Subject: [Spridgets] Valve Spring Retainers

From: brian S via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 28 May 2022 15:48:23 +0000

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From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 29 May 2022 14:13:11 -0400

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The MiniSpares springs work with 1.5 rockers and don't bind up  I run their s=
tuff on my 1275.  :-)

> On May 29, 2022, at 2:05 PM, brian S via Spridgets <[email-masked]=
et> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> Thanks Daniel,
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> I'll have to check them for any markings when I get it apart.
> It was suggested by someone else that they are Isky Aluminium and that tha=
t inner spring may have failed causing the retainer failure.
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> Hap at ACME suggested new Minispares springs and Competition type Steel re=
tainers also.
> Probably gonna go that route.
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> Brian S.
> Bugeyeracer resto'ed Thanks to Frank C.!
> From: Weslake1330 <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 3:23 PM
> To: brian S <[email-masked]>
> Cc: spridgets list <[email-masked]>; OSHIT <EasternOshitGroup@gr=
oups.io>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Valve Spring Retainers
> =20
> I'd expect you'd have to get a full set.  If it were me I'd want to know w=
hy the retainer failed and I'd return it to the manufacturer for a post-mort=
em and possibly free of charge replacement part.  I'm guessing the retainers=
 might be made by Titan, or Kent.  I have the APT version of the 286 Scatter=
 pattern and I really see the need to use more than 6000 rpm (except in 5th o=
n a 3.9 diff with 70 profile tyres - you do the math!) and the engine has st=
andard retainers on 1.5 Rockers.  I forget why I was told not to bother with=
 Ti retainers but since it was David Anton who told me I took his advice.
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> Regards
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> Daniel
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> On Sat, 28 May 2022 at 16:55, brian S via Spridgets <[email-masked].=
net> wrote:
> So,
> I pulled my Valve Cover yesterday. Was planning to modify it for more Brea=
thing. Has a Lot of Blowby, but that's for another post. =F0=9F=98=89
> I happen to see a piece of metal between the rockers on the top of the hea=
d. Thinking WTF is that from?
> Move around to the other side of the engine and see pic #2, Well crap, tha=
t's not good.
> Car ran fine the night before. Guess I got lucky that what was left still h=
eld on to get me home.
> I believe they are Titanium Retainers. Super light, and not bendable.
> Don't know a ton about this engine.=20
> What I do know.
> built in 2000. I acquired it in 2014. Sat unused awaiting owner to install=
 in a Bugeye Project and passed away.
> 1275, .030 over, 9.75:1,  Kent 266 cam w/ Belt drive, 1.5:1 roller rockers=
. Pierce Alum head, HS2s w ported intake.
> Don't know Spring manufacturer.=20
> How do I go about finding a replacement Retainer? Do I have to get a full s=
et? Titanium ones are $200+ a set
> If I have to get a full set, can I use hardened Steel ones? Engine doesn't=
 see 8000 rpm, 7000 occasionally. =F0=9F=98=89
> Any insight appreciated.
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> Thanks,
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> Brian S.
> Bugeyeracer resto'ed Thanks to Frank C.!
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The=
 MiniSpares springs work with 1.5 rockers and don't bind up &nbsp;I run thei=
r stuff on my 1275. &nbsp;:-)</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"=
cite">On May 29, 2022, at 2:05 PM, brian S via Spridgets &lt;spridgets@autox=
.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
Thanks Daniel,</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
<br>
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<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
I'll have to check them for any markings when I get it apart.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
It was suggested by someone else that they are Isky Aluminium and that that i=
nner spring may have failed causing the retainer failure.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
Hap at ACME suggested new Minispares springs and Competition type Steel reta=
iners also.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
Probably gonna go that route.<br>
</div>
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olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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<div>Brian S.<br>
</div>
<div>Bugeyeracer resto'ed Thanks to Frank C.!<br>
</div>
</div>
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le=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Weslake1330 &lt;weslake=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 28, 2022 3:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> brian S &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> spridgets list &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; OSHIT &lt;Easter=
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Spridgets] Valve Spring Retainers</font>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I'd expect you'd have to get a full set.&nbsp; If it were m=
e I'd want to know why the retainer failed and I'd return it to the manufact=
urer for a post-mortem and possibly free of charge replacement part.&nbsp; I=
'm guessing the retainers might be made by
 Titan, or Kent.&nbsp; I have the APT version of the 286 Scatter pattern and=
 I really see the need to use more than 6000 rpm (except in 5th on a 3.9 dif=
f with 70 profile tyres - you do the math!) and the engine has standard reta=
iners on 1.5 Rockers.&nbsp; I forget why
 I was told not to bother with Ti retainers but since it was David Anton who=
 told me I took his advice.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Daniel</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Sat, 28 May 2022 at 16:55, brian S=
 via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
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<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
So,</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
I pulled my Valve Cover yesterday. Was planning to modify it for more Breath=
ing. Has a Lot of Blowby, but that's for another post. =F0=9F=98=89</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
I happen to see a piece of metal between the rockers on the top of the head.=
 Thinking WTF is that from?</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
Move around to the other side of the engine and see pic #2, Well crap, that'=
s not good.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
Car ran fine the night before. Guess I got lucky that what was left still he=
ld on to get me home.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
I believe they are Titanium Retainers. Super light, and not bendable.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
Don't know a ton about this engine. <br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
What I do know.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
built in 2000. I acquired it in 2014. Sat unused awaiting owner to install i=
n a Bugeye Project and passed away.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
1275, .030 over, 9.75:1,&nbsp; Kent 266 cam w/ Belt drive, 1.5:1 roller rock=
ers. Pierce Alum head, HS2s w ported intake.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
Don't know Spring manufacturer. <br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
How do I go about finding a replacement Retainer? Do I have to get a full se=
t? Titanium ones are $200+ a set<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
If I have to get a full set, can I use hardened Steel ones? Engine doesn't s=
ee 8000 rpm, 7000 occasionally. =F0=9F=98=89</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
Any insight appreciated.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
Thanks,<br>
</div>
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r:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
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<div>Brian S.<br>
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<div>Bugeyeracer resto'ed Thanks to Frank C.!<br>
</div>
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