Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Moss Motors to Aquire Victoria British

From: Ron Soave via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 14:20:47 -0600

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In all honesty, these days at least the Moss people have a clue as to what c=
ars they sell parts for. Vicky Brit turned into a second rate operation year=
s ago. There was absolutely no one there who was dedicated to the LBC busine=
ss once Long Motors bought them. I pretty much use British Parts Northwest. T=
hey have less inventory but the prices are great, as I assume they buy exces=
s inventory or asset liquidations of shops. I used them exclusively when I r=
estored my first car 28(!) years ago, a Spitfire. At the time the sole propr=
ietor was Greg, and now his son Layton pretty much runs it with a few other s=
taff. They are good people, and Greg started the biz to support his SCCA rac=
ing habit 40 years ago. Of course, while he=E2=80=99s not buying anymore stu=
ff as far as I know, Peter C at World Wide is the best. Check the eBay store=
. The parts he has are typically NOS or old school aftermarket. He is an enc=
yclopedia.=20

The world changes and we have to change with it -=20

Ron Soave

> On Nov 28, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Linda Grunthaner <[email-masked]> wrote=
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> List,
> I always went to Vicky (Frank's wonderful nickname) first before going to t=
he dark side (Moss) it seemed as though I received less crap from third worl=
d countries that way. I hope Moss doesn't screw it up for us all.
> Linda
>=20
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:32 PM Ron Soave via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.=
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>> I have parts neither has. I=E2=80=99m looking to get bought out!
>>=20
>> Ron Soave
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>> > On Nov 22, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Rick Fisk <[email-masked]> wrote:
>> >=20
>> > =EF=BB=BFAnd Moss has parts that VB didn't.  VB's prices were almost al=
ways lower for the parts they bought from Moss and resold.  We all lose eith=
er way.
>> >=20
>> > Sent from my keyboard
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>> >> On Nov 22, 2020, at 10:42 AM, Billy Zoom <[email-masked]> wro=
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>> >> =EF=BB=BFVB carried parts that Moss didn=E2=80=99t.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">In all honesty, these days at least the Mos=
s people have a clue as to what cars they sell parts for. Vicky Brit turned i=
nto a second rate operation years ago. There was absolutely no one there who=
 was dedicated to the LBC business once Long Motors bought them. I pretty mu=
ch use British Parts Northwest. They have less inventory but the prices are g=
reat, as I assume they buy excess inventory or asset liquidations of shops. I=
 used them exclusively when I restored my first car 28(!) years ago, a Spitf=
ire. At the time the sole proprietor was Greg, and now his son Layton pretty=
 much runs it with a few other staff. They are good people, and Greg started=
 the biz to support his SCCA racing habit 40 years ago. Of course, while he=E2=
=80=99s not buying anymore stuff as far as I know, Peter C at World Wide is t=
he best. Check the eBay store. The parts he has are typically NOS or old sch=
ool aftermarket. He is an encyclopedia.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>The world c=
hanges and we have to change with it -&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron Soa=
ve</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Nov 28, 2020, at 8=
:49 AM, Linda Grunthaner &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockq=
uote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"l=
tr">List,<div>I always went to Vicky (Frank's wonderful nickname) first befo=
re going to the dark side (Moss) it seemed as though I received less crap fr=
om third world countries that way. I hope Moss doesn't screw it up for us al=
l.</div><div>Linda</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:32 PM Ron Soave via Spridge=
ts &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-co=
lor:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I have parts neither has. I=E2=80=99m=
 looking to get bought out!<br>
<br>
Ron Soave<br>
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&gt; On Nov 22, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Rick Fisk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:refisk@cha=
rtermi.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; =EF=BB=BFAnd Moss has parts that VB didn't.&nbsp; VB's prices were almo=
st always lower for the parts they bought from Moss and resold.&nbsp; We all=
 lose either way.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Sent from my keyboard<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; On Nov 22, 2020, at 10:42 AM, Billy Zoom &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bill=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; =EF=BB=BFVB carried parts that Moss didn=E2=80=99t.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
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From: Billy Zoom via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 13:32:31 -0800

BPN is fine for you Triumph guys, but they don’t carry a lot of Sprite parts. I always check them first though.
I’ve never expected Moss to know anything about cars, because if they did, they would have corrected the mistakes in their Sprite catalogs decades ago, and their website would be at least somewhat useful. At least VB had a good catalog and a functioning website. I don’t usually expect people who sell things to know much about anything other than selling things. YMMV.
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From: Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 06:26:33 -0500

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Thanks Ron & Billy for the BPN site
https://www.bpnorthwest.com/mg/midget.html. I bought shocks from Peter
Caldwell of World Wide but I didn't think he had a large catalog.

