Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Moss Motors to Aquire Victoria British

From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 18:13:15 +0000 (UTC)

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 One would expect at least a rudimentary knowledge of what the sales person=
 is selling.=C2=A0 At least Moss sales personnel know the difference betwee=
n a brake rotor and a windshield wiper.=C2=A0 VB people, not so much.=C2=A0=
 And yes, I do ask the butcher in the meat department about cooking an expe=
nsive cut of meat.=C2=A0 I suspect even Victoria British sales personnel ca=
n cook an egg.Mike M

    On Monday, November 23, 2020, 7:56:50 AM PST, Rick Fisk <refisk@charter=
mi.net> wrote: =20
=20
 Why would you call a parts supplier for technical advice? =C2=A0Do you cal=
l the grocery store to find out how to cook and eat eggs? =C2=A0 :-)

Sent from my keyboard

On Nov 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, Michael MacLean <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:

=EF=BB=BFBack in 2003 when I was in locomotive engineer school with BNSF Ra=
ilway I visited the Victoria British warehouse.=C2=A0 Vicky Brit was just o=
ne freeway exit away from the school.=C2=A0 I went to buy engine parts for =
my BN2 and wanted to inspect them in person before buying them.=C2=A0 Much =
better that way because returning parts is such a financial drain.=C2=A0 Th=
e difference between Moss and VB was more than price and selection.=C2=A0 W=
hen you call Moss, the sales person is somewhat to very knowledgeable about=
 the parts they sell.=C2=A0 When you call Victoria British this is not the =
case.=C2=A0 Sales personnel there only know part numbers.=C2=A0 They can on=
ly tell you if the part you want is in inventory or not.=C2=A0 Most of the =
time the VB sales person knows nothing about British cars.=C2=A0 I'm guessi=
ng the best we get out of this aquisition is added inventory of parts that =
Moss did not sell before, at least until they run out.=C2=A0 VB prices are =
gone.=C2=A0 That being said, I have been buying a lot from Ahead4Healeys an=
d AH Spares lately.=C2=A0 Actually better prices than Moss.=C2=A0 Moss ship=
ping has gotten slower taking up to 4-5 days to be delivered using their Sa=
ver Fare.=C2=A0 I seem to remember, if you ordered your parts before 3PM yo=
u got them the next day.=C2=A0 I have received parts from Ahead4healeys in =
3 days in the recent past all the way from England.=C2=A0 Go figure.=C2=A0 =
No dog in this fight, just a personal observation.Mike MacLean

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  On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 7:55 AM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets<spridgets@autox.=
team.net> wrote:   And Moss has parts that VB didn't.=C2=A0 VB's prices wer=
e almost always lower for the parts they bought from Moss and resold.=C2=A0=
 We all lose either way.

Sent from my keyboard

> On Nov 22, 2020, at 10:42 AM, Billy Zoom <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFVB carried parts that Moss didn=E2=80=99t.
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">One would expect at least a =
rudimentary knowledge of what the sales person is selling.&nbsp; At least M=
oss sales personnel know the difference between a brake rotor and a windshi=
eld wiper.&nbsp; VB people, not so much.&nbsp; And yes, I do ask the butche=
r in the meat department about cooking an expensive cut of meat.&nbsp; I su=
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                    On Monday, November 23, 2020, 7:56:50 AM PST, Rick Fisk=
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                <div><div id=3D"yiv6107041647"><div>Why would you call a pa=
rts supplier for technical advice? &nbsp;Do you call the grocery store to f=
ind out how to cook and eat eggs? &nbsp; :-)<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D=
"none"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my keyboard</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div cl=
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cLean &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D=
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d=3D"yiv6107041647yqtfd99367"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
=EF=BB=BFBack in 2003 when I was in locomotive engineer school with BNSF Ra=
ilway I visited the Victoria British warehouse.&nbsp; Vicky Brit was just o=
ne freeway exit away from the school.&nbsp; I went to buy engine parts for =
my BN2 and wanted to inspect them in person before buying them.&nbsp; Much =
better that way because returning parts is such a financial drain.&nbsp; Th=
e difference between Moss and VB was more than price and selection.&nbsp; W=
hen you call Moss, the sales person is somewhat to very knowledgeable about=
 the parts they sell.&nbsp; When you call Victoria British this is not the =
case.&nbsp; Sales personnel there only know part numbers.&nbsp; They can on=
ly tell you if the part you want is in inventory or not.&nbsp; Most of the =
time the VB sales person knows nothing about British cars.&nbsp; I'm guessi=
ng the best we get out of this aquisition is added inventory of parts that =
Moss did not sell before, at least until they run out.&nbsp; VB prices are =
gone.&nbsp; That being said, I have been buying a lot from Ahead4Healeys an=
d AH Spares lately.&nbsp; Actually better prices than Moss.&nbsp; Moss ship=
ping has gotten slower taking up to 4-5 days to be delivered using their Sa=
ver Fare.&nbsp; I seem to remember, if you ordered your parts before 3PM yo=
u got them the next day.&nbsp; I have received parts from Ahead4healeys in =
3 days in the recent past all the way from England.&nbsp; Go figure.&nbsp; =
No dog in this fight, just a personal observation.<div id=3D"yiv6107041647y=
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x solid #6D00F6;"> And Moss has parts that VB didn't.&nbsp; VB's prices wer=
e almost always lower for the parts they bought from Moss and resold.&nbsp;=
 We all lose either way.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Sent from my =
keyboard<br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv6107041647yqt9643225303" id=3D"=
yiv6107041647yqtfd07148"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; On Nov 22, 2020, at 10:42 =
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From: Weslake1330 via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 16:12:48 +0000

