Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Manifold flange thickness

From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 15:12:23 -0400

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Send it all back to Maniflow and tell them to get their shxt together.  No e=
xcuse for this kind of BS.  They make both parts and they don't match?  Ridi=
culous. =20

Have you contacted them?

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@autox=
.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Have the exhaust faces machined down 35 thou.  Being both Maniflo they sho=
uld have matched thicknan.  I have the LCB header (I don't know who makes it=
) on my 1275 and a Titan intake manifold for my single HIF44 carb.  They mat=
ch perfectly. Supposed to be a standard thickness for the flanges.=20
> Mike MacLean
>=20
> On Saturday, September 5, 2020, 11:22:59 AM PDT, Hal Faulkner via Spridget=
s <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Listerati,
> Trying to get off my rear end and make some progress in my long term overh=
aul of FROG AYE, my 1960 Frogeye. The engine is now a 20 over 1275 with some=
 porting, oversize valves and VP-SP3 cam. I have replaced the old 3 to one e=
xhaust manifold with a Maniflow LCB, the intake manifold is also by Maniflow=
, for the HS-2 carbs that came with the car.  The concern I have is that the=
 flange is thicker on the exhaust than on the intake.  Torquing the manifold=
s until the exhaust just touches the block (no gasket for this measurement) l=
eaves the intake manifold with about 35 thousands play.  Of course, this can=
 be taken up in the gasket, but that leaves the washer on the intake side (o=
f the common studs) sitting at a noticeable angle, which ,if nothing else, d=
oesn't look very cool.  The attached photo shows about .035" of feeler betwe=
en the washero and the intake manifold flange.  The exhaust manifold is snug=
. =20
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> What would you do? =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Send it all back to Maniflow and tell them t=
o get their shxt together. &nbsp;No excuse for this kind of BS. &nbsp;They m=
ake both parts and they don't match? &nbsp;Ridiculous. &nbsp;<div><br></div>=
<div>Have you contacted them?<br><div><br></div><div>Rick<br><br><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Sent from my keyboard</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te">On Sep 5, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;spridgets@=
autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"ydp3ed5ca22yahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;">=
<div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Have the exhaust faces machin=
ed down 35 thou.&nbsp; Being both Maniflo they should have matched thicknan.=
&nbsp; I have the LCB header (I don't know who makes it) on my 1275 and a Ti=
tan intake manifold for my single HIF44 carb.&nbsp; They match perfectly. Su=
pposed to be a standard thickness for the flanges. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
" data-setdir=3D"false">Mike MacLean<br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"yahoo_quoted_9803739150" class=3D"yahoo_quoted">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                    On Saturday, September 5, 2020, 11:22:59 AM PDT, Hal Fau=
lkner via Spridgets &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"yiv2032276708"><div dir=3D"ltr">Listerati,<d=
iv>Trying to get off my rear end and make some progress in my long term over=
haul of FROG AYE, my 1960 Frogeye. The engine is now a 20 over 1275 with som=
e porting, oversize valves and VP-SP3 cam. I have replaced the old 3 to one e=
xhaust manifold&nbsp;with a Maniflow LCB, the intake manifold is also by Man=
iflow, for the HS-2 carbs that came with the car.&nbsp; The concern I have i=
s that the flange is thicker on the exhaust than on the intake.&nbsp; Torqui=
ng the manifolds until the exhaust just touches the block (no gasket for thi=
s measurement) leaves the intake manifold with about 35 thousands play.&nbsp=
; Of course, this can be taken up in the gasket, but that leaves the washer o=
n the intake side (of the common studs) sitting at a noticeable angle, which=
 ,if nothing else, doesn't look very cool.&nbsp; The attached photo shows ab=
out .035" of feeler between the washero and the intake manifold flange.&nbsp=
; The exhaust manifold is snug.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>What wo=
uld you do?&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div></div></div>--------------------=
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From: Weslake1330 via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 22:30:55 +0100

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I would contact Maniflow and ask them what the correct thickness is to
establish if the exhaust is incorrect or if the inlet manifold is correct
and then invite them to send a replacement part.  I'd also want to be sure
that something that is claimed to be made by Maniflow really is.

