Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Trying to diagnose an idle/stalling issue

From: crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 18:39:16 -0500

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Sounds like you are hunting for a vacume leak.    From your description it does not act like an electrical issue.   BUT!  BEFORE you mess with too much of you are still running points check 2 things!!   Be certain your points are clean ( they grow some kind of crud) and you have a proper gap.  If that's all good OR you have electronic ignition I suspect you are hitting a temporary lean on fuel situation mostly due to some kind of vacume leak.  Look for a vacume line to the distributor literally cracked.  Or there is an old stand by vacume leak check....  Use some choke spray with the car running and spray around the intake manifold to head gasket or the carb spacers gaskets.   If you get a pick up in RPM'S you just sprayed the "leak" area.A simple check is to be certain the intake to head nuts are tight and snug the 4 nuts retaining the carbs on the intake manifold.   Share your findings once you had some tinker time.ChuckSent from my LG Mobile------ Original message------From: Kurtis J. via SpridgetsDate: Sat, Dec 26, 2020 5:36 PMTo: Spridgets (E-mail);Cc: Subject:[Spridgets] Trying to diagnose an idle/stalling issueGreetings everyone.  I was semi-active on this list several (like 10) years ago.  I have a 1959 Bugeye with a 1275 engine that had up until last month been sitting dormant in my basement garage.  I have the car back on the road and running fairly well, but I am dealing with an idle issue.The card starts fine and will idle fine after it warms up; however, when coming to a stop, the idle drops to a point where the engine will stall if I don't give it a little gas.  After it catches back up, the car will go back to idling fine.  Right now I have the idle set at about 1,000 rpms.The plugs on the car look good, so I think the mixture is fine.  I have played with the timing a little as well.  Any suggestions as to where else to look?Thanks,-- Kurt JonesConway, Arkansas1963 TR4 - CT19389L1959 AH Bugeye - AN5L23250

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    <div style="font-size: 10pt;"><div dir="auto">Sounds like you are hunting for a vacume leak.&nbsp; &nbsp; From your description it does not act like an electrical issue.&nbsp; &nbsp;BUT!&nbsp; BEFORE you mess with too much of you are still running points check 2 things!!&nbsp; &nbsp;Be certain your points are clean ( they grow some kind of crud) and you have a proper gap.&nbsp; If that's all good OR you have electronic ignition I suspect you are hitting a temporary lean on fuel situation mostly due to some kind of vacume leak.&nbsp; Look for a vacume line to the distributor literally cracked.&nbsp; Or there is an old stand by vacume leak check....&nbsp; Use some choke spray with the car running and spray around the intake manifold to head gasket or the carb spacers gaskets.&nbsp; &nbsp;If you get a pick up in RPM'S you just sprayed the "leak" area.</div><div dir="auto">A simple check is to be certain the intake to head nuts are tight and snug the 4 nuts retaining the carbs on the intake manifold.&nbsp; &nbsp;</div><div dir="auto">Share your findings once you had some tinker time.</div><div dir="auto">Chuck</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:9pt;"><i>Sent from my LG Mobile</i></div></div></div><div style="font-size: 10pt;"><div id="LGEmailHeader" dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">------ Original message------</div><div dir="auto"><b>From: </b>Kurtis J. via Spridgets<[email-masked]></[email-masked]></div><div dir="auto"><b>Date: </b>Sat, Dec 26, 2020 5:36 PM</div><div dir="auto"><b>To: </b>Spridgets (E-mail);</div><div dir="auto"><b>Cc: </b></div><div dir="auto"><b>Subject:</b>[Spridgets] Trying to diagnose an idle/stalling issue</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div dir="ltr">Greetings&nbsp;everyone.&nbsp; I was semi-active on this list several (like 10) years ago.&nbsp; I have a 1959 Bugeye with a 1275 engine that had up until last month been sitting dormant in my basement garage.&nbsp; I have the car back on the road and running fairly well, but I am dealing with an idle issue.<div><br></div><div>The card starts fine and will idle fine after it warms up; however, when coming to a stop, the idle drops to a point where the engine will stall if I don't give it a little gas.&nbsp; After it catches back up, the car will go back to idling fine.&nbsp; Right now I have the idle set at about 1,000 rpms.</div><div><br></div><div>The plugs on the car look good, so I think the mixture is fine.&nbsp; I have played with the timing&nbsp;a little as well.&nbsp; Any suggestions as to where else to look?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Kurt Jones<br>Conway, Arkansas<br>1963 TR4 - CT19389L<br>1959 AH Bugeye - AN5L23250<br><br></div></div></div></div>
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From: "Kurtis J. via Spridgets" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 18:20:35 -0600

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Thanks for the tips Chuck.  Hopefully I'll get the chance tomorrow to do
some additional testing.

