Subject: Re: [Spridgets] News from England (no LBC)

From: Ron Soave via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2020 14:44:15 -0500

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Our actuator. Zoll sells the entire Autopulse  apparatus. We are developing a=
ctuators for weld stair climbing gurneys and wheelchairs as well.=20

Ron Soave

> On Mar 22, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Linda Grunthaner <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Wow Ron that is awesome! I was an EMT/Firefighter/Police Dispatcher betwee=
n 76-87 and did CPR countless times on our rig. Is that device from your com=
pany or is only the actuator your part? Also I didn't know compressions coul=
d be given to a healthy person without putting them into de-fib. Please temp=
s more.=20
> Your healthy guy getting compressions:
> https://youtu.be/t3_bVBAcMBQ
> Linda
>=20
>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 12:50 PM Ron Soave <[email-masked]> wrote:
>> Even better - https://youtu.be/cD1-KGzaRv8
>>=20
>> Ron Soave
>>=20
>>>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Ron Soave <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BFHere=E2=80=99s a brief one. Our actuator is expanding/contracti=
ng the CPR compression strap. It has built in sensing to prevent patient dam=
age.=20
>>>=20
>>> https://youtu.be/t3_bVBAcMBQ
>>>=20
>>> Ron Soave
>>>=20
>>>>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Linda Grunthaner <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>>>>>=20
>>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>>> Hi Ron and Spridgiteers,=20
>>>> Ron can you tell me where I can find that link of the actuator you make=
 as I searched youtube for Zoll Autopulse and there are a lot of training vi=
deos for CPR training but I don't think that is the actuator you speak of. R=
on keep up the good work.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Also Ron is there anything that I can do in helping your company to get=
 more of these actuator's produced? I just want to help.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Lastly sorry I haven't been checking with the group list in such a long=
 time, I've been pretty busy teaching (now virtually) and often use FaceBook=
 as images help more with our Spridget work.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Updates here in the NYC/NJ area: I just received good news from my good=
 friend and teaching colleague that her  daughter is pregnant with the famil=
y's first grandchild. The not so good news is she is a nurse in the critical=
 care pediatric unit in a Washington DC hospital, she is due in September an=
d the mom-to-be is young (20-something). Our new single mom,  school nurse i=
s also a part-time nurse in a local hospital, she said they are begging for p=
art time nurses to add more hours and she is nervous as PPE is running very s=
hort.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> If you are like me you have loved ones across the globe, and many at di=
fferent ages and health conditions, mine are in NYC. I love this group for t=
he reality check as I always get great advice and above all happiness. Pleas=
e check in every so often to know you are all safe and well and ask for help=
 when needed. As for me I love tent/camping and I am gathering leaves for wh=
at we campers use for you-know-what...............wink! Yes I'll burry it wh=
en I'm done.
>>>>=20
>>>> Huge virtual hugs to all, be well,
>>>> Linda
>>>>=20
>>>> 62 California Sprite "Pinky"
>>>> 60 Bugeye Barn-find, Thank You Bill (Wm. Severin Thompson)
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:10 PM Ron Soave via Spridgets <spridgets@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>> We=E2=80=99re getting by here in Roscoe, IL, still playing with Spridg=
ets and TRs and Spec Racers. Exponential growth is a dizzying thing, and I l=
ove our guy Dr. Fauci. He doesn=E2=80=99t care about politics.=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Fortunately, our small business has a department of defense component,=
 and more importantly right now we are 35% medical  actuation, so we are hop=
ing to avoid a shutdown. We=E2=80=99ve been asked to ramp up production of a=
n actuator we make (YouTube search Zoll Autopulse; that=E2=80=99s our actuat=
or in the guts of the machine), and we are rapidly working to help with vent=
ilator demand. Conservative models show we will need 100,000 more than curre=
ntly exist. I now know a person who has it, a healthy 40-something Colorado s=
ki bum who air bnb=E2=80=99d her place to an Austrian who had it. She is jus=
t coming off 5 days of 102F to 104F fevers.=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Stay safe, all.=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Ron Soave
>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2020, at 9:07 PM, WFO Herb via Spridgets <spridgets@autox=
.team.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>>>>> Ditto what Mike said; much the same here.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> As a single guy, I eat out (not much of a cook).  With all restaurant=
s closed, I may be shedding a few pounds.  Crazy!
