Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lower fulcrum lock pin

From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 23:02:58 -0400

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I loosen the nut until it is flush with the end of the stud and then whack i=
t a good one with my hammer. =20

> On May 20, 2022, at 10:53 PM, Karl Vacek via Spridgets <[email-masked]=
am.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> 51K1769 =E2=80=93 Moss 264-445
> The tapered pins that lock the lower fulcrum pins into the bottom of the k=
ing pins.  Nut and washer on the bottom =E2=80=93 taper requires them to com=
e out the top.
> =20
> Removed the nuts.  Soaked with Kroil.  Neither one wants to drive out.  A-=
arms and kingpin/rotor assemblies off the car already so I have good access t=
o everything.
> =20
> I=E2=80=99ve dealt with this type of pin before but never had them so stuc=
k.  TC has them through the axle, but those are usually cooperative.
> =20
> Next plan is to MIG a nut onto the top of the pins to give me something to=
 help pull them out, but before that is there any other trick to getting the=
se out?
> =20
> This is a low-mileage, rust-free car.=20
> =20
> Thanks!
> Karl
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oosen the nut until it is flush with the end of the stud and then whack it a=
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"cite">On May 20, 2022, at 10:53 PM, Karl Vacek via Spridgets &lt;spridgets@=
autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite=
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>The tapered pins that lock the lower fulcrum pins into the bottom of the ki=
ng pins.&nbsp; Nut and washer on the bottom =E2=80=93 taper requires them to=
 come out the top.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Removed the nuts.&nbsp; Soaked with Kroil.&nbsp; Nei=
ther one wants to drive out.&nbsp; A-arms and kingpin/rotor assemblies off t=
he car already so I have good access to everything.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ve dealt w=
ith this type of pin before but never had them so stuck.&nbsp; TC has them t=
hrough the axle, but those are usually cooperative.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Next plan is to MIG a=
 nut onto the top of the pins to give me something to help pull them out, bu=
t before that is there any other trick to getting these out?<o:p></o:p></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">This is a l=
ow-mileage, rust-free car.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks!<br>Karl<o:p></o:p></p></div><=
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From: Karl Vacek via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 22:15:43 -0500

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First thing I did on both sides but neither moved.  Eventually beat the =
pins and nuts so badly that I took the nuts off and the threaded portion =
on one side was bent.  Plenty of room to get penetrant in there.

=20

I eventually just took the whole assemblies off the car for better =
access but still no luck.

=20

Didn=E2=80=99t try heat yet, but if I do that I probably should then =
replace the otherwise-good kingpins.

=20

=20

=20

From: Rick Fisk [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 10:03 PM
To: Karl Vacek
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lower fulcrum lock pin

=20

I loosen the nut until it is flush with the end of the stud and then =
whack it a good one with my hammer. =20

On May 20, 2022, at 10:53 PM, Karl Vacek via Spridgets =
<[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF

The tapered pins that lock the lower fulcrum pins into the bottom of the =
king pins.  Nut and washer on the bottom =E2=80=93 taper requires them =
to come out the top.

=20

Removed the nuts.  Soaked with Kroil.  Neither one wants to drive out.  =
A-arms and kingpin/rotor assemblies off the car already so I have good =
access to everything.

=20

I=E2=80=99ve dealt with this type of pin before but never had them so =
stuck.  TC has them through the axle, but those are usually cooperative.

=20

Next plan is to MIG a nut onto the top of the pins to give me something =
to help pull them out, but before that is there any other trick to =
getting these out?

