Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pull start..

From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 15:30:10 -0500

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Hi Mike,

I measure 19 1/2" from the back of the knob to the tip of the cable.

Rick

> On Jan 31, 2022, at 2:39 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@auto=
x.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Chuck,
>      I can't tell you exactly.  The original 62 year old cable was cut in h=
alf when it contacted the negative battery brown wire.  The cable and sheath=
 were welded together in each half where it was cut.  I might be able to fin=
d the pieces, but I threw them away in my shop waste basket in disgust.  I w=
ould be interested to find out the measurement from the back of the black kn=
ob to the tip of the braided cable of an original if someone has one.  It wo=
uld be easy to just loosen the set screw and pull it out for measurement.  T=
he reproduction measures 19 1/2 inches from the black knob where it sits flu=
sh against the dash fitting to the tip of the cable.  It needs another 1/4 i=
nch to sit in the connector on the starter solenoid and flush against the da=
sh with no play.  That also means the connector is fully engaged with the sh=
aft on the starter solenoid without being under spring tension.  I have made=
 the repro work, but I had to pull the shaft of the solenoid out about a 1/4=
 inch to get good engagement of both the wire and the solenoid shaft which m=
eans it sits under spring tension at rest.  Something that was not necessary=
 with the original 62 year old cable. So, does anyone have an original cable=
 in or out of the car they would be willing to measure?  Of course my offer t=
o buy an original still stands.
> Mike M
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>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 10:31 AM crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <spridg=
[email-masked]> wrote:
>> Question,
>> I might have missed this so I shall ask..
>> When physically laying old ( in spite of a slight bit of trying?) Cable n=
ext to the new one , how much difference is there in the shielding length an=
d actual cable length?
>> Reason I ask is this is bringing back something I kinda/sorta remember fr=
om my Bugeye when it was reassembled over 25 years ago??
>> Chuck
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi M=
ike,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I measure 19 1/2" from=
 the back of the knob to the tip of the cable.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">Rick</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><i=
mg src=3D"cid:A165E721-7A42-4519-B8DC-A45DE9DB85FC-L0-001"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 31, 2022, at 2:39 PM, Michael=
 MacLean via Spridgets &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></bloc=
kquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div>Chuck,</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I can't tell you exactl=
y.&nbsp; The original 62 year old cable was cut in half when it contacted th=
e negative battery brown wire.&nbsp; The cable and sheath were welded togeth=
er in each half where it was cut.&nbsp; I might be able to find the pieces, b=
ut I threw them away in my shop waste basket in disgust.&nbsp; I would be in=
terested to find out the measurement from the back of the black knob to the t=
ip of the braided cable of an original if someone has one.&nbsp; It would be=
 easy to just loosen the set screw and pull it out for measurement.&nbsp; Th=
e reproduction measures 19 1/2 inches from the black knob where it sits flus=
h against the dash fitting to the tip of the cable.&nbsp; It needs another 1=
/4 inch to sit in the connector on the starter solenoid and flush against th=
e dash with no play.&nbsp; That also means the connector is fully engaged wi=
th the shaft on the starter solenoid without being under spring tension.&nbs=
p; I have made the repro work, but I had to pull the shaft of the solenoid o=
ut about a 1/4 inch to get good engagement of both the wire and the solenoid=
 shaft which means it sits under spring tension at rest.&nbsp; Something tha=
t was not necessary with the original 62 year old cable. So, does anyone hav=
e an original cable in or out of the car they would be willing to measure?&n=
bsp; Of course my offer to buy an original still stands.</div><div>Mike M<br=
></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_=
attr">On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 10:31 AM crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
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tyle=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px=
"><div>Question,</div><div>I might have missed this so I shall ask..</div><d=
iv>When physically laying old ( in spite of a slight bit of trying?) Cable n=
ext to the new one , how much difference is there in the shielding length an=
d actual cable length?</div><div>Reason I ask is this is bringing back somet=
hing I kinda/sorta remember from my Bugeye when it was reassembled over 25 y=
ears ago??</div><div>Chuck</div></div></div>------------------------<br>
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From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 13:24:31 -0800

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Rick seems to me from that picture you might get a little more length if
you straightened out the cable, or am I seeing it wrong?
Mike M

