Subject: Re: [Spridgets] My car didn't start either - different reason.

From: crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2020 13:15:12 -0400

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Alleged vapor lock?Try the pump overheated?  Why venture this guess?   My old tow vehicle was 79 Chevy van the "L.B.1" ( Lust Bus 1). For what ever reason the mechanical fuel pump failed a number of times at the most inconvenient time!   To fix this I installed an AC Marine type tick-tick pump inline.   What I experienced with this set up was while towing the race trailer in the Florida keys the electric pump overheated!   The electromagnetic coil got so hot , it did not properly do it's tick-tick with the gusto the designers intended.   The pump was getting hot.  No not excessive resistance , ambient temperature combined with the pumps "working " temperature. Replacing the pump with a new one proved that.   What I am suspecting is your pump got hot and decided electrically to stop pumping.  In a vapor lock state an electric pump should stay pumping against a vapor lock yielding the pump sounding like the pump after it starts up and then builds pressure and the pump starts running against the built up pressure.  Even my tick-tick pump ran.ChuckJust a thought on what or why?Sent from my LG Mobile------ Original message------From: Tim Collins via SpridgetsDate: Sat, Jul 4, 2020 8:40 AMTo: Spridgets;Cc: Subject:[Spridgets] My car didn't start either - different reason.Hi guys,Vapor LockI was out for a ride yesterday in my 1966 Sprite to view damage caused by the failure of two dams in my community. This meant driving through subdivisions at low speed. Also, I stopped for about 10 minutes (engine off) to talk to an acquaintance about damage to his home. I had a little trouble restarting the car, but it did start. On the way home I stalled the engine at a stop light on a 4 lane artery (with center turn lane) and it wouldn't restart. Fortunately, traffic was light and I had an opportunity to push the car into the service drive of a strip mall. There happened to be a tree/shade at the entrance so I stopped there and opened the hood and waited for the car to cool. (I suspected vapor lock.)The (new) fuel pump (Airtex E88016E) wasn't "tick - ticking", but I attributed that to the plunger not being able to trigger the electronics because of the fuel lock. I reminded myself that banging on the pump wouldn't work because there are no mechanical points in this pump. The air temp was near 90 deg. and I was parked on an asphalt lot - it was hot! I found my way home with the help of a good Samaritan. (I'm one of the last people in the world not to own a cell phone) Several hours later I went back with my wife - the Sprite still wouldn't start. I called a flatbed tow truck ($70 - about a 3 mile haul ) and got the car home. At home I turned the key and heard the familiar tick, tick. Shortly thereafter, I tried starting the car. After a few tries things got cleared out and it started. TroubleshootingThe fuel in the tank is from last Fall (could have been a Winter blend) Shell V-Power NiTRO+ Premium. Probably too volatile for this heat. A fill up with Summer blend should help greatly. This is my #1 suspect for the cause of the problem.I suspect that the vapor lock occurred either: 1) in the fuel bowls, 2) or in the fuel filter (WIX 33031, metal can type), 3) or in the fuel line connecting the carbs (low chance) 4) or some combination of these. The fuel pump is in a "cool" (factory) location so not a suspect. Fuel lines from the tank to carbs are in factory locations - away from the exhaust pipe.The fuel filter is about the size of the float bowl on the SU carbs. I'm wondering if the size is too large thus allowing heat soak while the fuel spends too much time in the filter? What do you think?I should have walked to the grocery store in the strip mall and bought a gallon of water to try and cool the float bowls and fuel filter. Anyone had any success doing this?Your thoughts??ps: Someone stopped and said I needed a clothes pin on the fuel line. Evidently some people believe in that as a fix. I can't imagine any science behind doing that.

