulator.
<div><br>
</div>

<div>Hard to see from &#39;up top&#39;.<br>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Good luck,</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Charley<br>
<br>
<br>

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 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt;<br>
To: Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Fri, Apr 7, 2023 12:02 pm<br>
Subject: [Spridgets] Ignition light<br>
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<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Got into my Bugeye yesterday to drive to the dog =
park with my Boston Terrier.=C2=A0 I was a little surprised when the igniti=
on light would not go out after I got the engine running.=C2=A0 It started =
easy enough, but I was now running on the battery.=C2=A0 I am still using a=
 generator that was rebuilt over 20 years and 7,000 miles ago.=C2=A0 The vo=
ltage regulator was converted to solid state eight or more years ago.=C2=A0=
 Nothing apparent looking under the bonnet.=C2=A0 I was hoping it was just =
the fan belt. No such luck.=C2=A0 Generator, generator brushes?=C2=A0 I hav=
e a replacement generator, but I don&#39;t want to just start throwing part=
s at it until the light goes out.=C2=A0 Maybe try to just re-polarize the g=
enerator first?=C2=A0 I have a degree in mechanical design, not electrical.=
=C2=A0 Hate electrical problems.
<div>Mike MacLean</div>
</div>

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From: Weslake1330 via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2023 10:29:26 +0100

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Apologies in advance in case I'm talking out of my backside, but does the
generator (dynamo) need a good bulb to work?  Or put another way, if the
bulb dies does the generator fail to charge?

Somebody else. . .in between fitting ceiling coving.

On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 at 07:28, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> some money, painted it green and put it in.  The car ran from 1960 to 197=
6
> On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 8:32=E2=80=AFPM Rick Fisk <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>>> You likely checked this; had the same issue on my BE, found a
>>> loose/funky wire at the voltage regulator.
>>>
>>> Boston Terrier.  I was a little surprised when the ignition light would=
 not
>>> go out after I got the engine running.  It started easy enough, but I w=
as
>>> now running on the battery.  I am still using a generator that was rebu=
ilt
>>> over 20 years and 7,000 miles ago.  The voltage regulator was converted=
 to
>>> solid state eight or more years ago.  Nothing apparent looking under th=
e
>>> bonnet.  I was hoping it was just the fan belt. No such luck.  Generato=
r,
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Apologies in advance in case I&#39;m talking out of my bac=
kside, but does the generator (dynamo) need a good bulb to work?=C2=A0 Or p=
ut another way, if the bulb dies does the generator fail to charge?<div><br=
></div><div>Somebody else. . .in between fitting ceiling coving.</div></div=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sa=
t, 8 Apr 2023 at 07:28, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Ge=
nerator is out of the car. It&#39;s off to the rebuild shop to check it out=
 tomorrow morning.=C2=A0 I originally mounted it without rebuilding when I =
restored the car in 1999.=C2=A0 It was working OK, so I thought I would sav=
e some money, painted it green and put it in.=C2=A0 The car ran from 1960 t=
o 1976 before it was taken off the road.=C2=A0 That&#39;s 16 plus 24 years =
in service without a hiccup.=C2=A0 Yes, maybe the brushes need replacement,=
 at least.=C2=A0 If it&#39;s not rebuildable, I will be looking for a core =
to rebuild.=C2=A0 I&#39;ll probably know by tomorrow.</div><div>Mike M<br><=
/div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 8:32=E2=80=AFPM Rick Fisk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"au=
to"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">That means the generator isn&#39;t genning.=C2=A0 C=
heck those brushes. =C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te">On Apr 7, 2023, at 9:03 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"auto">Update.=C2=A0 I started the engine=
 got a nice idle then removed the battery ground strap.=C2=A0 The engine di=
ed immediately.<div dir=3D"auto">Mike M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 7, 2023, 12:35 PM =
Charley &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">cbaus=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">You likely =
checked this; had the same issue on my BE, found a loose/funky wire at the =
voltage regulator.
<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Good luck,</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Charley<br>
<br>
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Took the generator to a rebuild shop this morning.  It will be there until
Monday or Tuesday.  I asked them to see if there was any output just out of
curiosity.  He said he could barely get a flicker of electricity out of it
even at high RPM.  Now when I get it back hopefully the voltage regulator
(solid state) is functioning correctly.
Mike M

y
not
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to
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>> design, not electrical.  Hate electrical problems.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Took the generator to a rebuild shop this morning.=C2=
=A0 It will be there until Monday or Tuesday.=C2=A0 I asked them to see if =
there was any output just out of curiosity.=C2=A0 He said he could barely g=
et a flicker of electricity out of it even at high RPM.=C2=A0 Now when I ge=
t it back hopefully the voltage regulator (solid state) is functioning corr=
ectly.</div><div>Mike M<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 8:32=E2=80=AFPM Ric=
k Fisk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div=
 dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike,</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">That means the generator isn&#39;t genn=
ing.=C2=A0 Check those brushes. =C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite">On Apr 7, 2023, at 9:03 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"auto">Update.=C2=A0 I started =
the engine got a nice idle then removed the battery ground strap.=C2=A0 The=
 engine died immediately.<div dir=3D"auto">Mike M</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 7, 2023,=
 12:35 PM Charley &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">You likely =
checked this; had the same issue on my BE, found a loose/funky wire at the =
voltage regulator.
<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Good luck,</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Charley<br>
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