On Mon, Jan 31, 2022, 12:30 PM Rick Fisk <[email-masked]> wrote:

> On Jan 31, 2022, at 2:39 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> Chuck,
>      I can't tell you exactly.  The original 62 year old cable was cut in
> half when it contacted the negative battery brown wire.  The cable and
> sheath were welded together in each half where it was cut.  I might be ab=
le
> to find the pieces, but I threw them away in my shop waste basket in
> disgust.  I would be interested to find out the measurement from the back
> of the black knob to the tip of the braided cable of an original if someo=
ne
> has one.  It would be easy to just loosen the set screw and pull it out f=
or
> measurement.  The reproduction measures 19 1/2 inches from the black knob
> where it sits flush against the dash fitting to the tip of the cable.  It
> needs another 1/4 inch to sit in the connector on the starter solenoid an=
d
> flush against the dash with no play.  That also means the connector is
> fully engaged with the shaft on the starter solenoid without being under
> spring tension.  I have made the repro work, but I had to pull the shaft =
of
> the solenoid out about a 1/4 inch to get good engagement of both the wire
> and the solenoid shaft which means it sits under spring tension at rest.
> Something that was not necessary with the original 62 year old cable. So,
> does anyone have an original cable in or out of the car they would be
> willing to measure?  Of course my offer to buy an original still stands.
> Mike M
>
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 10:31 AM crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>> Question,
>> When physically laying old ( in spite of a slight bit of trying?) Cable
>> next to the new one , how much difference is there in the shielding leng=
th
>> and actual cable length?
>> Reason I ask is this is bringing back something I kinda/sorta remember
>> from my Bugeye when it was reassembled over 25 years ago??
>> Chuck
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<div dir=3D"auto">Rick seems to me from that picture you might get a little=
 more length if you straightened out the cable, or am I seeing=C2=A0it wron=
g?<div dir=3D"auto">Mike M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 31, 2022, 12:30 PM Rick Fisk &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"lt=
r"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Mike,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">I measure 19 1/2&quot; from the back of the knob to the tip of the=
 cable.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Rick</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><img src=3D"cid:A165E721-7A42-4519-B8DC=
-A45DE9DB85FC-L0-001"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te">On Jan 31, 2022, at 2:39 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">s=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Chuck,</div=
><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I can&#39;t tell you exactly.=C2=A0 The orig=
inal 62 year old cable was cut in half when it contacted the negative batte=
ry brown wire.=C2=A0 The cable and sheath were welded together in each half=
 where it was cut.=C2=A0 I might be able to find the pieces, but I threw th=
em away in my shop waste basket in disgust.=C2=A0 I would be interested to =
find out the measurement from the back of the black knob to the tip of the =
braided cable of an original if someone has one.=C2=A0 It would be easy to =
just loosen the set screw and pull it out for measurement.=C2=A0 The reprod=
uction measures 19 1/2 inches from the black knob where it sits flush again=
st the dash fitting to the tip of the cable.=C2=A0 It needs another 1/4 inc=
h to sit in the connector on the starter solenoid and flush against the das=
h with no play.=C2=A0 That also means the connector is fully engaged with t=
he shaft on the starter solenoid without being under spring tension.=C2=A0 =
I have made the repro work, but I had to pull the shaft of the solenoid out=
 about a 1/4 inch to get good engagement of both the wire and the solenoid =
shaft which means it sits under spring tension at rest.=C2=A0 Something tha=
t was not necessary with the original 62 year old cable. So, does anyone ha=
ve an original cable in or out of the car they would be willing to measure?=
=C2=A0 Of course my offer to buy an original still stands.</div><div>Mike M=
<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gm=
ail_attr">On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 10:31 AM crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"n=
oreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica=
 Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div>Question,</div><div>I=
 might have missed this so I shall ask..</div><div>When physically laying o=
ld ( in spite of a slight bit of trying?) Cable next to the new one , how m=
uch difference is there in the shielding length and actual cable length?</d=
iv><div>Reason I ask is this is bringing back something I kinda/sorta remem=
ber from my Bugeye when it was reassembled over 25 years ago??</div><div>Ch=
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