Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aluminum Radiators

From: Neil Anderson via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 12:19:44 -0500

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I bought a Wizzard for my Sprite project and then sold it to my buddy for
his modified 1275 Bugeye.  Wizzard radiators are not cheap, but they're
made here.  BTW, my friend and  I are driving his Bugeye from Chicago to
southern CA, leaving in two weeks for Conclave.  Road Trip!

Neil Anderson

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>      My Bugeye has been running hot in any ambient temperature over 80
> degrees lately.  I have the original radiator that was re-cored with an OEM
> type core almost 25 years ago.  I have been leaning towards getting an
> aluminum radiator.  Moss sells a two row aluminum radiator for $300.  You
> can get a Chinese made Bugeye type radiator on Fleabay for $165 with free
> shipping.  Nevermind the fact Moss charges a $10 oversize fee on top of a
> shipping charge of $27 and then of course California has to get their cut
> ($24).  It adds up.
>      A call to Moss just now was not all that helpful.  I was told that
> all they know is their aluminum radiator comes from Moss Europe.  Other
> than that, they have no idea country of manufacture.  Since both radiators
> are just about the same in construction and core size I am not sure what to
> do here.  With Frank's words on Chinese made crap echoing in my head might
> I be better off getting my original radiator re-cored with an up to date
> core that will have more cooling fin area?  Do the aluminum radiators make
> that much difference?
> Mike MacLean
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<div dir=3D"auto">I bought a Wizzard for my Sprite project and then sold it=
 to my buddy for his modified 1275 Bugeye.=C2=A0 Wizzard radiators are not =
cheap, but they&#39;re made here.=C2=A0 BTW, my friend and=C2=A0 I are driv=
ing his Bugeye from Chicago to southern CA, leaving in two weeks for Concla=
ve.=C2=A0 Road Trip!<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Neil Anderson</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 11:35 AM Michael M=
acLean via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">spridg=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0My Bugeye has been running hot in any =
ambient temperature over 80 degrees lately.=C2=A0 I have the original radia=
tor that was re-cored with an OEM type core almost 25 years ago.=C2=A0 I ha=
ve been leaning towards getting an aluminum radiator.=C2=A0 Moss sells a tw=
o row aluminum radiator for $300.=C2=A0 You can get a Chinese made Bugeye t=
ype radiator on Fleabay for $165 with free shipping.=C2=A0 Nevermind the fa=
ct Moss charges a $10 oversize fee on top of a shipping charge of $27 and t=
hen of course California has to get their cut ($24).=C2=A0 It adds up.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0A call to Moss just now was =
not all that helpful.=C2=A0 I was told that all they know is their aluminum=
 radiator comes from Moss Europe.=C2=A0 Other than that, they have no idea =
country of manufacture.=C2=A0 Since both radiators are just about the same =
in construction and core size I am not sure what to do here.=C2=A0 With Fra=
nk&#39;s words on Chinese made crap echoing in my head might I be better of=
f getting my original radiator re-cored with an up to date core that will h=
ave more cooling fin area?=C2=A0 Do the aluminum radiators make that much d=
ifference?</div><div dir=3D"auto">Mike MacLean</div></div>
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From: Billy Zoom via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 10:22:02 -0700