=20

This is a low-mileage, rust-free car. =20

=20

Thanks!
Karl

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link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#44546A'>First thing I did on =
both sides but neither moved.=C2=A0 Eventually beat the pins and nuts so =
badly that I took the nuts off and the threaded portion on one side was =
bent.=C2=A0 Plenty of room to get penetrant in =
there.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#44546A'>I eventually just took =
the whole assemblies off the car for better access but still no =
luck.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#44546A'>Didn=E2=80=99t try heat =
yet, but if I do that I probably should then replace the otherwise-good =
kingpins.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Rick Fisk [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 20, =
2022 10:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> Karl Vacek<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Spridgets] Lower =
fulcrum lock pin<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
loosen the nut until it is flush with the end of the stud and then whack =
it a good one with my hammer. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On May 20, 2022, at 10:53 PM, Karl Vacek =
via Spridgets &lt;[email-masked]&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF<span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>51K1769 =
=E2=80=93 Moss 264-445<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The tapered =
pins that lock the lower fulcrum pins into the bottom of the king =
pins.&nbsp; Nut and washer on the bottom =E2=80=93 taper requires them =
to come out the top.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Removed the =
nuts.&nbsp; Soaked with Kroil.&nbsp; Neither one wants to drive =
out.&nbsp; A-arms and kingpin/rotor assemblies off the car already so I =
have good access to everything.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99ve =
dealt with this type of pin before but never had them so stuck.&nbsp; TC =
has them through the axle, but those are usually =
cooperative.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Next plan is to MIG a nut onto the top of the pins to =
give me something to help pull them out, but before that is there any =
other trick to getting these out?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>This is a =
low-mileage, rust-free car.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks!<br>Karl<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'>------------------------<br><br>[email-masked]<=
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From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 20:52:29 -0700

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Sawzall.
Mike MacLean

On Fri, May 20, 2022, 8:16 PM Karl Vacek via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> First thing I did on both sides but neither moved.  Eventually beat the
on
> one side was bent.  Plenty of room to get penetrant in there.
>
>
>
> I eventually just took the whole assemblies off the car for better access
> but still no luck.
>
>
>
> Didn=E2=80=99t try heat yet, but if I do that I probably should then repl=
ace the
> otherwise-good kingpins.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Rick Fisk [mailto:[email-masked]]
> *Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2022 10:03 PM
> *To:* Karl Vacek
> *Cc:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] Lower fulcrum lock pin
>
>
>
> I loosen the nut until it is flush with the end of the stud and then whac=
k
> it a good one with my hammer.
>
>
>
> On May 20, 2022, at 10:53 PM, Karl Vacek via Spridgets <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
> The tapered pins that lock the lower fulcrum pins into the bottom of the
> king pins.  Nut and washer on the bottom =E2=80=93 taper requires them to=
 come out
> the top.
>
>
>
> Removed the nuts.  Soaked with Kroil.  Neither one wants to drive out.
> A-arms and kingpin/rotor assemblies off the car already so I have good
> access to everything.
>
>
>
> I=E2=80=99ve dealt with this type of pin before but never had them so stu=
ck.  TC
> has them through the axle, but those are usually cooperative.
>
>
>
> Next plan is to MIG a nut onto the top of the pins to give me something t=
o
> help pull them out, but before that is there any other trick to getting
> these out?
>
>
>
> This is a low-mileage, rust-free car.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
> Karl
>
> ------------------------
>
> [email-masked]
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Sawzall.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">Mike MacLean</div></div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri,=
 May 20, 2022, 8:16 PM Karl Vacek via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sprid=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#95=
4F72"><div class=3D"m_5558464209523861673WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"color:#44546a">First thing I did on both sides but neithe=
r moved.=C2=A0 Eventually beat the pins and nuts so badly that I took the n=
uts off and the threaded portion on one side was bent.=C2=A0 Plenty of room=
 to get penetrant in there.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"color:#44546a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"color:#44546a">I eventually just took the whole ass=
emblies off the car for better access but still no luck.<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#44546a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#44546a">Didn=E2=
=80=99t try heat yet, but if I do that I probably should then replace the o=
therwise-good kingpins.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"color:#44546a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"color:#44546a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#44546a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p=
><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0p=
t 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;"> Rick Fisk [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Frida=
y, May 20, 2022 10:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> Karl Vacek<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">sprid=
[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Spridgets] Lower fulcrum lo=
ck pin<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I loosen the nut until it is f=
lush with the end of the stud and then whack it a good one with my hammer. =
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u=
></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On May 20, 2=
022, at 10:53 PM, Karl Vacek via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]=
et</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.=
0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BF<span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&qu=
ot;"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">51K1769 =E2=80=93 Moss=
 264-445<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The tapered pins that lock=
 the lower fulcrum pins into the bottom of the king pins.=C2=A0 Nut and was=
her on the bottom =E2=80=93 taper requires them to come out the top.<u></u>=
<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">Removed the nuts.=C2=A0 Soaked with Kroil.=C2=A0 Neither one wants to=
 drive out.=C2=A0 A-arms and kingpin/rotor assemblies off the car already s=
o I have good access to everything.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ve dealt with thi=
s type of pin before but never had them so stuck.=C2=A0 TC has them through=
 the axle, but those are usually cooperative.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"=
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