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    <div style="font-size: 10pt;"><div dir="auto">Alleged vapor lock?</div><div dir="auto">Try the pump overheated?&nbsp; Why venture this guess?&nbsp; &nbsp;My old tow vehicle was 79 Chevy van the "L.B.1" ( Lust Bus 1). For what ever reason the mechanical fuel pump failed a number of times at the most inconvenient time!&nbsp; &nbsp;To fix this I installed an AC Marine type tick-tick pump inline.&nbsp; &nbsp;What I experienced with this set up was while towing the race trailer in the Florida keys the electric pump overheated!&nbsp; &nbsp;The electromagnetic coil got so hot , it did not properly do it's tick-tick with the gusto the designers intended.&nbsp; &nbsp;The pump was getting hot.&nbsp; No not excessive resistance , ambient temperature combined with the pumps "working " temperature. Replacing the pump with a new one proved that.&nbsp; &nbsp;</div><div dir="auto">What I am suspecting is your pump got hot and decided electrically to stop pumping.&nbsp; In a vapor lock state an electric pump should stay pumping against a vapor lock yielding the pump sounding like the pump after it starts up and then builds pressure and the pump starts running against the built up pressure.&nbsp; Even my tick-tick pump ran.</div><div dir="auto">Chuck</div><div dir="auto">Just a thought on what or why?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:9pt;"><i>Sent from my LG Mobile</i></div></div></div><div style="font-size: 10pt;"><div id="LGEmailHeader" dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">------ Original message------</div><div dir="auto"><b>From: </b>Tim Collins via Spridgets<[email-masked]></[email-masked]></div><div dir="auto"><b>Date: </b>Sat, Jul 4, 2020 8:40 AM</div><div dir="auto"><b>To: </b>Spridgets;</div><div dir="auto"><b>Cc: </b></div><div dir="auto"><b>Subject:</b>[Spridgets] My car didn't start either - different reason.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Hi guys,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Vapor Lock<br>I was out for a ride yesterday in my 1966 Sprite to view damage caused by the failure of two dams in my community. This meant driving through subdivisions at low speed. Also, I stopped for about 10 minutes (engine off) to talk to an acquaintance about damage to his home. I had a little trouble restarting the car, but it did start. <br><br>On the way home I stalled the engine at a stop light on a 4 lane artery (with center turn lane) and it wouldn't restart. Fortunately, traffic was light and I had an opportunity to push the car into the service drive of a strip mall. There happened to be a tree/shade at the entrance so I stopped there and opened the hood and waited for the car to cool. (I suspected vapor lock.)<br><br>The (new) fuel pump (Airtex E88016E) wasn't "tick - ticking", but I attributed that to the plunger not being able to trigger the electronics because of the fuel lock. I reminded myself that banging on the pump wouldn't work because there are no mechanical points in this pump. <br><br>The air temp was near 90 deg. and I was parked on an asphalt lot - it was hot! I found my way home with the help of a good Samaritan. (I'm one of the last people in the world not to own a cell phone) Several hours later I went back with my wife - the Sprite still wouldn't start. I called a flatbed tow truck ($70 - about a 3 mile haul ) and got the car home. At home I turned the key and heard the familiar tick, tick. Shortly thereafter, I tried starting the car. After a few tries things got cleared out and it started. <br><br>Troubleshooting<br>The fuel in the tank is from last Fall (could have been a Winter blend) Shell V-Power NiTRO+ Premium. Probably too volatile for this heat. A fill up with Summer blend should help greatly. This is my #1 suspect for the cause of the problem.<br><br>I suspect that the vapor lock occurred either: 1) in the fuel bowls, 2) or in the fuel filter (WIX 33031, metal can type), 3) or in the fuel line connecting the carbs (low chance) 4) or some combination of these. The fuel pump is in a "cool" (factory) location so not a suspect. Fuel lines from the tank to carbs are in factory locations - away from the exhaust pipe.<br><br>The fuel filter is about the size of the float bowl on the SU carbs. I'm wondering if the size is too large thus allowing heat soak while the fuel spends too much time in the filter? What do you think?<br><br>I should have walked to the grocery store in the strip mall and bought a gallon of water to try and cool the float bowls and fuel filter. Anyone had any success doing this?<br><br>Your thoughts??</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">ps: Someone stopped and said I needed a clothes pin on the fuel line. Evidently some people believe in that as a fix. I can't imagine any science behind doing that.<br><br><br><br><br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div></div>
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From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
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I agree Chuck, I think it=E2=80=99s a flakey pump problem.