Kurt

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 5:39 PM crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Sounds like you are hunting for a vacume leak.    From your description it
> does not act like an electrical issue.   BUT!  BEFORE you mess with too
> much of you are still running points check 2 things!!   Be certain your
> points are clean ( they grow some kind of crud) and you have a proper gap.
> If that's all good OR you have electronic ignition I suspect you are
> hitting a temporary lean on fuel situation mostly due to some kind of
> vacume leak.  Look for a vacume line to the distributor literally cracked.
> Or there is an old stand by vacume leak check....  Use some choke spray
> with the car running and spray around the intake manifold to head gasket or
> the carb spacers gaskets.   If you get a pick up in RPM'S you just sprayed
> the "leak" area.
> A simple check is to be certain the intake to head nuts are tight and snug
> the 4 nuts retaining the carbs on the intake manifold.
> Share your findings once you had some tinker time.
> Chuck
>
> *Sent from my LG Mobile*
>
> ------ Original message------
> *From: *Kurtis J. via Spridgets
> *Date: *Sat, Dec 26, 2020 5:36 PM
> *To: *Spridgets (E-mail);
> *Cc: *
> *Subject:*[Spridgets] Trying to diagnose an idle/stalling issue
>
> Greetings everyone.  I was semi-active on this list several (like 10)
> years ago.  I have a 1959 Bugeye with a 1275 engine that had up until last
> month been sitting dormant in my basement garage.& nbsp; I have the car
> back on the road and running fairly well, but I am dealing with an idle
> issue.
>
> The card starts fine and will idle fine after it warms up; however, when
> coming to a stop, the idle drops to a point where the engine will stall if
> I don't give it a little gas.  After it catches back up, the car will go
> back to idling fine.  Right now I have the idle set at about 1,000 rpms.
>
> The plugs on the car look good, so I think the mixture is fine.  I have
> played with the timing a little as well.  Any suggestions as to where else
> to look?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Kurt Jones
> Conway, Arkansas
> 1963 TR4 - CT19389L
> 1959 AH Bugeye - AN5L23250
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for the tips Chuck.=C2=A0 Hopefully I&#39;ll get th=
e chance tomorrow to do some additional testing.<div><br></div><div>Kurt</d=
iv></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_att=
r">On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 5:39 PM crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

<div>
    <div style=3D"font-size:10pt"><div dir=3D"auto">Sounds like you are hun=
ting for a vacume leak.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 From your description it does not act =
like an electrical issue.=C2=A0 =C2=A0BUT!=C2=A0 BEFORE you mess with too m=
uch of you are still running points check 2 things!!=C2=A0 =C2=A0Be certain=
 your points are clean ( they grow some kind of crud) and you have a proper=
 gap.=C2=A0 If that&#39;s all good OR you have electronic ignition I suspec=
t you are hitting a temporary lean on fuel situation mostly due to some kin=
d of vacume leak.=C2=A0 Look for a vacume line to the distributor literally=
 cracked.=C2=A0 Or there is an old stand by vacume leak check....=C2=A0 Use=
 some choke spray with the car running and spray around the intake manifold=
 to head gasket or the carb spacers gaskets.=C2=A0 =C2=A0If you get a pick =
up in RPM&#39;S you just sprayed the &quot;leak&quot; area.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto">A simple check is to be certain the intake to head nuts are tight=
 and snug the 4 nuts retaining the carbs on the
  intake manifold.=C2=A0 =C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">Share your findings =
once you had some tinker time.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Chuck</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-size:9pt"><i>Sent =
from my LG Mobile</i></div></div></div><div style=3D"font-size:10pt"><div i=
d=3D"gmail-m_1091590049713224254LGEmailHeader" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"aut=
o"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">------ Original message------</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><b>From: </b>Kurtis J. via Spridgets<u></u><u></u></div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><b>Date: </b>Sat, Dec 26, 2020 5:36 PM</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>=
To: </b>Spridgets (E-mail);</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>Cc: </b></div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><b>Subject:</b>[Spridgets] Trying to diagnose an idle/stalling i=
ssue</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Greetings=C2=
=A0everyone.=C2=A0 I was semi-active on this list several (like 10) years a=
go.=C2=A0 I have a 1959 Bugeye with a 1275 engine that had up until last mo=
nth been sitting dormant in my basement garage.&amp;
 nbsp; I have the car back on the road and running fairly well, but I am de=
aling with an idle issue.<div><br></div><div>The card starts fine and will =
idle fine after it warms up; however, when coming to a stop, the idle drops=
 to a point where the engine will stall if I don&#39;t give it a little gas=
.=C2=A0 After it catches back up, the car will go back to idling fine.=C2=
=A0 Right now I have the idle set at about 1,000 rpms.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>The plugs on the car look good, so I think the mixture is fine.=C2=A0 =
I have played with the timing=C2=A0a little as well.=C2=A0 Any suggestions =
as to where else to look?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>-- <br=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Kurt Jones<br>Conway, Arkansas<br>1963 T=
R4 - CT19389L<br>1959 AH Bugeye - AN5L23250<br><br></div></div></div></div>
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From: "Kurtis J. via Spridgets" <[email-masked]>
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I think I've found the issue.  There is a vacuum leak where the intake
manifold mates to the cylinder head.  I had recently had the head off the
engine and apparently didn't get something quite right when I put it all
back together.  The only leak I could find was near the front of the engine
affecting the front carburettor.