What conclave?
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It=E2=80=99ll make a huge difference, but it shouldn=E2=80=99t be getting ho=
t at anything much below 95F (I keep a midget in Florida, and it only sees s=
ummer days; it didn=E2=80=99t overheat even when the water pump was failing.=
 I have a stock radiator but it IS in perfect condition). Check the usual is=
sues? Thermostat, timing, etc? Ron Davis makes aluminum works of art with co=
mmensurate price tags but they are the best and drop right in. I have used b=
oth his downflow and cross flow designs. See attached for material compariso=
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> On Apr 26, 2021, at 11:35 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote:
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>      My Bugeye has been running hot in any ambient temperature over 80 deg=
rees lately.  I have the original radiator that was re-cored with an OEM typ=
e core almost 25 years ago.  I have been leaning towards getting an aluminum=
 radiator.  Moss sells a two row aluminum radiator for $300.  You can get a C=
hinese made Bugeye type radiator on Fleabay for $165 with free shipping.  Ne=
vermind the fact Moss charges a $10 oversize fee on top of a shipping charge=
 of $27 and then of course California has to get their cut ($24).  It adds u=
p. =20
>      A call to Moss just now was not all that helpful.  I was told that al=
l they know is their aluminum radiator comes from Moss Europe.  Other than t=
hat, they have no idea country of manufacture.  Since both radiators are jus=
t about the same in construction and core size I am not sure what to do here=
.  With Frank's words on Chinese made crap echoing in my head might I be bet=
ter off getting my original radiator re-cored with an up to date core that w=
ill have more cooling fin area?  Do the aluminum radiators make that much di=
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 13:34:51 -0500

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Michael, I did succumb to the lure of using an Aluminum radiator in my 
bugeye.  I had it built custom, and it was not cheap (don't recall how 
much, but my wife groaned when I told her).  I was attempting to add on 
a Judson Supercharger, and thought I'd need additional cooling 
capacity.  I never could get the engine to run right with the Judson so 
I took it off.  I have to say the aluminum radiator keeps everything 
running cool, so I won't be swapping back, but everything I've read says 
a copper (original material) core is the most efficient.  If your car 
used to run cool, and just started having problems keeping up, you might 
just take the radiator to a good old fashioned radiator shop and have it 
disassembled, rodded out and flushed good.  I was having cooling issues 
on my BJ8, and took my radiator to a shop and asked if they could refit 
it with a higher capacity core.  He looked at it and said, "This is a 
high capacity core, but it is clogged up."  after he cleaned it out, it 
has been handling high temperature days, etc. just fine.   Of course the 
disassembly and cleaning may cost nearly the same as one of the Chinese 
aluminum radiators.

John O'Brien

'61 Bugeye (Lucy)

'65 BJ8 (Madelyn)

On 4/26/2021 11:34 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote:
> degrees lately.  I have the original radiator that was re-cored with 
> an OEM type core almost 25 years ago.  I have been leaning towards 
> getting an aluminum radiator. Moss sells a two row aluminum radiator 
> for $300.  You can get a Chinese made Bugeye type radiator on Fleabay 
> for $165 with free shipping.  Nevermind the fact Moss charges a $10 
> oversize fee on top of a shipping charge of $27 and then of course 
> California has to get their cut ($24).  It adds up.
>      A call to Moss just now was not all that helpful.  I was told 
> that all they know is their aluminum radiator comes from Moss Europe.  
> Other than that, they have no idea country of manufacture.  Since both 
> radiators are just about the same in construction and core size I am 
> not sure what to do here.  With Frank's words on Chinese made crap 
> echoing in my head might I be better off getting my original radiator 
> re-cored with an up to date core that will have more cooling fin 
> area?  Do the aluminum radiators make that much difference?
> Mike MacLean
>
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    <p>Michael, I did succumb to the lure of using an Aluminum radiator
      in my bugeye.  I had it built custom, and it was not cheap (don't
      recall how much, but my wife groaned when I told her).  I was
      attempting to add on a Judson Supercharger, and thought I'd need
      additional cooling capacity.  I never could get the engine to run
      right with the Judson so I took it off.  I have to say the
      aluminum radiator keeps everything running cool, so I won't be
      swapping back, but everything I've read says a copper (original
      material) core is the most efficient.  If your car used to run
      cool, and just started having problems keeping up, you might just
      take the radiator to a good old fashioned radiator shop and have
      it disassembled, rodded out and flushed good.  I was having
      cooling issues on my BJ8, and took my radiator to a shop and asked
      if they could refit it with a higher capacity core.  He looked at
      it and said, "This is a high capacity core, but it is clogged
      up."  after he cleaned it out, it has been handling high
      temperature days, etc. just fine.   Of course the disassembly and
      cleaning may cost nearly the same as one of the Chinese aluminum
      radiators.</p>
    <p>John O'Brien</p>
    <p>'61 Bugeye (Lucy)</p>
    <p>'65 BJ8 (Madelyn)<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/26/2021 11:34 AM, Michael MacLean
      via Spridgets wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">     My Bugeye has been running hot in any ambient
        temperature over 80 degrees lately.  I have the original
        radiator that was re-cored with an OEM type core almost 25 years
        ago.  I have been leaning towards getting an aluminum radiator. 
        Moss sells a two row aluminum radiator for $300.  You can get a
        Chinese made Bugeye type radiator on Fleabay for $165 with free
        shipping.  Nevermind the fact Moss charges a $10 oversize fee on
        top of a shipping charge of $27 and then of course California
        has to get their cut ($24).  It adds up.  
        <div dir="auto">     A call to Moss just now was not all that
          helpful.  I was told that all they know is their aluminum
          radiator comes from Moss Europe.  Other than that, they have
          no idea country of manufacture.  Since both radiators are just
          about the same in construction and core size I am not sure
          what to do here.  With Frank's words on Chinese made crap
          echoing in my head might I be better off getting my original
          radiator re-cored with an up to date core that will have more
          cooling fin area?  Do the aluminum radiators make that much
          difference?</div>
        <div dir="auto">Mike MacLean</div>
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From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 11:53:28 -0700