Rick

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2020, at 1:15 PM, crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <spridgets@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Alleged vapor lock?
> Try the pump overheated?  Why venture this guess?   My old tow vehicle was=
 79 Chevy van the "L.B.1" ( Lust Bus 1). For what ever reason the mechanical=
 fuel pump failed a number of times at the most inconvenient time!   To fix t=
his I installed an AC Marine type tick-tick pump inline.   What I experience=
d with this set up was while towing the race trailer in the Florida keys the=
 electric pump overheated!   The electromagnetic coil got so hot , it did no=
t properly do it's tick-tick with the gusto the designers intended.   The pu=
mp was getting hot.  No not excessive resistance , ambient temperature combi=
ned with the pumps "working " temperature. Replacing the pump with a new one=
 proved that.  =20
> What I am suspecting is your pump got hot and decided electrically to stop=
 pumping.  In a vapor lock state an e lectric pump should stay pumping again=
st a vapor lock yielding the pump sounding like the pump after it starts up a=
nd then builds pressure and the pump starts running against the built up pre=
ssure.  Even my tick-tick pump ran.
> Chuck
> Just a thought on what or why?
>=20
>=20
> Sent from my LG Mobile
>=20
> ------ Original message------
> From: Tim Collins via Spridgets
> Date: Sat, Jul 4, 2020 8:40 AM
> To: Spridgets;
> Cc:
> Subject:[Spridgets] My car didn't start either - different reason.
>=20
> Hi guys,
> Vapor Lock
> I was out for a ride yesterday in my 1966 Sprite to view damage caused by t=
he failure of two dams in my community. This meant driving through subdivisi=
ons at low speed. Also, I stopped for about 10 minutes (engine off) to talk t=
o an acquaintance about damage to his home. I had a little trouble restartin=
g the car, but it did start.=20
>=20
> On the way home I stalled the engine at a stop light on a 4 lane artery (w=
ith center turn lane) and it wouldn't restart. Fortunately, traffic was ligh=
t and I had an opportunity to push the car into the service drive of a strip=
 mall. There happened to be a tree/shade at the entrance so I stopped there a=
nd opened the hood and waited for the car to cool. (I suspected vapor lock.)=

>=20
> The (new) fuel pump (Airtex E88016E) wasn't "tick - ticking", but I attrib=
uted that to the plunger not being able to trigger the electronics beca use o=
f the fuel lock. I reminded myself that banging on the pump wouldn't work be=
cause there are no mechanical points in this pump.=20
>=20
> The air temp was near 90 deg. and I was parked on an asphalt lot - it was h=
ot! I found my way home with the help of a good Samaritan. (I'm one of the l=
ast people in the world not to own a cell phone) Several hours later I went b=
ack with my wife - the Sprite still wouldn't start. I called a flatbed tow t=
ruck ($70 - about a 3 mile haul ) and got the car home. At home I turned the=
 key and heard the familiar tick, tick. Shortly thereafter, I tried starting=
 the car. After a few tries things got cleared out and it started.=20
>=20
> Troubleshooting
> The fuel in the tank is from last Fall (could have been a Winter blend) Sh=
ell V-Power NiTRO+ Premium. Probably too volatile for this heat. A fill up w=
ith Summer blend should help greatly. This is my #1 suspect for the cause of=
 the problem.
>=20
> I suspect that the vapor lock occurred either: 1) in the fue l bowls, 2) o=
r in the fuel filter (WIX 33031, metal can type), 3) or in the fuel line con=
necting the carbs (low chance) 4) or some combination of these. The fuel pum=
p is in a "cool" (factory) location so not a suspect. Fuel lines from the ta=
nk to carbs are in factory locations - away from the exhaust pipe.
>=20
> The fuel filter is about the size of the float bowl on the SU carbs. I'm w=
ondering if the size is too large thus allowing heat soak while the fuel spe=
nds too much time in the filter? What do you think?
>=20
> I should have walked to the grocery store in the strip mall and bought a g=
allon of water to try and cool the float bowls and fuel filter. Anyone had a=
ny success doing this?
>=20
> Your thoughts??
>=20
> ps: Someone stopped and said I needed a clothes pin on the fuel line. Evid=
ently some people believe in that as a fix. I can't imagine any science behi=
nd doing t hat.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I agree Chuck, I think it=E2=80=99s a flake=
y pump problem.<div><br></div><div>Rick<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my=
 iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 4, 2020, a=
t 1:15 PM, crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets &lt;[email-masked]&gt;=
 wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>=EF=BB=BF