I plan to remove the intake manifold and replace the manifold gasket.  Is
there some special precaution/prep I should follow to ensure success?

Thanks for your help.

Kurt

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 6:20 PM Kurtis J. <[email-masked]> wrote:

>> Sounds like you are hunting for a vacume leak.    From your description
>> it does not act like an electrical issue.   BUT!  BEFORE you mess with too
>> A simple check is to be certain the intake to head nuts are tight and
>> snug the 4 nuts retaining the carbs on the intake manifold.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I think I&#39;ve found the issue.=C2=A0 There is a vacuum=
=C2=A0leak where the intake manifold mates to the cylinder head.=C2=A0 I ha=
d recently had the head off the engine and apparently didn&#39;t get someth=
ing quite right when I put it all back together.=C2=A0 The only leak I coul=
d find was near the front of the engine affecting the front carburettor.<di=
v><br></div><div>I plan to remove the intake manifold and replace the manif=
old gasket.=C2=A0 Is there some special precaution/prep I should follow to =
ensure success?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your help.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Kurt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 6:20 PM Kurtis J. &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></di=
v><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks=
 for the tips Chuck.=C2=A0 Hopefully I&#39;ll get the chance tomorrow to do=
 some additional testing.<div><br></div><div>Kurt</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 26, 2020=
 at 5:39 PM crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridget=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

<div>
d=3D"gmail-m_-5853231580146483280gmail-m_1091590049713224254LGEmailHeader" =
dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">------ Original =
message------</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>From: </b>Kurtis J. via Spridgets<u=
></u><u></u></div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>Date: </b>Sat, Dec 26, 2020 5:36 PM<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>To: </b>Spridgets (E-mail);</div><div dir=3D"auto=
"><b>Cc: </b></div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>Subject:</b>[Spridgets] Trying to d=
iagnose an idle/stalling issue</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Greetings=C2=A0everyone.=C2=A0 I was semi-active on this list s=
everal (like 10) years ago.=C2=A0 I have a 1959 Bugeye with a 1275 engine t=
hat had up until last month been sitting dormant in my basement garage.&amp=
;
 nbsp; I have the car back on the road and running fairly well, but I am de=
aling with an idle issue.<div><br></div><div>The card starts fine and will =
idle fine after it warms up; however, when coming to a stop, the idle drops=
 to a point where the engine will stall if I don&#39;t give it a little gas=
.=C2=A0 After it catches back up, the car will go back to idling fine.=C2=
=A0 Right now I have the idle set at about 1,000 rpms.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>The plugs on the car look good, so I think the mixture is fine.=C2=A0 =
I have played with the timing=C2=A0a little as well.=C2=A0 Any suggestions =
as to where else to look?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>-- <br=

><div dir=3D"ltr">Kurt Jones<br>Conway, Arkansas<br>1963 TR4 - CT19389L<br>=
1959 AH Bugeye - AN5L23250<br><br></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Kurt Jones<br>Conway, Arkansas<=
br>1963 TR4 - CT19389L<br>1959 AH Bugeye - AN5L23250<br><br></div></div>

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