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I just got off the phone with a local radiator shop.  I was told a re-core
of my original radiator would cost $3-400.  The reason is the price of
copper and the availability of materials due to the pandemic halting
production.  This is assuming I have a modern type core put in.  The
straight horizontal fin cores are available, but they are used in
industrial applications like fork lifts and farm equipment.  He was honest
enough to say even the Chinese radiator would probably work better than my
20+ year old radiator re-core with horizontal straight fins if the Chinese
radiator had a modern type core in it.  He also said any radiator that
cheap ($170) can only be manufactured outside of the US.  He also said the
cooling efficiency was not that different between copper and aluminum.  So,
now I really don't know which way to go.  I really don't think I need a
$600 aluminum radiator.  I will not be racing this Bugeye.  The problem now
is my MGB GT is running hot too.  Checked timing on both cars.  Top
radiator hose gets hot, so I really don't think the thermostat is a
problem.  Crap.
Mike MacLean

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 11:35 AM John OBrien via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> much, but my wife groaned when I told her).  I was attempting to add on a
> Judson Supercharger, and thought I'd need additional cooling capacity.  I
> never could get the engine to run right with the Judson so I took it off.
> I have to say the aluminum radiator keeps everything running cool, so I
> won't be swapping back, but everything I've read says a copper (original
> material) core is the most efficient.  If your car used to run cool, and
> just started having problems keeping up, you might just take the radiator
> to a good old fashioned radiator shop and have it disassembled, rodded out
> and flushed good.  I was having cooling issues on my BJ8, and took my
> radiator to a shop and asked if they could refit it with a higher capacity
> core.  He looked at it and said, "This is a high capacity core, but it is
> clogged up."  after he cleaned it out, it has been handling high
> temperature days, etc. just fine.   Of course the disassembly and cleaning
> may cost nearly the same as one of the Chinese aluminum radiators.
>
> John O'Brien
>
> '61 Bugeye (Lucy)
>
> '65 BJ8 (Madelyn)
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I just got off the phone with a local radiator shop.=C2=
=A0 I was told a re-core of my original radiator would cost $3-400.=C2=A0 T=
he reason is the price of copper and the availability of materials due to t=
he pandemic halting production.=C2=A0 This is assuming I have a modern type=
 core put in.=C2=A0 The straight horizontal fin cores are available, but th=
ey are used in industrial applications like fork lifts and farm equipment.=
=C2=A0 He was honest enough to say even the Chinese radiator would probably=
 work better than my 20+ year old radiator re-core with horizontal straight=
 fins if the Chinese radiator had a modern type core in it.=C2=A0 He also s=
aid any radiator that cheap ($170) can only be manufactured outside of the =
US.=C2=A0 He also said the cooling efficiency was not that different betwee=
n copper and aluminum.=C2=A0 So, now I really don&#39;t know which way to g=
o.=C2=A0 I really don&#39;t think I need a $600 aluminum radiator.=C2=A0 I =
will not be racing this Bugeye.=C2=A0 The problem now is my MGB GT is runni=
ng hot too.=C2=A0 Checked timing on both cars.=C2=A0 Top radiator hose gets=
 hot, so I really don&#39;t think the thermostat is a problem.=C2=A0 Crap.<=
div dir=3D"auto">Mike MacLean</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 11:35 AM John OBri=
en via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">spridgets@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
