Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Won't Run

From: daredelvis--- via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 21:58:04 -0700

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Dirty or stuck needle would be my guess.=20

Brian

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 9:46 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@auto=
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> I am honing in on the problem of my Bugeye refusing to run more than a flo=
at bowl worth of fuel at a time.  I have a 1275 punched out to 1330 and fuel=
 it with a single HIF44 S.U. carb.  The problem I am now having is the Facet=
 electric pump running furiously like no fuel is running through it, which i=
t is not.  Tonight I removed the fuel line from the carb end and stuck it in=
 a jar.  I turned the key to energize the fuel pump and it started to cavita=
te and run furiously as before, but in a few seconds it bogged down just lik=
e it does when the float bowl is full and the jar started to fill up!  The f=
loat bowl vent is open and the fuel inlet hose is connected to the correct i=
nlet pipe.  I have had this carb apart three times and found no obstructions=
 anywhere.  What could be plugging up the float bowl chamber vent stopping g=
as from entering the carb?  As you can see in the picture, the connections a=
re correct as they have been all along. Any ideas?
> Mike MacLean
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Dirty or stuck needle woul=
d be my guess.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Brian<=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 21, 2020, at 9:46=
 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<b=
r><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF=
<div class=3D"ydpa862449yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:times new rom=
an, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"=
false">I am honing in on the problem of my Bugeye refusing to run more than a=
 float bowl worth of fuel at a time.&nbsp; I have a 1275 punched out to 1330=
 and fuel it with a single HIF44 S.U. carb.&nbsp; The problem I am now havin=
g is the Facet electric pump running furiously like no fuel is running throu=
gh it, which it is not.&nbsp; Tonight I removed the fuel line from the carb e=
nd and stuck it in a jar.&nbsp; I turned the key to energize the fuel pump a=
nd it started to cavitate and run furiously as before, but in a few seconds i=
t bogged down just like it does when the float bowl is full and the jar star=
ted to fill up!&nbsp; The float bowl vent is open and the fuel inlet hose is=
 connected to the correct inlet pipe.&nbsp; I have had this carb apart three=
 times and found no obstructions anywhere.&nbsp; What could be plugging up t=
he float bowl chamber vent stopping gas from entering the carb?&nbsp; As you=
 can see in the picture, the connections are correct as they have been all a=
long. Any ideas?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Mike MacLean<br=
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From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 05:27:35 +0000 (UTC)

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 Had it all apart including the needle and seat.=C2=A0 Clean and moves free=
ly.Mike

    On Tuesday, July 21, 2020, 9:58:08 PM PDT, <[email-masked]> wrote=
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 Dirty or stuck needle would be my guess.=C2=A0
Brian