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Ok. so here's my confession about doubting the knowledge of a parts
person.  I was in my late twenties and getting used to a Weber DCOE on my
Sprite for the first time.  I'd been supplied (as it turned out) standard
jetting for a modified engine with a K&N and began increasing jet sizes
before I even took it to the rolling road (chassis dyno).  I was living in
Sussex and in nearby Brighton there was a specialist carburettor and other
stuff job.

I entered the shop/store and was met by an attractive (older than me)
woman, with long hair.  She smiled and asked if could speak to someone who
knew about Weber DCOE carbs.  She stopped smiling and told me 'I know about
Weber DCOE carbs'.  I thought - yeah right!.  Well as it turned out she
really knew her stuff, a lot more than the young ME and was also the first
person I heard correctly pronounce David Vizard's name (he himself turned
out to the second person I heard pronounce it correctly).  Lesson learned,
don't judge a book by its (pretty and female) cover.

On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 at 18:13, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> One would expect at least a rudimentary knowledge of what the sales perso=
n
> is selling.  At least Moss sales personnel know the difference between a
> brake rotor and a windshield wiper.  VB people, not so much.  And yes, I =
do
> ask the butcher in the meat department about cooking an expensive cut of
> meat.  I suspect even Victoria British sales personnel can cook an egg.
> Mike M
>
> On Monday, November 23, 2020, 7:56:50 AM PST, Rick Fisk <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Why would you call a parts supplier for technical advice?  Do you call th=
e
> grocery store to find out how to cook and eat eggs?   :-)
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Nov 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, Michael MacLean <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BFBack in 2003 when I was in locomotive engineer school with BNSF =
Railway I
> visited the Victoria British warehouse.  Vicky Brit was just one freeway
> exit away from the school.  I went to buy engine parts for my BN2 and
> wanted to inspect them in person before buying them.  Much better that wa=
y
> because returning parts is such a financial drain.  The difference betwee=
n
> Moss and VB was more than price and selection.  When you call Moss, the
> sales person is somewhat to very knowledgeable about the parts they sell.
> When you call Victoria British this is not the case.  Sales personnel the=
re
> only know part numbers.  They can only tell you if the part you want is i=
n
> inventory or not.  Most of the time the VB sales person knows nothing abo=
ut
> British cars.  I'm guessing the best we get out of this aquisition is add=
ed
> inventory of parts that Moss did not sell before, at least until they run
> out.  VB prices are gone.  That being said, I have been buying a lot from
> Ahead4Healeys and AH Spares lately.  Actually better prices than Moss.
> Moss shipping has gotten slower taking up to 4-5 days to be delivered usi=
ng
> their Saver Fare.  I seem to remember, if you ordered your parts before 3=
PM
> you got them the next day.  I have received parts from Ahead4healeys in 3
> days in the recent past all the way from England.  Go figure.  No dog in
> this fight, just a personal observation.
> Mike MacLean
>
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> On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 7:55 AM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets
> <[email-masked]> wrote:
> And Moss has parts that VB didn't.  VB's prices were almost always lower
> for the parts they bought from Moss and resold.  We all lose either way.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Ok. so here&#39;s my confession about doubting the knowled=
ge of a parts person.=C2=A0 I was in my late twenties and getting used to a=
 Weber DCOE on my Sprite for the=C2=A0first time.=C2=A0 I&#39;d been suppli=
ed (as it turned out) standard jetting for a modified engine with a K&amp;N=
 and began increasing=C2=A0jet sizes before I even took it to the rolling r=
oad (chassis dyno).=C2=A0 I was living in Sussex and in nearby Brighton the=
re was a specialist carburettor and other stuff job.<div><br></div><div>I e=
ntered the shop/store and was met by an attractive (older than me) woman, w=
ith long hair.=C2=A0 She smiled and asked if could speak to someone who kne=
w about Weber DCOE carbs.=C2=A0 She stopped smiling and told me &#39;I know=
 about Weber DCOE carbs&#39;.=C2=A0 I thought - yeah right!.=C2=A0 Well as =