Regards

Daniel S

On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 20:12, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Send it all back to Maniflow and tell them to get their shxt together.  N=
o
> excuse for this kind of BS.  They make both parts and they don't match?
> Ridiculous.
>
> Have you contacted them?
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Sep 5, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> Have the exhaust faces machined down 35 thou.  Being both Maniflo they
> should have matched thicknan.  I have the LCB header (I don't know who
> makes it) on my 1275 and a Titan intake manifold for my single HIF44 carb=
.
> They match perfectly. Supposed to be a standard thickness for the flanges=
.
> Mike MacLean
>
> On Saturday, September 5, 2020, 11:22:59 AM PDT, Hal Faulkner via
> Spridgets <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Listerati,
> Trying to get off my rear end and make some progress in my long term
> overhaul of FROG AYE, my 1960 Frogeye. The engine is now a 20 over 1275
> with some porting, oversize valves and VP-SP3 cam. I have replaced the ol=
d
> 3 to one exhaust manifold with a Maniflow LCB, the intake manifold is als=
o
> by Maniflow, for the HS-2 carbs that came with the car.  The concern I ha=
ve
> is that the flange is thicker on the exhaust than on the intake.  Torquin=
g
> the manifolds until the exhaust just touches the block (no gasket for thi=
s
> measurement) leaves the intake manifold with about 35 thousands play.  Of
> course, this can be taken up in the gasket, but that leaves the washer on
> the intake side (of the common studs) sitting at a noticeable angle, whic=
h
> ,if nothing else, doesn't look very cool.  The attached photo shows about
> .035" of feeler between the washero and the intake manifold flange.  The
> exhaust manifold is snug.
>
> What would you do?
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I would contact Maniflow and ask them what the correct thi=
ckness is to establish if the exhaust is incorrect or if the inlet manifold=
 is correct and then invite them to send a replacement part.=C2=A0 I&#39;d =
also want to be sure that something that is claimed to be made by Maniflow =
really is.<div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Daniel S</di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 20:12, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></di=
v><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Send =
it all back to Maniflow and tell them to get their shxt together.=C2=A0 No =
excuse for this kind of BS.=C2=A0 They make both parts and they don&#39;t m=
atch?=C2=A0 Ridiculous. =C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Have you contacted them?<=
br><div><br></div><div>Rick<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my keyboard</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 5, 2020, at 2:45 =
PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></b=
lockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div st=
yle=3D"font-family:&quot;times new roman&quot;,&quot;new york&quot;,times,s=
erif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Have the exhaust faces machined down 35 thou.=C2=
=A0 Being both Maniflo they should have matched thicknan.=C2=A0 I have the =
LCB header (I don&#39;t know who makes it) on my 1275 and a Titan intake ma=
nifold for my single HIF44 carb.=C2=A0 They match perfectly. Supposed to be=
 a standard thickness for the flanges. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacL=
ean<br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-8959562192658747527yahoo_quoted_980373915=
0">
            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
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                    On Saturday, September 5, 2020, 11:22:59 AM PDT, Hal Fa=
ulkner via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-8959562192658747527yiv2032276708">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Listerati,<div>Trying to get off my rear end and make some=
 progress in my long term overhaul of FROG AYE, my 1960 Frogeye. The engine=
 is now a 20 over 1275 with some porting, oversize valves and VP-SP3 cam. I=
 have replaced the old 3 to one exhaust manifold=C2=A0with a Maniflow LCB, =
the intake manifold is also by Maniflow, for the HS-2 carbs that came with =
the car.=C2=A0 The concern I have is that the flange is thicker on the exha=
ust than on the intake.=C2=A0 Torquing the manifolds until the exhaust just=
 touches the block (no gasket for this measurement) leaves the intake manif=
old with about 35 thousands play.=C2=A0 Of course, this can be taken up in =
the gasket, but that leaves the washer on the intake side (of the common st=
uds) sitting at a noticeable angle, which ,if nothing else, doesn&#39;t loo=
k very cool.=C2=A0 The attached photo shows about .035&quot; of feeler betw=
een the washero and the intake manifold flange.=C2=A0 The exhaust manifold =
is snug.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>What would you do?=C2=A0=C2=
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From: derf via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
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I would carefully grind washers.  Even if both flanges are the correct
thickness you will most likely have gaskets of differing thicknesses.