 =20
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    <p>Michael, I did succumb to the lure of using an Aluminum radiator
      in my bugeye.=C2=A0 I had it built custom, and it was not cheap (don&=
#39;t
      recall how much, but my wife groaned when I told her).=C2=A0 I was
      attempting to add on a Judson Supercharger, and thought I&#39;d need
      additional cooling capacity.=C2=A0 I never could get the engine to ru=
n
      right with the Judson so I took it off.=C2=A0 I have to say the
      aluminum radiator keeps everything running cool, so I won&#39;t be
      swapping back, but everything I&#39;ve read says a copper (original
      material) core is the most efficient.=C2=A0 If your car used to run
      cool, and just started having problems keeping up, you might just
      take the radiator to a good old fashioned radiator shop and have
      it disassembled, rodded out and flushed good.=C2=A0 I was having
      cooling issues on my BJ8, and took my radiator to a shop and asked
      if they could refit it with a higher capacity core.=C2=A0 He looked a=
t
      it and said, &quot;This is a high capacity core, but it is clogged
      up.&quot;=C2=A0 after he cleaned it out, it has been handling high
      temperature days, etc. just fine.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Of course the disassemb=
ly and
      cleaning may cost nearly the same as one of the Chinese aluminum
      radiators.</p>
    <p>John O&#39;Brien</p>
    <p>&#39;61 Bugeye (Lucy)</p>
    <p>&#39;65 BJ8 (Madelyn)<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div>On 4/26/2021 11:34 AM, Michael MacLean
      via Spridgets wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0My Bugeye has been running hot =
in any ambient
        temperature over 80 degrees lately.=C2=A0 I have the original
        radiator that was re-cored with an OEM type core almost 25 years
        ago.=C2=A0 I have been leaning towards getting an aluminum radiator=
.=C2=A0
        Moss sells a two row aluminum radiator for $300.=C2=A0 You can get =
a
        Chinese made Bugeye type radiator on Fleabay for $165 with free
        shipping.=C2=A0 Nevermind the fact Moss charges a $10 oversize fee =
on
        top of a shipping charge of $27 and then of course California
        has to get their cut ($24).=C2=A0 It adds up.=C2=A0=C2=A0
        <div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0A call to Moss just now was n=
ot all that
          helpful.=C2=A0 I was told that all they know is their aluminum
          radiator comes from Moss Europe.=C2=A0 Other than that, they have
          no idea country of manufacture.=C2=A0 Since both radiators are ju=
st
          about the same in construction and core size I am not sure
          what to do here.=C2=A0 With Frank&#39;s words on Chinese made cra=
p
          echoing in my head might I be better off getting my original
          radiator re-cored with an up to date core that will have more
          cooling fin area?=C2=A0 Do the aluminum radiators make that much
          difference?</div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">Mike MacLean</div>
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Hi Michael. In 2013 I bought a Wizard aluminum radiator for my 1275
Bugeye.  When it arrived the shroud did not fit. I then interacted with
Scott Attig and Tom Dahmer of Wizard.  I then sent Tom measurements of
modifications that were needed.  He then sent me their modified drawing and
3D model for my review before going into production.  The revised shroud
worked perfectly.   Tom also worked with me when the pet cock wouldn=E2=80=
=99t seal
properly.  I believe I must have been the first Bugeye customer for them.
I sure couldn=E2=80=99t have done this with some overseas manufacturers.

