Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Trying to diagnose an idle/stalling issue

From: crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 13:32:36 -0500

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Sent from my LG MobileJust the usual surface prep.   Clean both mating surfaces .    The intake/exhaust gaskets seem to have quite a bit of compressability in the material.   Try tightening the manifold nuts before disassembly .   Be certsin you have the thick washers under the nuts on each of the studs.   The washers spread the retaining nuts pressure in securing the manifolds.   If you have brass nuts be careful of over tightening those because the steel studs try to strip the threads out of the softer brass nuts.  Chuck

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    <div style="font-size: 10pt;"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:9pt;"><i>Sent from my LG Mobile</i></div></div></div><div style="font-size: 10pt;"><div id="LGEmailHeader" dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Just the usual surface prep.&nbsp; &nbsp;Clean both mating surfaces .&nbsp; &nbsp; The intake/exhaust gaskets seem to have quite a bit of compressability in the material.&nbsp; &nbsp;Try tightening the manifold nuts before disassembly .&nbsp; &nbsp;Be certsin you have the thick washers under the nuts on each of the studs.&nbsp; &nbsp;The washers spread the retaining nuts pressure in securing the manifolds.&nbsp; &nbsp;</div><div dir="auto">If you have brass nuts be careful of over tightening those because the steel studs try to strip the threads out of the softer brass nuts.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir="auto">Chuck</div></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div>
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From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 14:29:52 -0500

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Some intake manifold gaskets have a steel side.  Put the steel side against t=
he head.

Rick

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Some intake manifold gaskets have a steel s=
ide. &nbsp;Put the steel side against the head.<div><br></div><div>Rick<br><=
br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my keyboard</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite">On Dec 28, 2020, at 2:11 PM, crusaderchuck55--- via Spridg=
ets &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

    <div style=3D"font-size: 10pt;"><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-size:9pt;"><i>Sent from=
 my LG Mobile</i></div></div></div><div style=3D"font-size: 10pt;"><div id=3D=
"LGEmailHeader" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">Just the usual surface prep.&=
nbsp; &nbsp;Clean both mating surfaces .&nbsp; &nbsp; The intake/exhaust gas=
kets seem to have quite a bit of compressability in the material.&nbsp; &nbs=
p;Try tightening the manifold nuts before disassembly .&nbsp; &nbsp;Be certs=
in you have the thick washers under the nuts on each of the studs.&nbsp; &nb=
sp;The washers spread the retaining nuts pressure in securing the manifolds.=
&nbsp; &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto">If you have brass nuts be careful of ov=
er tightening those because the steel studs try to strip the threads out of t=
he softer brass nuts.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto">Chuck</div></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div></div>
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From: "Kurtis J. via Spridgets" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 08:25:16 -0600

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Okay, so I did try tightening the nuts.  It did seem to reduce the vacuum
leak somewhat, but did not eliminate it completely.  My next step is to
disassemble and replace the gasket.  Is there any recommendation for a
particular gasket?  Can (or should) any type of gasket dressing or sealant
be applied to the manifold gasket?

Kurt

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> *Sent from my LG Mobile*
> Just the usual surface prep.   Clean both mating surfaces .    The
> intake/exhaust gaskets seem to have quite a bit of compressability in the
> material.   Try tightening the manifold nuts before disassembly .   Be
> certsin you have the thick washers under the nuts on each of the studs.
>  The washers spread the retaining nuts pressure in securing the manifolds.
>
> If you have brass nuts be careful of over tightening those because the
> steel studs try to strip the threads out of the softer brass nuts.
> Chuck
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1963 TR4 - CT19389L
1959 AH Bugeye - AN5L23250

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Okay, so I did try tightening the nuts.=C2=A0 It did seem =
to reduce the vacuum leak somewhat, but did not eliminate=C2=A0it completel=
y.=C2=A0 My next step is to disassemble and replace the gasket.=C2=A0 Is th=
ere any recommendation for a particular gasket?=C2=A0 Can (or should) any t=
ype of gasket=C2=A0dressing or sealant be applied to the manifold gasket?<d=
iv><br></div><div>Kurt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 12:32 PM <a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

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    <div style=3D"font-size:10pt"><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-size:9pt"><i>Sent from =
my LG Mobile</i></div></div></div><div style=3D"font-size:10pt"><div id=3D"=
gmail-m_2977964902445481048LGEmailHeader" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">Ju=
st the usual surface prep.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Clean both mating surfaces .=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 The intake/exhaust gaskets seem to have quite a bit of compressabili=
ty in the material.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Try tightening the manifold nuts before dis=
assembly .=C2=A0 =C2=A0Be certsin you have the thick washers under the nuts=
 on each of the studs.=C2=A0 =C2=A0The washers spread the retaining nuts pr=
essure in securing the manifolds.=C2=A0 =C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">If yo=
u have brass nuts be careful of over tightening those because the steel stu=
ds try to strip the threads out of the softer brass nuts.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div>=
<div dir=3D"auto">Chuck</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div></div>
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</div></blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Kurt Jones<br>Conway, A=
rkansas<br>1963 TR4 - CT19389L<br>1959 AH Bugeye - AN5L23250<br><br></div><=
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From: Billy Zoom via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 10:38:56 -0800

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You put these rings back in, right?
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From: "Kurtis J. via Spridgets" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 06:54:02 -0600

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Boy, I sure like to think I did!  But I've done some pretty dumb things
before.  I'll be diving into it in a few days, so I'll find out for sure
then.

Kurt

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Boy, I sure like to think I did!=C2=A0 But I&#39;ve done s=
ome pretty dumb things before.=C2=A0 I&#39;ll be diving into it in a few da=
ys, so I&#39;ll find out for sure then.<div><br></div><div>Kurt</div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue=
, Dec 29, 2020 at 12:38 PM Billy Zoom &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:billyzoom@billy=
zoom.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
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b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">=
You put these rings back in, right?<img id=3D"gmail-m_67489405535168294819C=
A0BFDD-9882-4866-AF9A-B81B3B70B84C" src=3D"cid:176b3b1de48ab571a31"></div><=
/blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Kurt Jones<br>Conway, Arkansas<b=
r>1963 TR4 - CT19389L<br>1959 AH Bugeye - AN5L23250<br><br></div></div>

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From: Paul Van Wig via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
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If you did not the intake would have been a pain because it doesn=E2=80=99t=
 have
the index for the studs like the earlier ones. Unless you are using an
earlier intake.

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<div dir=3D"auto">If you did not the intake would have been a pain because =
it doesn=E2=80=99t have the index for the studs like the earlier ones. Unle=
ss you are using an earlier intake.=C2=A0</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 4:54 =
AM Kurtis J. via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left=
-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Boy, I sure like to think I did!=C2=A0 But I&#39;ve done some pret=
ty dumb things before.=C2=A0 I&#39;ll be diving into it in a few days, so I=
&#39;ll find out for sure then.<div><br></div><div>Kurt</div></div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 29=
, 2020 at 12:38 PM Billy Zoom &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-wi=
dth:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,=
204,204)"><div>You put these rings back in, right?<img src=3D"cid:176b3b1de=
48ab571a31" style=3D"width:260px;max-width:100%"></div></blockquote></div><=
br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ku=
rt Jones<br>Conway, Arkansas<br>1963 TR4 - CT19389L<br>1959 AH Bugeye - AN5=
L23250<br><br></div></div>
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