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 4:31 PM Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> and then invite them to send a replacement part.  I'd also want to be sur=
e
>> Send it all back to Maniflow and tell them to get their shxt together.
>> No excuse for this kind of BS.  They make both parts and they don't matc=
h?
>> makes it) on my 1275 and a Titan intake manifold for my single HIF44 car=
b.
>> They match perfectly. Supposed to be a standard thickness for the flange=
s.
>> with some porting, oversize valves and VP-SP3 cam. I have replaced the o=
ld
>> 3 to one exhaust manifold with a Maniflow LCB, the intake manifold is al=
so
>> by Maniflow, for the HS-2 carbs that came with the car.  The concern I h=
ave
>> is that the flange is thicker on the exhaust than on the intake.  Torqui=
ng
>> the manifolds until the exhaust just touches the block (no gasket for th=
is
>> measurement) leaves the intake manifold with about 35 thousands play.  O=
f
>> course, this can be taken up in the gasket, but that leaves the washer o=
n
>> the intake side (of the common studs) sitting at a noticeable angle, whi=
ch
>> ,if nothing else, doesn't look very cool.  The attached photo shows abou=
t
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I would carefully grind washers.=C2=A0 Even if both flange=
s are the correct thickness you will most likely have gaskets of differing=
=C2=A0thicknesses.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 4:31 PM Weslake1330 vi=
a Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I would contact Maniflow and as=
k them what the correct thickness is to establish if the exhaust is incorre=
ct or if the inlet manifold is correct and then invite them to send a repla=
cement part.=C2=A0 I&#39;d also want to be sure that something that is clai=
med to be made by Maniflow really is.<div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Daniel S</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 20:12, Rick Fisk via Sp=
ridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">s=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Send it all back to Maniflow and t=
ell them to get their shxt together.=C2=A0 No excuse for this kind of BS.=
=C2=A0 They make both parts and they don&#39;t match?=C2=A0 Ridiculous. =C2=
=A0<div><br></div><div>Have you contacted them?<br><div><br></div><div>Rick=
<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my keyboard</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 5, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Michael MacLean via Spr=
idgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">sp=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;ti=
mes new roman&quot;,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div><=
/div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Have the exhaust faces machined down 35 thou.=C2=
=A0 Being both Maniflo they should have matched thicknan.=C2=A0 I have the =
LCB header (I don&#39;t know who makes it) on my 1275 and a Titan intake ma=
nifold for my single HIF44 carb.=C2=A0 They match perfectly. Supposed to be=
 a standard thickness for the flanges. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacL=
ean<br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"gmail-m_8194808682426589770gmail-m_-54283463734916=
54872gmail-m_-8959562192658747527yahoo_quoted_9803739150">
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                    On Saturday, September 5, 2020, 11:22:59 AM PDT, Hal Fa=
ulkner via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_8194808682426589770gmail-m_-5428346=
373491654872gmail-m_-8959562192658747527yiv2032276708"><div dir=3D"ltr">Lis=
terati,<div>Trying to get off my rear end and make some progress in my long=
 term overhaul of FROG AYE, my 1960 Frogeye. The engine is now a 20 over 12=
75 with some porting, oversize valves and VP-SP3 cam. I have replaced the o=
ld 3 to one exhaust manifold=C2=A0with a Maniflow LCB, the intake manifold =
is also by Maniflow, for the HS-2 carbs that came with the car.=C2=A0 The c=
oncern I have is that the flange is thicker on the exhaust than on the inta=
ke.=C2=A0 Torquing the manifolds until the exhaust just touches the block (=
no gasket for this measurement) leaves the intake manifold with about 35 th=
ousands play.=C2=A0 Of course, this can be taken up in the gasket, but that=
 leaves the washer on the intake side (of the common studs) sitting at a no=
ticeable angle, which ,if nothing else, doesn&#39;t look very cool.=C2=A0 T=
he attached photo shows about .035&quot; of feeler between the washero and =
the intake manifold flange.=C2=A0 The exhaust manifold is snug.=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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On the A-series it should be a single gasket that seals both the inlet and
the exhaust ports at the head.