On Jul 21, 2020, at 9:46 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@autox=
.team.net> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFI am honing in on the problem of my Bugeye refusing to run more th=
an a float bowl worth of fuel at a time.=C2=A0 I have a 1275 punched out to=
 1330 and fuel it with a single HIF44 S.U. carb.=C2=A0 The problem I am now=
 having is the Facet electric pump running furiously like no fuel is runnin=
g through it, which it is not.=C2=A0 Tonight I removed the fuel line from t=
he carb end and stuck it in a jar.=C2=A0 I turned the key to energize the f=
uel pump and it started to cavitate and run furiously as before, but in a f=
ew seconds it bogged down just like it does when the float bowl is full and=
 the jar started to fill up!=C2=A0 The float bowl vent is open and the fuel=
 inlet hose is connected to the correct inlet pipe.=C2=A0 I have had this c=
arb apart three times and found no obstructions anywhere.=C2=A0 What could =
be plugging up the float bowl chamber vent stopping gas from entering the c=
arb?=C2=A0 As you can see in the picture, the connections are correct as th=
ey have been all along. Any ideas?Mike MacLean
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or stuck needle would be my guess.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Brian</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"yiv=
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 21, 2020, at 9:46 PM, Michael MacLean via =
Spridgets &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></blockquote></div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div class=3D"yiv9643617798yqt4099343844" id=3D"yiv9643617798yqtfd7267=
5">=EF=BB=BF</div><div class=3D"yiv9643617798ydpa862449yahoo-style-wrap" st=
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><div class=3D"yiv9643617798yqt4099343844" id=3D"yiv9643617798yqtfd13084"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">I am honing in on the problem of my Bugeye refusing to run =
more than a float bowl worth of fuel at a time.&nbsp; I have a 1275 punched=
 out to 1330 and fuel it with a single HIF44 S.U. carb.&nbsp; The problem I=
 am now having is the Facet electric pump running furiously like no fuel is=
 running through it, which it is not.&nbsp; Tonight I removed the fuel line=
 from the carb end and stuck it in a jar.&nbsp; I turned the key to energiz=
e the fuel pump and it started to cavitate and run furiously as before, but=
 in a few seconds it bogged down just like it does when the float bowl is f=
ull and the jar started to fill up!&nbsp; The float bowl vent is open and t=
he fuel inlet hose is connected to the correct inlet pipe.&nbsp; I have had=
 this carb apart three times and found no obstructions anywhere.&nbsp; What=
 could be plugging up the float bowl chamber vent stopping gas from enterin=
g the carb?&nbsp; As you can see in the picture, the connections are correc=
t as they have been all along. Any ideas?</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 07:36:05 -0400 (EDT)

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So the pump stops running seems to be your problem. Is your pump puling from the tank or pushing to the carb? Try moving the pump closer to the tank and running it if it still works its a problem with the carb or the hard fuel line from the tank forward. If not its a problem with the pump.
Ryan

>     On 07/22/2020 1:27 AM Michael MacLean via Spridgets <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>     Had it all apart including the needle and seat.  Clean and moves freely.
>     Mike
> 
>     On Tuesday, July 21, 2020, 9:58:08 PM PDT, <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>     Dirty or stuck needle would be my guess. 
> 
>     Brian
> 
> 
>         > > On Jul 21, 2020, at 9:46 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <[email-masked]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
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>         > > 
> >         I am honing in on the problem of my Bugeye refusing to run more than a float bowl worth of fuel at a time.  I have a 1275 punched out to 1330 and fuel it with a single HIF44 S.U. carb.  The problem I am now having is the Facet electric pump running furiously like no fuel is running through it, which it is not.  Tonight I removed the fuel line from the carb end and stuck it in a jar.  I turned the key to energize the fuel pump and it started to cavitate and run furiously as before, but in a few seconds it bogged down just like it does when the float bowl is full and the jar started to fill up!  The float bowl vent is open and the fuel inlet hose is connected to the correct inlet pipe.  I have had this carb apart three times and found no obstructions anywhere.  What could be plugging up the float bowl chamber vent stopping gas from entering the carb?  As you can see in the picture, the connections are correct as they have been all along. Any ideas?
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">So the pump sto=
ps running seems to be your problem. Is your pump puling from the tank or p=
ushing to the carb? Try moving the pump closer to the tank and running it i=
f it still works its a problem with the carb or the hard fuel line from the=
 tank forward. If not its a problem with the pump.</span>
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         Dirty or stuck needle would be my guess.&nbsp;
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             I am honing in on the problem of my Bugeye refusing to run mor=
e than a float bowl worth of fuel at a time.&nbsp; I have a 1275 punched ou=
t to 1330 and fuel it with a single HIF44 S.U. carb.&nbsp; The problem I am=
 now having is the Facet electric pump running furiously like no fuel is ru=
nning through it, which it is not.&nbsp; Tonight I removed the fuel line fr=
om the carb end and stuck it in a jar.&nbsp; I turned the key to energize t=
he fuel pump and it started to cavitate and run furiously as before, but in=
 a few seconds it bogged down just like it does when the float bowl is full=
 and the jar started to fill up!&nbsp; The float bowl vent is open and the =
fuel inlet hose is connected to the correct inlet pipe.&nbsp; I have had th=
is carb apart three times and found no obstructions anywhere.&nbsp; What co=
uld be plugging up the float bowl chamber vent stopping gas from entering t=
he carb?&nbsp; As you can see in the picture, the connections are correct a=
s they have been all along. Any ideas?
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Pull the hose again, let it fill the jar about halfway and then pinch the
hose off to stop the flow.  Release the pinch.  Does it start to flow again?
Your pump may be bypassing after it sees the first stoppage and may not be
recovering back to normal pumping.
After the jar fills you can try removing the hose at the tank end,
reversing the pump, and back flushing it.
You may possibly have a hose collapsing before the pump.
Try a different pump.