What are everyone's thoughts on buying from the bugeye guy
https://bugeyeguyparts.com/collections/all
He doesn't carry a lot but he is dedicated to the Spridgets, and has grown
in the hobby over the years.
Linda

On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 4:32 PM Billy Zoom <[email-masked]> wrote:

> BPN is fine for you Triumph guys, but they don=E2=80=99t carry a lot of S=
prite
> parts. I always check them first though.
> I=E2=80=99ve never expected Moss to know anything about cars, because if =
they did,
> they would have corrected the mistakes in their Sprite catalogs decades
> ago, and their website would be at least somewhat useful. At least VB had=
 a
> good catalog and a functioning website. I don=E2=80=99t usually expect pe=
ople who
> sell things to know much about anything other than selling things. YMMV.
> BZ

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Ron &amp; Billy f=
or the BPN site=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.bpnorthwest.com/mg/midget.html"=
>https://www.bpnorthwest.com/mg/midget.html</a>. I bought shocks from Peter=
 Caldwell of World Wide but I didn&#39;t think he had a large catalog.</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div>What are everyone&#39;s thoughts on buying=
 from the bugeye guy=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://bugeyeguyparts.com/collections=
/all">https://bugeyeguyparts.com/collections/all</a></div><div>He doesn&#39=
;t=C2=A0carry a lot but he is dedicated=C2=A0to the Spridgets, and has grow=
n in the hobby over the years.</div><div>Linda</div></div></div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 28, 2=
020 at 4:32 PM Billy Zoom &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">bi=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-st=
yle:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">BPN is fine =
for you Triumph guys, but they don=E2=80=99t carry a lot of Sprite parts. I=
 always check them first though.<br>
I=E2=80=99ve never expected Moss to know anything about cars, because if th=
ey did, they would have corrected the mistakes in their Sprite catalogs dec=
ades ago, and their website would be at least somewhat useful. At least VB =
had a good catalog and a functioning website. I don=E2=80=99t usually expec=
t people who sell things to know much about anything other than selling thi=
ngs. YMMV.<br>
BZ</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:smal=
l">&quot;Pay if forward&quot; in honor of Frank Clarici III, Spritenut</spa=
n><br></div></div>

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From: Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 06:48:57 -0500

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List,
I know AH Spares is not cheap, especially adding in for shipping and
shipping time but what is the list's thoughts on them for quality?
https://www.ahspares.co.uk/sprite/?utm_source=3Dnewsletter&utm_medium=3Dema=
il

Linda

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 6:26 AM Linda Grunthaner <[email-masked]>
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> He doesn't carry a lot but he is dedicated to the Spridgets, and has grow=
n
>> BPN is fine for you Triumph guys, but they don=E2=80=99t carry a lot of =
Sprite
>> I=E2=80=99ve never expected Moss to know anything about cars, because if=
 they
>> did, they would have corrected the mistakes in their Sprite catalogs
>> decades ago, and their website would be at least somewhat useful. At lea=
st
>> VB had a good catalog and a functioning website. I don=E2=80=99t usually=
 expect
>> people who sell things to know much about anything other than selling
>> things. YMMV.
>> BZ
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>List,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">I know AH Spares is not c=
heap, especially adding in for shipping and shipping time but what is the l=
ist&#39;s thoughts on them for quality?=C2=A0<div><a href=3D"https://www.ah=
spares.co.uk/sprite/?utm_source=3Dnewsletter&amp;utm_medium=3Demail">https:=
//www.ahspares.co.uk/sprite/?utm_source=3Dnewsletter&amp;utm_medium=3Demail=
</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Linda</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at =
6:26 AM Linda Grunthaner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">grunth=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:sol=
id;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Ron &amp; Billy for the BPN site=C2=
=A0<a href=3D"https://www.bpnorthwest.com/mg/midget.html" target=3D"_blank"=
 from the bugeye guy=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://bugeyeguyparts.com/collections=
/all" target=3D"_blank">https://bugeyeguyparts.com/collections/all</a></div=
><div>He doesn&#39;t=C2=A0carry a lot but he is dedicated=C2=A0to the Sprid=
gets, and has grown in the hobby over the years.</div><div>Linda</div></div=
></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"=
>On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 4:32 PM Billy Zoom &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:billyzoom=
@billyzoom.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204=
,204);padding-left:1ex">BPN is fine for you Triumph guys, but they don=E2=
=80=99t carry a lot of Sprite parts. I always check them first though.<br>
I=E2=80=99ve never expected Moss to know anything about cars, because if th=
ey did, they would have corrected the mistakes in their Sprite catalogs dec=
ades ago, and their website would be at least somewhat useful. At least VB =
had a good catalog and a functioning website. I don=E2=80=99t usually expec=
t people who sell things to know much about anything other than selling thi=
ngs. YMMV.<br>
BZ</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:small">&quot;Pay if forward&qu=
ot; in honor of Frank Clarici III, Spritenut</span><br></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
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From: Ron Soave via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 09:29:52 -0600

I guess different strokes - I thought VB’s website was just a scanned in catalogue. You must be using an older computer 😜

Ron Soave

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From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 10:42:19 -0500

Not scanned in.  They use a computer to layout the paper catalog pages and also use those layouts online.  Gotta keep up with the technology Ron.  :-)

I always preferred the VB online catalog over the Moss catalog.  Very difficult sometimes to figure out where Moss has stuff hidden.  And VB always had better prices than Moss on the Moss products they sold.  VB accounted for about 40% of Moss total sales.  