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Here's the rub...Why is it we can't eat out or be in a group of more t=
han 10 people yet the grocery stores are packed with hundreds of people?  If=
 the mean old virus is anywhere that's where it would be, right.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Look at the numbers, things don't add up.  The liberal and the left h=
as brought America to a standstill.=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Herb
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:43 AM Weslake1330 via Spridgets <spridget=
[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Some (no LBC) news from England.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> As I told my kids (22 and 17) earlier I am 56 years old and I have n=
ever seen supermarket shelves empty like I did earlier this evening.  Thursd=
ay is one of my normal shopping days, the other is Monday.  Call me a snob b=
ut I shop in Sainsburys and the other shoppers looked like Asda shoppers!
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Ever since 9/11 I have kept a diverse supply of canned and dried foo=
d along with some water and a few cartons of UHT milk - it would keep the fa=
mily going for about 3 weeks.  I have a note of the use by dates and routine=
ly an old tin comes out of the cupboard to be used and a new tin goes in the=
 cupboard to replace it. Of course we do always have other food in the 'regu=
lar' cupboard and we have a small freezer.  So, I'm constantly able to remin=
d the rest of my family about this in case they need reassurance.  We have f=
ew elderly neighbours and we can share or shop for them if they need us to
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> We call it toilet paper and I think you might mostly call it toilet t=
issue and not to put too fine a point on it it's what you wipe your arse wit=
h.  In normal times we have occasionally had a martial row when the person w=
ho was supposed to buy some let stocks expire.  Kitchen roll makes a poor su=
bstitute and can block your household plumbing/outside drain and sewer.  We h=
ave a reasonable stock at present but I'm old enough to know that know is a g=
ood time to hang onto a few more old newspapers than we do normally.  Of cou=
rse I'm not sure we have any 'bulldog clips' but I think we could manage wit=
hout if necessary.  I guess other folk must have softer backsides than I do o=
r worry about seeing a reflection that includes newspaper print when they lo=
ok in the mirror.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> The train I take to and from work each day is now almost empty.  Mos=
t of my office is working from home but I want to stay at work for as long a=
s possible.  IT hasn't been great for everyone and here at home while I have=
 broadband it runs on copper wire to the telephone pole outside my house and=
 most likely to the green 'GPO' box at the end of my straight and maybe stil=
l copper to the exchange in the town centre.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> I don't have money worries but things can change fast and there are m=
any workers over hear in the wrong kind of job which now amounts to no job.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> The virus doesn't actually seem to kill that many people and I expec=
t to live but if I don't I'm insured.  I'm also 'saved' (from my sins) so do=
n't have to worry about where I'm going to end up - Heaven, or no-where if I=
'm mistaken in my beliefs.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> So apart from what you can read at the BBC news site (which I think h=
as some bias) things are unusual here. I almost forgot - motor racing has be=
en cancelled and the churches have closed.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> So maybe by a little extra now and again before panic buying takes o=
ff in your part of the world and if 'Bird Flu Pandemic' (practically the sam=
e book as 'Corona Virus' isn't your sort of thing maybe give a helpful vote t=
o the positive reviews or read 'Rich Girl' - more of a gear head story.  'Co=
urse even if I sell vast amounts of books and can actually afford to cross t=
he pond for a meet or an o-shit - there might not be many planes flying.  An=
d the winner in all this is - The Environment and the toilet paper manufactu=
rers - mostly likely short term for both.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Daniel1312
>>>>>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Our actuator. Zoll sells the entire Autopul=
se &nbsp;apparatus. We are developing actuators for weld stair climbing gurn=
eys and wheelchairs as well.&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron Soave</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 22, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Li=
nda Grunthaner &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Wow Ron that is awesome! I was an EMT/Firefighter/Police Dispatch=
er between 76-87 and did CPR countless times on our rig. Is that device from=
 your company or is only the actuator your part? Also I didn't know compress=