On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 22:37, derf <[email-masked]> wrote:

>> establish if the exhaust is incorrect or if the inlet manifold is correc=
t
>> and then invite them to send a replacement part.  I'd also want to be su=
re
>>> No excuse for this kind of BS.  They make both parts and they don't mat=
ch?
>>> makes it) on my 1275 and a Titan intake manifold for my single HIF44 ca=
rb.
>>> They match perfectly. Supposed to be a standard thickness for the flang=
es.
>>> with some porting, oversize valves and VP-SP3 cam. I have replaced the =
old
>>> 3 to one exhaust manifold with a Maniflow LCB, the intake manifold is a=
lso
>>> by Maniflow, for the HS-2 carbs that came with the car.  The concern I =
have
>>> is that the flange is thicker on the exhaust than on the intake.  Torqu=
ing
>>> the manifolds until the exhaust just touches the block (no gasket for t=
his
>>> measurement) leaves the intake manifold with about 35 thousands play.  =
Of
>>> course, this can be taken up in the gasket, but that leaves the washer =
on
>>> the intake side (of the common studs) sitting at a noticeable angle, wh=
ich
>>> ,if nothing else, doesn't look very cool.  The attached photo shows abo=
ut
>>> .035" of feeler between the washero and the intake manifold flange.  Th=
e
>>> exhaust manifold is snug.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On the A-series it should be a single gasket that seals bo=
th the inlet and the exhaust ports at the head.</div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 22:37,=
 derf &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">I would carefully grind washers.=C2=A0 Even if both flanges are the c=
orrect thickness you will most likely have gaskets of differing=C2=A0thickn=
esses.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 4:31 PM Weslake1330 via Spridgets =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">spridgets=
@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I would contact Maniflow and ask them what =
the correct thickness is to establish if the exhaust is incorrect or if the=
 inlet manifold is correct and then invite them to send a replacement part.=
=C2=A0 I&#39;d also want to be sure that something that is claimed to be ma=
de by Maniflow really is.<div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Daniel S</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 20:12, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Send it all back to Maniflow and tell them to =
get their shxt together.=C2=A0 No excuse for this kind of BS.=C2=A0 They ma=
ke both parts and they don&#39;t match?=C2=A0 Ridiculous. =C2=A0<div><br></=
div><div>Have you contacted them?<br><div><br></div><div>Rick<br><br><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Sent from my keyboard</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=
=3D"cite">On Sep 5, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;times new roman&=
quot;,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Have the exhaust faces machined down 35 thou.=C2=
=A0 Being both Maniflo they should have matched thicknan.=C2=A0 I have the =
LCB header (I don&#39;t know who makes it) on my 1275 and a Titan intake ma=
nifold for my single HIF44 carb.=C2=A0 They match perfectly. Supposed to be=
 a standard thickness for the flanges. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacL=
ean<br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"gmail-m_2882220137707801936gmail-m_819480868242658=
9770gmail-m_-5428346373491654872gmail-m_-8959562192658747527yahoo_quoted_98=
03739150">
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               =20
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                    On Saturday, September 5, 2020, 11:22:59 AM PDT, Hal Fa=
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                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_2882220137707801936gmail-m_81948086=
82426589770gmail-m_-5428346373491654872gmail-m_-8959562192658747527yiv20322=
76708"><div dir=3D"ltr">Listerati,<div>Trying to get off my rear end and ma=
ke some progress in my long term overhaul of FROG AYE, my 1960 Frogeye. The=
 engine is now a 20 over 1275 with some porting, oversize valves and VP-SP3=
 cam. I have replaced the old 3 to one exhaust manifold=C2=A0with a Maniflo=
w LCB, the intake manifold is also by Maniflow, for the HS-2 carbs that cam=
e with the car.=C2=A0 The concern I have is that the flange is thicker on t=
he exhaust than on the intake.=C2=A0 Torquing the manifolds until the exhau=
st just touches the block (no gasket for this measurement) leaves the intak=
e manifold with about 35 thousands play.=C2=A0 Of course, this can be taken=
 up in the gasket, but that leaves the washer on the intake side (of the co=
mmon studs) sitting at a noticeable angle, which ,if nothing else, doesn&#3=
9;t look very cool.=C2=A0 The attached photo shows about .035&quot; of feel=
er between the washero and the intake manifold flange.=C2=A0 The exhaust ma=
nifold is snug.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>What would you do?=C2=
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I sit corrected.  It's been a while since I had a manifold off.  Seems like
my Titan single HIF6 intake had a separate gasked, though.

