Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ARP Flywheel bolt application

From: Ron Soave via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 17:39:01 -0600

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Personally, I use ARP bolts with their goop. Only had a problem that one tim=
e I didn=E2=80=99t...

Ron Soave

> On Jan 16, 2020, at 4:11 PM, crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <spridgets@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:
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> On the 79 GP Championship winning car and all of Randy Canfelds race motor=
s we used grade 8 bolts and red Locktite.
> Never had a failure.  We also used loctite on the pressure plate bolts.
> Chuck
> Getting closer & closer to making the Midget a complete car...
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> ------ Original message------
> From: Mark Haynes via Spridgets
> Date: Thu, Jan 16, 2020 4:32 PM
> To: Spridgets list;
> Cc:
> Subject:[Spridgets] ARP Flywheel bolt application
>=20
> A question for the generalists and the racers:
> If you were to put ARP flywheel bolts onto your engine, and given that the=
y supply their own "special sauce" to put onto the bolts to achieve specifie=
d torque values, and that all of your previous experience with flywheel bolt=
s was to apply Loctite to them.
> Would You:
> A) Use the Special Sauce only
> B) Use Loctite
> or C) use Special sauce (just enough) and then use Loctite between the hea=
d of the bolts and the flywheel face?
> What do Racers Do?
> What would you do?
> Enquiring Minds and all of that...;??}
> Mark Haynes
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Personally, I use ARP bolts with their goop=
. Only had a problem that one time I didn=E2=80=99t...<div><br></div><div>Ro=
n Soave</div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 16, 2=
020, at 4:11 PM, crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets &lt;[email-masked]=
et&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

    <div style=3D"font-size: 10pt;"><div dir=3D"auto">On the 79 GP Champions=
hip winning car and all of Randy Canfelds race motors we used grade 8 bolts a=
nd red Locktite.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Never had a failure.&nbsp; We also u=
sed loctite on the pressure plate bolts.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Chuck</div><=
div dir=3D"auto">Getting closer &amp; closer to making the Midget a complete=
 car...</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-size:9pt;"><i>Sent from my LG Mobile</i></div>=
</div></div><div style=3D"font-size: 10pt;"><div id=3D"LGEmailHeader" dir=3D=
"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">------ Original message=
------</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>From: </b>Mark Haynes via Spridgets<spridge=
[email-masked]></[email-masked]></div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>Date=
: </b>Thu, Jan 16, 2020 4:32 PM</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>To: </b>Spridgets l=
ist;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>Cc: </b></div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>Subject:</=
b>[Spridgets] ARP Flywheel bolt application<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>A question for the generalists and the racers:</div><=
div>If you were to put ARP flywheel bolts onto your engine, and given that t=
hey supply their own "special sauce" to put onto the bolts to achieve specif=
ied torque values, and that all of your previous experience with flywheel bo=
lts was to apply Loctite to them.<br></div><div>Would You:</div><div> A) Use=
 the Special Sauce only</div><div>B) Use Loctite</div><div>or C) use Special=
 sauce (just enough) and then use Loctite between the head of the bolts and t=
he flywheel face?</div><div>What do Racers Do?</div><div>What would you do?<=
/div><div>Enquiring Minds and all of that...;??}<br></div><div><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div>Mark Haynes<br></div>It only goes one way- Pay It Forward<br=
></div></div></div></div></div>
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 19:45:34 -0600

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Actually just looked - the ARP bolts specify Loctite 242 on threads and thei=
r goop under the head as well, very specific instructions.

Ron Soave

> On Jan 16, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Ron Soave <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Personally, I use ARP bolts with their goop. Only had a problem that one t=
ime I didn=E2=80=99t...
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> Ron Soave
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>> On Jan 16, 2020, at 4:11 PM, crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <spridgets@=
autox.team.net> wrote:
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> On the 79 GP Championship winning car and all of Randy Canfelds race moto=
rs we used grade 8 bolts and red Locktite.
>> If you were to put ARP flywheel bolts onto your engine, and given that th=
ey supply their own "special sauce" to put onto the bolts to achieve specifi=
ed torque values, and that all of your previous experience with flywheel bol=
ts was to apply Loctite to them.
>> or C) use Special sauce (just enough) and then use Loctite between the he=
ad of the bolts and the flywheel face?
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets  http://autox.team.net/a=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Actually just looked - the ARP bolts specif=
y Loctite 242 on threads and their goop under the head as well, very specifi=
c instructions.<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Ron Soave<=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 16, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Ron Soave &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type"=
 content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Personally, I use ARP bolts with the=
ir goop. Only had a problem that one time I didn=E2=80=99t...<div><br></div>=
<div>Ron Soave</div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On J=
an 16, 2020, at 4:11 PM, crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br=
></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 22:31:06 +0000

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I work on the principle that ARP know more than I do so if they say use
their lubricant to make sure the bolt is fastened to the correct torque
(according to a torque wrench that's correctly calibrated, (at sea level??)
that's what I do.  I think the only bolts that get loctited on my Sprite
are the UNC ones that fasten to an alloy adaptor for the big brake disc
conversion.  I like to think the loctite is a seal between dissimilar
metals and also the fastening torque cannot be as high as I would like it
to be so that's actually my first reason for using it.