ions could be given to a healthy person without putting them into de-fib. Pl=
ease temps more.&nbsp;<div>Your healthy guy getting compressions:</div><div>=
<a href=3D"https://youtu.be/t3_bVBAcMBQ" target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/=
t3_bVBAcMBQ</a><br></div><div>Linda</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 12:50 P=
M Ron Soave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:r=
gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Even better -&nbsp;<a hr=
ef=3D"https://youtu.be/cD1-KGzaRv8" target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/cD1-K=
GzaRv8</a><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron Soave</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 22, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Ron Soave &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=
=BFHere=E2=80=99s a brief one. Our actuator is expanding/contracting the CPR=
 compression strap. It has built in sensing to prevent patient damage.&nbsp;=
<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/t3_bVBAcMBQ" target=3D"_blan=
k">https://youtu.be/t3_bVBAcMBQ</a><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron Soave</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 22, 2020, at 10:19 AM, L=
inda Grunthaner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Ron and Spridgiteers,&nbs=
p;<div>Ron can you tell me where I can&nbsp;find&nbsp;that link of the actua=
tor you make as I searched youtube for&nbsp;Zoll Autopulse and there are a l=
ot of training videos for CPR training but I don't think that is the actuato=
r you speak of. Ron keep up the good work.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Al=
so Ron is there anything that I can do in helping your company to get more o=
f these actuator's produced? I just want to help.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div>=
<div>Lastly sorry I haven't been checking with the group list in such a long=
 time, I've been pretty busy teaching (now virtually) and often use FaceBook=
 as images help more with our Spridget work.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>=
Updates here in the NYC/NJ area: I just received good news from my good frie=
nd and teaching colleague that her &nbsp;daughter is pregnant with the famil=
y's first grandchild. The not so good news is she is a nurse in the critical=
 care pediatric unit in a Washington DC hospital, she is due in September an=
d the mom-to-be is young (20-something). Our new single mom, &nbsp;school nu=
rse is also a part-time nurse in a local hospital, she said they are begging=
 for part time nurses to add more hours and she is nervous as PPE is running=
 very short.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>If you are like me you have love=
d ones across the globe, and many at different ages and health conditions, m=
ine are in NYC. I love this group for the reality check as I always get grea=
t advice and above all happiness. Please check in every so often to know you=
 are all safe and well and ask for help when needed. As for me I love tent/c=
amping and I am gathering leaves for what we campers use for you-know-what..=
.............wink! Yes I'll burry&nbsp;it when I'm done.</div><div><br></div=
><div>Huge virtual hugs to all, be well,</div><div>Linda</div><div><br></div=
><div>62 California Sprite "Pinky"</div><div>60 Bugeye Barn-find, Thank You B=
ill (Wm. Severin Thompson)</div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 a=
t 11:10 PM Ron Soave via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">We=E2=80=99re getting by here in Roscoe, IL, s=
till playing with Spridgets and TRs and Spec Racers. Exponential growth is a=
 dizzying thing, and I love our guy Dr. Fauci. He doesn=E2=80=99t care about=
 politics.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Fortunately, our small business has a de=
partment of defense component, and more importantly right now we are 35% med=
ical &nbsp;actuation, so we are hoping to avoid a shutdown. We=E2=80=99ve be=
en asked to ramp up production of an actuator we make (YouTube search Zoll A=
utopulse; that=E2=80=99s our actuator in the guts of the machine), and we ar=
e rapidly working to help with ventilator demand. Conservative models show w=
e will need 100,000 more than currently exist. I now know a person who has i=
t, a healthy 40-something Colorado ski bum who air bnb=E2=80=99d her place t=
o an Austrian who had it. She is just coming off 5 days of 102F to 104F feve=
rs.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Stay safe, all.&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Ron Soave</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 19=
, 2020, at 9:07 PM, WFO Herb via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
<br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<=
div dir=3D"ltr">Ditto what Mike said; much the same here.<div><br></div><div=
>As a single guy, I eat out (not much of a cook).&nbsp; With all restaurants=