Rick

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From: "Bill L. via Spridgets" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 09:20:50 -0800

Hello Linda,

I got parts  from bugeyeguy for my recent refresh. I have yet to be disappointed. He gets his parts from other suppliers, but so far they are quality. The gauges are from SPEEDHUT, .. so you can get the same from there cheaper, BUT not with the faces that look so good. The cast iron water pump.. all you can get is aluminium from anywhere else. I did the conversion to Negative Ground and went with the GENERNATOR and fake regulator. The Genernator burned out it's diodes in less than 100 miles but bugyeyeguy made good and I got a replacement. 

I got the carpet set from AHSPARES. I chose the jaguar quality and it's really nice stuff but a pain to fit. The body panels were exact replacements. Can't say about the rest of their stuff. 

>> I’ve never expected Moss to know anything about cars, because if they did,
>> ago, and their website would be at least somewhat useful. At least VB had a
>> good catalog and a functioning website. I don’t usually expect people who

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From: Billy Zoom via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 09:28:21 -0800

VB’s website is just like their catalog…which is much better than the Moss catalog. The Moss website is a complete waste of time. I still have to use their catalog to find a part number so I can order online, and then I usually get so pissed at their catalog that I order from VB instead. Even though Moss is only two hours away, orders from Moss, VB, and AH Spares all take about the same length of time. Shipping is cheapest from VB.

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From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 18:51:07 +0000 (UTC)

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 I just ordered a dash top repair panel for my MGB GT last night from Victo=
ria British.=C2=A0 Better price and cheaper shipping that Moss.=C2=A0 All t=
hings considered, the shipping time from Lenexa, Kansas is shorter than fro=
m Goleta, California and I am in the Southern California area.=C2=A0 I have=
 ordered parts for the MG, the BN2 and the Bugeye from VB several times in =
the last few weeks.=C2=A0 They are still selling and shipping at this time =
so I am going to take advantage of it while I can.=C2=A0 Also, I have recei=
ved orders from Ahead4Healeys in less time than Moss these days.=C2=A0 The =
shipping is ot too bad from them these days either.=C2=A0 Only problem is w=
hen you have to return something back to them or AH Spares.=C2=A0 Too much =
of a hassle, but both British suppliers have parts available that Moss or V=
B do not.=C2=A0 Just my two cents.Mike MacLean

    On Sunday, November 29, 2020, 9:37:34 AM PST, Billy Zoom via Spridgets =
<[email-masked]> wrote: =20
=20
 VB=E2=80=99s website is just like their catalog=E2=80=A6which is much bett=
er than the Moss catalog. The Moss website is a complete waste of time. I s=
till have to use their catalog to find a part number so I can order online,=
 and then I usually get so pissed at their catalog that I order from VB ins=
tead. Even though Moss is only two hours away, orders from Moss, VB, and AH=
 Spares all take about the same length of time. Shipping is cheapest from V=
B.

> I guess different strokes - I thought VB=E2=80=99s website was just a sca=
nned in catalogue. You must be using an older computer =F0=9F=98=9C
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I just ordered a dash top re=
pair panel for my MGB GT last night from Victoria British.&nbsp; Better pri=
ce and cheaper shipping that Moss.&nbsp; All things considered, the shippin=
g time from Lenexa, Kansas is shorter than from Goleta, California and I am=
 in the Southern California area.&nbsp; I have ordered parts for the MG, th=
e BN2 and the Bugeye from VB several times in the last few weeks.&nbsp; The=
y are still selling and shipping at this time so I am going to take advanta=
ge of it while I can.&nbsp; Also, I have received orders from Ahead4Healeys=
 in less time than Moss these days.&nbsp; The shipping is ot too bad from t=
hem these days either.&nbsp; Only problem is when you have to return someth=
ing back to them or AH Spares.&nbsp; Too much of a hassle, but both British=
 suppliers have parts available that Moss or VB do not.&nbsp; Just my two c=
ents.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Mike MacLean<br></div><di=
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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">VB=E2=80=99s website is just like the=
ir catalog=E2=80=A6which is much better than the Moss catalog. The Moss web=
site is a complete waste of time. I still have to use their catalog to find=
 a part number so I can order online, and then I usually get so pissed at t=
heir catalog that I order from VB instead. Even though Moss is only two hou=
rs away, orders from Moss, VB, and AH Spares all take about the same length=
 of time. Shipping is cheapest from VB.<div class=3D"yqt0533783622" id=3D"y=
qtfd35781"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; I guess different str=
okes - I thought VB=E2=80=99s website was just a scanned in catalogue. You =
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