it turned out she really knew her stuff, a lot more than the young ME and w=
as also the first person I heard correctly pronounce David Vizard&#39;s nam=
e (he himself turned out to the second person I heard pronounce it correctl=
y).=C2=A0 Lesson learned, don&#39;t judge a book by its (pretty and female)=
 cover.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 at 18:13, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>=
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;times new roman&quot;,&quot;new york&quot;,=
times,serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">One would expect at least a rudimentary knowledge =
of what the sales person is selling.=C2=A0 At least Moss sales personnel kn=
ow the difference between a brake rotor and a windshield wiper.=C2=A0 VB pe=
ople, not so much.=C2=A0 And yes, I do ask the butcher in the meat departme=
nt about cooking an expensive cut of meat.=C2=A0 I suspect even Victoria Br=
itish sales personnel can cook an egg.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike M<br></di=
v><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-7472492132246077661yahoo_quoted_616326825=
5">
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Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
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                    On Monday, November 23, 2020, 7:56:50 AM PST, Rick Fisk=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">refisk@chart=
ermi.net</a>&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div>
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                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-7472492132246077661yiv6107041647">=
<div>Why would you call a parts supplier for technical advice?=C2=A0 Do you=
 call the grocery store to find out how to cook and eat eggs? =C2=A0 :-)<br=
 clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my keyboard</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"gmail-m_-7472492132246077661yiv6107041647yq=
tfd50554"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Nov 22, 2020, at =
3:03 PM, Michael MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br=
 clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-74724921322460=
77661yiv6107041647yqtfd99367"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
=EF=BB=BFBack in 2003 when I was in locomotive engineer school with BNSF Ra=
ilway I visited the Victoria British warehouse.=C2=A0 Vicky Brit was just o=
ne freeway exit away from the school.=C2=A0 I went to buy engine parts for =
my BN2 and wanted to inspect them in person before buying them.=C2=A0 Much =
better that way because returning parts is such a financial drain.=C2=A0 Th=
e difference between Moss and VB was more than price and selection.=C2=A0 W=
hen you call Moss, the sales person is somewhat to very knowledgeable about=
 the parts they sell.=C2=A0 When you call Victoria British this is not the =
case.=C2=A0 Sales personnel there only know part numbers.=C2=A0 They can on=
ly tell you if the part you want is in inventory or not.=C2=A0 Most of the =
time the VB sales person knows nothing about British cars.=C2=A0 I&#39;m gu=
essing the best we get out of this aquisition is added inventory of parts t=
hat Moss did not sell before, at least until they run out.=C2=A0 VB prices =
are gone.=C2=A0 That being said, I have been buying a lot from Ahead4Healey=
s and AH Spares lately.=C2=A0 Actually better prices than Moss.=C2=A0 Moss =
shipping has gotten slower taking up to 4-5 days to be delivered using thei=
r Saver Fare.=C2=A0 I seem to remember, if you ordered your parts before 3P=
M you got them the next day.=C2=A0 I have received parts from Ahead4healeys=
 in 3 days in the recent past all the way from England.=C2=A0 Go figure.=C2=
=A0 No dog in this fight, just a personal observation.<div id=3D"gmail-m_-7=
472492132246077661yiv6107041647yMail_cursorElementTracker_1606075036401">Mi=
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0px;border-left:1px solid rgb(109,0,246)"> And Moss has parts that VB didn&=
#39;t.=C2=A0 VB&#39;s prices were almost always lower for the parts they bo=
ught from Moss and resold.=C2=A0 We all lose either way.<br clear=3D"none">=
<br clear=3D"none">Sent from my keyboard<br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"gmail=
-m_-7472492132246077661yiv6107041647yqtfd07148"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; On =
Nov 22, 2020, at 10:42 AM, Billy Zoom &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect=
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=BB=BFVB carried parts that Moss didn=E2=80=99t.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br=
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