 closed, I may be shedding a few pounds.&nbsp; Crazy!</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Here's the rub...Why is it we can't eat out or be in a group of more than=
 10 people yet the grocery stores are packed with hundreds of people?&nbsp; I=
f the mean old virus is anywhere that's where it would be, right.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Look at the numbers, things don't add up.&nbsp; The liberal a=
nd the left has brought America to a standstill.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><=
div>Herb</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:43 AM Weslake1330 via Spridgets &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;bord=
er-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi List,<d=
iv><br></div><div>Some (no LBC) news from England.</div><div><br></div><div>=
As I told my kids (22 and 17) earlier I am 56 years old and I have never see=
n supermarket shelves empty like I did earlier this evening.&nbsp; Thursday i=
s one of my normal shopping days, the other is Monday.&nbsp; Call me a snob b=
ut I shop in Sainsburys and the other shoppers looked like Asda shoppers!</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Ever since 9/11 I have kept a diverse supply of canne=
d and dried food along with some water and a few cartons of UHT milk - it wo=
uld keep the family going for about 3 weeks.&nbsp; I have a note of the use b=
y dates and routinely an old tin comes out of the cupboard to be used and a n=
ew tin goes in the cupboard to replace it. Of course we do always have other=
 food in the 'regular' cupboard and we have a small freezer.&nbsp; So, I'm c=
onstantly able to remind the rest of my family about this in case they need r=
eassurance.&nbsp; We have few elderly neighbours and we can share or shop fo=
r them if they need us to</div><div><br></div><div>We call it toilet paper a=
nd I think you might mostly call&nbsp;it toilet tissue and not to put too fi=
ne a point on it it's what you wipe your arse with.&nbsp; In normal times we=
 have occasionally had a martial row when the person who was supposed to buy=
 some let stocks expire.&nbsp; Kitchen roll makes a poor substitute and can b=
lock your household plumbing/outside drain and sewer.&nbsp; We have a reason=
able stock at present but I'm old enough to know that know is a good time to=
 hang onto a few more old newspapers than we do normally.&nbsp; Of course I'=
m not sure we have any 'bulldog clips' but I think we could manage without i=
f necessary.&nbsp; I guess other folk must have softer backsides than I do o=
r worry about seeing a reflection that includes newspaper print when they lo=
ok in the mirror.</div><div><br></div><div>The train I take to and from work=
 each day is now almost empty.&nbsp; Most of my office is working from home b=
ut I want to stay at work for as long as possible.&nbsp; IT hasn't been grea=
t for everyone and here at home while I have broadband it runs on copper wir=
e to the telephone pole outside my house and most likely to the green 'GPO' b=
ox at the end of my straight and maybe still copper to the exchange in the t=
own centre.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't have money worries but things c=
an change fast and there are many workers over hear in the wrong kind of job=
 which now amounts to no job.</div><div><br></div><div>The virus doesn't act=
ually seem to kill that many people and I expect to live but if I don't I'm i=
nsured.&nbsp; I'm also 'saved' (from my sins) so don't have to worry about w=
here I'm going to end up - Heaven, or no-where if I'm mistaken in my beliefs=
.</div><div><br></div><div>So apart from what you can read at the BBC news s=
ite (which I think has some bias) things are unusual here. I almost forgot -=
 motor racing has been cancelled and the churches have closed.</div><div><br=
></div><div>So maybe by a little extra now and again before panic buying tak=
es off in your part of the world and if 'Bird Flu Pandemic' (practically the=
 same book as 'Corona Virus' isn't your sort of thing maybe give a helpful v=
ote to the positive reviews or read 'Rich Girl' - more of a gear head story.=
&nbsp; 'Course even if I sell vast amounts of books and can actually afford t=
o cross the pond for a meet or an o-shit - there might not be many planes fl=
ying.&nbsp; And the winner in all this is - The Environment and the toilet p=
aper manufacturers - mostly likely short term for both.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Daniel1312</div><div><br></div><div><b=
r></div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div>
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Wow Ron,
Please let me know more about those products such as stair climbing and
wheel chair  too. Ron are you an engineer for Zoll or just sell parts to
Zoll? Sorry if I missed that part of the discussion.
Linda

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 3:44 PM Ron Soave <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Our actuator. Zoll sells the entire Autopulse  apparatus. We are
> developing actuators for weld stair climbing gurneys and wheelchairs as
> well.