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> So the pump stops running seems to be your problem. Is your pump puling
> from the tank or pushing to the carb? Try moving the pump closer to the
> tank and running it if it still works its a problem with the carb or the
> hard fuel line from the tank forward. If not its a problem with the pump.
> Ryan
>
> I am honing in on the problem of my Bugeye refusing to run more than a
> float bowl worth of fuel at a time.  I have a 1275 punched out to 1330 and
> fuel it with a single HIF44 S.U. carb.  The problem I am now having is the
> Facet electric pump running furiously like no fuel is running through it,
> which it is not.  Tonight I removed the fuel line from the carb end and
> stuck it in a jar.  I turned the key to energize the fuel pump and it
> started to cavitate and run furiously as before, but in a few seconds it
> bogged down just like it does when the float bowl is full and the jar
> started to fill up!  The float bowl vent is open and the fuel inlet hose is
> connected to the correct inlet pipe.  I have had this carb apart three
> times and found no obstructions anywhere.  What could be plugging up the
> float bowl chamber vent stopping gas from entering the carb?  As you can
> see in the picture, the connections are correct as they have been all
> along. Any ideas?
> Mike MacLean
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Pull the hose again, let it fill the jar about halfway and=
 then pinch the hose off to stop the flow.=C2=A0 Release the pinch.=C2=A0 D=
oes it start to flow again?<br>Your pump may be bypassing after it sees the=
 first stoppage and may not be recovering back to=C2=A0normal pumping.<div>=
After the jar fills you can try removing the hose at the tank end, reversin=
g the pump, and back flushing=C2=A0it.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div>You may possibly hav=
e a hose collapsing before the pump.=C2=A0</div><div>Try a different pump.=
=C2=A0=C2=A0</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 6:36 AM Ryan Kubanoff via S=
pridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
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   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">So the pump stops r=
unning seems to be your problem. Is your pump puling from the tank or pushi=
ng to the carb? Try moving the pump closer to the tank and running it if it=
 still works its a problem with the carb or the hard fuel line from the tan=
k forward. If not its a problem with the pump.</span>
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     Had it all apart including the needle and seat.=C2=A0 Clean and moves =
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         Dirty or stuck needle would be my guess.=C2=A0
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             I am honing in on the problem of my Bugeye refusing to run mor=
e than a float bowl worth of fuel at a time.=C2=A0 I have a 1275 punched ou=
t to 1330 and fuel it with a single HIF44 S.U. carb.=C2=A0 The problem I am=
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nning through it, which it is not.=C2=A0 Tonight I removed the fuel line fr=
om the carb end and stuck it in a jar.=C2=A0 I turned the key to energize t=
he fuel pump and it started to cavitate and run furiously as before, but in=
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 and the jar started to fill up!=C2=A0 The float bowl vent is open and the =
fuel inlet hose is connected to the correct inlet pipe.=C2=A0 I have had th=
is carb apart three times and found no obstructions anywhere.=C2=A0 What co=
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he carb?=C2=A0 As you can see in the picture, the connections are correct a=
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