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 4:39 PM Weslake1330 <[email-masked]> wrote:

> On the A-series it should be a single gasket that seals both the inlet an=
d
>>> establish if the exhaust is incorrect or if the inlet manifold is corre=
ct
>>> and then invite them to send a replacement part.  I'd also want to be s=
ure
>>>> No excuse for this kind of BS.  They make both parts and they don't ma=
tch?
>>>> makes it) on my 1275 and a Titan intake manifold for my single HIF44 c=
arb.
>>>> They match perfectly. Supposed to be a standard thickness for the flan=
ges.
>>>> overhaul of FROG AYE, my 1960 Frogeye. The engine is now a 20 over 127=
5
>>>> with some porting, oversize valves and VP-SP3 cam. I have replaced the=
 old
>>>> 3 to one exhaust manifold with a Maniflow LCB, the intake manifold is =
also
>>>> by Maniflow, for the HS-2 carbs that came with the car.  The concern I=
 have
>>>> is that the flange is thicker on the exhaust than on the intake.  Torq=
uing
>>>> the manifolds until the exhaust just touches the block (no gasket for =
this
 Of
>>>> course, this can be taken up in the gasket, but that leaves the washer=
 on
>>>> the intake side (of the common studs) sitting at a noticeable angle, w=
hich
>>>> ,if nothing else, doesn't look very cool.  The attached photo shows ab=
out
>>>> .035" of feeler between the washero and the intake manifold flange.  T=
he
>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/[email-masked]=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I sit corrected.=C2=A0 It&#39;s been a while since I had a=
 manifold off.=C2=A0 Seems like my=C2=A0Titan single HIF6 intake had a sepa=
rate gasked, though.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 4:39 PM Weslake1330 =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On the A-series it should be a single gasket that seals both the i=
nlet and the exhaust ports at the head.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 22:37, derf &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">I would carefully grind washers.=C2=A0 Even if both flanges=
 are the correct thickness you will most likely have gaskets of differing=
=C2=A0thicknesses.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 4:31 PM Weslake1330 vi=
a Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I would contact Maniflow and as=
k them what the correct thickness is to establish if the exhaust is incorre=
ct or if the inlet manifold is correct and then invite them to send a repla=
cement part.=C2=A0 I&#39;d also want to be sure that something that is clai=
med to be made by Maniflow really is.<div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Daniel S</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 20:12, Rick Fisk via Sp=
ridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">s=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Send it all back to Maniflow and t=
ell them to get their shxt together.=C2=A0 No excuse for this kind of BS.=
=C2=A0 They make both parts and they don&#39;t match?=C2=A0 Ridiculous. =C2=
=A0<div><br></div><div>Have you contacted them?<br><div><br></div><div>Rick=
<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my keyboard</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 5, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Michael MacLean via Spr=
idgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">sp=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;ti=
mes new roman&quot;,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div><=
/div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Have the exhaust faces machined down 35 thou.=C2=
=A0 Being both Maniflo they should have matched thicknan.=C2=A0 I have the =
LCB header (I don&#39;t know who makes it) on my 1275 and a Titan intake ma=
nifold for my single HIF44 carb.=C2=A0 They match perfectly. Supposed to be=
 a standard thickness for the flanges. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacL=
ean<br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"gmail-m_1978463200746051271gmail-m_288222013770780=
1936gmail-m_8194808682426589770gmail-m_-5428346373491654872gmail-m_-8959562=
192658747527yahoo_quoted_9803739150">
            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Saturday, September 5, 2020, 11:22:59 AM PDT, Hal Fa=
ulkner via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_1978463200746051271gmail-m_28822201=
37707801936gmail-m_8194808682426589770gmail-m_-5428346373491654872gmail-m_-=
8959562192658747527yiv2032276708"><div dir=3D"ltr">Listerati,<div>Trying to=
 get off my rear end and make some progress in my long term overhaul of FRO=
G AYE, my 1960 Frogeye. The engine is now a 20 over 1275 with some porting,=
 oversize valves and VP-SP3 cam. I have replaced the old 3 to one exhaust m=
anifold=C2=A0with a Maniflow LCB, the intake manifold is also by Maniflow, =
for the HS-2 carbs that came with the car.=C2=A0 The concern I have is that=
 the flange is thicker on the exhaust than on the intake.=C2=A0 Torquing th=
e manifolds until the exhaust just touches the block (no gasket for this me=
asurement) leaves the intake manifold with about 35 thousands play.=C2=A0 O=
f course, this can be taken up in the gasket, but that leaves the washer on=
 the intake side (of the common studs) sitting at a noticeable angle, which=
 ,if nothing else, doesn&#39;t look very cool.=C2=A0 The attached photo sho=
ws about .035&quot; of feeler between the washero and the intake manifold f=
lange.=C2=A0 The exhaust manifold is snug.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div>=
<div>What would you do?=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div></div></div>-------=
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