>
> Ron Soave
>
> On Mar 22, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Linda Grunthaner <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> Wow Ron that is awesome! I was an EMT/Firefighter/Police Dispatcher
> between 76-87 and did CPR countless times on our rig. Is that device from
> your company or is only the actuator your part? Also I didn't know
> compressions could be given to a healthy person without putting them into
> de-fib. Please temps more.
ng the CPR
>> compression strap. It has built in sensing to prevent patient damage.
>>
>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Linda Grunthaner <[email-masked]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> Hi Ron and Spridgiteers,
>> Ron can you tell me where I can find that link of the actuator you make
>> as I searched youtube for Zoll Autopulse and there are a lot of training
>> videos for CPR training but I don't think that is the actuator you speak
>> of. Ron keep up the good work.
>>
>> Also Ron is there anything that I can do in helping your company to get
>> more of these actuator's produced? I just want to help.
>>
>> Lastly sorry I haven't been checking with the group list in such a long
>> time, I've been pretty busy teaching (now virtually) and often use FaceB=
ook
>> as images help more with our Spridget work.
>>
>> Updates here in the NYC/NJ area: I just received good news from my good
>> friend and teaching colleague that her  daughter is pregnant with the
>> family's first grandchild. The not so good news is she is a nurse in the
>> critical care pediatric unit in a Washington DC hospital, she is due in
>> September and the mom-to-be is young (20-something). Our new single mom,
>>  school nurse is also a part-time nurse in a local hospital, she said th=
ey
>> are begging for part time nurses to add more hours and she is nervous as
>> PPE is running very short.
>>
>> If you are like me you have loved ones across the globe, and many at
>> different ages and health conditions, mine are in NYC. I love this group
>> for the reality check as I always get great advice and above all happine=
ss.
>> Please check in every so often to know you are all safe and well and ask
>> for help when needed. As for me I love tent/camping and I am gathering
>> leaves for what we campers use for you-know-what...............wink! Yes
>> I'll burry it when I'm done.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:10 PM Ron Soave via Spridgets <
>> [email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>>> We=E2=80=99re getting by here in Roscoe, IL, still playing with Spridge=
ts and
>>> TRs and Spec Racers. Exponential growth is a dizzying thing, and I love=
 our
>>> guy Dr. Fauci. He doesn=E2=80=99t care about politics.
>>>
>>> Fortunately, our small business has a department of defense component,
>>> and more importantly right now we are 35% medical  actuation, so we are
>>> hoping to avoid a shutdown. We=E2=80=99ve been asked to ramp up product=
ion of an
>>> actuator we make (YouTube search Zoll Autopulse; that=E2=80=99s our act=
uator in the
>>> guts of the machine), and we are rapidly working to help with ventilato=
r
>>> demand. Conservative models show we will need 100,000 more than current=
ly
>>> exist. I now know a person who has it, a healthy 40-something Colorado =
ski
>>> bum who air bnb=E2=80=99d her place to an Austrian who had it. She is j=
ust coming
>>> off 5 days of 102F to 104F fevers.
>>>
>>> Stay safe, all.
>>>
>>> Ron Soave
>>>
>>> On Mar 19, 2020, at 9:07 PM, WFO Herb via Spridgets <
>>> [email-masked]> wrote:
>>>
>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>> As a single guy, I eat out (not much of a cook).  With all restaurants
>>> closed, I may be shedding a few pounds.  Crazy!
>>>
>>> Here's the rub...Why is it we can't eat out or be in a group of more
>>> than 10 people yet the grocery stores are packed with hundreds of peopl=
e?
>>> If the mean old virus is anywhere that's where it would be, right.
>>>
>>> Look at the numbers, things don't add up.  The liberal and the left has
>>> brought America to a standstill.
>>>
>>> Herb
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:43 AM Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
>>> [email-masked]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi List,
>>>>
>>>> As I told my kids (22 and 17) earlier I am 56 years old and I have
>>>> never seen supermarket shelves empty like I did earlier this evening.
>>>> Thursday is one of my normal shopping days, the other is Monday.  Call=
 me a
>>>> snob but I shop in Sainsburys and the other shoppers looked like Asda
>>>> shoppers!