    <div style=3D"font-size: 10pt;"><div dir=3D"auto">Alleged vapor lock?</d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto">Try the pump overheated?&nbsp; Why venture this guess?&=
nbsp; &nbsp;My old tow vehicle was 79 Chevy van the "L.B.1" ( Lust Bus 1). Fo=
r what ever reason the mechanical fuel pump failed a number of times at the m=
ost inconvenient time!&nbsp; &nbsp;To fix this I installed an AC Marine type=
 tick-tick pump inline.&nbsp; &nbsp;What I experienced with this set up was w=
hile towing the race trailer in the Florida keys the electric pump overheate=
d!&nbsp; &nbsp;The electromagnetic coil got so hot , it did not properly do i=
t's tick-tick with the gusto the designers intended.&nbsp; &nbsp;The pump wa=
s getting hot.&nbsp; No not excessive resistance , ambient temperature combi=
ned with the pumps "working " temperature. Replacing the pump with a new one=
 proved that.&nbsp; &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto">What I am suspecting is yo=
ur pump got hot and decided electrically to stop pumping.&nbsp; In a vapor l=
ock state an e
 lectric pump should stay pumping against a vapor lock yielding the pump sou=
nding like the pump after it starts up and then builds pressure and the pump=
 starts running against the built up pressure.&nbsp; Even my tick-tick pump r=
an.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Chuck</div><div dir=3D"auto">Just a thought on wh=
at or why?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div=
><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-size:9pt;"><i>Sent from my LG Mobile</i></d=
iv></div></div><div style=3D"font-size: 10pt;"><div id=3D"LGEmailHeader" dir=
=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">------ Original mess=
age------</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>From: </b>Tim Collins via Spridgets<spri=
[email-masked]></[email-masked]></div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>D=
ate: </b>Sat, Jul 4, 2020 8:40 AM</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>To: </b>Spridget=
s;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>Cc: </b></div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>Subject:</b>=
[Spridgets] My car didn't start either - different reason.</div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div c=3D"" lass=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-size:large">Hi guys,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-size:large">Vapor Lock<br>I was out for a ride yesterday in my 1966 Spr=
ite to view damage caused by the failure of two dams in my community. This m=
eant driving through subdivisions at low speed. Also, I stopped for about 10=
 minutes (engine off) to talk to an acquaintance about damage to his home. I=
 had a little trouble restarting the car, but it did start. <br><br>On the w=
ay home I stalled the engine at a stop light on a 4 lane artery (with center=
 turn lane) and it wouldn't restart. Fortunately, traffic was light and I ha=
d an opportunity to push the car into the service drive of a strip mall. The=
re happened to be a tree/shade at the entrance so I stopped there and opened=
 the hood and waited for the car to cool. (I suspected vapor lock.)<br><br>T=
he (new) fuel pump (Airtex E88016E) wasn't "tick - ticking", but I attribute=
d that to the plunger not being able to trigger the electronics beca
 use of the fuel lock. I reminded myself that banging on the pump wouldn't w=
ork because there are no mechanical points in this pump. <br><br>The air tem=
p was near 90 deg. and I was parked on an asphalt lot - it was hot! I found m=
y way home with the help of a good Samaritan. (I'm one of the last people in=
 the world not to own a cell phone) Several hours later I went back with my w=
ife - the Sprite still wouldn't start. I called a flatbed tow truck ($70 - a=
bout a 3 mile haul ) and got the car home. At home I turned the key and hear=
d the familiar tick, tick. Shortly thereafter, I tried starting the car. Aft=
er a few tries things got cleared out and it started. <br><br>Troubleshootin=
g<br>The fuel in the tank is from last Fall (could have been a Winter blend)=
 Shell V-Power NiTRO+ Premium. Probably too volatile for this heat. A fill u=
p with Summer blend should help greatly. This is my #1 suspect for the cause=
 of the problem.<br><br>I suspect that the vapor lock occurred either: 1) in=
 the fue
 l bowls, 2) or in the fuel filter (WIX 33031, metal can type), 3) or in the=
 fuel line connecting the carbs (low chance) 4) or some combination of these=
. The fuel pump is in a "cool" (factory) location so not a suspect. Fuel lin=
es from the tank to carbs are in factory locations - away from the exhaust p=
ipe.<br><br>The fuel filter is about the size of the float bowl on the SU ca=
rbs. I'm wondering if the size is too large thus allowing heat soak while th=
e fuel spends too much time in the filter? What do you think?<br><br>I shoul=
d have walked to the grocery store in the strip mall and bought a gallon of w=
ater to try and cool the float bowls and fuel filter. Anyone had any success=
 doing this?<br><br>Your thoughts??</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:=
large">ps: Someone stopped and said I needed a clothes pin on the fuel line.=
 Evidently some people believe in that as a fix. I can't imagine any science=
 behind doing t
 hat.<br><br><br><br><br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-size:large"><br></div></div>
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I'd like to pick up on what Chuck stated here:
..."In a vapor lock state an electric pump should stay pumping against a va=
por lock yielding the pump sounding like the pump after it starts up and th=
en builds pressure and the pump starts running against the built up pressur=
e'...
Although I have never experienced this on my Mini, I have on the Moke and t=
he Bugeye, I have noticed it when crawling along in stop & go traffic or si=
milar type conditions. The cars continue to run fine but, it sounds as if I=
 am running out of fuel, and it always causes me to immediately check the f=
uel gauge.
=C2=A0All of my cars run an electronic pump in the original factory locatio=
ns. I have one fuel filter between the tank and the pump and another one up=
 front before the carbs.
 So, the question: if this is truly vapor lock, what do we do to eliminate =
it?
Howard
So what we we experiencing here is the pump pump pushing against a vapor lo=
ck situation?=20
In a message dated 7/4/2020 1:15:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net writes:

In a vapor lock state an e lectric pump should stay pumping against a vapor=
 lock yielding the pump sounding like the pump after it starts up and then =
builds pressure and the pump starts running against the built up pressure.=
=C2=A0 Even my tick-tick pump ran.

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<div class=3D"userEdit" style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;=
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<div><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1=
0pt; color: #000000;"><span style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: 'Times Ne=
w Roman'; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures:=
 normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: norma=
l; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; w=
hite-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width=
: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; disp=
lay: inline !important; float: none;">I'd like to pick up on what Chuck sta=
ted here:</span></span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1=
0pt; color: #000000;"><span style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: 'Times Ne=
w Roman'; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures:=
 normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: norma=
l; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; w=
hite-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width=
: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; disp=
lay: inline !important; float: none;">...<em>"In a vapor lock state an elec=
tric pump should stay pumping against a vapor lock yielding the pump soundi=
ng like the pump after it starts up and then builds pressure and the pump s=
tarts running against the built up pressure'</em>...</span></span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1=
0pt; color: #000000;"><span style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: 'Times Ne=
w Roman'; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures:=
 normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: norma=
l; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; w=
hite-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width=
: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; disp=
lay: inline !important; float: none;">Although I have never experienced thi=
s on my Mini, I have on the Moke and the Bugeye, I have noticed it when cra=
wling along in stop &amp; go traffic or similar type conditions. The cars c=
ontinue to run fine but, it sounds as if I am running out of fuel, and it a=
lways causes me to immediately check the fuel gauge.</span></span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1=
0pt; color: #000000;"><span style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: 'Times Ne=
w Roman'; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures:=
 normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: norma=
l; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; w=
hite-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width=
: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; disp=
lay: inline !important; float: none;">&nbsp;All of my cars run an electroni=
c pump in the original factory locations. I have one fuel filter between th=
e tank and the pump and another one up front before the carbs.</span></span=
></div>
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<div><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1=
0pt; color: #000000;"><span style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: 'Times Ne=
w Roman'; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures:=
 normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: norma=
l; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; w=
hite-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width=
: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; disp=
lay: inline !important; float: none;"> <span style=3D"font-family: arial, h=
elvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;"><span style=3D"colo=
r: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 13.3333px; font-styl=
e: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-=
weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-in=
dent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spaci=
ng: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; te=
xt-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">So,=
 the question: if this is truly vapor lock, what do we do to eliminate it?<=
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<div><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1=
0pt; color: #000000;"><span style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: 'Times Ne=
w Roman'; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures:=
 normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: norma=
l; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; w=
hite-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width=
: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; disp=
lay: inline !important; float: none;">Howard</span></span></div>
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<div><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1=
0pt; color: #000000;"><span style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: 'Times Ne=
w Roman'; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures:=
 normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: norma=
l; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; w=
hite-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width=
: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; disp=
lay: inline !important; float: none;">So what we we experiencing here is th=
e pump pump pushing against a vapor lock situation?</span> </span></div>
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0pt; color: #000000;"><br></span></div>
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In a message dated 7/4/2020 1:15:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net writes:
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<blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: blue=
 2px solid;"><span style=3D"background-color: transparent; color: #000000; =
font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">In a vapor lock state an e lectric p=
ump should stay pumping against a vapor lock yielding the pump sounding lik=
e the pump after it starts up and then builds pressure and the pump starts =
running against the built up pressure.&nbsp; Even my tick-tick pump ran.</s=
pan></blockquote>
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