On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 at 01:45, Ron Soave via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Actually just looked - the ARP bolts specify Loctite 242 on threads and
> their goop under the head as well, very specific instructions.
>
> Ron Soave
>
> Personally, I use ARP bolts with their goop. Only had a problem that one
> time I didn=E2=80=99t...
>
> Ron Soave
>
> On Jan 16, 2020, at 4:11 PM, crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> On the 79 GP Championship winning car and all of Randy Canfelds race
> motors we used grade 8 bolts and red Locktite.
> *Sent from my LG Mobile*
> *From: *Mark Haynes via Spridgets
> *Date: *Thu, Jan 16, 2020 4:32 PM
> *To: *Spridgets list;
> *Cc: *
> *Subject:*[Spridgets] ARP Flywheel bolt application
>
> If you were to put ARP flywheel bolts onto your engine, and given that
> they supply their own "special sauce" to put onto the bolts to achieve
> specified torque values, and that all of your previous experience with
> flywheel bolts was to apply Loctite to them.
> Would You:
> or C) use Special sauce (just enough) and then use Loctite between the
> head of the bolts and the flywheel face?
> What do Racers Do?
> What would you do?
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I work on the principle that ARP know more than I do =
so if they say use their lubricant to make sure the bolt is fastened to the=
 correct torque (according to a torque wrench that&#39;s correctly calibrat=
ed, (at sea level??) that&#39;s what I do.=C2=A0 I think the only bolts tha=
t get loctited on my Sprite are the UNC ones that fasten to an alloy adapto=
r for the big brake disc conversion.=C2=A0 I like to think the loctite is a=
 seal between dissimilar metals and also the fastening torque cannot be as =
high as I would like it to be so that&#39;s actually=C2=A0my first reason=
=C2=A0for using it.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"l=
tr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 at 01:45, Ron Soave via Spridg=
ets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
t</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
><div dir=3D"auto">Actually just looked - the ARP bolts specify Loctite 242=
 on threads and their goop under the head as well, very specific instructio=
ns.<br><br><div id=3D"gmail-m_-5331779608026057341AppleMailSignature" dir=
=3D"ltr">Ron Soave</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 16, 2020, at 5:39 PM, R=
on Soave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">soavero=
@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Personally, I use ARP bolts with their goop. Only had a problem th=
at one time I didn=E2=80=99t...<div><br></div><div>Ron Soave</div><div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 16, 2020, at 4:11 PM, cru=
saderchuck55--- via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></block=
quote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

    <div style=3D"font-size:10pt"><div dir=3D"auto">On the 79 GP Championsh=
ip winning car and all of Randy Canfelds race motors we used grade 8 bolts =
and red Locktite.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Never had a failure.=C2=A0 We also=
 used loctite on the pressure plate bolts.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Chuck</di=
v><div dir=3D"auto">Getting closer &amp; closer to making the Midget a comp=
lete car...</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-size:9pt"><i>Sent from my LG Mobile</i><=
/div></div></div><div style=3D"font-size:10pt"><div id=3D"gmail-m_-53317796=
08026057341LGEmailHeader" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">------ Original message------</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>From: </b=
>Mark Haynes via Spridgets<u></u><u></u></div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>Date: </=
b>Thu, Jan 16, 2020 4:32 PM</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>To: </b>Spridgets lis=
t;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>Cc: </b></div><div dir=3D"auto"><b>Subject:</b=
>[Spridgets] ARP Flywheel bolt application<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>A question for the generalists and the racers:</div>=
<div>If you were to put ARP flywheel bolts onto your engine, and given that=
 they supply their own &quot;special sauce&quot; to put onto the bolts to a=
chieve specified torque values, and that all of your previous experience wi=
th flywheel bolts was to apply Loctite to them.<br></div><div>Would You:</d=
iv><div> A) Use the Special Sauce only</div><div>B) Use Loctite</div><div>o=
r C) use Special sauce (just enough) and then use Loctite between the head =
of the bolts and the flywheel face?</div><div>What do Racers Do?</div><div>=
What would you do?</div><div>Enquiring Minds and all of that...;??}<br></di=
v><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Mark Haynes<br></div>It =
only goes one way- Pay It Forward<br></div></div></div></div></div>
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