>>>>
>>>> Ever since 9/11 I have kept a diverse supply of canned and dried food
>>>> along with some water and a few cartons of UHT milk - it would keep th=
e
>>>> family going for about 3 weeks.  I have a note of the use by dates and
>>>> routinely an old tin comes out of the cupboard to be used and a new ti=
n
>>>> goes in the cupboard to replace it. Of course we do always have other =
food
>>>> in the 'regular' cupboard and we have a small freezer.  So, I'm consta=
ntly
>>>> able to remind the rest of my family about this in case they need
>>>> reassurance.  We have few elderly neighbours and we can share or shop =
for
>>>> them if they need us to
>>>>
>>>> We call it toilet paper and I think you might mostly call it toilet
>>>> tissue and not to put too fine a point on it it's what you wipe your a=
rse
>>>> with.  In normal times we have occasionally had a martial row when the
>>>> person who was supposed to buy some let stocks expire.  Kitchen roll m=
akes
>>>> a poor substitute and can block your household plumbing/outside drain =
and
>>>> sewer.  We have a reasonable stock at present but I'm old enough to kn=
ow
>>>> that know is a good time to hang onto a few more old newspapers than w=
e do
>>>> normally.  Of course I'm not sure we have any 'bulldog clips' but I th=
ink
>>>> we could manage without if necessary.  I guess other folk must have so=
fter
>>>> backsides than I do or worry about seeing a reflection that includes
>>>> newspaper print when they look in the mirror.
>>>>
>>>> The train I take to and from work each day is now almost empty.  Most
>>>> of my office is working from home but I want to stay at work for as lo=
ng as
>>>> possible.  IT hasn't been great for everyone and here at home while I =
have
>>>> broadband it runs on copper wire to the telephone pole outside my hous=
e and
>>>> most likely to the green 'GPO' box at the end of my straight and maybe
>>>> still copper to the exchange in the town centre.
>>>>
>>>> I don't have money worries but things can change fast and there are
>>>> many workers over hear in the wrong kind of job which now amounts to n=
o job.
>>>>
>>>> The virus doesn't actually seem to kill that many people and I expect
>>>> to live but if I don't I'm insured.  I'm also 'saved' (from my sins) s=
o
>>>> don't have to worry about where I'm going to end up - Heaven, or no-wh=
ere
>>>> if I'm mistaken in my beliefs.
>>>>
>>>> So apart from what you can read at the BBC news site (which I think ha=
s
>>>> some bias) things are unusual here. I almost forgot - motor racing has=
 been
>>>> cancelled and the churches have closed.
>>>>
>>>> So maybe by a little extra now and again before panic buying takes off
>>>> in your part of the world and if 'Bird Flu Pandemic' (practically the =
same
>>>> book as 'Corona Virus' isn't your sort of thing maybe give a helpful v=
ote
>>>> to the positive reviews or read 'Rich Girl' - more of a gear head stor=
y.
>>>> 'Course even if I sell vast amounts of books and can actually afford t=
o
>>>> cross the pond for a meet or an o-shit - there might not be many plane=
s
>>>> flying.  And the winner in all this is - The Environment and the toile=
t
>>>> paper manufacturers - mostly likely short term for both.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Daniel1312
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Wow Ron,<div>Please let me know more about those=C2=A0prod=
ucts such as stair=C2=A0climbing and wheel chair =C2=A0too. Ron are you an =
engineer for Zoll or just sell parts to Zoll? Sorry if I missed that part o=
f the discussion.</div><div>Linda</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 3:44 PM Ron =
Soave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(=
204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Our actuator. Zoll sells t=
he entire Autopulse =C2=A0apparatus. We are developing actuators for weld s=
tair climbing gurneys and wheelchairs as well.=C2=A0<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Ron Soave</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 22, =
2020, at 1:31 PM, Linda Grunthaner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquo=
te></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div dir=3D"ltr">Wow Ron that is awesome! I was an EMT/Firefighter/Polic=
e Dispatcher between 76-87 and did CPR countless times on our rig. Is that =
device from your company or is only the actuator your part? Also I didn&#39=
;t know compressions could be given to a healthy person without putting the=
m into de-fib. Please temps more.=C2=A0<div>Your healthy guy getting compre=
ssions:</div><div><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/t3_bVBAcMBQ" target=3D"_blank=
">https://youtu.be/t3_bVBAcMBQ</a><br></div><div>Linda</div></div></div><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, M=