It was pricy, $499.00 back then, but has worked great   I am a satisfied
customer.

While I was at it, I installed an electric cooling fan with a thermostat.

John F

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[email-masked]> wrote:

> degrees lately.  I have the original radiator that was re-cored with an O=
EM
> than that, they have no idea country of manufacture.  Since both radiator=
s
> are just about the same in construction and core size I am not sure what =
to
> do here.  With Frank's words on Chinese made crap echoing in my head migh=
t
> core that will have more cooling fin area?  Do the aluminum radiators mak=
e
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<div dir=3D"auto">Hi Michael. In 2013 I bought a Wizard aluminum radiator f=
or my 1275 Bugeye.=C2=A0 When it arrived the shroud did not fit. I then int=
eracted with Scott Attig and Tom Dahmer of Wizard.=C2=A0 I then sent Tom me=
asurements of modifications that were needed.=C2=A0 He then sent me their m=
odified drawing and 3D model for my review before going into production.=C2=
=A0 The revised shroud worked perfectly. =C2=A0 Tom also worked with me whe=
n the pet cock wouldn=E2=80=99t seal properly.=C2=A0 I believe I must have =
been the first Bugeye customer for them.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">I sur=
e couldn=E2=80=99t have done this with some overseas manufacturers.=C2=A0</=
div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">It was pricy, $499.00 bac=
k then, but has worked great =C2=A0 I am a satisfied customer.</div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">While I was at it, I installed an el=
ectric cooling fan with a thermostat.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto">John F</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"aut=
o"><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 12:35 PM Michael MacLean via Spridgets =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0My Bugeye has been running hot in any ambient temperature =
over 80 degrees lately.=C2=A0 I have the original radiator that was re-core=
d with an OEM type core almost 25 years ago.=C2=A0 I have been leaning towa=
rds getting an aluminum radiator.=C2=A0 Moss sells a two row aluminum radia=
tor for $300.=C2=A0 You can get a Chinese made Bugeye type radiator on Flea=
bay for $165 with free shipping.=C2=A0 Nevermind the fact Moss charges a $1=
0 oversize fee on top of a shipping charge of $27 and then of course Califo=
rnia has to get their cut ($24).=C2=A0 It adds up.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div dir=3D"a=
uto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0A call to Moss just now was not all that helpful.=
=C2=A0 I was told that all they know is their aluminum radiator comes from =
Moss Europe.=C2=A0 Other than that, they have no idea country of manufactur=
e.=C2=A0 Since both radiators are just about the same in construction and c=
ore size I am not sure what to do here.=C2=A0 With Frank&#39;s words on Chi=
nese made crap echoing in my head might I be better off getting my original=
 radiator re-cored with an up to date core that will have more cooling fin =
area?=C2=A0 Do the aluminum radiators make that much difference?</div><div =
dir=3D"auto">Mike MacLean</div></div>
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The Austin-Healey Club of America's national meet, Conclave, is at Big Bear
Lake, May 16- 22.  For more info, contact me.  There is still room to join
us, even with Covid restrictions.

> What conclave?

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<div dir=3D"auto">The Austin-Healey Club of America&#39;s national meet, Co=
nclave, is at Big Bear Lake, May 16- 22.=C2=A0 For more info, contact me.=
=C2=A0 There is still room to join us, even with Covid restrictions.</div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon,=
 Apr 26, 2021, 12:22 PM Billy Zoom &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:billyzoom@billyzoo=
m.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
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