ar 22, 2020 at 12:50 PM Ron Soave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;=
border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
"><div dir=3D"auto">Even better -=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://youtu.be/cD1-KGza=
Rv8" target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/cD1-KGzaRv8</a><br><br><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Ron Soave</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 2=
2, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Ron Soave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BFHere=E2=80=99s a brief =
one. Our actuator is expanding/contracting the CPR compression strap. It ha=
s built in sensing to prevent patient damage.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div><a h=
ref=3D"https://youtu.be/t3_bVBAcMBQ" target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/t3_=
bVBAcMBQ</a><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron Soave</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 22, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Linda Grunthaner &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">grunthaner@gmail.=
com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Ron and Spridgiteers,=C2=A0<div>Ron can =
you tell me where I can=C2=A0find=C2=A0that link of the actuator you make a=
s I searched youtube for=C2=A0Zoll Autopulse and there are a lot of trainin=
g videos for CPR training but I don&#39;t think that is the actuator you sp=
eak of. Ron keep up the good work.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Also Ron =
is there anything that I can do in helping your company to get more of thes=
e actuator&#39;s produced? I just want to help.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><=
div>Lastly sorry I haven&#39;t been checking with the group list in such a =
long time, I&#39;ve been pretty busy teaching (now virtually) and often use=
 FaceBook as images help more with our Spridget work.=C2=A0</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Updates here in the NYC/NJ area: I just received good news from m=
y good friend and teaching colleague that her =C2=A0daughter is pregnant wi=
th the family&#39;s first grandchild. The not so good news is she is a nurs=
e in the critical care pediatric unit in a Washington DC hospital, she is d=
ue in September and the mom-to-be is young (20-something). Our new single m=
om, =C2=A0school nurse is also a part-time nurse in a local hospital, she s=
aid they are begging for part time nurses to add more hours and she is nerv=
ous as PPE is running very short.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>If you are=
 like me you have loved ones across the globe, and many at different ages a=
nd health conditions, mine are in NYC. I love this group for the reality ch=
eck as I always get great advice and above all happiness. Please check in e=
very so often to know you are all safe and well and ask for help when neede=
d. As for me I love tent/camping and I am gathering leaves for what we camp=
ers use for you-know-what...............wink! Yes I&#39;ll burry=C2=A0it wh=
en I&#39;m done.</div><div><br></div><div>Huge virtual hugs to all, be well=
,</div><div>Linda</div><div><br></div><div>62 California Sprite &quot;Pinky=
&quot;</div><div>60 Bugeye Barn-find, Thank You Bill (Wm. Severin Thompson)=
</div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:10 PM Ron Soave vi=
a Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-l=
eft-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div d=
ir=3D"auto">We=E2=80=99re getting by here in Roscoe, IL, still playing with=
 Spridgets and TRs and Spec Racers. Exponential growth is a dizzying thing,=
 and I love our guy Dr. Fauci. He doesn=E2=80=99t care about politics.=C2=
=A0<div><br></div><div>Fortunately, our small business has a department of =
defense component, and more importantly right now we are 35% medical =C2=A0=
actuation, so we are hoping to avoid a shutdown. We=E2=80=99ve been asked t=
o ramp up production of an actuator we make (YouTube search Zoll Autopulse;=
 that=E2=80=99s our actuator in the guts of the machine), and we are rapidl=
y working to help with ventilator demand. Conservative models show we will =
need 100,000 more than currently exist. I now know a person who has it, a h=
ealthy 40-something Colorado ski bum who air bnb=E2=80=99d her place to an =
Austrian who had it. She is just coming off 5 days of 102F to 104F fevers.=
=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Stay safe, all.=C2=A0<br><br><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Ron Soave</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 19,=
 2020, at 9:07 PM, WFO Herb via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=
=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">Ditto what Mike said; much the same here.<div><br></div=
><div>As a single guy, I eat out (not much of a cook).=C2=A0 With all resta=
urants closed, I may be shedding a few pounds.=C2=A0 Crazy!</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Here&#39;s the rub...Why is it we can&#39;t eat out or be in a gr=
oup of more than 10 people yet the grocery stores are packed with hundreds =
of people?=C2=A0 If the mean old virus is anywhere that&#39;s where it woul=
d be, right.</div><div><br></div><div>Look at the numbers, things don&#39;t=
 add up.=C2=A0 The liberal and the left has brought America to a standstill=
.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Herb</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:43 AM=
 Weslake1330 via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-wid=
th:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-l=
eft:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi List,<div><br></div><div>Some (no LBC) news fr=
om England.</div><div><br></div><div>As I told my kids (22 and 17) earlier =
I am 56 years old and I have never seen supermarket shelves empty like I di=
d earlier this evening.=C2=A0 Thursday is one of my normal shopping days, t=
he other is Monday.=C2=A0 Call me a snob but I shop in Sainsburys and the o=
ther shoppers looked like Asda shoppers!</div><div><br></div><div>Ever sinc=
e 9/11 I have kept a diverse supply of canned and dried food along with som=
e water and a few cartons of UHT milk - it would keep the family going for =
about 3 weeks.=C2=A0 I have a note of the use by dates and routinely an old=
 tin comes out of the cupboard to be used and a new tin goes in the cupboar=
d to replace it. Of course we do always have other food in the &#39;regular=
&#39; cupboard and we have a small freezer.=C2=A0 So, I&#39;m constantly ab=
le to remind the rest of my family about this in case they need reassurance=
.=C2=A0 We have few elderly neighbours and we can share or shop for them if=
 they need us to</div><div><br></div><div>We call it toilet paper and I thi=
nk you might mostly call=C2=A0it toilet tissue and not to put too fine a po=
int on it it&#39;s what you wipe your arse with.=C2=A0 In normal times we h=
ave occasionally had a martial row when the person who was supposed to buy =
some let stocks expire.=C2=A0 Kitchen roll makes a poor substitute and can =
block your household plumbing/outside drain and sewer.=C2=A0 We have a reas=
onable stock at present but I&#39;m old enough to know that know is a good =
time to hang onto a few more old newspapers than we do normally.=C2=A0 Of c=
ourse I&#39;m not sure we have any &#39;bulldog clips&#39; but I think we c=
ould manage without if necessary.=C2=A0 I guess other folk must have softer=
 backsides than I do or worry about seeing a reflection that includes newsp=
aper print when they look in the mirror.</div><div><br></div><div>The train=
 I take to and from work each day is now almost empty.=C2=A0 Most of my off=
ice is working from home but I want to stay at work for as long as possible=
.=C2=A0 IT hasn&#39;t been great for everyone and here at home while I have=
 broadband it runs on copper wire to the telephone pole outside my house an=
d most likely to the green &#39;GPO&#39; box at the end of my straight and =
maybe still copper to the exchange in the town centre.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>I don&#39;t have money worries but things can change fast and there ar=
e many workers over hear in the wrong kind of job which now amounts to no j=
ob.</div><div><br></div><div>The virus doesn&#39;t actually seem to kill th=
at many people and I expect to live but if I don&#39;t I&#39;m insured.=C2=
=A0 I&#39;m also &#39;saved&#39; (from my sins) so don&#39;t have to worry =
about where I&#39;m going to end up - Heaven, or no-where if I&#39;m mistak=
en in my beliefs.</div><div><br></div><div>So apart from what you can read =
at the BBC news site (which I think has some bias) things are unusual here.=
 I almost forgot - motor racing has been cancelled and the churches have cl=
osed.</div><div><br></div><div>So maybe by a little extra now and again bef=
ore panic buying takes off in your part of the world and if &#39;Bird Flu P=
andemic&#39; (practically the same book as &#39;Corona Virus&#39; isn&#39;t=
 your sort of thing maybe give a helpful vote to the positive reviews or re=
ad &#39;Rich Girl&#39; - more of a gear head story.=C2=A0 &#39;Course even =
if I sell vast amounts of books and can actually afford to cross the pond f=
or a meet or an o-shit - there might not be many planes flying.=C2=A0 And t=
he winner in all this is - The Environment and the toilet paper manufacture=
rs - mostly likely short term for both.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Daniel1312</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><=
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